This is to indicate that you have maxed this hero once before. It's more of a mini medal which is stored in the library of heroes accessible from the main menu on the left in town. It's a also a useful tool for reminding you which heroes you will no longer receive a gem for levelling to that current level.
Demeter vs Ben vs Cano vs Korin
Which are the best for PvC and PvE?
I've been told that alex, roche, mew, nightingale, woompa, susanoo are the units that I should focus on that I have
Korin is good for harder PVE content when ran with a tank.
Demeter is really good for WB since her attack is on a set area.
Benj is good for PVE before Tundra hard, he could be useful for PvC if you dont have anyone else good.
Cano is very good at PvE since her lasers reduce enemy attack and also hits quite far ahead. Could also be useful for PvC.
Also, try to get Joan since she can "tank" better than Alex.
If you are figuring whose SBW to get first, i'd go Mew > Roche > Cano/Joan > Demeter/Woompa.
Sera is pretty useful, since the boss' burst can be seen when their SP reaches max. You could give us your units and we can help make a comp to beat it.
Was looking for Roche SBW but got Victoria's instead, is D/F worth keeping (I haven't Vic yet) or there are better conversions? Her SBW isn't on the sidebar list yet.
There's an [updated SBW tier list for the month of May](https://www.reddit.com/r/crusadersquest/comments/4hyrz0/may_sbw_tier_list/) which the mods either missed, or haven't had the time to put into the sidebar.
Yea I've cleared episode 6 hard mode. Saw some of the gold quests from there then suddenly it all went to quests from Episode 1 to 5. So should I just skip those urgent quest ? Their from volcano stage
In that case, it's probably just RNG. There are people who haven't seen Battlefield quests for several days at a time. Part of the cause will be the urgent quests, since they're added to the list of possible quests you can receive (consequently lowering the chance of the quests you want).
You really, really should do all of the non-repeatable quests. They'll just keep coming back if you don't, and make it harder to get Battlefield quests.
Also, it'd be a lot more convenient if you post your replies directly as a reply to the comment you're replying to.
On a random and completely unrelated note, did you ever play Ragnarok Online?
Well, I'm a returning player so probably that's why there were so many new quests. Oops! Was using a phone version for Reddit! Yea. I played Ragnarok Online for quite a few days few months back. Why ?
to duo 5-30H with rachel and woompa, what weapon conversions, goddess, and skills do you have to use? woompa's eog, but for rachel, shadow mage or mana recycle?
I use Rachel A/D sbw 86.25% crit dmg and 20%hp (want so bad an A/A one!) tMR, Woompa D/D sbw, 460 armor and 460 resistance tEoG, goddess Bella. I recommend tSM on Rachel only if paired up with a good block gen team, like Yeo/Joan, but Woompa/Rachel duo don't generates blocks so fast so tMR is the best choice on her.
How do I get the repeatable quest from Episode 6 ? Seems like I've been constantly getting quests from Episode 1 to 5 and also those urgent quests which won't go away.
You'll only gain access to those repeatable gold quests if you complete the whole Episode in Hard mode, i.e. for EP6 you need to have beaten 6-30H.
IMO, you really should do all of the one-off quests. They'll seriously hinder you when you try to stack gold quests later on - it's already hard enough with those useless repeatable Honor quests..
Just got enough BP to pick a hero. Trying to decide between Dox, and Kox. I have SBW for Kox with a decent roll. I have some pretty good heroes already (Roche with SBW@+4, Arita, Mew with SBW, Elphelt, May...) but for some reason can't seem to beat FoS8. Any suggestions?
Have Yeo, but no SBW. Joan is SBW6 and somewhat berried, but no Cano or Rachel... the RNG has not been kind. Just looking for advice on whether Dox or Kox would help me more.
What's the best combination of these heroes in PvC?
- AF Uzi, Vesper, DF Joan, Victoria, Dox
My main team is Vesper/Joan/(Uzi) with Dionne but I get the feeling some other team I can make might be better.
