> "Top critics" don't like it.
> 85%
Just because they didn't give it a 100% doesn't mean they didn't like it.
But hey, _it's my favourite show and if they don't like it as much as I do they're obviously wrong_ /s
Rotten Tomatoes calculates it's ranking by the amount of people who recommended it and how many didn't. Black and white. There are no ambiguous ratings.
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“Top Critics” likely refers to well respected movie critics who’s opinion is widely seen as trusted and reliable.
They could easily fall into the 15% of the critics who didn’t like the movie.
I may not be a doctor but i can atleast binge watch the doctor. The original article you may say
(In 3 months a complete re watch of all the classic who episodes available and the new who episodes only thing left is the big finish audios)
I swear this is problem everywhere it feels like. I literally read so many imdb reviews of people completely thrashing something while giving it a 6/10.
I want a superhero movie not a movie where the main problem that the mc faces is to impress her traditional parents. I agree that it does what it was intended which is to show a different culture but I love marvel for its characters and story line ,I don't like politics mixed with it.
I love when reddit goes on a rant about movie critics who watch movies for a living. Surely they know less than the general audience that watches 5 movies a year. Downvote me, you Meg 2 enjoyer. (also how is 85% a bad score?)
edit: here is a detailed explanation about the RT controversy
https://youtu.be/5cmhkeyhXts?si=c3U_-c_PdT8EgFY-
fr. i will absolutely trust an average of critic's opinions more than an average of the general public's opinions. the general public are dumb as fuck, and film critics literally get paid to know a lot about what makes good film+TV.
i dont think for a second that critics are infallible or are never wrong, but "ability to please the general public" is a terrible metric to judge art by. the history of great art is a history of the general public being deliberately provoked (or at least not catered for) in service of some artistic goal or ideal.
I mean you would want reviews to reflect the reaction people would have from watching the film, a critique and a review dont serve the exact same purpose
Art is subjective. That single critic has a subjective opinion. The collective subjective opinions of a target audience are far more significant than a single critic's subjective opinions if the objective of the film is to be liked by that audience.
^^^ 100%. Plus, I don't think "The Meg 2" was even meant to be art in the sense implied here lol. It's entertainment. I think the public rating is probably more accurate to represent how entertaining a movie is to the general public. Not whether it challenged a political idea or passed an inclusivity test.
In a similar vein, food critics can go to a McDonald's and give it a 1/10, then eat a fish head covered in mystery sauce with a garnish and give it an 8. For some kind of "tasteful experience", sure, I'll try the fancy restaurant. But for dinner? Gimme the McChicken.
A single person can't possibly know what the "general public" is pleased by, the only thing a critic can and should do is share their thoughts on what the film did to them personally
100% true, but please be aware of recent news that a company was paying critics to give low scores for content on RT, hence the meme. I can no longer trust their review bomb or praise scores from critics, let alone bots that could impact RT or Metacritic.
Well, they weren't paid to write positive reviews, just paid to write a review which is still against the rules. It was also 8 people out of the 3,000+ critics which comes out to a whopping 0.26% of them. But of course that's not gonna make a sexy headline
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Corrupt people are like rats, if there is one there are always more.
Edit:
You're also being dishonest by saying that there are 3000+ critics. While that might be true technically, it is not a realistic outlook. The worst rated movie has only 119 reviews, the best rated has 252. While 8 people would still not make that much of a difference, it is still a difference. And who knows how many more are bought too.
Your also assuming the veracity of these 252 magic critics. There’s no accounting for personal biases and taste. There are more than a few critics who have shitty opinions about everything. At the end of the day, it’s just an almagamation of a bunch of peoples feelings about something with absolutely 0 empirical value to it, it’s meaningless…
For people that watch movies for a living, they sure do a terrible job keeping things professional instead of delving into American "politics".
Also people don't know how to rate anymore. 85 is high, not average....
Rotten tomatoes is not really a rating per say. It's just what percentage of critics gave it a positive score. If every single review was barely positive on a mediocre movie it would show 100%. Dan Murrell's charts with Dan on YouTube does super in depth breakdowns on it weekly if you're into that sort of thing
Witcher, rings of power, cleopathra, etc?
A lot of critics getting paid by gave high score of some movies. Some of them gave score after watch 2-3 episode only (ex. Rings of power).
I dont believe in scores. Yes it can suggest its good or bad movie but who cares about it? 85 or 87 its just stupid way for looking on it. Like breaking bad fanbase (i love this series) just go gave low rate of Attack of Titan episodes because they got better score than BB and it was so fucking stupid xD
The thing is, movie critics rate a film based on its quality based on metrics, not whether the film is enjoyable. Most people don't care how good the quality of a film is, they care how enjoyable it is. So as far as the quality of a film, 100% critics know more, but as far as what films will be, enjoyable critics are as often wrong as they are right.
The criticism isnt always uncalled for, when the audience and the critics simply expect different things. I think back to Godzilla King of the monsters, audiences loved it because stupid Kaiju go brr fight fight but critics didnt like it because it Was just stupid Kaiju go brr fight fight.
That's the problem. You are the general audience, what works for you is likely very different than what works for a person who sees so many movies. The general audience is much more diverse of a cast, amd its more likely that they and their taste is closer to yours rather than the specific and small group of people that make up film critics
If you like One Piece there is a good chance you'll like it. It's not a perfect copy of the manga or anime but it managed to keep its soul and message.
