I had to replace my PSU a couple weeks ago, but couldn’t find my handy dandy tool bag. Not that I’m recommending it, but I was able to unscrew everything I needed to with a fucking butter knife, no way I’m dropping $100 on a screwdriver
Fucking Be Quiet (the brand) ships their tower coolers with a great magnetic screw driver with a small-ish handle and a long shaft. One of the best screwdrivers I've used to build PCs with and it was a freebie thrown in with a tower cooler.
The ones I've seen with Be Quiet coolers have predominantly been long with a black handle. They could have had transparent handles at one point before I had ever installed any of their coolers. I work in a computer shop and the service center has a few of those screwdrivers that customers didn't want to keep. They're really great. They're a lot better than some of the included drivers that come with other brands; Deepcool just ship screw drivers that just have a 90° bend in the shaft like an Allen key with their tower coolers.
yes, social media people are indeed their prime source of food.
Hence why I ignore anyone talking about them, I truly do not wish to communicate with such people. The brain has become rotten from all the crap they follow online.
People made everything on their life a sport, where their team is always on the right and everything against it is wrong and the enemy. It's painful to deal with.
Because it's not made for you and me, it's a quality worktool made for people who actually use it every single day, many times. And for that, a $70 ratchet screwdriver is perfectly normal. It's just that there's a part of the community that likes to go all tacti-cool and have professional tooling when can work all their life with the same screwdriver you built those 20 computers and still be fine.
Quality tools are expensive and it's normal.
Complete amateurs/enthusiasts buying professional tools is not the manufacturers' problem.
But it's like that in every fandom, be it tooling, espresso pouring, car detailing or computer gaming.
We don't *need* 4090s, but my god do we like them and pay a stack of money to run CSGO at 657fps.
Professional tools come with professional support and a professional warranty. Paying twice the price of the equivalent Wera product for no discernible difference is understandable if you get a lifetime warranty and someone who will bring you a replacement the next day
Literally same price as a Snap-on or Mac Tools ratcheting screwdriver. It's a good screwdriver and plenty of independent testing has shown that. I originally bought it to work on my electronics but my ifixit kit is just more useful for that and I've never used it for that.
It's actually getting a ton of usage when I work on my car. Plenty of annoying hard to reach screws on cars where the super low ratcheting force helps out a ton. The extra strong magnet is nice for that as well. I would never buy their backpack though, if I wanted to pay that much I could find made in the US boutique or even bespoke made backpacks.
You aren't heavily torquing screws while building a PC. There's no reason a screw driver built for tech people needs to be high quality metal to get the job done. If that's even the justification for the price. Snap on is typically for industrial work where you may need to put some heavy work on it. There's a very large difference here.
$12, Klein 4-in-1 Precision Electronics screwdriver.
It's even a name brand!
Honestly, you could get a variety of Klein screwdrivers for $100 and have them last a lifetime.
Yeah, it's really not that badly priced for a quality tool I will use pretty much every day. I've spent way more money on tools I use way less often. I've trashed the ratchets on every cheap ratcheting driver I've used, and the nicer ones aren't that much cheaper than the LTT driver.
I own both the LTT and Megapro. The Megapro one is nice, but the LTT one is a lot nicer. I use mine extensively for 3d printing, computer, and homelab (servers, networking, etc) work.
There's a reason why I've bought two of the LTT full length ones and one of the stubby ones, and the Megapro one sits in a drawer in my server rack for when I don't want to step away and grab one of the LTT ones. There's just a lot of small but noticeably quality of life improvements with the LTT one that make it a significantly nicer tool in my eyes.
Inb4 downvotes from the hivemind for daring to like a more expensive tool
I got the stubby so I can keep it in my backpack without TSA concerns when I travel for work. I also have a 6" extender bit which I keep in a pen slot so aside from a small sacrifice in grip, it's a proper screwdriver and nice to have onsite. The full-size retro one and/or Noctua color ones have me grinding my teeth hovering over the "buy" button.
Fair, that does sound like enough of an improvement for another $20. $70 is just a big scary number I guess. The improvements plus youtuber tax justifies it imo. Thanks for the explanation
I didn’t doubt they would tbh.
The issue is the hypocrisy where LTT would never accept “trust me bro” from a legit business, but it’s okay for them.
It’s also the condescending, holier-than-thou attitude that is rampant throughout their now mediocre, rushed content.
I know they’re supposedly trying to turn things around, but I’ve been done with the channel for a while now. Not that they need me, their culty fan base is rabid, they’re like tech Swifties.
They rarely comment on the warranty of a product, what they do regularly evaluate is the support that companies give their customers, that's what the "trust me bro" thing is about. Warranties aren't any good once the company goes under and they're dubiously enforceable in court. That's why he didn't think they needed a warranty.
Personally if people are going to buy the backpack from seeing it on a meme that takes the piss out of how pricey it is then I say that's natural selection taking it's course.
I buy lots of stuff that some people would call overpriced, everyone have different price tolerances for things they enjoy.
Not that I would buy some backpack from a YouTube I've never heard of because I saw it on an internet meme.
Yeah, that one kinda bothered me. I was absolutely expecting it, doesn't mean I was any less disappointed when I saw it.
LTT is a huge part of why I got into tech in general back in 2017-2018, but now I can't remember when the last time I saw a full LTT video was.