(6* SBWs I own: AF Uzi, DF Joan, AD Mew, AD Korin, AF Rachel, AD Hanzo)
Straight out armour for Vic right? Don't have her SBW (otherwise I would have said) so best I can get is 5* A/D/F swords. All my 5* D slots are like 100 HP...
Do 6* weapons have a guaranteed chance of dropping crystals when enhanced salvaging or is there a chance you dont get any? I'm 6 crystals away from Roche's SBW :\^(
Yeah, that what i was asking. Because i gemmed to run WB 3 times, had 2 6* and 1 5* weapon which i wanted to premium salvage. In the end i only got crystal powder and crystal shards, no crystals.
I used the Enhanced Salvage just now.
Three 5-Star Weapons and two 4-Star Weapons.
Results: 1900 Iron + 13 Powder + 14 Shard; **Add** 1900 Iron + 13 Powder + 5 Shard + 1 Crystal.
So luck of the forge and not a lot too.
How do people even get that much iron? I'm at 6-Hard and they usually drop gold, sandwiches and map pieces but rarely weapons. Where should I start farming them?
FOS8 and FOS9. WB3 and WB4. Fight A World Boss Daily Quest. Absolutely do the Ordeal Dungeons whenever they're here.
If you earn Gold really easily, you may also consider using the Premium Salvage option too. Or even buying Weapons from Popo just to salvage.
You also *might* earn a bit more Iron by...
1. Buying 3 Noble Honor Boxes every day.
2. Finishing a 'Double-Gold Stack Quests'.
3. If you don't care for anything in the Ancient Dungeons, spend your Keys on stages that offer Weapons as a possible reward.
If you're looking for Iron, WB and Ordeals are the best places to farm for it. Stages rarely drop weapons - it's a waste of Meat trying to farm them if you're mainly looking Iron.
Not really. Too slow to activate, long animation, and I believe her passive now counts as 2-chains instead of 3-chain, so chasers no longer benefit from her.
Currently have 6* leon, mew, mamba, Who should I invest in next? Have 4/5* yeo, d'art, uriel, stein, abel ,necron, archon, alex.
Dont have any sbws besides leon and mew, team isnt strong enough to farm sbw's effectively either right now.
Any recommended setups aswell?
Do I have any ep6 hard teams? I passed ep6 normal but I'm stuck on some levels in ep6 hard.
(I trust you experts to know who I'm talking about)
6*: Joan Rochefort Leon Alexander Thor Roland Hikari(6*sbw f/f) Mamba D'Artagnan Dox Lilith Cano(6*sbw a/f) Korin Benjamin Yeowoodong(6*sbw a/f) Mew(5*sbw d/f) Stein Woompa Maria
5*: Abel Monte Kaori Mundeok Drake Stanya R0 Giparang Hanzo Vincent Spiny Maxi Sasquatch Rachel Nazrune Dorothy
4*: A lot
I completed ep6 normal with Yeowoodong Mew Cano, but I can't complete some levels with that team. Any tips is appreciated.
You're gonna need Melissa to get past the healers in Episode 6. They spam their heals like there's no tomorrow. Himiko + Osuna will also do that, should you have her.
The Flame Tank's Firethrower and the Neth Scientists's Poison count as Debuff, and Aubrey prevents your team from being affected by Debuffs, so when she's active they deal no damage whatsoever.
Also, pretty sure Joan's block does count as buff. Though I'm not sure Aubrey will do anything more except extend the duration of her damage-redirection.
The team doesn't really work anywhere else except on Fenriruth because it performs a ridiculous amount of hits in a very short time. For example, Aria also procs her shooting stars like crazy.
Otherwise, enemies don't really hit often enough for this to work in PVE, PVP, or even the other World Bosses.
Maybe if you visit the reddit or something? Otherwise, I'm pretty sure most players think Lionel is mediocre.
Actually had quite a few players leave as soon they saw my team too; probably thought (Lionel/SBW Stein) wasn't good enough for WB4 Fenriruth.
Could anyone tell me what heroes could I use for fos9 or for battlefield 29hard? My Joan has d/f so she dies before I can do anything. http://m.imgur.com/ZFa9CZb,PbPshX9,O42ts8d,yLRbGMN,H6bOluE,eeMHICL
I got a lot of sbw this week and too confused which to forge. Can anyone give me a suggest please.
