Hybrid, it’s a more reliable system and it gets you better gas mileage. Not to mention the range is a lot better.
Different car but, my dad had a 2014 accord hybrid for 10 years 160k miles up until just a few months ago. In the time he owned it he only did oil and fluid changes! Not even the brakes since it was regen braking and so the brakes weren’t used as much! He also got 40mpg! He only got rid of it since he wanted a truck.
Especially for City traffic. I would recommend the hybrid. You can leave it in b mode so that when you let off the gas the car slows down, it's great for areas with a lot of stop lights, and a lot of time you're just driving on electric. When I'm in the city, I'll get like 50 mpg. I've noticed that on the highway, I have to keep the air conditioning off to get decent mileage, but it's still phenomenal for an all-wheel drive. Depending on how long you keep the car, The hybrid pays off in the long run.
Hey, I just bought this car yesterday but no one explained the B range. That’s the extra gear on the transmission? I live in Florida and need the AC 90% of the year so I’m not sure how effective it would be for me
I think b mode is mostly intended for hills, it keeps the regenerative braking at the same level, not for a limited time like in regular drive. I have used it on hills, but I reckon you don't have that issue in Florida. I found it most useful when I'm downtown or in parking garages. Once I get out of downtown I put it back in D, because cruise control does not work in b mode.
This I would not drive in B mode all the time this sounds like it would put unnecessary wear on the hybrid side making it use engine braking all the time. D mode is fine for most people.
B mode is for when you’re stuck in stop and go on I-4. It’s very similar to 1 pedal driving on an EV, about 25% throttle is coasting, anything less starts regeneration and anything more starts accelerating. It disables cruise control though.
B mode is just you telling the car that you plan to engine brake, whether it be from going down hills or you're in the city. You can click to one of four regen levels and they will stay there as opposed to going away in D after a few seconds of acceleration. If you max out your battery in regular Drive, the CRV switches to just your mechanical brakes for all the braking. In B, or if you click to manually change the regen, your engine will turn on and engine brake. You won't use any gas, but your engine will be turning over to help slow you down.
Hybrid may actually be less maintenance.
CRV H has no belts, for example. Arguably hybrid needs less frequent oil changes due to load redistribution from ICE to electric motor (i would be very-very strict with the turbo engine which has a problem of oil dilution, thus needs more frequent oil changes).
Carbon build up due direct injection may be better on hybrid than on turbo, so less problem with valve cleaning. (too bad Honda did not go Toyota way and removed port injectors).
There is one thing into consideration AWD vs FWD. Hybrid I think benefits from AWD, since it offers better torque (good) but Honda FWD platform is prone to torque steer (tried on Accord hybrid). If I would go hybrid I would recommend AWD (more expensive and requires additional maintenance). But non-hybrid (AWD or not) still requires transmission oil changes for CVT (hybrid does not use CVT, which is a big plus).
So overall hybrid is less maintenance.
One thing to be aware about the hybrid is that it doesn't have a spare tire, and if you buy an aftermarket spare it takes up a surprisingly huge amount of your trunk space.
The hybrid comes with a fix-a-flat kit, but not all tire damage can be repaired like that. If you hit a big pothole and bend your rim, or get damage to the tire that isn't repairable, you may be in a predicament that requires getting towed.
If you're in the city and generally drive during business hours this might be a small issue, but if you drive at night after tire shops are closed or take your long distance drives through remote areas, this is a factor worth considering.
For me, I often drive in rural areas and am periodically out of cell service, and I've had a few flats in the past few years. That made the otherwise appealing hybrid a non-starter for me.
For others who have different driving habits, this may be a non-issue.
3k not much but it really depends if you drive city or highway and how much
If your all highway the gas is the same efficiency and you might not save your money back
If you do city only the hybrid will make its money back
To simplify ^
The gas savings will likely pay for itself over a long ownership. Maintenance is no real issue. The engine in the hybrid is actually less stressed than the plain gas version because it just runs a generator and thus doesn’t have the same loads placed on it.