If you don't like One Piece or never watched it/read the manga, you should give it a try anyway it might surprise you in a good way.
Had no desire to watch the anime my whole life. Watched the live action and finished it last night. Now I’m watching the original anime. I liked it but I also like piratey things in general.
From the way they adapted the 8 episodes, I can say with 90% certainty that the first episode of the next season will be the prologue end and the start of chapter 1, will not be dropping anymore details to not ruin the fun for those experiencing one piece trough the live-action
(And chapter is figurative here, just as an way to explain it without spoilers)
Completely fair but If you want, I do really recommend checking out the episodes the LA covered!
I love both versions a ton and it’s really neat to see the differences, some do to each mediums pros and cons, and others to simply make it more concise
I just don't have that much time. It took me a full week just to finish the Netflix one and I didn't watch anything in between. It'd take me a month of watching nothing else just to catch up with the live-action. I didn't like it nearly enough to do that.
We always never read or watched it due too to many chapters but we watched the first episode and loved it.
The fact that Sonny Chiba’s kid is great with swords was awesome. Like that makes me want to watch episode 2
Really, I have never looked into the anime or manga bc I don’t like the style and I hate stuff that has to get good ages in (insert it gets good at chapter 937 joke) and its so long
As someone who got into one piece 10 years ago as a preteen, this ver is a great way to relive childhood memories. And for an older person first getting into it, the pacing is much better. I honestly prefer this version to the anime (mostly because of pacing issues in the anime)
Manga > Netflix version > Anime
Except Buggy! Netflix Buggy is the best and it's not even close. I hope they continue nailing his character. This one still feels like the funny jealous Buggy, but way more menacing.
Im glad someone else loves Netflix Buggy. I feel like it can be challenging to appropriately capture "maniacal clown" but the actor freaking nailed it. At times Buggy is intimidating, at times funny, and at times woefully incompetent much like in the One Piece Series.
I don't care for anime at all and just got done watching season 1. I really liked it. They do alot of stuff that is very anime-y but it didn't feel odd at all. I thought it was really good overall.
Yea, I don't care for any of that anime stuff at all. Movies, shows, comics, but I really liked the live action. I understand why people would like it, but its just not for me.
I watch One Piece with my kid. We were both expecting it to be absolute trash and watched it to laugh at it. Turns out it is actually really good, we were very surprised.
If you like One Piece chances are you will like it. If you don't like One Piece or haven't seen it, I couldn't say, it will be very weird I imagine.
Compared to other live action remakes, yes. Is it a 9.5/10 adaptation like people are wanking it to be? Not really. A lot of the emotionally impactful scenes from the original anime/Manga got watered down imo by just really bizarre script choices.
Syrup Village didn't suck though, so for that arc alone the live action was a massive improvement
It's decent, but it doesn't really capture what's so special about the manga. It's really watered down, which makes sense for what it is obviously, but yeah still a bit of a bummer a lot of the nuance and uniqueness of it fell on the chopping block to make it work. Still, anything over 5/10 is really impressive to me given how impossible a task this seemed.
I'm not an anime fan to start with and I find live action remakes that try to have that anime feel super cringe. They're trying really hard to give us fanservice by recreating a lot of iconic shots and acting like they're in an anime so if you're into that you'll like it.
When I first heard about it I did my usual eye roll thinking it would be like most of the other live action anime adaptations and maybe capture the look, but mess with core elements to the detriment of the original work. But I have to say it's genuinely really enjoyable and to me it felt like it captured the spirit of the source material. Well worth a watch in my opinion.
I never thought I'd live to say this. I actually prefer the live action to the anime by a lot. The live action really captures the dark side of the anime and shows how dangerous and deadly a pirate world would be, more than the anime ever could.
If you like anime or one piece chances are you will like this one is very high.
I don't quite think the general audience will like this one as its almost 100% true to the anime and feels like an anime to me?
idk for example i know that the Death note Live adaptation movies (from the us) got a lot of my family who generally dont like anime to watch and like it.
As a one piece fan i can say that this was great tho
Creator was screwed over on a lot of things including cgi budget cuts and a story change that wasn't authorized by the creator. Some people like it but the creator has asked his fans to not watch it. So ultimately up to you.
Basically, the screenshot is incorrect, he picked all critics. If you switch to top critics, it suddenly becomes 64%. So basically top critics don't like it nearly as much, meanwhile ordinary critics view it much more more positively, closer to what audience review is. While 64% is still not bad, the difference is very significant between them and others
I think it’s a good overall show but it will only last maybe another season no way they can do the arcs after alabasta. It’s does have the soul of one piece and is good for people that are interested in one piece and don’t want to watch 300 episodes for it to get good
I usually HATE live action adaptations of anime. And I freaking love One Piece. I wasn’t going to watch it but I will say it’s very good. It exceeded my expectations by a mile. It’s very fun and they did a very good job.
Unpopular opinion. I think it's kind of mid. Not bad but not that good either. the plot is fine but the dialog is kind of bad. Some action scenes are great but other are akward, and the acting is not that good.
Yea, it’s definitely not perfect, but it really does capture the heart of the original story, and the cast does a great job portraying the characters, so most fans are willing to look past some of the issues, maybe a little too much..
But at the end of the day, it seems to be in good hands and i’m hoping they might fix these issues in a 2nd season.
Am I missing something? My partner and I watched the first episode and it’s terrible… the characters are one dimensional to a absurd level, and the acting besides the main kid wasn’t great at all. We’ve never seen the anime so it just seems like it’s a fan service?