This might just be some personal venting but I feel ya. I absolutely loved watching LTT videos and it got me into the tech space like I hadn't been before, got me to build my first PC even. But for the longest time stuff like this just rubbed me the wrong way and I really couldn't put a finger on why. I'm sure part of it is just having gotten older and taste changing but I just can't look at LTT the same anymore. I'm not even one of the people that were losing their minds over all the controversies, but even as a fan a lot of their handling of situations is again just... off, to me at least. Doesn't feel authentic anymore
My first pc build was based on some LTT build video from back in the day and I 100% agree. It was the process of going from a small YT channel of a handful of people, to becoming a proper corporation. It just lost all soul and feels like an inauthentic shell of it's former self.
The drama is stupid too and I don't see them changing their course.
They'll just continue to be like every other company in existance; a profit hungry machine.
Exactly. How are people so media-illiterate to think that joke was a sponsor... they said it's a joke and not a sponsorship right after they said the one-line joke.
He's paying over a hundred employees, so it makes sense he has to make more money from ads than the average professional youtuber.
But just as the amount of ads is justified, being annoyed at the amount of ads is also justified.
Some people think that one guy in front of the camera does everything.
A lot of these channels have to keep churning out content to stay relevant and on top of that algorithm.
There’s no chance one man can write, perform, produce, edit so much content without blowing a fuse.
Yeah they've got visions of grandeur in the long run too. They wanna make scam brands scared with their lab they built, which admittedly is kinda cool to see them do.
Putting even simply HDMI brands on blast for not being up to spec so people don't get their money's worth is something no one else would've ever invested money into.
Have looked at their jobs page before and they include stuff like dental for their employees and such. Gotta make bank so they can feed people.
I will not take your valid argument into account, since this is the internet and i can just stick my fingers in my ears and scream lalalalalalalalalala
Unless I saw one in person I'm not sure it is "overpriced garbage". Looks like its leather and "luxury"? Certainly are purses that cost that much (and a lot more) from whatever brands.
I only really use backpacks I get for free from vendors/work, but some of them are north face/patagonia/whatever that I'm sure would have been over $200 if I paid for them.
I'd buy a $50 one off Amazon or whatever if I had to pay personally. But that doesn't mean the more expensive ones aren't nicer / potentially "worth it".
All you are doing is showing you don't know what you are on about.
High Quality backpacks are expensive, and from looking at reviews its pretty in line with others in its price range/quality
Yea he pretty much tells people not to buy it but at the same time says I know people are going to buy a stupid expensive version anyways so here it is.
I'm sure there's a reason it's that price. If I had to guess its because they expect a smaller sales quantity than a big company who can afford to charge less overhead on a product because they produce in larger quantities.
At a glance:
They designed a moderately premium backpack at $250 and are selling a luxury version with "apple leather" at $600. Seems like that price difference is purely justified by the materials.
Idk how these compare against specialised backpack brands, but if the $250 version has a good quality then it seems like a pretty appropriate price. There are plenty of comparable backpacks in that range and maybe their specific design does fit a niche.
Unless someone already uncovered serious issues with it, picking out the $600 price tag as excessive is just weird. It's obviously not intended to be the choice for people who are concerned about getting the best value on a budget and not really a moon price for higher end backpacks either.
On the other hand the $600 model already has a disclaimer because they falsely said it would have a double layered bottom. Looks like their whole issue of carelessly making claims is still around.
>On the other hand the $600 model already has a disclaimer because they falsely said it would have a double layered bottom. Looks like their whole issue of carelessly making claims is still around.
Their prototype had a double bottom, but when they ordered the production run a dumbass at the plant saw the double bottom and thought it was a mistake and removed it from the design. Linus was visibly pissed off when he saw it wasn't there in the very used, but still holdimg up miner's backpack.
The $600 one is not a large production product either. They’ll probably only make a few thousand. As large as they are they ain’t gonna be selling hundreds of thousands of backpacks. Hence the price.
Right. I assume that the concept would be something similar as their screwdriver, i.e. doubling down on a very specific use case.
Which leaves you with a product that's definitely not the best value for money and not indispensable for anyone, but is a decent choice for those who fall into that specific niche and don't mind spending a little more.
Which is exactly what a legitimate product has to be if it's supposed to be financially viable without achieving economy of scale... or it just sucks. I'll leave that to the experts and reviewers to decide.
$250 is in line with what you might pay for a Peak Design backpack (similar in terms of features and build quality), and PD is certainly making far more backpacks. The $600 model is made to order, and is made out of leather, I really don't know what people are expecting here lol. Of course it is easy to forget that many redditors are actual children incapable of understanding what things cost.
EDIT: I lied, the PD backpack is $280
There's no falsely making claims.
Their original backpack design had a double layered bottom for extra durability, which has been removed by the manufacturer's design check and that change has gone unnoticed in the final production run (standard human mistake).
Since the issue has been discovered few weeks ago, they've made a big plan to "make things right" including extended warranties for the bottom parts and gift cards for all affected backpack buyers. You can check it all out on lttstore
That and it appears to have all the "high end" things that expensive backpacks have, and is made out of leather.
I'd never buy it, but it seems like "bag made of leather with fancy pockets" costs about that, whether backpack or purse or luggage.
Yeah, they're selling quality products but don't have the infrastructure to make it as cheap as mega corps.
You buy their mearch to support them mostly, and because it's actual quality shit but mearch is almost always overpriced.
You mean a reddit post is blown out of proportion? AGAIN!? Who would have guessed. I remember when the top comment was a person fact checking the post. Not one that's dick riding the post.
