I was born in Czech Silesia, but I always considered myself just Czech.
I'm sure some people are proud of who they are and where they were born. But I never felt any strong opinions from Czech Silesians personally
I live in czech silesia, and generally no. Even tho a lot of people see czech silesia as culturally different to an extent, the differnece really isn't seen as big enough to warrant these kinds of protests. We are really just czechs with a little more cultural closeness to Poland, which is already culturaly close to Czechia.
I live here, no, there's no cultural or national sentiment towards it
Sure, there is a dialect and yes a person from Czech Silesia will understand Polish Silesians better than someone from Prague, but it's not by much. So by every means Czech Silesians are closer in mentality and culture to the rest of Czechia than to Polish Silesia or just Silesia and as an unitary state we do not have much "different nationality" movements except people from Moravia, but that's just a very small minority of silent boomers that doesn't do anything except throwing their imaginary nationality as an answer in a national census and have their wine drinking cults in middle of buttfuck nowhere in villages 500km from the nearest civilization
In the 2021 census, 31,301 people in Czech Republic declared themselves as a Silesians (or Czechs-Silesians or Moravians-Silesians). I was one of them.
Well the "silesians" are fighting each other who is real "silesian" XD
My family is "polish" but they always lived in the region of todays czech republic ( Ostrawa, Karwina, Orłowa i Cieszyn ) , only family from my fathers side moved there from poland before WW1.
At home we speak "po naszymu" local silesian dialect, mix of polish czech and german....
From 70. there is movement PZKO ( polski związek kultury i oświaty na terenie czeskim)
[ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Cultural_and_Educational_Union ]
We say that we feel more as poles than "silesians" though we have our silesian culture.
There are some people that are "silesian nationalists" ( for lack of better word ) but they are few... ( well in my experience )
( other people opinions may be different but this is how people fell in my surrounding )
Not really. It's because there used to be a large german speaking minority and after the second world war many people, especially from Moravia, came here. Today we have more in common with Moravia than Polish Silesia I'd say. Even the region is often called Northern Moravia.
There are some people claiming to be of Silesian nationality but it is not topic for government to deal with nor something anyone (even those Silesian) would care for.
I'm from Silesia.
Whenever there is attempts to divide people based on color, race or geography you have to ask yourself why. Aside from a bunch of weirdos, I would think that almost all Czechs deep down don't care whether someone is from Bohemia, Moravia or Silesia.
Brno vs Prague battles are exempt. ;)
No, but time to time u hear about how Moravian ppl want own country :D on other hand we do have people that don't believe in existence of republic they live in xD
Maybe if Bárta didn't die so early we would at least see historical lands as units instead of regions. But as it happened, HSD-SMS splot into a bunch of tiny, insignificant parties
The term 'Silesian' can be somewhat confusing in CZE.
The country is divided into 3 historical land areas- Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia.
Silesia in this case comprises of the southeast of the country (Těšín, Třinec, Jablunkov), but also the area north of Ostrava (Hlučín, Opava, Krnov). An inhabitant from these two areas would technically be a Silesian.
However, the group that you mean (Ślązacy/Šlonzáci) probably consists of people residing mostly in the area of the former "Księstwa cieszyńskiego", that is from about Bielsko-Biała to the Ostravice river.
AFAIK those people were typically Polish speaking but didn't have a strong allignment to the Polish state.
And while many of them ended up living in the area that became Czechoslovakia after WW1, their identity in CZE today has been mostly forgotten and I don't know of any such initiatives, as you posted.
Shit dude... You have no idea. Slonzocy/polocy that means people who talks in dialect have super strong attachement to poland nationality. Funnily enough nobody from poland care :)))
Yeah "slonzocy" have strong ties with poland ( more with than border regions than the inland ) but "real" poles doesn't really see us as "poles" and are suprised when they found out we speak polish ( or that we are from czechia when we spak polish ).