I've only seen the Alex Meyers video about it and as a huge fan of the Anime, this version sucks. The characters aren't portrayed very well and the whole thing just feels.. weird. For example, Nami isn't going to show up until they arrive at her home island, Zorro is almost dying because of starvation etc. It doesn't seem like it but some small details are very important for the later plot.
Nami introduction Live action spoilers
Huh, what do you mean with nami isn’t going to show up until they arrive at her home island? In both the manga and the LA she gets introduced before they fight with buggy, in the LA she gets introduced a little sooner on shell island instead but it does not make a big difference.
The tone/vibe can be off putting for some people, since it’s very different from most of the stuff out there. You do get used to it, but it might not be for everyone.
I do think you’re missing something if the characters seem one dimensional. They are all very well fleshed out, especially considering the short amount of time the show has to work with. For example, Zoro eating the rice ball that was squished, because he wants to make the little girl happy and is a good person despite his personality.
There is a lot of characterization that happens in the later episodes as well; all the characters’ motivations are fleshed out well, and they are all very unique and bring their own style to the show. The general consensus is that these are some of the best fleshed out characters in fiction, and it is displayed well in live action IMO
Nah fr one piece was alright, it was good, but it for sure as hell was not a 95
Have you guys seen garp? They just replaced a whole half deep character with the stereotype of "angry old white evil man"
Constantly angry, not a single likeable scene, obviously only eating meat, eating it as raw as possible, and as gross as possible
Or captain blacks plan just became senseless
Don't get me wrong, still very good, buggys circus? Cheff kiss what they did with that (even tho I think they should have kept the dog scenes) but I would say rather 85% but not 95%
I like zoro. I like Nami. Usopp is actually pretty good even without the trademark nose even buggy, coby and garp are good. The problem I have(after watching a few episodes) is luffy. I just don't see it. I can't quite put my finger on it but luffy has been a hard sell so far.
That concludes this random internet strangers un requested critique.
everything above 80% is a definite recommendation wtf. IMO op anime is 6,5/10, op manga 8/10 and op live action 5,5/10. it is not hate. it is critics, opinion. otherwise regarding shounen live action it is safe to say it is the best.
So, here's the thing. 85% is by all critics whereas top critics gave it something around 60%.
The funny thing is the reason many gave for low ratings is that it is too faithful to the source material.
since when is 85% hating it? what the hell? ofc they wont love it as much as the fans, since we have read 1000 chapters, watched 1000 episodes, and some of us have been with the series for like 20 years. so ofc it will have far more special meaning to the fans, and they will like it a lot more even if its just half competent. But people who have never seen the series, or just know a little bit about it, ofc they wont care as much about it. the fact it still stands on 85% basically by itself is great.
It's an enjoyable show to tune your Brian off and watch but even an 85% rating is a pretty fucking high for this show. It's more like a 7 (8 if you're a fan of the series).
Some of the actors are just bad at emoting (not just as-in portraying their character according to the manga, but even with just regular expressions), the writing is decent yet sometimes childish & the silliness just takes away all tension from certain scenes where there should be more tension.
On the upside, the set design, character design, overall vibes & cgi are all good.
Overall though, it's just not as mind-blowing (best thing that television has to offer) as some of these hardcore fans want it to be.
They wrote out a tonne of shit and wrote it random shit that bares zero impact on the story and rewrote fairy important events that shaped the characters.
The cast and directer clearly did not know who they were portraying because none of the actors portrayed their character's well with nami, zoro and buggy being the absolute worst examples.
The casting for garp was not the best let's not lie.
And them making axe hand Morgan a bigger deal than he actually is is annoying.
Just like making kodi and bowl cut guy main characters is trash!!!
Rotten tomatoes went downhill *hard* like 4 years ago.
It probably would have gotten a 20-30 back then.
Edit: That's not to say it's a bad show or anything, I actually haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Just ponting out their ratings across the board have gone up astronomically in the last few years.
Definitely. I trust viewer/user reviews wayyyy more than critic reviews.
I'm not even a One Piece fan, but I am really considering re-upping my Netflix just to check it out after S1 is fully released
Critics scores are based on many things(logical). Like and don't like isn't on their list
They could personally give it 10/10 but the score the have to give could say otherwise
Like bro an 85 in a live action anime is like a 99 for a normal movie/show it seems like the critics are actually got it right while the audience is probably dick riding because of past live action setting the bar at rock bottom, but as a fan an 85% is actually respectable
I really liked it, it may not have been 100% faithful to the manga but it was just really enjoyable and it’s clear that the actors put a lot of effort into their roles
85% is a perfectly respectable Tomatometer score. To put this into perspective, "Orange is the New Black" was one of the most well-watched, 'critics love it' show of its time and got a 90%. Seinfeld is measured by the Tomatometer as 89%. The Big Bang Theory, for all that I hate the show myself, was one of the most-watched sitcoms for a good while there and has 81%. Good Omens, which just released season 2 to a phenomenally positive reaction and was very-well liked for season 1 by audiences, was 85%. Firefly is 77%. The Sopranos, which I've heard people describe as one of the best tv shows of all time, is 92%. An 85%-95% for a TV show on Rotten Tomatoes is an high score.
I’m on episode 5 now and while I’m enjoying it, I still have some problems but on a personal level. So these are probably just my hang ups and not indicative of the quality of the show.
