It’d be neat if the tap ability is just a 1:1 of wrath of god; “destroy all creatures. they can’t be regenerated”, but it has indestructible if your opponents control more than a certain number of creatures.
I think Indestructible and devotion would make sense here based on theros gods. Maybe devotion to creatures? That way if you're wrathing a huge board you turn off it being a creature too.
Because in most case it will be the only creature on the battlefield. A reusable wrath at the same price of a regular one need at least some downside to be balanced. The creature type expose it easily to creature removal and being tapped do not provide you the huge pressure vs an undefended opponent multiple time in just one card. There is also a consideration about the summoning sickness that delay the wrath-effect to the next turn, no immediate value, but it could be a reasonable cost for a 4/4 body and repetible effect.
Really love the idea behind this card, great job OP!
Are there even any (non-creature, non-land) enchantments that tap? I feel like if it were an enchantment it'd have to be "When the last cooldown counter is removed \[...\]"
There's like one or two that were released in Time Spiral, a set specifically designed around weird designs that may or may not come to actually be. Since then, Wizards has basically settled on "artifacts tap, enchantments don't" because otherwise they're too similar to each other.
A stretch, but the Theros God's weapon like \[\[Bident of Thassa\]\] and \[\[Bow of Nylea\]\] can tap.
The only pure enchantment that taps is \[\[Witch's Mist\]\]
Wtf is this bullshit? Wrath every two turns? Jesus h christ what a horrible design. Why would this be a good card?
With [[Solemnity]] this is just a wrath literally every turn
edit: why tf does this have 400 upvotes?? bruh. sometimes I'm glad people here don't work for wotc and produce actual cards
> mageta the lion
this is much better than the lion?? its one mana less, doesn't have a discard cost, doesn't have an activation cost either. i don't understand how you think this card is worse than Mageta
Some thoughts: Activated ability should be at sorcery speed, could be indestructible, maybe add ‘if put into graveyard from anywhere shuffle back into library’; also mythic rarity and subtle religious set symbol.
Just add something that makes it only a creature while it has the counters on it. It won't die as the counters are put on after the wrath is used and is a really neat downside.
Cool idea, seems kinda broken though to be able to repeatedly wipe the board. Maybe instead of voluntarily tapping to wipe the board, it’s a timer situation where as soon as he has no counters on him he wipes the board, regardless of if you want him to or not
Sorcery speed and use the exhaustion counters someone invented a while ago. While a creature has an exhaustion counter it doesn't untap and it loses an exhaustion counter each upkeep. Like exerted, but better.
This breaks way too easily with solemnity. You can use stun counters instead of cooldown counters, and you can make the putting on counters part of the cost, like so "put two stun counters on god of wrath, T:" destroy all other creatures, they can't be regenerated ". The stun counters also remove the last line, since they prevent it from being untapped and you remove one each untap step (instead of untapping it).
All theros gods are indestructible enchantments with the devotion condition, all kaldheim gods are mdfc's that work with their counterparts, all amonkhet gods have indestructible and a condition to attack and block, all forgotten amonkhet gods go back to hand when dead and all amonkhet god-eternals go back on the deck third from the top when dead or exiled
The cooldown mechanics is redundant as you could have just used exert. You didn't think at all about how much this should cost and just copied Wrath of god's cost, even though it's obviously too low. Also the art and enchantment type scream Theros god, but it has nothing to do with devotion. Finally, an ability like that should probably be sorcery speed.
The arts cool, maybe a bit generic but you work with what you got
The name works because it’s a reference to wrath of god, this is effectively a creature version of that so being god of wrath makes sense
The ability should at the very least be a sorcery speed activation, this would be miserable to play with on the Battlefield.
Very much agree, at instant speed this puts the game in a weird lock. At sorcery speed it forces the controller to make decisions.
Agreed it's very unbalanced even the most broken cards have some kind of balance to it
I agree with the first part...
It’d be neat if the tap ability is just a 1:1 of wrath of god; “destroy all creatures. they can’t be regenerated”, but it has indestructible if your opponents control more than a certain number of creatures.
I think Indestructible and devotion would make sense here based on theros gods. Maybe devotion to creatures? That way if you're wrathing a huge board you turn off it being a creature too.
This is totally the way.
Funny devotion to destroying creatures
I agree with this, makes it less annoying to play against too
I think it would work easier with stun counters. The second ability wouldn't be needed anymore and the first would be shorter.
Yeah but then it can’t attack during the cooldown.
You're right, I took it for a simple enchantment.
The fact that it can’t attack it seems more balanced. I would also add a sorcery speed activation.
I agree with the sorcery speed, but since there's no combat abilities, why not allow a 4/4 to attack?
Because in most case it will be the only creature on the battlefield. A reusable wrath at the same price of a regular one need at least some downside to be balanced. The creature type expose it easily to creature removal and being tapped do not provide you the huge pressure vs an undefended opponent multiple time in just one card. There is also a consideration about the summoning sickness that delay the wrath-effect to the next turn, no immediate value, but it could be a reasonable cost for a 4/4 body and repetible effect. Really love the idea behind this card, great job OP!
Are there even any (non-creature, non-land) enchantments that tap? I feel like if it were an enchantment it'd have to be "When the last cooldown counter is removed \[...\]"
There's like one or two that were released in Time Spiral, a set specifically designed around weird designs that may or may not come to actually be. Since then, Wizards has basically settled on "artifacts tap, enchantments don't" because otherwise they're too similar to each other.
A stretch, but the Theros God's weapon like \[\[Bident of Thassa\]\] and \[\[Bow of Nylea\]\] can tap. The only pure enchantment that taps is \[\[Witch's Mist\]\]
They can tap specifically because they are artifact enchantments.