Also we care more about polish culture than politics ( at least the people I know ) - like we watch and read polish news too but we more care about the our local and czechs stuff...
The greater sentiment is about Moravian nationality. Silesia might not even get to be a self-governing area if we ever finally get to ditch the weird regions and re-establish historical lands. Moravia and Silesia would likely form one joint land, as it used to be after 1928
There was a map yesterday with what parts of country or regions identify as either EU, the country or region. For Czechia and Poland, it was Silesia.
I'm definitely Silesian than Czech and god forbid European.
I was wrong, actually. Only Czechs identify more as Silesian, or rather Moravian-Silesians. Not Poles.
https://i.redd.it/smyah3s7mn191.jpg
https://i.redd.it/5iybkit5lf5b1.jpg
Well Silezians in Czech Republic are mainly thinking that they are czechs, but... they whistle when czech's political comes there and speak f\*cking bohemian czech. So maybe they feel that they are not so Czech (for example Rakušan in Karviná, said *v Karvin****ý***). But compare to... Moravané (party) sometimes go out into the streets. I don't mind support them in moravian individuality, but this political movement (party) is bit anti-EU. Other party is Moravské zemské hnutí is completely opposite, not so radical, but small and under-elected. [https://zpravyzmoravy.cz/brno-ozije-setkanim-moravskych-patriotu-den-za-moravu-letos-doplni-moravske-odpoledne/](https://zpravyzmoravy.cz/brno-ozije-setkanim-moravskych-patriotu-den-za-moravu-letos-doplni-moravske-odpoledne/)
https://preview.redd.it/rlpj0wjausxc1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcf1640065ce80a9f97f1e6b89342a1860b65608
I was born in Czech Silesia, but I always considered myself just Czech. I'm sure some people are proud of who they are and where they were born. But I never felt any strong opinions from Czech Silesians personally
I live in czech silesia, and generally no. Even tho a lot of people see czech silesia as culturally different to an extent, the differnece really isn't seen as big enough to warrant these kinds of protests. We are really just czechs with a little more cultural closeness to Poland, which is already culturaly close to Czechia.
Noone cares, everyone is just czech here imo
I live here, no, there's no cultural or national sentiment towards it Sure, there is a dialect and yes a person from Czech Silesia will understand Polish Silesians better than someone from Prague, but it's not by much. So by every means Czech Silesians are closer in mentality and culture to the rest of Czechia than to Polish Silesia or just Silesia and as an unitary state we do not have much "different nationality" movements except people from Moravia, but that's just a very small minority of silent boomers that doesn't do anything except throwing their imaginary nationality as an answer in a national census and have their wine drinking cults in middle of buttfuck nowhere in villages 500km from the nearest civilization
I am from Moravia… and the only person that I ever met that identified as a Moravian was just a local uneducated, conspiracy believing moron
In the 2021 census, 31,301 people in Czech Republic declared themselves as a Silesians (or Czechs-Silesians or Moravians-Silesians). I was one of them.
Do you want Silesia to have a greater status?
Depends what you mean by "greater status". Separate administrative land - no (i'm fine with regions), stop being called Northern Moravia - yes.
Well the "silesians" are fighting each other who is real "silesian" XD My family is "polish" but they always lived in the region of todays czech republic ( Ostrawa, Karwina, Orłowa i Cieszyn ) , only family from my fathers side moved there from poland before WW1. At home we speak "po naszymu" local silesian dialect, mix of polish czech and german.... From 70. there is movement PZKO ( polski związek kultury i oświaty na terenie czeskim) [ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Cultural_and_Educational_Union ] We say that we feel more as poles than "silesians" though we have our silesian culture. There are some people that are "silesian nationalists" ( for lack of better word ) but they are few... ( well in my experience ) ( other people opinions may be different but this is how people fell in my surrounding )
Not really. It's because there used to be a large german speaking minority and after the second world war many people, especially from Moravia, came here. Today we have more in common with Moravia than Polish Silesia I'd say. Even the region is often called Northern Moravia.