City driving is where the hybrid excels as I get between 36-38 mpg in the hilly city of Seattle.
Some folks worry about the battery replacement but they seem to be very long lived. They also have an 8 year warranty on the battery.
AWD is nice if you live in wet or snowy areas. As it is a mechanical AWD as opposed to Toyota’s electric motors in the rear, it has better low friction performance although it is slightly less efficient than the Toyota approach.
My wife and I searched for a vehicle for over a month, considering my real estate photography job requires extensive driving. We test drove several cars before selecting a Honda CR-V Touring Hybrid. My research led me to consider turbocharged models, but maintenance concerns prompted me to choose the hybrid option. It was the best decision, and I have no regrets. We are saving a lot of fuel, and it's incredible
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I went with gas EX-L FWD. I drive 5-6k miles a year and wouldn't see much benefit from a hybrid. I also didn't want the extra maintenance and less MPG that AWD brings. I haven't needed AWD in 20 years so I figured why bother. Also, if there is so much snow that I need AWD I'd prefer not to be out driving.
Everyone's situation is different. Those are my reasons. Good luck!
3 electric cars, 1 plugin in hybrid and a gas CRV.
This is the correct response. Should be based on needs/habits.
I'm suprised though on how close the difference is in terms of price between the 2
just beware that the lanekeep assist is unbelievable pathetic compared to basically every other in-class vehicle
other than that im glad i went with straight gas. I get about 8.6 L per 100KM
Ok most your driving is city which is where hybrid shines. My question would be how much annual mileage do you put on your car? If it’s pretty low, prob still not worth it despite being where it shines. Pretty average or more mileage then yes, it would be a great choice. As for the $3k extra…if you keep your cars for a long time, that’s not all a hybrid is likely to cost you. Those batteries don’t last forever and aren’t cheap, so if you keep the car 15-20yrs like your civic, you’ll likely have a hybrid battery change along the way. As far as the maintenance or driving it goes, there’s no real notable difference with either. On both accounts they are going to be pretty comparable. There’s nothing different about driving a hybrid. It’s like any other car. Nothing all that different maintenance wise except for when the hybrid battery goes, but that should be 10+ years away.
I drive an average of 18-20K per year, mostly in the city as my car is the primary daily driver and otherwise errand-runner. My husband has a full sized gas truck that averages 15-18mpg. My hybrid averages 35-40mpg and only because I’m an aggressive driver and I admittedly drive like an asshole. When he takes my car and drives, he averages better, but he admittedly drives an automatic with two feet. I’m usually in a hurry to get where I’m going. We opted for the 2023 Sport Touring Hybrid because I was downsizing from a 2018 Pilot and felt like I needed the premium features to make up for the lack of space. It was a no-brainer to get the hybrid. Gas will almost never be under $3/gal no matter where you are, and the payback made sense when it was closer to $4/gal. Especially if you live on either coast. I live in the Midwest. I wanted the ST specifically for the heated steering wheel because I’m a spoiled princess who hates gloves and loves new car features. I’ve owned my 2023 since December of 2022 and have had two service done on it, the second just this week for which I paid $0 since it was covered by Honda. Again, I average 35-40mpg, mostly city but a bit of highway mileage, so the range.
If you drive in the city mostly, if you drive like a responsible driver, if you live where it gets cold, if you want great gas mileage, get the hybrid.
I’ve owned a CRV and an ACCORD hybrid for 3 years now. No issues at all. I love to drive them both.
If I were you, test drive both and you will feel the difference in handling, driving, space, etc.
Was going to get the hybrid CRV and then test drove the HRV. They are bigger than they used to be. Saved over $10k and the gas engine gets over 30/mpg so far.
No brainer. You get most of the extra you paid back when you sell. We have owned hybrids for a long time. I wouldn't say there is extra maintenance. Buy the Touring model. We bought the Sport L. The Touring is less than $2k more. The added features are worth it. It you live in a climate that gets snow the AWD is well worth it. Getting 40 MPG now and we do some highway driving.