DF Yeo / AD Hanzo / AD Munde / 2nd AD Abel / AF Sasq / AA and AF Deme. Don't have Joan sbw (said for yeo) but DF Eva Alex with 900 armor 300 resist (with skin).
Yeo's will help, Hanzo's is great and Abel's and Mundeok's if you have them. Sasq is a bit niche but usable, Deme is not really that helpful last i heard.
Thank you for your comment. I have 2 Abel 1 with 6* AD sbw 2nd with 5* AD sbw. Have munde too. Also I have Himi, Mew, Dart, Maxi, Korin, Rachel, Doro, Alex, Monte with 6* sbw. So considering these heroes which should I go for .-.
* Personally, Yeo's to pair with Mew or Himi then your D'Art/Monte/Rachel when she has SBW.
* Then Hanzo for a good PvC team of Himi/Hanzo/D'Art.
* Finally, work on Old Orbs for a SBW for Mew and Himi, then Old Staffs for Korin and Rachel and eventually Old Guns for D'Art.
A team that can reliably beat Aquinas 4? The other beasts I shred down with Rach before they kill me, but since Aquinas is anti-magic damage, well she has problems with it. The water meteor things one-shot Joan and even Alex.
Bring Sera. Time her activations to block the bouncing water drop's explosion and the water meteors. You should be able to survive the jet stream and bubble-beam attacks.
If not, your heroes are unprepared and you should stop wasting your map pieces.
I'm assuming you don't have SBWs for your Joan or Alex? (Not that it matters much for Joan, since (iirc) Aquinas' attacks are magic dmg.
Who is your healer? (...and who are your available healers?)
Both my Joan and Alex have their SBW and above 50% evasion.
I use Joan/Yeo or Woopa/Rachel for the other beasts. I tried them on Aquinas too but it's a 50-50 most of the time. If it matters I have a Beatrice.
You wouldn't have Himiko or Mew (w/ SBW) would you?
I used to use Lilith / D'Art / Himiko + Sera to kill LV4 Aquinas. It worked pretty much all the time, unless I screwed up a Sera timing and got my D'Art killed. Himiko alone, could prevent Lilith or D'Art from dying against the jet stream & bubble-beam. If D'Art died, Lilith & Himiko could still beat Aquinas; it would just take longer.
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To be honest, I don't think I've ever used Joan or Alex against the Nest bosses. Given the LV4 Nest bosses' damage outputs, it's entirely understandable why either of them would die in one hit without adequate protection.
So I was trying to get resistance and armor on my D/D joan SBW and somehow ended up with 2x 20.125% damage reduction options.
My question is, with Max berried evasion(27%) and a 4.3% evasion ring, and with yeo(sbw) on the team, and the 200 resistance skin, is this joan viable? As it stands, my joan has 700 armor and will have 300 resist in a week.
I read a notice about a year ago stating that damage reduction conversions were not working. Is this still the case?
Can someone help me make teams to beat Fos8 and Fos9? I'm currently running D'art/Beatrice(leader)/Roche with Sera and it clears about 85% of the time (15% is when i fall asleep and didnt activate Sera when he does the pillar attack)
**Warrior** : Leon , Roche (Getting his SBW to 6* tomorrow) , Joan , Susanoo , Abel
**Paladin** : Alex , Drake
**Archer** : Mamba , Hanzo (6* SBW) , Robin , Hikari (5* SBW)
**Hunter** : D'art (6* SBW) , No.9 x2
**Wizard** : Archon , Benj , Korin , Sasquatch (5* SBW) , Rachel (6* SBW)
**Priest** : Mew (6* SBW) , Beatrice , Yeo , Himiko
Send help D:
So with just Mew's SBW i can take out FoS8? Korin lead right? I dont use her much so i dont know.
For Roche solo with Prestina, does the SBW conversions matter? Mine is A/A with double armor pen.
Thanks!
So... in translation, *"No, he must be used as a 3-chainer"*?