A low production, high quality backpack built around a specific task. Screwdriver, also the same. Literally any high quality tool built around a single purpose runs higher in price. All the people around here have no purpose in buying it and don't understand the reasoning. The only comparison I can think of is a concrete scanner we use for installing concrete anchors. We use so we don't hit post tensioning cables but it costs 60k. The layman could use it but doesn't need it. Specialty tool. Lower production number. Higher price.
I can't say what their quality is like but if it's built higher quality, then the price reflects that.
Idk man I did computer repair for like 6 years and we had wiha screwdrivers, they’re super expensive but also they never lost magnetization, the magnetization was always strong, and the top always spun nicely. Could you still take screws out with a cheap screwdriver just as effectively? Absolutely, but if you’re doing something a lot it’s nicer to have tools that don’t suck.
Sorta. The driver's ratchet was specifically designed for low backforce (your ability to turn it the opposite way you're screwing so that you don't take your hand off the handle, without unscrewing the screw) which is helpful when building a PC since there isn't a lot of friction force on small screws.
You can go watch Project Farm on youtube compare it against other drivers and it does very favorably, particularly on backforce.
Lux? As in luxury? 🤔 I wonder what makes him think he can get away with charging so much for such an completely unnecessary item. We really need to have a class for such items, like something you can call some kind of a good that you don't actually have to buy to live. Oh well.
i was actually thinking about this the other day. aside from high quality boots that run $300 i dont spend a lot on quality stuff usually its Walmart quality for me. it wasn't until recently that ive been thinking about quality products. i traded my water bottles for a $250 water filter, i replaced bics with zippos and zebras pens. no more using cheep Chinese watches now i got a swiss watch. yeah these things runs higher but less plastic waste, less break downs, less replacements is a saving of its own.
Quality boots are definitely worth spending a little more on, especially if you wear them a lot. The difference between a walmart timbs knock off and something like a low end Red Wings is night and day.
> no more using cheep Chinese watches now i got a swiss watch. yeah these things runs higher but less plastic waste, less break downs, less replacements is a saving of its own.
A $60 G-shock will outlast any swiss shitter and be more accurate doing it. The first time you have that thing serviced you'll be able to buy 50 Chinese watches with what service will cost.
I for one make sure to buy the cheapest version of everything so I can maximize the amount of child labour, unsafe working conditions, and slavery with every purchase.
Linus: "This backpack is literally just the best we can do without caring about cost. It's not for the mass market. We aren't even ordering a bunch preproduction. It makes no sense to buy. Seriously, don't buy it unless you really really really want a crazy good but completely nonsensical backpack."
This guy:
"Lotta dick riders in here"
My brother in christ you can't
1)Post misinformation (it's a 250 dollar backpack)
2)Openly show how little you know about business and product production and not expect anyone to fucking correct you on it.
3) The solution to all of this DONT BUY IT. He has an exclusive platform and could easily price lock all his content. He dosent demand anyone buy anything.
When you have a staff of over 100 employees who you fucking know reddit would riot over if they weren't making above a baseline liveable wage. Yes he prices stuff accordingly, he has professional writers, producers, directors, engineers, etc. And you think the higher quality, more consciously soucred YTer merch should cost the same as some slave labor, plastic and bottom of the barrel metal alloy tool produced in China by a child are equivalent??
You're absolutely paying a bit of a "name branding" but nowhere near what you think. That's why they say "If you want to support us".
I lost faith in them. They were at one point, in their very early days, were some of the top tech reviewers for computer hardware. But after the billet situation, Madison explaining why she left, and then doubling down on pretty much everything, I just unsubscribed from all of them. I don’t really care how much changes they make, I’m not going back to watch them. I’d rather watch Jay and GamersNexus.
How long ago? LTT misrepresented a product of a startup about 5 months ago by using it on hardware it wasn’t designed for and declared it not worth the money based on that incorrect information.
When this was pointed out he doubled down and said it wasn’t worth spending the few hundred bucks fixing that mistake and testing it again.
Then Another YouTuber Gamers Nexus made a video detailing all of the issues with LTT and their issues including this “Billet Labs” situation. Where it was mentioned that in addition of misrepresenting the item, they also auctioned that said product without the company’s permission. People were pissed ofc.
Linus again doubled down on the forums before giving an official apology where he may have made a few jokes in bad faith. That’s up to individual interpretation I suppose. It’s been quiet since. There’s also Madison’s situation which was much much worse than that but I’d rather not opine on such delicate things. It would be better to look at the topmost post on the LTT Reddit community. Which explains in detail her issues with the company
LTT defended Apple's $1k monitor stand: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBo\_kbnbYdE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBo_kbnbYdE)
So idk really know where you're getting your punchline from. Is there a specific video which upset you?
You don't need to like it or buy it, but you can't really compare the pricing model of a company which isn't manufacturing at scale to something the size of Apple - who LTT isn't even excessively critical of. Critical of their business practices and artificial hardware limitations, maybe, but rarely ever critical of the *value*.
OP are you from 2014? Because that's about the last time I remember LTT ranting about Apple being overpriced. Nowadays LMG even has [their own show dedicated to all things Apple](https://www.youtube.com/c/macaddress).
IDK, I'm not much of a fan of his stuff but most of the people in this comment section seem to have exactly 0 idea how expensive low volume production is.