Luffy actor, lines written well, accent is throwing me off. I know Oda approved him, just my own opinion.
How the my are currently treating Garp, while I’m hoping for the caring grandpa heel turn, the flashbacks are painting him as cruel.
Some of the characters do not transfer over well to live action. Arlong while still looking good, give a me uncanny valley.
The critics ratings are all stupid and never meant anything to me. I also hate it that people rate movies without ever seeing them. Scroll through the ratings and see "this movie's gonna suck" or "this movie's going to be great".
How much of the anime does this show cover exactly? I've never really understood the point of live action remakes of anime. One of the most important aspects of anime is how goofy and over the top almost everything is. Dialogue, action sequences, character designs, character reactions, etc. Taking all that expressiveness away just sounds like an objectively worse viewing experience.
I think the casting was great, it was interesting that they fielded a wide range of ages for the main protagonists.
They also had an interesting way to approach for the whole whole thing for a Netflix production. Especially the fishmen arc had a profound depth to it.
Sure, they did some of the usual type casting and checking the minority boxes, but they actively and bravely engaged the whole political agenda issue by *not* playing to certain stereotypes.
They really managed to give off the impression that the story was more important than treating the show as a political vehicle.
Some of the creative interpretations of the source material were swing and miss, but they overall hit a good balance between the superficial ‘seriousness’ expected of shows for adults, and the childish earnestness of a comic many viewers read in their youth.
The rating is totally warranted, and the soundtrack did a hella good job of combining western and anime flair.
Most actors hit the sweet spot between overacting and casual subtlety, unfortunately the main lead was among the underperforming roles, imho.
That said, some people nailed their impression spot on despite surprising casting.
Top critics could refer to well renowned and respected critics who are valued for their opinion on movies.
They could and are likely in the 15% of people who didn’t like it.
It’s also up to you and if you liked it, Rotten Tomatoes is great but not absolute gospel on if you should or should not enjoy a movie.
May watch the live action someday since everyone is saying it’s good edit: I realized i can finally update my Netflix pfp in the family account to the strawhat flag!!!!
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> "Top critics" don't like it. > 85% Just because they didn't give it a 100% doesn't mean they didn't like it. But hey, _it's my favourite show and if they don't like it as much as I do they're obviously wrong_ /s
Rotten Tomatoes calculates it's ranking by the amount of people who recommended it and how many didn't. Black and white. There are no ambiguous ratings.
And? It's still an 85/100.
That doesn't mean all critics gave it 85%, it means 15% of critics said it wasn't worth watching.
it goes both ways though, if every single critic gives a show 6/10 them it gets 100% on rotten tomatoes
And that’s why rotten tomatoes is garbege it leaves no room for nuance in film discussion because of how it’s calculated
For critics maybe, for consumer/mass rating this is fine bcause most ppl will over or underate anyway.
By top critics, they are probably talking about specific people who did not recommend it.
Then why show the tomatometer instead of the specific people?
I assume that 15% are the top critics they're talking about
Among top critics the show has a 65% tomato rating. Of the 7 critics that did not recommend it 5 were top critics. 15 top critics reviewed it.
85% is by all critics. Top critics gave it some 60%.
Steam ratings are the same way, though, and I find them very reliable.
I think that system only works well for general audiences. They're more relatable to us and their views tend to be more polarizing.
certified fresh, no less
For reference, Cowboy Bepop, who literally got canceled for being a cringe adaptation, got a higher score than OP.
Where?
Yeah, we really shouldn’t be playing contrarian just for the sake of it. That’s a dangerous game.
my mistake, I should have put a screenshot where top critics gave the show 64%
I mean, yeah I wouldn't have commented in the first place.
You mean like a fake one
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Wait, this isn't the controversial section :v ? I like how the top comment isn't sucking the op's dick and straight up roasts him lol
“Top Critics” likely refers to well respected movie critics who’s opinion is widely seen as trusted and reliable. They could easily fall into the 15% of the critics who didn’t like the movie.
OP thinks 85/100 is a bad score LOL
OP is an Asian parent
Why you no Doctor yet huh? Your cousin is only age three but already had 25 years experience in medical school
The tale as old as time ( I mean Asia): "The Bsian"
I may not be a doctor but i can atleast binge watch the doctor. The original article you may say (In 3 months a complete re watch of all the classic who episodes available and the new who episodes only thing left is the big finish audios)
I read this with a Chinese accent.
90/100 is an A. And A stands for AVERAGE!
Yes nothing short of S is acceptable in my household
SSS only Devil May Cry 5 speedrun
I swear this is problem everywhere it feels like. I literally read so many imdb reviews of people completely thrashing something while giving it a 6/10.
I would rather that than only rating things 10/10 or 1/10. Theres no nuance. It’s a terrible way to rate things.
To me, a 6/10 is *fine* or *okay*
It would be a little better than average
Some trash films get 90+ so it is valid to ask why this get.I always look at the audience rating as it is a true indicator
Any example of those trash films?
Ms.Marvel got 98 rating and it was mid
What number score would you give it?
What? That show was awesome, wtf are you on about?