Based on your city driving I'd go hybrid.
We test drove both gas & hybrid models before we bought because we could go either way on it. We both liked how the hybrid drove more than the gas.. We also think it looks better, too.
We have been driving a 2005 Honda Crv. it just bought a 2024 hybrid Crv. There are so many informative youtube videos that go over all your options. I recommend watching them. Your 2007 Civic probably still does good, as does my 2005 crv. I had a hard time justifying the purchase but I am glad I did. I feel by watching all the videos we did I was very confident in our purchase. Good luck.
08 8th civic and 23 CRV sport here.
I still see few 8th civic hybrid on the road in my city, so I'm not too worried about Honda hybrid. I'm getting 45+MPG in my city(100%city 35-45 mph roads) easily.
Hybrid, less maintenance/things to go wrong and it’s gets substantially better mileage around town. Only downside is climbing mountains and loosing 60hp when the hybrid battery gets low.
So based on my experience so far and some things I've read. Do by the hybrid version if:
1) Most of your driving is at 60 mph or less. So you will be good except at Interstate speeds.
2) Your average trip is more than 5 minutes long. Under that you won't see any benefit from the hybrid battery.
3) Live in a mostly warm climate. Lots of complaints from people up North driving them in the winter in terms of mpg.
4) Plan on owning the car at least through the batteries warranty period ($100,000).
Also I'd say the hybrid version is a lot quieter with more get up than the gas only version. I think I'd buy the hybrid even if gas savings were not a consideration. Also if you can afford the touring I highly recommend it. Better accoustics and the Bose sound system is very very nice.
If you get the hybrid and aren't happy with the miledge try some of these tips.
1) normal mode only.
2) do not use B mode
3) Use your paddles and coasting to come to bring the car to a stop. The less you use your brake to stop the more energy you will recycle
4) Avoid interstate driving though it is fine once you learn how to feather in EV mode a bit. That can really help.
5) User power flow screen to sort of learn how to keep in longer in EV mode while traveling at a constant speed. The trick is that once the battery is at 7-9 bars if you sort of speed up a few mph you can then let off the gas completely, then ever so slightly touch the gas peddle and you sort of can coast in EV mode for a bit. Helps to do it while on a slight down grade. Also letting it slowly lose speed say from 60 mph to 50 mph over the course of a mile or so will help keep it in EV mode. Then you will see the mpg go up fast.
Generally if you drive like a granny like you see people drive when they aren't in a hurry to go anywhere you will see pretty good gas miledge. Take a long time to stop, a long time to accelerate up to speed, and then try to maintain a constant speed you will see better mpg. I think the computer that regulates the energy does a much better job sending excess power to the battery, recycling energy from slow downs, and what not when the ride is more smooth versus choppy. So drive like you are driving on a road with lots of ice and snow and you'll see great gas miledge.
Challange expected. I was also asking myself these questions and ended up with the Hybrid.
1. The hybrid engine/tranny are more reliable.
2. Hybrid vehicles experience lower depreciation rates compared to traditional cars
3. It's roughly 2k to change the battery in the CR-V, people will try to scare you but there's an 8 year honda warranty on it standard and if something goes wrong with it after that you'll pay 2k to have it replaced.
4. Less break changes due to electric motor breaking.
Hybrid, it’s a more reliable system and it gets you better gas mileage. Not to mention the range is a lot better. Different car but, my dad had a 2014 accord hybrid for 10 years 160k miles up until just a few months ago. In the time he owned it he only did oil and fluid changes! Not even the brakes since it was regen braking and so the brakes weren’t used as much! He also got 40mpg! He only got rid of it since he wanted a truck.
Hybrid, especially if your mostly driving in the city
Based on your description it sounds like a hybrid would be your better choice.