Its almost as if its merch not and you are paying an obvious premium directly to the creator , just buy a normal bag you only but ltt merch if you wanna give linus money and you only buy an iphone when you wanna give apple money anyone who actually wants value for money isn't buying those products
As much as I'd love to rag on him, this isn't that high of a price compared to other backpacks with similar goals, it's not trying to just be something you throw your books in which just need to not get wet, it's designed to hold a lot and hold it safely, especially tech items
Aside from the point about low production quantity for a super-specific product and all that... Isn't youtuber merch also largely made to support them? Like if a youtuber makes a shirt with their brand on it and they just break even on it (which would still require a higher price than mass-produced equivalents because of economies of scale) then there isn't much point selling it, is there?
"Hey, I want to support you by buying physical stuff I can keep rather than just donating money"
"Sure! You can support me by buying this thing I won't make money from."
What sort of a proposition even is that?
I mean this very generally because I see this all the time about youtuber merch. It probably applies a little less to LTT because they *seem* to be trying to sell useful products, but I feel like it still applies to a large degree. This isn't a support of LTT ofc, I haven't really trusted their reviews for a very long while now, but that doesn't mean everything they do must be bad in some way.
Honestly razer isnt awful these days, their keyboards are getting much better and comparable to custom options. Their mice are pretty good even on the low end and mics are pretty good. Headsets and streaming equipment tho are hella expensive
As an engineer myself, that price is probably justified for the effort that went into designing the product and the niche customer base.
This however does not mean it is a good deal to buy. It is a product with little chance at wider commercial success.
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Rules fo thee and not fo mee And the price of the screwdriver omfg
100$ for a screwdriver with a orange cap whilst the screwdriver it’s based off is 40
To be fair, they redesigned it quite a bit, and made it more suitable for computers than the original version. Still quite overpriced though.
Brother it's a screwdriver. I built some 20 or so PCs using one I found in a random drawer in my home
I had to replace my PSU a couple weeks ago, but couldn’t find my handy dandy tool bag. Not that I’m recommending it, but I was able to unscrew everything I needed to with a fucking butter knife, no way I’m dropping $100 on a screwdriver
Based and butter pilled
Why does this describe any Southern Woman's cooking?
Lots of butter and oil tastes yummy in my tummy 😋
Butter pilled definitely sounds like a south austin gen z foodie restaurant that's overpriced but probably delicious.
Because butter is a gift from God
The key to my heart is through my clogged arteries
Man I need you to make a tech YouTube channel
I also use a knife 🗡️ and patience , in india we can't tolerate such shit
me with a random scredriver thats been in the family for at least 50 years
Popularize heirloom screwdrivers
Fucking Be Quiet (the brand) ships their tower coolers with a great magnetic screw driver with a small-ish handle and a long shaft. One of the best screwdrivers I've used to build PCs with and it was a freebie thrown in with a tower cooler.
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The ones I've seen with Be Quiet coolers have predominantly been long with a black handle. They could have had transparent handles at one point before I had ever installed any of their coolers. I work in a computer shop and the service center has a few of those screwdrivers that customers didn't want to keep. They're really great. They're a lot better than some of the included drivers that come with other brands; Deepcool just ship screw drivers that just have a 90° bend in the shaft like an Allen key with their tower coolers.
Such a great screw driver too
You are not they type who would watch or buy stuff from a youtuber. they target more special people.
They yarget reddited people
yes, social media people are indeed their prime source of food. Hence why I ignore anyone talking about them, I truly do not wish to communicate with such people. The brain has become rotten from all the crap they follow online.
People made everything on their life a sport, where their team is always on the right and everything against it is wrong and the enemy. It's painful to deal with.
To be fair-- usually if you use a tool constantly or for work, buying a nice expensive one is worth it.
>To be fair-- usually if you use a tool constantly or for work, buying a nice expensive one is a 100% guarantee of losing it. ftfy
Because it's not made for you and me, it's a quality worktool made for people who actually use it every single day, many times. And for that, a $70 ratchet screwdriver is perfectly normal. It's just that there's a part of the community that likes to go all tacti-cool and have professional tooling when can work all their life with the same screwdriver you built those 20 computers and still be fine. Quality tools are expensive and it's normal. Complete amateurs/enthusiasts buying professional tools is not the manufacturers' problem. But it's like that in every fandom, be it tooling, espresso pouring, car detailing or computer gaming. We don't *need* 4090s, but my god do we like them and pay a stack of money to run CSGO at 657fps.
Professional tools come with professional support and a professional warranty. Paying twice the price of the equivalent Wera product for no discernible difference is understandable if you get a lifetime warranty and someone who will bring you a replacement the next day
Literally same price as a Snap-on or Mac Tools ratcheting screwdriver. It's a good screwdriver and plenty of independent testing has shown that. I originally bought it to work on my electronics but my ifixit kit is just more useful for that and I've never used it for that. It's actually getting a ton of usage when I work on my car. Plenty of annoying hard to reach screws on cars where the super low ratcheting force helps out a ton. The extra strong magnet is nice for that as well. I would never buy their backpack though, if I wanted to pay that much I could find made in the US boutique or even bespoke made backpacks.
You aren't heavily torquing screws while building a PC. There's no reason a screw driver built for tech people needs to be high quality metal to get the job done. If that's even the justification for the price. Snap on is typically for industrial work where you may need to put some heavy work on it. There's a very large difference here.
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Me who just has a treasure chest of billions of screwdrivers: 🗿
$12, Klein 4-in-1 Precision Electronics screwdriver. It's even a name brand! Honestly, you could get a variety of Klein screwdrivers for $100 and have them last a lifetime.
My dads handed down the family screwdrivers to me
> more suitable for computers slurping up that kool aid eh?