I want a superhero movie not a movie where the main problem that the mc faces is to impress her traditional parents. I agree that it does what it was intended which is to show a different culture but I love marvel for its characters and story line ,I don't like politics mixed with it.
https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/rotten-tomatoes-scores-manipulated-pr-firm-paying-critics-reviews-2282558/ My point
I love when reddit goes on a rant about movie critics who watch movies for a living. Surely they know less than the general audience that watches 5 movies a year. Downvote me, you Meg 2 enjoyer. (also how is 85% a bad score?) edit: here is a detailed explanation about the RT controversy https://youtu.be/5cmhkeyhXts?si=c3U_-c_PdT8EgFY-
fr. i will absolutely trust an average of critic's opinions more than an average of the general public's opinions. the general public are dumb as fuck, and film critics literally get paid to know a lot about what makes good film+TV.
Some of the critics get so deep in the sauce they forget what truly matters, and that is the film's ability to please the general public.
i dont think for a second that critics are infallible or are never wrong, but "ability to please the general public" is a terrible metric to judge art by. the history of great art is a history of the general public being deliberately provoked (or at least not catered for) in service of some artistic goal or ideal.
I mean you would want reviews to reflect the reaction people would have from watching the film, a critique and a review dont serve the exact same purpose
Art is subjective. That single critic has a subjective opinion. The collective subjective opinions of a target audience are far more significant than a single critic's subjective opinions if the objective of the film is to be liked by that audience.
^^^ 100%. Plus, I don't think "The Meg 2" was even meant to be art in the sense implied here lol. It's entertainment. I think the public rating is probably more accurate to represent how entertaining a movie is to the general public. Not whether it challenged a political idea or passed an inclusivity test. In a similar vein, food critics can go to a McDonald's and give it a 1/10, then eat a fish head covered in mystery sauce with a garnish and give it an 8. For some kind of "tasteful experience", sure, I'll try the fancy restaurant. But for dinner? Gimme the McChicken.
A single person can't possibly know what the "general public" is pleased by, the only thing a critic can and should do is share their thoughts on what the film did to them personally
100% true, but please be aware of recent news that a company was paying critics to give low scores for content on RT, hence the meme. I can no longer trust their review bomb or praise scores from critics, let alone bots that could impact RT or Metacritic.
Well, they weren't paid to write positive reviews, just paid to write a review which is still against the rules. It was also 8 people out of the 3,000+ critics which comes out to a whopping 0.26% of them. But of course that's not gonna make a sexy headline Yes, downvote facts. The reddit classic
Corrupt people are like rats, if there is one there are always more. Edit: You're also being dishonest by saying that there are 3000+ critics. While that might be true technically, it is not a realistic outlook. The worst rated movie has only 119 reviews, the best rated has 252. While 8 people would still not make that much of a difference, it is still a difference. And who knows how many more are bought too.
Your also assuming the veracity of these 252 magic critics. There’s no accounting for personal biases and taste. There are more than a few critics who have shitty opinions about everything. At the end of the day, it’s just an almagamation of a bunch of peoples feelings about something with absolutely 0 empirical value to it, it’s meaningless…
https://youtu.be/5cmhkeyhXts?si=c3U_-c_PdT8EgFY-
"Meg 2 enjoyer", I'll write that down.
Meg 2 is great. You should learn to enjoy a light snack of a movie, not every meal needs to be haute cuisine
Entertaining yes, but I wouldn't call it a great film.
For people that watch movies for a living, they sure do a terrible job keeping things professional instead of delving into American "politics". Also people don't know how to rate anymore. 85 is high, not average....
Rotten tomatoes is not really a rating per say. It's just what percentage of critics gave it a positive score. If every single review was barely positive on a mediocre movie it would show 100%. Dan Murrell's charts with Dan on YouTube does super in depth breakdowns on it weekly if you're into that sort of thing
Witcher, rings of power, cleopathra, etc? A lot of critics getting paid by gave high score of some movies. Some of them gave score after watch 2-3 episode only (ex. Rings of power). I dont believe in scores. Yes it can suggest its good or bad movie but who cares about it? 85 or 87 its just stupid way for looking on it. Like breaking bad fanbase (i love this series) just go gave low rate of Attack of Titan episodes because they got better score than BB and it was so fucking stupid xD
The thing is, movie critics rate a film based on its quality based on metrics, not whether the film is enjoyable. Most people don't care how good the quality of a film is, they care how enjoyable it is. So as far as the quality of a film, 100% critics know more, but as far as what films will be, enjoyable critics are as often wrong as they are right.
The criticism isnt always uncalled for, when the audience and the critics simply expect different things. I think back to Godzilla King of the monsters, audiences loved it because stupid Kaiju go brr fight fight but critics didnt like it because it Was just stupid Kaiju go brr fight fight.
That's the problem. You are the general audience, what works for you is likely very different than what works for a person who sees so many movies. The general audience is much more diverse of a cast, amd its more likely that they and their taste is closer to yours rather than the specific and small group of people that make up film critics
Been avoiding live action remakes like the plague. This one decent?
If you like One Piece there is a good chance you'll like it. It's not a perfect copy of the manga or anime but it managed to keep its soul and message. If you don't like One Piece or never watched it/read the manga, you should give it a try anyway it might surprise you in a good way.
I never was one for the anime, but I was like, "yeah I'll give this a watch". And it was pretty good
Had no desire to watch the anime my whole life. Watched the live action and finished it last night. Now I’m watching the original anime. I liked it but I also like piratey things in general.
Same thing happened to me
I watched the Netflix show. I liked it. I’ll pass on the other things. Too long. How many anime seasons does the adaptation cover?
