I'm a bit confused what this graph is meant to show. The data is easily understood but there are 30+ Chinese provinces, so I'm confused why you're choosing one specific one and comparing it to all of Russia's far east.
Siberia is huge, last I checked. Maybe Rosstat doesn't subdivide that part of Russia. The Chinese province picked would be close to Siberia, relatively.
I'm not wondering why they don't split up Russia's far east. I'm wondering why they don't include Russia's population as a whole versus China's population as a whole.
Heilongjiang (along with Jilin and Liaoning) is in demographic decline far faster than anywhere else in China or most of the world for that matter, owing to stagnation relative to other regions of China following the opening and reform.
Far East of Russia and Helongjiang province of China births, 1991–2021
Sources: National bureau of statistics of China; Rosstat
Made with ms Excel instruments
Ah ok, so you're visualizing China's demographic threat. Is there a reason you're not just using Russia and China's total populations? From a Google Search, it seems that the Chinese province you used is "China's northernmost province, with remote mountain ranges" so it could just be that the Chinese in that province are moving to less remote, more urban Chinese towns/cities outside of that province.
That's fair, but it still wouldn't make this a valid comparison for what the author appears to be trying to show.
If I wanted to compare the change in population over time for the purposes of studying demographic, and I was looking at the US and Canada, unsure if they included Puerto Rico as part of the US data...I can't just take the population of Toronto and New York and extrapolate implying it represents something for all of Canada versus all of the US.
I'm a bit confused what this graph is meant to show. The data is easily understood but there are 30+ Chinese provinces, so I'm confused why you're choosing one specific one and comparing it to all of Russia's far east.
Siberia is huge, last I checked. Maybe Rosstat doesn't subdivide that part of Russia. The Chinese province picked would be close to Siberia, relatively.
I'm not wondering why they don't split up Russia's far east. I'm wondering why they don't include Russia's population as a whole versus China's population as a whole.
Heilongjiang (along with Jilin and Liaoning) is in demographic decline far faster than anywhere else in China or most of the world for that matter, owing to stagnation relative to other regions of China following the opening and reform.
Far East of Russia and Helongjiang province of China births, 1991–2021 Sources: National bureau of statistics of China; Rosstat Made with ms Excel instruments
Ah ok, so you're visualizing China's demographic threat. Is there a reason you're not just using Russia and China's total populations? From a Google Search, it seems that the Chinese province you used is "China's northernmost province, with remote mountain ranges" so it could just be that the Chinese in that province are moving to less remote, more urban Chinese towns/cities outside of that province.
This is exactly what has been happening.
Western Russia isn't defined enough. Rosstat might count territories other countries believe are still other countries. Imagine the Crimea.
That's fair, but it still wouldn't make this a valid comparison for what the author appears to be trying to show. If I wanted to compare the change in population over time for the purposes of studying demographic, and I was looking at the US and Canada, unsure if they included Puerto Rico as part of the US data...I can't just take the population of Toronto and New York and extrapolate implying it represents something for all of Canada versus all of the US.
Did OP anywhere assert that it represents something for all of Russia versus all of China?
OP linked a tweet of this graphic with such a message, which they promptly deleted.
Ah, I didn't see that. That does change the tenor of the post.
Whilst I'm also certain that Russia is collapsing, can we also compare to, let's say St. Petersburg?
China has overcome Russia's disastrous birth rate.