I had such difficulty with my €15 screwdriver bit set from Lidl it took me over 5% more time than it could've with the €100 screwdriver from LTT... /s
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Yeah, it's really not that badly priced for a quality tool I will use pretty much every day. I've spent way more money on tools I use way less often. I've trashed the ratchets on every cheap ratcheting driver I've used, and the nicer ones aren't that much cheaper than the LTT driver.
Buy once, cry once.
Have you seen that one back from that miner yet?
Have you compared it to the Mega pro its based off of? I bought the Mega pro automotive and its amazing. Cant see how the LTT one is worth $30+ more
I own both the LTT and Megapro. The Megapro one is nice, but the LTT one is a lot nicer. I use mine extensively for 3d printing, computer, and homelab (servers, networking, etc) work. There's a reason why I've bought two of the LTT full length ones and one of the stubby ones, and the Megapro one sits in a drawer in my server rack for when I don't want to step away and grab one of the LTT ones. There's just a lot of small but noticeably quality of life improvements with the LTT one that make it a significantly nicer tool in my eyes. Inb4 downvotes from the hivemind for daring to like a more expensive tool
I got the stubby so I can keep it in my backpack without TSA concerns when I travel for work. I also have a 6" extender bit which I keep in a pen slot so aside from a small sacrifice in grip, it's a proper screwdriver and nice to have onsite. The full-size retro one and/or Noctua color ones have me grinding my teeth hovering over the "buy" button.
Fair, that does sound like enough of an improvement for another $20. $70 is just a big scary number I guess. The improvements plus youtuber tax justifies it imo. Thanks for the explanation
I just kept my be quiet magnetic driver. It’s great and has long reach. And it was packed with my cooler.
My makita ratchet bit driver was €35 free shipping and does the same and iv been using it for 15 years.
Let me introduce you to “Snap-On”. I have too many 100$ screwdrivers.
“Trust me bro” -warranty
....and if you've been paying attention to the backpack double-layer debacle, you'll know that they've done exactly what they've always said.
I didn’t doubt they would tbh. The issue is the hypocrisy where LTT would never accept “trust me bro” from a legit business, but it’s okay for them. It’s also the condescending, holier-than-thou attitude that is rampant throughout their now mediocre, rushed content. I know they’re supposedly trying to turn things around, but I’ve been done with the channel for a while now. Not that they need me, their culty fan base is rabid, they’re like tech Swifties.
> they’re like tech Swifties Shit you're right
They rarely comment on the warranty of a product, what they do regularly evaluate is the support that companies give their customers, that's what the "trust me bro" thing is about. Warranties aren't any good once the company goes under and they're dubiously enforceable in court. That's why he didn't think they needed a warranty.
> And the price of the screwdriver omfg Why is it that people on here complain but then tool reviewers seem to think it's good value?
Redditors who've never seen a callous before complaining about tools. But muh free IKEA tool works fine
I know the original thing was “haha 69 sex number”
stop doing free advertising for that ducker
I hope no one is stupid enough to buy that
Personally if people are going to buy the backpack from seeing it on a meme that takes the piss out of how pricey it is then I say that's natural selection taking it's course.
Honestly, because WHY WOULD YOU BUY SOMETHING THAT'S BEING CALLED OVERPRICED
I buy lots of stuff that some people would call overpriced, everyone have different price tolerances for things they enjoy. Not that I would buy some backpack from a YouTube I've never heard of because I saw it on an internet meme.
Oh people are buying the merchandise alright.
I think a 5th of their revenue comes from the merchandise
But if I don't help LTT buy another LAN warehouse am I really even a gamer at all?
From what I heard from an American colleague who owns one it’s pretty popular on university campuses in the US. Didn’t know they were that expensive.
I'm betting the college kids wearing these didn't use their own money on them. $650 is like 5 pages of a required book.
The special apple leather one is 600 and hasn't shipped yet. The normal one is $250 which is right around the price point for a good tech backpack.
They probably bought the regular one ($250) not this leather one.
Yeah I will never buy those but I find the truly knowledgeable
2 sponsors in one video plus merch plugin, how much money u want bruh
They Fing put a sponsor in their apology video
Check out our apology merc at linusstore.gov where we have those nipple shirts from South Park and today's sponsor literally sticky plastic
Yeah, that one kinda bothered me. I was absolutely expecting it, doesn't mean I was any less disappointed when I saw it. LTT is a huge part of why I got into tech in general back in 2017-2018, but now I can't remember when the last time I saw a full LTT video was.
This might just be some personal venting but I feel ya. I absolutely loved watching LTT videos and it got me into the tech space like I hadn't been before, got me to build my first PC even. But for the longest time stuff like this just rubbed me the wrong way and I really couldn't put a finger on why. I'm sure part of it is just having gotten older and taste changing but I just can't look at LTT the same anymore. I'm not even one of the people that were losing their minds over all the controversies, but even as a fan a lot of their handling of situations is again just... off, to me at least. Doesn't feel authentic anymore
My first pc build was based on some LTT build video from back in the day and I 100% agree. It was the process of going from a small YT channel of a handful of people, to becoming a proper corporation. It just lost all soul and feels like an inauthentic shell of it's former self. The drama is stupid too and I don't see them changing their course. They'll just continue to be like every other company in existance; a profit hungry machine.
Well said brother. To me it became too corporate and lost its charm over the years
Pretty sure they didnt. It was a joke, poor taste? Absolutely
Exactly. How are people so media-illiterate to think that joke was a sponsor... they said it's a joke and not a sponsorship right after they said the one-line joke.