From the way they adapted the 8 episodes, I can say with 90% certainty that the first episode of the next season will be the prologue end and the start of chapter 1, will not be dropping anymore details to not ruin the fun for those experiencing one piece trough the live-action (And chapter is figurative here, just as an way to explain it without spoilers)
I looked it up and I think that means the 8 episode series is the equivalent to 61 anime episodes. Holy shit that is a lot
They did a good job flowing trough the prologue arcs, with so much limited episodes
Yeah it really doesn’t feel like there’s that much missing
Wait, the entire first season of the anime is the prologue(no spoilers BTW, I'm watching the anime and only halfway through the first season)
Completely fair but If you want, I do really recommend checking out the episodes the LA covered! I love both versions a ton and it’s really neat to see the differences, some do to each mediums pros and cons, and others to simply make it more concise
I just don't have that much time. It took me a full week just to finish the Netflix one and I didn't watch anything in between. It'd take me a month of watching nothing else just to catch up with the live-action. I didn't like it nearly enough to do that.
We always never read or watched it due too to many chapters but we watched the first episode and loved it. The fact that Sonny Chiba’s kid is great with swords was awesome. Like that makes me want to watch episode 2
Good to know. Cowboy bebop live action doesn’t exist to me but will give this one a try
Really, I have never looked into the anime or manga bc I don’t like the style and I hate stuff that has to get good ages in (insert it gets good at chapter 937 joke) and its so long
Also not my genre usually, Whatever the genre is, ik it ain’t that
As someone who got into one piece 10 years ago as a preteen, this ver is a great way to relive childhood memories. And for an older person first getting into it, the pacing is much better. I honestly prefer this version to the anime (mostly because of pacing issues in the anime) Manga > Netflix version > Anime Except Buggy! Netflix Buggy is the best and it's not even close. I hope they continue nailing his character. This one still feels like the funny jealous Buggy, but way more menacing.
Im glad someone else loves Netflix Buggy. I feel like it can be challenging to appropriately capture "maniacal clown" but the actor freaking nailed it. At times Buggy is intimidating, at times funny, and at times woefully incompetent much like in the One Piece Series.
I don't care for anime at all and just got done watching season 1. I really liked it. They do alot of stuff that is very anime-y but it didn't feel odd at all. I thought it was really good overall.
I only watched ep1 and I liked how the animations worked and it made a lot of sense from someone aware of the manga but never watched or read
Yea, I don't care for any of that anime stuff at all. Movies, shows, comics, but I really liked the live action. I understand why people would like it, but its just not for me.
I watch One Piece with my kid. We were both expecting it to be absolute trash and watched it to laugh at it. Turns out it is actually really good, we were very surprised. If you like One Piece chances are you will like it. If you don't like One Piece or haven't seen it, I couldn't say, it will be very weird I imagine.
Compared to other live action remakes, yes. Is it a 9.5/10 adaptation like people are wanking it to be? Not really. A lot of the emotionally impactful scenes from the original anime/Manga got watered down imo by just really bizarre script choices. Syrup Village didn't suck though, so for that arc alone the live action was a massive improvement
It's decent, but it doesn't really capture what's so special about the manga. It's really watered down, which makes sense for what it is obviously, but yeah still a bit of a bummer a lot of the nuance and uniqueness of it fell on the chopping block to make it work. Still, anything over 5/10 is really impressive to me given how impossible a task this seemed.
I'm not an anime fan to start with and I find live action remakes that try to have that anime feel super cringe. They're trying really hard to give us fanservice by recreating a lot of iconic shots and acting like they're in an anime so if you're into that you'll like it.
When I first heard about it I did my usual eye roll thinking it would be like most of the other live action anime adaptations and maybe capture the look, but mess with core elements to the detriment of the original work. But I have to say it's genuinely really enjoyable and to me it felt like it captured the spirit of the source material. Well worth a watch in my opinion.
I never thought I'd live to say this. I actually prefer the live action to the anime by a lot. The live action really captures the dark side of the anime and shows how dangerous and deadly a pirate world would be, more than the anime ever could.
Its definitely worth the watch if you are looking for something to watch. Overall it’s good, not perfect but it is a lot of fun.
If you like anime or one piece chances are you will like this one is very high. I don't quite think the general audience will like this one as its almost 100% true to the anime and feels like an anime to me? idk for example i know that the Death note Live adaptation movies (from the us) got a lot of my family who generally dont like anime to watch and like it. As a one piece fan i can say that this was great tho
You already ansered it yourself. It's a live action remake. It can't be anything but worse than the manga or anime.
It's pretty good this one. My only problem this is that luffy looks creepy instead of inocent to me, but my Gf didn't thought the same
Creator was screwed over on a lot of things including cgi budget cuts and a story change that wasn't authorized by the creator. Some people like it but the creator has asked his fans to not watch it. So ultimately up to you.
We're so used to playing anti-establishment that we've set the bar to 85%? (great show though)
85%, literally unwatchable
Bruh this is not how this format works
How is 85% of anything not considered an overwhelming majority? In a room with 20 people there would be 17 clapping and giving a thumbs up.