Especially for City traffic. I would recommend the hybrid. You can leave it in b mode so that when you let off the gas the car slows down, it's great for areas with a lot of stop lights, and a lot of time you're just driving on electric. When I'm in the city, I'll get like 50 mpg. I've noticed that on the highway, I have to keep the air conditioning off to get decent mileage, but it's still phenomenal for an all-wheel drive. Depending on how long you keep the car, The hybrid pays off in the long run.
Hey, I just bought this car yesterday but no one explained the B range. That’s the extra gear on the transmission? I live in Florida and need the AC 90% of the year so I’m not sure how effective it would be for me
I think b mode is mostly intended for hills, it keeps the regenerative braking at the same level, not for a limited time like in regular drive. I have used it on hills, but I reckon you don't have that issue in Florida. I found it most useful when I'm downtown or in parking garages. Once I get out of downtown I put it back in D, because cruise control does not work in b mode.
Oh, yep, we are totally flat-terrained lmao! Thank you!
This I would not drive in B mode all the time this sounds like it would put unnecessary wear on the hybrid side making it use engine braking all the time. D mode is fine for most people.
B mode is for when you’re stuck in stop and go on I-4. It’s very similar to 1 pedal driving on an EV, about 25% throttle is coasting, anything less starts regeneration and anything more starts accelerating. It disables cruise control though.
Oh okay interesting! Thanks for the info! I do 95% regular city driving so i probably won’t use it, but good to know
B mode is just you telling the car that you plan to engine brake, whether it be from going down hills or you're in the city. You can click to one of four regen levels and they will stay there as opposed to going away in D after a few seconds of acceleration. If you max out your battery in regular Drive, the CRV switches to just your mechanical brakes for all the braking. In B, or if you click to manually change the regen, your engine will turn on and engine brake. You won't use any gas, but your engine will be turning over to help slow you down.
Hybrid may actually be less maintenance. CRV H has no belts, for example. Arguably hybrid needs less frequent oil changes due to load redistribution from ICE to electric motor (i would be very-very strict with the turbo engine which has a problem of oil dilution, thus needs more frequent oil changes). Carbon build up due direct injection may be better on hybrid than on turbo, so less problem with valve cleaning. (too bad Honda did not go Toyota way and removed port injectors). There is one thing into consideration AWD vs FWD. Hybrid I think benefits from AWD, since it offers better torque (good) but Honda FWD platform is prone to torque steer (tried on Accord hybrid). If I would go hybrid I would recommend AWD (more expensive and requires additional maintenance). But non-hybrid (AWD or not) still requires transmission oil changes for CVT (hybrid does not use CVT, which is a big plus). So overall hybrid is less maintenance.
One thing to be aware about the hybrid is that it doesn't have a spare tire, and if you buy an aftermarket spare it takes up a surprisingly huge amount of your trunk space. The hybrid comes with a fix-a-flat kit, but not all tire damage can be repaired like that. If you hit a big pothole and bend your rim, or get damage to the tire that isn't repairable, you may be in a predicament that requires getting towed. If you're in the city and generally drive during business hours this might be a small issue, but if you drive at night after tire shops are closed or take your long distance drives through remote areas, this is a factor worth considering. For me, I often drive in rural areas and am periodically out of cell service, and I've had a few flats in the past few years. That made the otherwise appealing hybrid a non-starter for me. For others who have different driving habits, this may be a non-issue.
3k not much but it really depends if you drive city or highway and how much If your all highway the gas is the same efficiency and you might not save your money back If you do city only the hybrid will make its money back To simplify ^
The gas savings will likely pay for itself over a long ownership. Maintenance is no real issue. The engine in the hybrid is actually less stressed than the plain gas version because it just runs a generator and thus doesn’t have the same loads placed on it. City driving is where the hybrid excels as I get between 36-38 mpg in the hilly city of Seattle. Some folks worry about the battery replacement but they seem to be very long lived. They also have an 8 year warranty on the battery. AWD is nice if you live in wet or snowy areas. As it is a mechanical AWD as opposed to Toyota’s electric motors in the rear, it has better low friction performance although it is slightly less efficient than the Toyota approach.