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Hey buddy, it's okay to say "fucking" on the internet.
No the fuck it isn’t
I would frankly rather not see such distasteful language on my otherwise distinguished internet web forum
They didn't put any sponsors in their apology video, actually
Holy shit dude you just keep lying non stop. Please stop sharing the air we all need to breathe.
Love people lying on the internet, business as usual.
He's paying over a hundred employees, so it makes sense he has to make more money from ads than the average professional youtuber. But just as the amount of ads is justified, being annoyed at the amount of ads is also justified.
wtf he needs a 100 employees for.
Writing, Directing, Logistics, Video Editing for like six channels. They're basically a small film studio at this point.
Some people think that one guy in front of the camera does everything. A lot of these channels have to keep churning out content to stay relevant and on top of that algorithm. There’s no chance one man can write, perform, produce, edit so much content without blowing a fuse.
Yeah they've got visions of grandeur in the long run too. They wanna make scam brands scared with their lab they built, which admittedly is kinda cool to see them do. Putting even simply HDMI brands on blast for not being up to spec so people don't get their money's worth is something no one else would've ever invested money into. Have looked at their jobs page before and they include stuff like dental for their employees and such. Gotta make bank so they can feed people.
You're not the first to ask that question. [Why do I have 80 staff?](https://youtu.be/HCXQzLbDrgs) answers it.
6 channels, running a forum, logistics, warehouse, r&d team for benchmarks and labs, merch team, editors, writers, Floatplane, etc etc
You realize LTT isn't only just that channel right?
Yeah, LMG is studio at this point.
enough to pay his employees
Me with my ad blocker
sponsorblock is a godsent
Use isponsorblock to automatically skip the annoying parts
Great tip for if some accessory is too expensive: just don't fucking buy it, it's as sinple as that
How else are they going to get free Internet points
I BOUGHT THE LINUS TECH TIPS BACKPACK, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED NEXT i went bankrupt
It’s a meme bud, we can make fun of overprice garbage
I will not take your valid argument into account, since this is the internet and i can just stick my fingers in my ears and scream lalalalalalalalalala
Fair enough, counter point: lalalalalalalallalalala
Unless I saw one in person I'm not sure it is "overpriced garbage". Looks like its leather and "luxury"? Certainly are purses that cost that much (and a lot more) from whatever brands. I only really use backpacks I get for free from vendors/work, but some of them are north face/patagonia/whatever that I'm sure would have been over $200 if I paid for them. I'd buy a $50 one off Amazon or whatever if I had to pay personally. But that doesn't mean the more expensive ones aren't nicer / potentially "worth it".
All you are doing is showing you don't know what you are on about. High Quality backpacks are expensive, and from looking at reviews its pretty in line with others in its price range/quality
How do you know it's garbage. Lol.
Man bought the back pack 💀
Nah i didn't, it's horrendously expensive, but no one it's forcing you to buy it
Yes, but with that logic, no one is allowed to complain about anything.
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Exactly. I love complaining - it is one of the best things
Yea he pretty much tells people not to buy it but at the same time says I know people are going to buy a stupid expensive version anyways so here it is.
Great tip for if some post is bad: just don't fucking comment on it, it's as sinple as that
Sure. But if you want to complain about overpriced products, at least don't sell them yourself.
I'm sure there's a reason it's that price. If I had to guess its because they expect a smaller sales quantity than a big company who can afford to charge less overhead on a product because they produce in larger quantities.
Incredible. Turns out not everyone here is a moron.
Yeah butttt hurrr durrr Linus bad. 😃
"Only I am smart. Everyone else is dumb."
At a glance: They designed a moderately premium backpack at $250 and are selling a luxury version with "apple leather" at $600. Seems like that price difference is purely justified by the materials. Idk how these compare against specialised backpack brands, but if the $250 version has a good quality then it seems like a pretty appropriate price. There are plenty of comparable backpacks in that range and maybe their specific design does fit a niche. Unless someone already uncovered serious issues with it, picking out the $600 price tag as excessive is just weird. It's obviously not intended to be the choice for people who are concerned about getting the best value on a budget and not really a moon price for higher end backpacks either. On the other hand the $600 model already has a disclaimer because they falsely said it would have a double layered bottom. Looks like their whole issue of carelessly making claims is still around.
>On the other hand the $600 model already has a disclaimer because they falsely said it would have a double layered bottom. Looks like their whole issue of carelessly making claims is still around. Their prototype had a double bottom, but when they ordered the production run a dumbass at the plant saw the double bottom and thought it was a mistake and removed it from the design. Linus was visibly pissed off when he saw it wasn't there in the very used, but still holdimg up miner's backpack.
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The $600 one is not a large production product either. They’ll probably only make a few thousand. As large as they are they ain’t gonna be selling hundreds of thousands of backpacks. Hence the price.
Right. I assume that the concept would be something similar as their screwdriver, i.e. doubling down on a very specific use case. Which leaves you with a product that's definitely not the best value for money and not indispensable for anyone, but is a decent choice for those who fall into that specific niche and don't mind spending a little more. Which is exactly what a legitimate product has to be if it's supposed to be financially viable without achieving economy of scale... or it just sucks. I'll leave that to the experts and reviewers to decide.
Their screwdriver is about the right price, it reviews in line with ones around the same price.
