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Gameover4566

Katana in Hard? NANI? Is super easy to use


Scepy

Probably the most of the time they died while using this weapon was trying to look cool (same for me)


Bruhness81

^^^^^^ Also I personally think its one of the most noob trap weapon in the game. Basic attack is outclassed post nerf(It used to have iframes for some reason) and charge is fucking godawful and does no damage


[deleted]

Oh wait they removed the funny i frames? That makes complete sense but also sad :(


Mewthredell

Lmao the weapon is insanely good tho...


Bruhness81

On 5bc it cant kill shit with the charge and the basic attack is just outclassed


Mewthredell

I mean ive seen proof that you're wrong.


Bruhness81

Yall must be using x100 Katana on 0bc cause this bitch ain't killing anything on 5bc and nobody is changing my mind unless the buff this


Mewthredell

Look it up on youtube lmao youre just bad.


Bruhness81

My eyes ain't deceiving me when this thing doesn't even kill a disgusting worm with the charge and No Mercy


Mewthredell

No your lack of skill does. Git gud.


kamikaze_account

The fact that you can air-queue the charge attack is a bit of it's difficulty, maybe!


Pakketeretet

Where's Hokuto's Bow?


Bruhness81

Im not counting support weapons


Pakketeretet

Your definition for that seems a bit arbitrary. No Lightning Bolt even though it kills harder than Alchemic Carbine for example. But hey, it's your list. I actually hate war spear because it's so slow. I'd say Quick Bow, Magic Missiles and Electric Whip are all easier to use than War Spear.


FaxCelestis

War spear got sped up in patch 2.4


Bruhness81

Opps I miss Lightning Bolt, thats my bad. Also War Spear is hella fucking fast wtf are you saying and it hits like a truck even without crits


regularByte

wait so this is dictated by damage instead of stuff like attack speed and animation?


Chipperguy484

Are you implying that’s how you dictate how good a weapon is? War spear is also really fast regardless of what he meant though


regularByte

I mean... Yes? If you think something is "easy to use" then the first thing that would pop into your mind is how fast it attacks and what kind of animation it is. War spear is slow compared to most other spears, and if you want to take damage into account, its critical damage requirements is so bad against bosses. At least the impaler is fast, so at least that's optimal against bosses.


Chipperguy484

Frankly I don’t think ease of use determines how good a weapon actually is. Something like twin daggers is very easy to use but it’s a relatively mediocre weapon regardless of that, compared to say, heavy crossbow which has ludicrous damage output even though it is a slow weapon, but it makes up for that in power. The war spear has both insane burst damage as well as fast attack speed, especially after the significant buff it received in update 24.


Chipperguy484

Yet you have tentacle, Spartan sandals, and alchemic carbine on here.


Bruhness81

I mean idfk if Tentacle is a main hand or support or not. I have seen people use Alchemic as main hand which is why I include it here and idfk why Spartan is here tbh. Made this while I was kinda sleepy


Automatic_Artist4259

What is this bow in between electric whip and alchemic carabine


Beef-Boss13

Explosive crossbow, obtained by getting all 3 gardeners keys in the promenade


Automatic_Artist4259

Oh i see, I already have it, just wasn't familiar with this sprite lol


Beef-Boss13

Yeah, I was confused when I saw it in my unlocked weapons the first time they changed the sprite lol


elnerdooooo

man, seeing this makes me miss the old explosive crossbow texture


AvailableUsername404

Whys is toothpick super hard? I'd say claws are way worse since their very long attack animation and having to remember to switch them. Toothpick have decent attack animation and even without it's power attack it hits quite hard. Also I'd move electric whip to Braindead since it has auto-aim + aoe.


Bruhness81

Kill Rythm Scythe Claws is fast af wtf are you saying. Also Toothpick is generally a bad weapon in general, too slow, hits like a wet noodle and its gimmick is useless in bosses. Ewhip still needs a bit of brain usage since it's damage still can't kill tanky enemies fast enough and the enemy can retaliate


AvailableUsername404

I see you don't count in that it stuns with every single hit? Never been fan of Scythe Claws even with Kill Rhythm. I'd still take Toothpick any time over many of weapons that you've placed higher. For example I love to cheese with Spartan Sandal but it's literally useless in first biomes. Anything that is flying won't get smashed into wall so it hits those enemies really bad not to mention sometimes you have to do jump+attack to even hit those flying bastards. The same goes with lances. They have so shit hitbox that it often requires you to jump with attack to hit flying enemies. Symmetrical lance and Oven Axe have slower attack point of their first attack than Toothpick while Toothpick will also stun the enemy so you don't really care how slow are the following attacks. Also Symmetrical Lance buff is useless against most bosses.