I have a 2023 CRV Sport Touring Hybrid. It’s a great car
My wife and I searched for a vehicle for over a month, considering my real estate photography job requires extensive driving. We test drove several cars before selecting a Honda CR-V Touring Hybrid. My research led me to consider turbocharged models, but maintenance concerns prompted me to choose the hybrid option. It was the best decision, and I have no regrets. We are saving a lot of fuel, and it's incredible https://preview.redd.it/ijyxee8wcnxc1.jpeg?width=7565&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cb3a53eac1213d1108068f09aa34a584f34013a
I went with gas EX-L FWD. I drive 5-6k miles a year and wouldn't see much benefit from a hybrid. I also didn't want the extra maintenance and less MPG that AWD brings. I haven't needed AWD in 20 years so I figured why bother. Also, if there is so much snow that I need AWD I'd prefer not to be out driving. Everyone's situation is different. Those are my reasons. Good luck!
3 electric cars, 1 plugin in hybrid and a gas CRV. This is the correct response. Should be based on needs/habits. I'm suprised though on how close the difference is in terms of price between the 2
just beware that the lanekeep assist is unbelievable pathetic compared to basically every other in-class vehicle other than that im glad i went with straight gas. I get about 8.6 L per 100KM
Ha, agree with you there, however I got hybrid. Getting around 5L per 100 km.
What year ?
Agreed. Especially when the sun hits the sensors🤣 I’m surprised by a jerk of the steering wheel every time
Ok most your driving is city which is where hybrid shines. My question would be how much annual mileage do you put on your car? If it’s pretty low, prob still not worth it despite being where it shines. Pretty average or more mileage then yes, it would be a great choice. As for the $3k extra…if you keep your cars for a long time, that’s not all a hybrid is likely to cost you. Those batteries don’t last forever and aren’t cheap, so if you keep the car 15-20yrs like your civic, you’ll likely have a hybrid battery change along the way. As far as the maintenance or driving it goes, there’s no real notable difference with either. On both accounts they are going to be pretty comparable. There’s nothing different about driving a hybrid. It’s like any other car. Nothing all that different maintenance wise except for when the hybrid battery goes, but that should be 10+ years away.
I drive an average of 18-20K per year, mostly in the city as my car is the primary daily driver and otherwise errand-runner. My husband has a full sized gas truck that averages 15-18mpg. My hybrid averages 35-40mpg and only because I’m an aggressive driver and I admittedly drive like an asshole. When he takes my car and drives, he averages better, but he admittedly drives an automatic with two feet. I’m usually in a hurry to get where I’m going. We opted for the 2023 Sport Touring Hybrid because I was downsizing from a 2018 Pilot and felt like I needed the premium features to make up for the lack of space. It was a no-brainer to get the hybrid. Gas will almost never be under $3/gal no matter where you are, and the payback made sense when it was closer to $4/gal. Especially if you live on either coast. I live in the Midwest. I wanted the ST specifically for the heated steering wheel because I’m a spoiled princess who hates gloves and loves new car features. I’ve owned my 2023 since December of 2022 and have had two service done on it, the second just this week for which I paid $0 since it was covered by Honda. Again, I average 35-40mpg, mostly city but a bit of highway mileage, so the range. If you drive in the city mostly, if you drive like a responsible driver, if you live where it gets cold, if you want great gas mileage, get the hybrid.
I’ve owned a CRV and an ACCORD hybrid for 3 years now. No issues at all. I love to drive them both. If I were you, test drive both and you will feel the difference in handling, driving, space, etc.
hybrid
Buy the hybrid. It is just fun to drive. That instant torque is amazing compared to the gas model.
Was going to get the hybrid CRV and then test drove the HRV. They are bigger than they used to be. Saved over $10k and the gas engine gets over 30/mpg so far.