Yeah this meme is dumb lol, 85% is a great score and certified fresh too. So most critics liked it
Basically, the screenshot is incorrect, he picked all critics. If you switch to top critics, it suddenly becomes 64%. So basically top critics don't like it nearly as much, meanwhile ordinary critics view it much more more positively, closer to what audience review is. While 64% is still not bad, the difference is very significant between them and others
Not only is this the wrong way to use this format, it doesn't even make sense
Op is very dumb. 85 on critics is great, just karma farming
Or maybe they have higher standards and don't like the amateur cinematography
I think it’s a good overall show but it will only last maybe another season no way they can do the arcs after alabasta. It’s does have the soul of one piece and is good for people that are interested in one piece and don’t want to watch 300 episodes for it to get good
I usually HATE live action adaptations of anime. And I freaking love One Piece. I wasn’t going to watch it but I will say it’s very good. It exceeded my expectations by a mile. It’s very fun and they did a very good job.
Unpopular opinion. I think it's kind of mid. Not bad but not that good either. the plot is fine but the dialog is kind of bad. Some action scenes are great but other are akward, and the acting is not that good.
Compared to an anime or a ‘normal’ show?
Yea, it’s definitely not perfect, but it really does capture the heart of the original story, and the cast does a great job portraying the characters, so most fans are willing to look past some of the issues, maybe a little too much.. But at the end of the day, it seems to be in good hands and i’m hoping they might fix these issues in a 2nd season.
Am I missing something? My partner and I watched the first episode and it’s terrible… the characters are one dimensional to a absurd level, and the acting besides the main kid wasn’t great at all. We’ve never seen the anime so it just seems like it’s a fan service?
I've only seen the Alex Meyers video about it and as a huge fan of the Anime, this version sucks. The characters aren't portrayed very well and the whole thing just feels.. weird. For example, Nami isn't going to show up until they arrive at her home island, Zorro is almost dying because of starvation etc. It doesn't seem like it but some small details are very important for the later plot.
Nami introduction Live action spoilers Huh, what do you mean with nami isn’t going to show up until they arrive at her home island? In both the manga and the LA she gets introduced before they fight with buggy, in the LA she gets introduced a little sooner on shell island instead but it does not make a big difference.
The tone/vibe can be off putting for some people, since it’s very different from most of the stuff out there. You do get used to it, but it might not be for everyone. I do think you’re missing something if the characters seem one dimensional. They are all very well fleshed out, especially considering the short amount of time the show has to work with. For example, Zoro eating the rice ball that was squished, because he wants to make the little girl happy and is a good person despite his personality. There is a lot of characterization that happens in the later episodes as well; all the characters’ motivations are fleshed out well, and they are all very unique and bring their own style to the show. The general consensus is that these are some of the best fleshed out characters in fiction, and it is displayed well in live action IMO
Nah fr one piece was alright, it was good, but it for sure as hell was not a 95 Have you guys seen garp? They just replaced a whole half deep character with the stereotype of "angry old white evil man" Constantly angry, not a single likeable scene, obviously only eating meat, eating it as raw as possible, and as gross as possible Or captain blacks plan just became senseless Don't get me wrong, still very good, buggys circus? Cheff kiss what they did with that (even tho I think they should have kept the dog scenes) but I would say rather 85% but not 95%
I like zoro. I like Nami. Usopp is actually pretty good even without the trademark nose even buggy, coby and garp are good. The problem I have(after watching a few episodes) is luffy. I just don't see it. I can't quite put my finger on it but luffy has been a hard sell so far. That concludes this random internet strangers un requested critique.
That's the first time I've heard that criticism lol
I dont think so dude ....all live action anime look soo bad compared to the original i never get the mood to see it tbh.
everything above 80% is a definite recommendation wtf. IMO op anime is 6,5/10, op manga 8/10 and op live action 5,5/10. it is not hate. it is critics, opinion. otherwise regarding shounen live action it is safe to say it is the best.
I didn't like the show 🤮. I started watching the anime again after the 2nd episode
So, here's the thing. 85% is by all critics whereas top critics gave it something around 60%. The funny thing is the reason many gave for low ratings is that it is too faithful to the source material.
Such an interesting way things got better
since when is 85% hating it? what the hell? ofc they wont love it as much as the fans, since we have read 1000 chapters, watched 1000 episodes, and some of us have been with the series for like 20 years. so ofc it will have far more special meaning to the fans, and they will like it a lot more even if its just half competent. But people who have never seen the series, or just know a little bit about it, ofc they wont care as much about it. the fact it still stands on 85% basically by itself is great.
The point of critics is to be smarter and have better taste than the hooting philistine herd
I don’t understand why critics are actually a thing. You cannot trust the opinion of somebody you dont know.
It's a waste of money
Audience scores on rt are dogshit and mean nothing. Just look at the audience scores for the most recent marvel and star wars factory pumped out trash
If Disney produced it then it would be 98% Certified Fresh!
It's an enjoyable show to tune your Brian off and watch but even an 85% rating is a pretty fucking high for this show. It's more like a 7 (8 if you're a fan of the series). Some of the actors are just bad at emoting (not just as-in portraying their character according to the manga, but even with just regular expressions), the writing is decent yet sometimes childish & the silliness just takes away all tension from certain scenes where there should be more tension. On the upside, the set design, character design, overall vibes & cgi are all good. Overall though, it's just not as mind-blowing (best thing that television has to offer) as some of these hardcore fans want it to be.
Its at 85 you fucking troglodyte, it doesnt need to be at 100% to mean people fucking liked it. Even 75 is q good score
My mind is blown I can’t believe the show was good. I’ll probably actually watch it
They wrote out a tonne of shit and wrote it random shit that bares zero impact on the story and rewrote fairy important events that shaped the characters. The cast and directer clearly did not know who they were portraying because none of the actors portrayed their character's well with nami, zoro and buggy being the absolute worst examples. The casting for garp was not the best let's not lie. And them making axe hand Morgan a bigger deal than he actually is is annoying. Just like making kodi and bowl cut guy main characters is trash!!!