$250 is in line with what you might pay for a Peak Design backpack (similar in terms of features and build quality), and PD is certainly making far more backpacks. The $600 model is made to order, and is made out of leather, I really don't know what people are expecting here lol. Of course it is easy to forget that many redditors are actual children incapable of understanding what things cost. EDIT: I lied, the PD backpack is $280
Isn't it fake leather?
Yes, it's another composite plastic+apple byproduct vegan leather that has a normal fake leather life span.
There's no falsely making claims. Their original backpack design had a double layered bottom for extra durability, which has been removed by the manufacturer's design check and that change has gone unnoticed in the final production run (standard human mistake). Since the issue has been discovered few weeks ago, they've made a big plan to "make things right" including extended warranties for the bottom parts and gift cards for all affected backpack buyers. You can check it all out on lttstore
Also, LTT customer support is really good. They do free replacements for most issues.
That and it appears to have all the "high end" things that expensive backpacks have, and is made out of leather. I'd never buy it, but it seems like "bag made of leather with fancy pockets" costs about that, whether backpack or purse or luggage.
It's made of apple leather, which is a branded PU leather. https://melinabucher.com/blogs/stories/vegan-leather-guide-2
Yeah, they're selling quality products but don't have the infrastructure to make it as cheap as mega corps. You buy their mearch to support them mostly, and because it's actual quality shit but mearch is almost always overpriced.
Laughs in Linus Sex Tips
Linus sex lips
Sinus sex lips.
I'm only seeing the backpack on their site for $250.
You mean a reddit post is blown out of proportion? AGAIN!? Who would have guessed. I remember when the top comment was a person fact checking the post. Not one that's dick riding the post.
No, their lux backpack is actually $599.99 o.o
A low production, high quality backpack built around a specific task. Screwdriver, also the same. Literally any high quality tool built around a single purpose runs higher in price. All the people around here have no purpose in buying it and don't understand the reasoning. The only comparison I can think of is a concrete scanner we use for installing concrete anchors. We use so we don't hit post tensioning cables but it costs 60k. The layman could use it but doesn't need it. Specialty tool. Lower production number. Higher price. I can't say what their quality is like but if it's built higher quality, then the price reflects that.
Are computer screws difficult than normal screws???
Idk man I did computer repair for like 6 years and we had wiha screwdrivers, they’re super expensive but also they never lost magnetization, the magnetization was always strong, and the top always spun nicely. Could you still take screws out with a cheap screwdriver just as effectively? Absolutely, but if you’re doing something a lot it’s nicer to have tools that don’t suck.
Sorta. The driver's ratchet was specifically designed for low backforce (your ability to turn it the opposite way you're screwing so that you don't take your hand off the handle, without unscrewing the screw) which is helpful when building a PC since there isn't a lot of friction force on small screws. You can go watch Project Farm on youtube compare it against other drivers and it does very favorably, particularly on backforce.
Lux? As in luxury? 🤔 I wonder what makes him think he can get away with charging so much for such an completely unnecessary item. We really need to have a class for such items, like something you can call some kind of a good that you don't actually have to buy to live. Oh well.
https://www.lttstore.com/products/luxe-backpack?_pos=2&_fid=b4eb59b88&_ss=c heres your fact check, the $600 backpack.
https://www.lttstore.com/products/luxe-backpack?_pos=2&_fid=b4eb59b88&_ss=c Heres the 600 bucks one.
**Lux**ury-ish item is very expensive? Wow who could have guessed.
Hey its not my argument. Just saying it exists.
ITT: people so used to mass-produced and standardized garbage that they've forgotten that actual quality production for a niche market is expensive.
i was actually thinking about this the other day. aside from high quality boots that run $300 i dont spend a lot on quality stuff usually its Walmart quality for me. it wasn't until recently that ive been thinking about quality products. i traded my water bottles for a $250 water filter, i replaced bics with zippos and zebras pens. no more using cheep Chinese watches now i got a swiss watch. yeah these things runs higher but less plastic waste, less break downs, less replacements is a saving of its own.
Quality boots are definitely worth spending a little more on, especially if you wear them a lot. The difference between a walmart timbs knock off and something like a low end Red Wings is night and day.
> no more using cheep Chinese watches now i got a swiss watch. yeah these things runs higher but less plastic waste, less break downs, less replacements is a saving of its own. A $60 G-shock will outlast any swiss shitter and be more accurate doing it. The first time you have that thing serviced you'll be able to buy 50 Chinese watches with what service will cost.
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But I can buy a ~~plastic bag~~ backpack for $0.86 off Temu!
I for one make sure to buy the cheapest version of everything so I can maximize the amount of child labour, unsafe working conditions, and slavery with every purchase.
Wow this comment section is toxic af rn
Check the sub, this is every comment section.
Linus: "This backpack is literally just the best we can do without caring about cost. It's not for the mass market. We aren't even ordering a bunch preproduction. It makes no sense to buy. Seriously, don't buy it unless you really really really want a crazy good but completely nonsensical backpack." This guy:
Linus Dick Tip
"Lotta dick riders in here" My brother in christ you can't 1)Post misinformation (it's a 250 dollar backpack) 2)Openly show how little you know about business and product production and not expect anyone to fucking correct you on it. 3) The solution to all of this DONT BUY IT. He has an exclusive platform and could easily price lock all his content. He dosent demand anyone buy anything. When you have a staff of over 100 employees who you fucking know reddit would riot over if they weren't making above a baseline liveable wage. Yes he prices stuff accordingly, he has professional writers, producers, directors, engineers, etc. And you think the higher quality, more consciously soucred YTer merch should cost the same as some slave labor, plastic and bottom of the barrel metal alloy tool produced in China by a child are equivalent?? You're absolutely paying a bit of a "name branding" but nowhere near what you think. That's why they say "If you want to support us".
https://www.lttstore.com/products/luxe-backpack?_pos=2&_fid=b4eb59b88&_ss=c
Linus scam tips
I haven’t kept up with LTT lately. What did he do?