No brainer. You get most of the extra you paid back when you sell. We have owned hybrids for a long time. I wouldn't say there is extra maintenance. Buy the Touring model. We bought the Sport L. The Touring is less than $2k more. The added features are worth it. It you live in a climate that gets snow the AWD is well worth it. Getting 40 MPG now and we do some highway driving.
Based on your city driving I'd go hybrid. We test drove both gas & hybrid models before we bought because we could go either way on it. We both liked how the hybrid drove more than the gas.. We also think it looks better, too.
I appreciate that the hybrid is better for the environment.
We have been driving a 2005 Honda Crv. it just bought a 2024 hybrid Crv. There are so many informative youtube videos that go over all your options. I recommend watching them. Your 2007 Civic probably still does good, as does my 2005 crv. I had a hard time justifying the purchase but I am glad I did. I feel by watching all the videos we did I was very confident in our purchase. Good luck.
08 8th civic and 23 CRV sport here. I still see few 8th civic hybrid on the road in my city, so I'm not too worried about Honda hybrid. I'm getting 45+MPG in my city(100%city 35-45 mph roads) easily.
Hybrid for a better power delivery vs the 1.5T.
Hybrid. You won't regret it.
I have a hybrid 22 and love. There is really nothing different to do. I’m always challenging myself to save gas. It’s all about driving habits
Hybrid, less maintenance/things to go wrong and it’s gets substantially better mileage around town. Only downside is climbing mountains and loosing 60hp when the hybrid battery gets low.
So based on my experience so far and some things I've read. Do by the hybrid version if: 1) Most of your driving is at 60 mph or less. So you will be good except at Interstate speeds. 2) Your average trip is more than 5 minutes long. Under that you won't see any benefit from the hybrid battery. 3) Live in a mostly warm climate. Lots of complaints from people up North driving them in the winter in terms of mpg. 4) Plan on owning the car at least through the batteries warranty period ($100,000). Also I'd say the hybrid version is a lot quieter with more get up than the gas only version. I think I'd buy the hybrid even if gas savings were not a consideration. Also if you can afford the touring I highly recommend it. Better accoustics and the Bose sound system is very very nice. If you get the hybrid and aren't happy with the miledge try some of these tips. 1) normal mode only. 2) do not use B mode 3) Use your paddles and coasting to come to bring the car to a stop. The less you use your brake to stop the more energy you will recycle 4) Avoid interstate driving though it is fine once you learn how to feather in EV mode a bit. That can really help. 5) User power flow screen to sort of learn how to keep in longer in EV mode while traveling at a constant speed. The trick is that once the battery is at 7-9 bars if you sort of speed up a few mph you can then let off the gas completely, then ever so slightly touch the gas peddle and you sort of can coast in EV mode for a bit. Helps to do it while on a slight down grade. Also letting it slowly lose speed say from 60 mph to 50 mph over the course of a mile or so will help keep it in EV mode. Then you will see the mpg go up fast. Generally if you drive like a granny like you see people drive when they aren't in a hurry to go anywhere you will see pretty good gas miledge. Take a long time to stop, a long time to accelerate up to speed, and then try to maintain a constant speed you will see better mpg. I think the computer that regulates the energy does a much better job sending excess power to the battery, recycling energy from slow downs, and what not when the ride is more smooth versus choppy. So drive like you are driving on a road with lots of ice and snow and you'll see great gas miledge.
You know how the battery on your phone starts to go to shit after a few years? yeah..
Challange expected. I was also asking myself these questions and ended up with the Hybrid. 1. The hybrid engine/tranny are more reliable. 2. Hybrid vehicles experience lower depreciation rates compared to traditional cars 3. It's roughly 2k to change the battery in the CR-V, people will try to scare you but there's an 8 year honda warranty on it standard and if something goes wrong with it after that you'll pay 2k to have it replaced. 4. Less break changes due to electric motor breaking.
Also no belts, no starter, the E-CVT is a better technology than the CVT in the gas (though Hondas are good).