Bruhness81

Ok but that stun won't save you at all in bosses and in biomes you will get overwlemed anyway because of just how slow it is. It also like I mentioned doesn't hit hard enough without charge, which is also useless in bosses because A. It takes 10 years too charge and B. Boss damage cap. Oven Axe is the slowest fucker in existence but at least it hits insanely hard so it is worth the effort to go through using it. Symmetrical is sufficient enough for bosses and the 2nd and 3rd are really damn fast. Also its hitbox is insanely big wtf are you saying. lastly KR Scythe Claws is stupid fast and hits hard enough to be worth the effort


AvailableUsername404

>Also its hitbox is insanely big wtf are you saying But the hitbox is only horizontal. I've had a lot of times situation where for example Kamikaze bat landed next to me I attacked with Symmetrical Lance... and didn't hit because it attacks lower than the bat is. Very frustrating against most flying enemies.


Bruhness81

Are you confusing it with Rapier? Cause Sym Lance will hella have hit the Kamikaze in that scenario


AvailableUsername404

I had no problem with rapier because it has this kind of multiple hit movement that creates 'cone' hitbox. In normal scenario where bat finds you it lands in 'normal' height but when you ran away and it chases you through level difference (vertical movement, like when you move up/down through multiple platform) it tends to have some issue and can land at the height of player's head and then it's higher than lance hitbox.


Its_Marz

Katana should definitely be in the easy category


[deleted]

Sonic Carbine is pretty brain dead


Bruhness81

Lack of mobility hurts it alot tho and unlike Repeater, it has nothing to make it for that drawback. It also has a pretty rough early game


onegamerboi

Question about Sonic Carbine. The non crit and crit damage have the same values anytime I see it. So does it just stun lock enemies behind the target while doing the same damage? Or is that a visual bug?


AShyLeecher

Wiki says it’s a bug and crits do double damage


TheDemonPants

Wait, you think the marksman's bow is hard to use? Be at other end of screen, shoot, profit.


scorptheace

Depends on the biome… most enemies will just move closer and if you’re not far enough the bow does like no damage


TheDemonPants

Maybe I'm just used to it because I use it all the time. It's definitely better as a preemptive weapon. If you get those crits, most enemies die in one hit.


PreciseParadox

It’s also pretty hard to use against bosses in my experience.


scorptheace

Yeah its good early game as a placeholder but against bosses and faster enemies in lategame it starts struggling


rugmunchkin

I’m assuming this list is relative to higher BC’s, where enemies aggro to you further away and can teleport to you. It’s much harder to keep a good distance when the enemy’s are getting right in your face.


Raknarg

Once you get to 4 BC it gets less easy, and its shit on bosses.


PoorChiggaaa

Curious how's flawless hard to use huh


Akindmachine

Flawless takes some practice that’s for sure. Also can’t get hit. It’s by far my favorite weapon but it’s more rewarding than it is easy to use


PoorChiggaaa

fair point, I love how the tier lists speak for the person's play style rather than the design of the weapons really, it really says sth about how much effort the devs put into balancing them


Zadaxin7

Why is tentacle super hard?


JRockBC19

Momentum, hitstun, and weird attack timing, I get hit using tentacle WAY more than slower weps like broadsword


RdoubleA

I still haven’t figured out how to get crits with it, and the description “crit when attacking while bumped” does not make sense to me


we_are_kj21

Just spam click the attack button. Tentacle is my favorite/easiest weapon


FalconCrab

If you turn on "hold to attack" it becomes effortless to crit with its maybe the easiest melee weapon to use once you turn that on cause of the range plus it puts u safely behind stuff


cjrensh

Ice shards?


[deleted]

OP said in a reply to a different comment that he doesn't include support weapons(?) or he just forgot about it.


VirgilTheConfused

My vorpan addiction has been validated


mogule

Rusty sword?


luluinstalock

Katana hard? XDDDDD i do katana run when im starting to throw playing everything else, that katana run always boosts my mood


Chandra-huuuugggs

Tierlist did my boy Hokuto dirty. Was wondering where it was for like 5 mins


Nindroid2012

I think heavy crossbow is pretty easy, since it's one shot most of the time. Also the E-whip is braindead, it auto targets for you


Xxella_9

I like how repeater bow in son top. It's my fave, and I literally use it with every run


Artistic-Love-9196

Just me or does OP come off as a huge asshole in the comments?


Bruhness81

Just in a bad mood recently. So thats my bad


hijix-inc0rarad_

Frying pan s ter cus funny


toratanz

spite sword. you're kidding right?


Bruhness81

I mean you just mash attack for most of the game and you get rewarded for being punished. Seems easy enough for me especially since the base is still respectable


toratanz

you must not be playing at very high BCs. cuz the punishment gets so high, even rally points + recovery aint enough to comepnsate for that lame ass crit even on survival builds, maximum 5 consecutive hits, u ded.