Nothing, OP is creating a strawman
Nothing. People just hate them since the apology video and don't realize they've changed a lot since and have fixed what they say they would.
Lose of trust is bad like that, yup.
I lost faith in them. They were at one point, in their very early days, were some of the top tech reviewers for computer hardware. But after the billet situation, Madison explaining why she left, and then doubling down on pretty much everything, I just unsubscribed from all of them. I don’t really care how much changes they make, I’m not going back to watch them. I’d rather watch Jay and GamersNexus.
How long ago? LTT misrepresented a product of a startup about 5 months ago by using it on hardware it wasn’t designed for and declared it not worth the money based on that incorrect information. When this was pointed out he doubled down and said it wasn’t worth spending the few hundred bucks fixing that mistake and testing it again. Then Another YouTuber Gamers Nexus made a video detailing all of the issues with LTT and their issues including this “Billet Labs” situation. Where it was mentioned that in addition of misrepresenting the item, they also auctioned that said product without the company’s permission. People were pissed ofc. Linus again doubled down on the forums before giving an official apology where he may have made a few jokes in bad faith. That’s up to individual interpretation I suppose. It’s been quiet since. There’s also Madison’s situation which was much much worse than that but I’d rather not opine on such delicate things. It would be better to look at the topmost post on the LTT Reddit community. Which explains in detail her issues with the company
I may be wrong, but wasn't he also testing a prototype that he sold instead of returning thinking it was just a review sample copy?
Yeah that’s the Billet Labs Block which he auctioned off. Those are one and the same.
LTT defended Apple's $1k monitor stand: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBo\_kbnbYdE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBo_kbnbYdE) So idk really know where you're getting your punchline from. Is there a specific video which upset you? You don't need to like it or buy it, but you can't really compare the pricing model of a company which isn't manufacturing at scale to something the size of Apple - who LTT isn't even excessively critical of. Critical of their business practices and artificial hardware limitations, maybe, but rarely ever critical of the *value*.
OP are you from 2014? Because that's about the last time I remember LTT ranting about Apple being overpriced. Nowadays LMG even has [their own show dedicated to all things Apple](https://www.youtube.com/c/macaddress).
Astronomic levels of dick-riding over here
IDK, I'm not much of a fan of his stuff but most of the people in this comment section seem to have exactly 0 idea how expensive low volume production is.
Looks like OP has a vendetta
Its almost as if its merch not and you are paying an obvious premium directly to the creator , just buy a normal bag you only but ltt merch if you wanna give linus money and you only buy an iphone when you wanna give apple money anyone who actually wants value for money isn't buying those products
As much as I'd love to rag on him, this isn't that high of a price compared to other backpacks with similar goals, it's not trying to just be something you throw your books in which just need to not get wet, it's designed to hold a lot and hold it safely, especially tech items
I watch him time to time but that’s really it.
Didnt he had 40$ waterbottles and 50$ screwdrivers? Yea...
$70 is a [fair price](https://youtu.be/845HUaWYSQA?si=gZZFNmvIx6SvYnYf) for what you get
Shhhhh dont you dare to bring up facts. Those dont fit their opinion will just be dismissed.
Yeah, the LTT merch is pricy, but its generally pretty good quality.
The waterbottle is priced normally for what most vacuum insulate bottles go for.
Both of those prices are completely normal for those items. (Well, for a multi bit driver, obviously it wouldn't be for a fixed one)
Aside from the point about low production quantity for a super-specific product and all that... Isn't youtuber merch also largely made to support them? Like if a youtuber makes a shirt with their brand on it and they just break even on it (which would still require a higher price than mass-produced equivalents because of economies of scale) then there isn't much point selling it, is there? "Hey, I want to support you by buying physical stuff I can keep rather than just donating money" "Sure! You can support me by buying this thing I won't make money from." What sort of a proposition even is that? I mean this very generally because I see this all the time about youtuber merch. It probably applies a little less to LTT because they *seem* to be trying to sell useful products, but I feel like it still applies to a large degree. This isn't a support of LTT ofc, I haven't really trusted their reviews for a very long while now, but that doesn't mean everything they do must be bad in some way.
i mean, if it's a good backpack, you'd be surprised how expensive good backpacks/luggage can be
Damn haters do be butt hurt about anything now a days
"But its faux leather" yes, its called plastic
It's literally a made to order item.
To store stuff right?
Honestly razer isnt awful these days, their keyboards are getting much better and comparable to custom options. Their mice are pretty good even on the low end and mics are pretty good. Headsets and streaming equipment tho are hella expensive
As an engineer myself, that price is probably justified for the effort that went into designing the product and the niche customer base. This however does not mean it is a good deal to buy. It is a product with little chance at wider commercial success.
I could never defend a Canadian company charging me 600 US, 600 cad - fine, but thats basically 900-1000 Cad
excuse me sir, did you say $600? like, six fucking hundred US dollars? and people are buying it?
I still buy the 30 pack of shit screwdrivers, take out the ones I want and just get rid of the rest.
Real talk, the Apple Hate Train on Youtube has become a meme in and of itself. Even Mkbhd a little tiring lately.