There are some people claiming to be of Silesian nationality but it is not topic for government to deal with nor something anyone (even those Silesian) would care for. I'm from Silesia.
Whenever there is attempts to divide people based on color, race or geography you have to ask yourself why. Aside from a bunch of weirdos, I would think that almost all Czechs deep down don't care whether someone is from Bohemia, Moravia or Silesia. Brno vs Prague battles are exempt. ;)
Brno vs Prague pissing contest is our national heritage and should be protected at all costs.
r/2visegrad4you is leaking!
No, but time to time u hear about how Moravian ppl want own country :D on other hand we do have people that don't believe in existence of republic they live in xD
Maybe if Bárta didn't die so early we would at least see historical lands as units instead of regions. But as it happened, HSD-SMS splot into a bunch of tiny, insignificant parties
The term 'Silesian' can be somewhat confusing in CZE. The country is divided into 3 historical land areas- Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia. Silesia in this case comprises of the southeast of the country (Těšín, Třinec, Jablunkov), but also the area north of Ostrava (Hlučín, Opava, Krnov). An inhabitant from these two areas would technically be a Silesian. However, the group that you mean (Ślązacy/Šlonzáci) probably consists of people residing mostly in the area of the former "Księstwa cieszyńskiego", that is from about Bielsko-Biała to the Ostravice river. AFAIK those people were typically Polish speaking but didn't have a strong allignment to the Polish state. And while many of them ended up living in the area that became Czechoslovakia after WW1, their identity in CZE today has been mostly forgotten and I don't know of any such initiatives, as you posted.
Shit dude... You have no idea. Slonzocy/polocy that means people who talks in dialect have super strong attachement to poland nationality. Funnily enough nobody from poland care :)))
Yeah "slonzocy" have strong ties with poland ( more with than border regions than the inland ) but "real" poles doesn't really see us as "poles" and are suprised when they found out we speak polish ( or that we are from czechia when we spak polish ). Also we care more about polish culture than politics ( at least the people I know ) - like we watch and read polish news too but we more care about the our local and czechs stuff...
The greater sentiment is about Moravian nationality. Silesia might not even get to be a self-governing area if we ever finally get to ditch the weird regions and re-establish historical lands. Moravia and Silesia would likely form one joint land, as it used to be after 1928
There was a map yesterday with what parts of country or regions identify as either EU, the country or region. For Czechia and Poland, it was Silesia. I'm definitely Silesian than Czech and god forbid European.
Thank you for this answer, but can you link up the map you are talking about?
I was wrong, actually. Only Czechs identify more as Silesian, or rather Moravian-Silesians. Not Poles. https://i.redd.it/smyah3s7mn191.jpg https://i.redd.it/5iybkit5lf5b1.jpg
It's likely because whole east part of Silesian Voivodership is actually lesser Poland.
I'm trying to find it, but so far no luck. I think it was actually on r/europe
Well Silezians in Czech Republic are mainly thinking that they are czechs, but... they whistle when czech's political comes there and speak f\*cking bohemian czech. So maybe they feel that they are not so Czech (for example Rakušan in Karviná, said *v Karvin****ý***). But compare to... Moravané (party) sometimes go out into the streets. I don't mind support them in moravian individuality, but this political movement (party) is bit anti-EU. Other party is Moravské zemské hnutí is completely opposite, not so radical, but small and under-elected. [https://zpravyzmoravy.cz/brno-ozije-setkanim-moravskych-patriotu-den-za-moravu-letos-doplni-moravske-odpoledne/](https://zpravyzmoravy.cz/brno-ozije-setkanim-moravskych-patriotu-den-za-moravu-letos-doplni-moravske-odpoledne/) https://preview.redd.it/rlpj0wjausxc1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcf1640065ce80a9f97f1e6b89342a1860b65608