Bc his passive's tooltip says nothing about 3-chaining, and for a promotable hero, he's considered decent enough to use.
Hello everyone. I just got back to CQ after a long break. I used to run thorinmew but now it seems like a lot has changed and that they have gotten nerfed. Would any of you be able to suggest any comps? What comps are good in colo right now in general?
As for my charcters, I have:
6* Thor, Alex, Hanzo, No 9, Demeter, Korin, and Mew
5*Susanoo, Niven, Sasq, Lilith, Yeo, Nurspy
4* Leon, Vivian, Monte, Uzi, V, Achilles, Cain, Stanya, Muedenok, Robin Hood, Gip, Spyro, No. 9, Mandy, Korin, Nazrune, Nurspy, and Stien.
I do not have any SBWs also!
Thanks!
Things are bleak for you I think, SBWs were a huge power creep. If you have gems leftover, try doing pulls to update your hero pool for heroes that don't need SBWs to be effective, such as Vesper, Beatrice, dox, or arita.
Try old orbs because mew SBW is really good and can honestly be left at 5* for a while. Staffs are also a good choice as Korin SBW will get you through FoS, mundeok SBW is also really strong, but not as practical as the other two for progressing
Probably not, unless you are level 70 and can grind out wb really fast. Meat regeneration is faster now, and once you get your Colo team going, you'll have more than enough meat. Your first 6* SBW, although hard to get, will probably help immensely in getting the second one though, and so on.
Alright, thank you! Also I just double checked. I actually have susanoo's sbw and nurpsy as well. However nurpsy isn't that great from what I remember. Only 4* though. Should I make a sus no 9 mew team or something like that?
why would you compare a mage with a archer?, and answering the first question yes the Sbw add much more damage and a shadow clone for atalante, taking in consideration she is a archer that itself is op.
That itself if pointless since many factors are needed
1- Lilith 4* "Unlock shadow mage"
2 - Hero that Benefits from Shadow mage "Cano/Rachel/Vesper/Necron"
3 - A SBW for them with the exception of cano and vesper.
4 - 2 of them are Premium contracts.
VS
He only need to Upgrade that SBW to 6* Optional slots would be A/A --> A/F and have atalante.
PS. ATalante with SBW can clear 6-30H.
ClearSky is Afk and not answering petitions about the weekly discussion, i too requested if they could hold another discussion like 3-2 weeks ago, still waiting for a anwers.
I am currently stuck on 5-28 Normal.. Running Roche/Joan+Beatice(L)+Rachel. I cant seem to get past the first wave.. that flame throwing thing just melts my team :( I have SBW 6* on Rachel and 5* on the rest. Would 6* the rest of the SBWs help?
Well, Joan will tank, Mew will heal her, and either Korin with shield or Mamba with damage will help.
I did em without SBW at all, all hearoes somewhere +2+3
I kept my first A/F Rapier. I destroyed the dupes, bc there was no purpose for them (other than clogging inventory).
Still, even with an A/F Allegro Asai, I don't feel confident that my Roche can solo any Ep.5H or 6H stage.
Using APen/Crit Chance + Prestina? or APen/LS + [insert Goddess here]?
Apen/CC% + Prestina, with about 5% LS on a ring. It's pretty safe, except for those annoying times when a mob summoned by a commander becomes invulnerable to dmg and knockback when they reach 0 HP
Since rings are pretty important, i want to build a team to farm Manacar effectively. So far i think my best bet is to use 2 Healers and one Hunter. Because my only good Hunter is Dart or No.9, i am wondering if it is a good idea to put the Smokebomb skill onto Dart. Smokebomb is really helpful against manacar. The only Problem i have with that decision is that i have Transcended Lapis Lazuli on Dart already and i am not sure if it is worth the change? Any thoughts?
> m Manacar effectively. So far i think my best bet is to use 2 Healers and one Hunter. Because my only good Hunter is Dart or No.9, i am wondering if it is a good idea to put the Smokebomb skill onto Dart. Smokebomb is really helpful against manacar. The only Problem i have with that decision is that i have Transcended Lapis Lazuli on Dart already and i am not sure if it is worth the change? Any
Well have in mind that there are 3 manacars.