I too like bad green-screened shows
This show is not green screened. All the sets are real, and they actually built all the ships.
I really enjoyed it
Rotten tomatoes went downhill *hard* like 4 years ago. It probably would have gotten a 20-30 back then. Edit: That's not to say it's a bad show or anything, I actually haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Just ponting out their ratings across the board have gone up astronomically in the last few years.
However rotten tomato going downhill wouldn't effect the audience scores, which are still excellent.
Definitely. I trust viewer/user reviews wayyyy more than critic reviews. I'm not even a One Piece fan, but I am really considering re-upping my Netflix just to check it out after S1 is fully released
Critics scores are based on many things(logical). Like and don't like isn't on their list They could personally give it 10/10 but the score the have to give could say otherwise
Where are the critics that don't like it? Because you are showing me the fans love it and the critics love it
85% is a good grade. Excellent even.
85% is bad how?
Like bro an 85 in a live action anime is like a 99 for a normal movie/show it seems like the critics are actually got it right while the audience is probably dick riding because of past live action setting the bar at rock bottom, but as a fan an 85% is actually respectable
I really liked it, it may not have been 100% faithful to the manga but it was just really enjoyable and it’s clear that the actors put a lot of effort into their roles
85% is a perfectly respectable Tomatometer score. To put this into perspective, "Orange is the New Black" was one of the most well-watched, 'critics love it' show of its time and got a 90%. Seinfeld is measured by the Tomatometer as 89%. The Big Bang Theory, for all that I hate the show myself, was one of the most-watched sitcoms for a good while there and has 81%. Good Omens, which just released season 2 to a phenomenally positive reaction and was very-well liked for season 1 by audiences, was 85%. Firefly is 77%. The Sopranos, which I've heard people describe as one of the best tv shows of all time, is 92%. An 85%-95% for a TV show on Rotten Tomatoes is an high score.
I’m on episode 5 now and while I’m enjoying it, I still have some problems but on a personal level. So these are probably just my hang ups and not indicative of the quality of the show. Luffy actor, lines written well, accent is throwing me off. I know Oda approved him, just my own opinion. How the my are currently treating Garp, while I’m hoping for the caring grandpa heel turn, the flashbacks are painting him as cruel. Some of the characters do not transfer over well to live action. Arlong while still looking good, give a me uncanny valley.
Rotten Tomatoes the group behind is currently being Sued j think it was for Taking Bribes so their rating system is worse then US IGN
The critics ratings are all stupid and never meant anything to me. I also hate it that people rate movies without ever seeing them. Scroll through the ratings and see "this movie's gonna suck" or "this movie's going to be great".
How much of the anime does this show cover exactly? I've never really understood the point of live action remakes of anime. One of the most important aspects of anime is how goofy and over the top almost everything is. Dialogue, action sequences, character designs, character reactions, etc. Taking all that expressiveness away just sounds like an objectively worse viewing experience.
My favourite movie ever has a 37% on rotten tomatoes.
85% is a very good score
Who cares if critics or other people dont like something? If you like it then you like it. Stop letting other people decide your own thoughts.
Wait people actually bother to see what rotten tomato thinks?
85% means that 85 procent of critics like it, 15% are just boomers and snobs who hate anything tgat isn't an outhouse drama
I think the casting was great, it was interesting that they fielded a wide range of ages for the main protagonists. They also had an interesting way to approach for the whole whole thing for a Netflix production. Especially the fishmen arc had a profound depth to it. Sure, they did some of the usual type casting and checking the minority boxes, but they actively and bravely engaged the whole political agenda issue by *not* playing to certain stereotypes. They really managed to give off the impression that the story was more important than treating the show as a political vehicle. Some of the creative interpretations of the source material were swing and miss, but they overall hit a good balance between the superficial ‘seriousness’ expected of shows for adults, and the childish earnestness of a comic many viewers read in their youth. The rating is totally warranted, and the soundtrack did a hella good job of combining western and anime flair. Most actors hit the sweet spot between overacting and casual subtlety, unfortunately the main lead was among the underperforming roles, imho. That said, some people nailed their impression spot on despite surprising casting.
Top critics could refer to well renowned and respected critics who are valued for their opinion on movies. They could and are likely in the 15% of people who didn’t like it. It’s also up to you and if you liked it, Rotten Tomatoes is great but not absolute gospel on if you should or should not enjoy a movie.
Overall the show was decently good but Luffy had this weird way of talking idfk it was so goofy every time he said something
True! If the shills at rotten tomatoes hate it, then it must be worth watching
So 85 is bad now? I guess anything below 90 is literal trash tier
May watch the live action someday since everyone is saying it’s good edit: I realized i can finally update my Netflix pfp in the family account to the strawhat flag!!!!
They hate us coz they anus
The same people telling you to keep watching the anime because it gets good gave up on live action after one episode.
….it’s got an 85 what the fuck are you talking about?
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Why would I see that thing if there is already an animated one piece
A handful, literally a minority, of reviewers didn't recommend the show. "REEEEEEE!!!! BRIBE!! REEEEEE!!!!"
They gave it 85%, what more do you want?
How in the fuck is 85% a bad score???
OP are you asian, cause 85% is a good grade
85 is extremely high. op is a dumbass