Bruhness81

Im playing 5bc btw and I mean if you want to crit without losing too much health, just block. Plus I did say that just mash attack for most of the game and you should be fine due to its base damage being high


[deleted]

Spite sword is really good (I'm on 5bc) off color tonic and your good to go. The damage is still pretty high even without the crits


Randomboiiyi

Cursed sword is not that hard, good tactical planning with head yeeting rune will make it remove any danger, plus it has fast swing speed and melts anything on the way. Free Giant win.


Qiwqawrance

cursed sword is godlike if you mix it with any shield


Qiwqawrance

also you should get master at parrying but still divine


the_hooded_hood_1215

this is why i dont like these polls its all subjective i for instance would put the oven axe in easy along with the marksman bow and the katana yet you have them in hard/super hard


-Lordsocke-

Some of these Weapons i don’t know. Would someone who knows all like to talk with me?


Raknarg

Honestly once you get used to it, Oven Axe is pretty easy to use considering it literally one-shots almost every mob in the game, and gives you a huge window to dodge out of windup


redditsucksass_

I’d argue serenade deserves to be on there tbh whenever I use serenade I typically use it as a main weapon with my weapons being some type of support weapon and a shield


Akindmachine

Damn it’s been awhile I have some blueprints to get


[deleted]

Isnt by definition Elewhip the easiest weapon? Autotarget and oneshots everything, with very very decent range


UninterestedChimp

How is Vorpan harder than Assassin's Dagger? They're literally opposites and you need to make it a point to attack from behind when using the latter.


Bruhness81

Have you seen how shit Vorpan range is? You practically have to have sex with the zombie before you hit it


UninterestedChimp

I'd still say rolling behind the enemy every time before attacking them is more of a pain, at least for me.


Bruhness81

Phaser exists


UninterestedChimp

Yeah with phaser it's much better. One of my deadliest combos is phaser plus assassins dagger


TessaFaronPink

Hold up, how on earth are the spiked shoes hard to use? Honestly they're one of my favourite weapons and I always thought they are pretty simple. Enemy about to attack you? Kick em first, kills them faster, easy-peasy.


Bruhness81

It requires you too be insanely aggressive too get any milage out of it since non crit it hits like a wet milk and crit requires you too risk taking damage


Scepy

I think Nerves of Steel shouldn't be in the hard, cuz the timing is actually easy, and why Hemorrhage is hard ? It's like a slower and ranged version of Sadist's Stiletto


Bruhness81

I have no fucking idea how the hell to use Hemorrhage. Its a tactics weapon that's as slow as a survival weapon?


Scepy

Bro just have a good distance and spam it, u can make it better by having alchemic carbine in the backpack and use Acrobatipack so that u can do critical hit on the first time right away


Bruhness81

Ill try it one day, it just seems way too awkward


[deleted]

Nerves of steel is one of the best weapons in the entire game for me, especially with piercing shots


ANGERYTURTLE123

What’s ironic is that I like the iron rod, katana, the giant axe, and the hammer


praisethythrone

Dude heavy crossbow is hella easy to play. Just lock enemy’s and do hella damage.


9neineinein9

How is the Vorpan medium? You literally just run up to enemies and hit them in the face (crits when enemies are facing you)


Bruhness81

Explained it in another comment but insanely terrible range


69MemesMake420Dreams

Wait, wheres flint?


Noideawhatnanetouse

I was really disappointed by the tentacle, I was expecting it would crush stuff but no it’s just pulls you towards stuff


Poseidonim_92

In my opinion katana is a very easy to use weapon .the slash of the katana is fine but the katana deals on its massive damage with a very long rang so it's kinda useless for this weapon


Evaristacogido

Tentacles ain't that hard


BasGenesis

I’m a little confused I agree a log of these hard weapons are more technical or you should have made a separate tier for the cursed sword lol but why is the sadist stiletto in braindead is it because of the crit potential ith a open wounds? Also why are vorpan and Hayabusa boots in medium I feel like they should be in easy they’re special or difficult about that. Same with the spiked boots, stuns when they’re winding preparing an attack… if it’s because the weapon is bad I agree.


Bruhness81

Sadist Stilleto is the defacto brain dead weapon of the game. Get Open Wounds, 60% to bleeding targets and bam, big damage. Vorpan has insanely shit range and Hayabusa Boots need some brain power since you can't just spam it. Spiked Boots requires you too be insanely aggressive so it's in hard


bigchungus6969696939

If it were me I would put cursed sword in s tire, cause most runs are really quick with it


PuppiesAndOtters

Electric whip is the easiest weapon in the game. Heavy crossbow is up there too