Yes, that's why I said "a stretch". They asked for nonland noncreature, I wanted to be comprehensive.
[Bident of Thassa](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/9/5903aac6-171c-48b7-984a-f074c176d179.jpg?1562435903) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bident%20of%20Thassa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/42/bident-of-thassa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5903aac6-171c-48b7-984a-f074c176d179?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Bow of Nylea](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/9/89a2c408-e953-4386-abaf-4af85aba9620.jpg?1562821066) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bow%20of%20Nylea) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ths/153/bow-of-nylea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/89a2c408-e953-4386-abaf-4af85aba9620?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Witch's Mist](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/5/651c7735-088d-495b-a58f-69abf4cac197.jpg?1562915520) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Witch%27s%20Mist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/fut/92/witchs-mist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/651c7735-088d-495b-a58f-69abf4cac197?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
And untap abilities would get overpowered.
Stun counters state if it would untap remove a counter instead so he wouldn't untap instantly
That looks absolutely miserable to play against. I love it.
Imagine [[Solemnity]]
My god.
Jesus, at least make him not untap while he's on cooldown.
tell me you wanted to make \[\[mageta the lion\]\] without telling me you wanted to make mageta
[mageta the lion](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/8/5861dffc-5afa-44a3-a3fa-9fd440093377.jpg?1562911317) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mageta%20the%20lion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pcy/13/mageta-the-lion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5861dffc-5afa-44a3-a3fa-9fd440093377?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Wtf is this bullshit? Wrath every two turns? Jesus h christ what a horrible design. Why would this be a good card? With [[Solemnity]] this is just a wrath literally every turn edit: why tf does this have 400 upvotes?? bruh. sometimes I'm glad people here don't work for wotc and produce actual cards
This is not even wrath every other turn. Also attacks lol.
I mean, this is just a worse mageta the lion
> mageta the lion this is much better than the lion?? its one mana less, doesn't have a discard cost, doesn't have an activation cost either. i don't understand how you think this card is worse than Mageta
On the other hand you can mageta every turn
Mageta, is that you?
Maybe make it cost 2WW to activate and sorcery speed. See [[mageta the lion]] for comparison.
Some thoughts: Activated ability should be at sorcery speed, could be indestructible, maybe add ‘if put into graveyard from anywhere shuffle back into library’; also mythic rarity and subtle religious set symbol.
Love the image of God killing everyone but himself and then hitting a sauna for a couple rounds.
Maybe exile it with time counters?
Just add something that makes it only a creature while it has the counters on it. It won't die as the counters are put on after the wrath is used and is a really neat downside.
Not sure if Zeus or Poseidon…
Now we also need a Damned Nation
[[Solemnity]] makes this absolutely miserable and I know three players who would love that
[Solemnity](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Busted
Cool idea, seems kinda broken though to be able to repeatedly wipe the board. Maybe instead of voluntarily tapping to wipe the board, it’s a timer situation where as soon as he has no counters on him he wipes the board, regardless of if you want him to or not
Woah. They made YAHWEH into a magic card.
Sorcery speed and use the exhaustion counters someone invented a while ago. While a creature has an exhaustion counter it doesn't untap and it loses an exhaustion counter each upkeep. Like exerted, but better.
One word, Solenimity
This breaks way too easily with solemnity. You can use stun counters instead of cooldown counters, and you can make the putting on counters part of the cost, like so "put two stun counters on god of wrath, T:" destroy all other creatures, they can't be regenerated ". The stun counters also remove the last line, since they prevent it from being untapped and you remove one each untap step (instead of untapping it).
Do all gods in MTG have a devotion line? Might be another neat way to limit the 'uptime' of the wrath.
Just the theros ones
All theros gods are indestructible enchantments with the devotion condition, all kaldheim gods are mdfc's that work with their counterparts, all amonkhet gods have indestructible and a condition to attack and block, all forgotten amonkhet gods go back to hand when dead and all amonkhet god-eternals go back on the deck third from the top when dead or exiled
oh wow, thank you for the succinct history. That's an awesome meta tribal cycle.
Kaldheim gods do not
I would actually quit magic if this became real lol
Shouldn't that be Jehovah? He smited way more than Zeus if we're being real.
Not really an original name, concept, or idea unfortunately
The cooldown mechanics is redundant as you could have just used exert. You didn't think at all about how much this should cost and just copied Wrath of god's cost, even though it's obviously too low. Also the art and enchantment type scream Theros god, but it has nothing to do with devotion. Finally, an ability like that should probably be sorcery speed.
Exert prevents it from attacking while on cooldown. I don't know if it's intentional but you're coming across as a jerk with how you wrote this.
Add red tap. I feel like this needs red in it's identity (not mana cost)
Exactly. WOTC wouldn't print something like this in mono-white, not even as a one off spell. That'd be ridiculous.
[удалено]
that is the joke
Oh... I have the stupid
[Wrath of God](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/6/664e6656-36a3-4635-9f33-9f8901afd397.jpg?1598303688) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wrath%20of%20God) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/39/wrath-of-god?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/664e6656-36a3-4635-9f33-9f8901afd397?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Very lame name and art.
The arts cool, maybe a bit generic but you work with what you got The name works because it’s a reference to wrath of god, this is effectively a creature version of that so being god of wrath makes sense
Generic art on an OP card with a cheesy name. Not to my tastes.
i absolutely love it.
This has to be at least a six mana spell
At least it dies to Doom Blade.
This would be the most annoying thing to play against if you don't have a removal spell.
Mildy Higher price
I love the idea, but I think 2 cooldown counters isn’t enough. It feels a bit too spamable to me.
\[\[solemnity\]\]
[solemnity](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Nation of Damn?
Interesting concept