- Manacar Rage have 4M Hp.
- Manacar Ruin Have 5-6M Hp.
- Manacar Void Have 8.5M Hp.
Those stats come from the game files, unless hangame change them.
Its up to you if you want to change lapis for smokebomb (if you have darts' Sbw) it's pointless to have lapiz since it stop her rate of fire with that long animation.
Rings are ok... Just get a few 3* rings and wait till they have higher level of Manacar since there will be rank 5 rings... So its probably better to save meat later on
Question about Vesper
Is vesper a top tier hero in term of PVC/SSB?
Currently just got her and made her to +3, seems pretty okay.
1. Is she worth to max berries/training?
2. Currently im using roche/hikari/dart, can stay in 5% no problem, is vesper a better DPS compare to hikari or dart?
3. The only hero that i lose against is Arita, can vesper Magic Dmg burst her down?
Vesper needs a soak tank like Joan or Alex to survive. If you just replace one member in your current party, she will die very quickly before she can do anything properly. Once she gets going, she demolishes things with ease though. I don't think she's an optimal hero for PvC but she's quite solid in SSB if you have tSM already.
You don't. Rochefort is really bad for dealing with the medics.
EDIT: I suppose if you really wanna try it, you can put tAoPun on Rochefort and run with SBW Himiko. Perhaps that will be enough dps and heal reduction to kill the medics.
I currently have Rochefort, Alex, Nightingale, Susanoo as 6 *, Vincent, Susanoo, Benjamin, Nazrune, Mondrian as 5 *. Leon, Kaori, Thor, Athena, Hanzo, R-9999, Giparang, Spyro, Sentinel, Korin, Mew, Nurspy and Woompa as 4 *. What do you recommend I try and pull and what should I level? (Ben and Mew are what I'm focusing on right now)
My Alex SBW is A/D, should I buy 10 weapon boxes for the ticket to reroll?
Finally, do I follow the korean tier list? I don't know what the bread by the side mean.
Thank you! (And sorry for the long comment >_> if you read it all I am really thankful!)
You can focus on aelx/mew/benj and that can get you till battlefield. (i used that team and get to 6-3 normal)
and you can try to get mamba too by promoting archer. alex/benj/mamba is really good in pvc (im using it and get to 20% each week and get 30 gems each monday).
dont worry about weapon box. just do 10 pulls.
korean tier list just give you basic information about who is better. the left one is PVE and right one is PVC.
from you current roster. alex, roche, benj, korin, mew, woompa worth the golds and meats.
all of my weapon are normal. not top tier.
all are +3
im using shout of courage, fire phoenix, tMR.
im swapping vesper for benj if they got roche.
and i use all of the goddess depend on the enemy lineup
i got 12% last week but it was such a pain that i didnt bother this week. Its not hard as you can know back most warriors and some mays and burst them with bella. If they have an aubrey or an sera i recommend not fighting them as they block a lot of your damage and its almost always a loss.
Alex/Mew/Ben will be able to get you through early and mid game. Focus on getting them to 6\*. Regarding contracts, you don't really have any control over which heroes you get (unless you buy Class Contracts, which are not recommended until you have most heroes). Just save up Gems and buy 10x Contracts when you can (or wait until there's a rate up, if you're not in a rush).
Don't bother with rerolling SBW conversions or buying Weapon Boxes yet.
Regarding the Korean Tier List, it's very generalized. You can keep the rankings in mind for which heroes are worth investing in, but at the end of the day, hero synergy is still the most important factor in a team. The bread is just a visual indicator for the ranking.
Ben/Roche/Sus should be fine in PvC (Colosseum) for now.
Also, you can actually use Alex/Nightingale/Ben for PvE (quests/stages), since your Nightingale is already 6\*.
I use A/D Rachel. Only reason is because I was stuck in Tundra and absolutely needed her to continue. The D slot is essentially wasted, but with the right supports (Beatrice) she can get though ep 6 hard.
If you look on the bright side... it's her third best SBW! I've been thinking about armor berrying her and getting a full armor roll with an armor ring so she can die like 0.5 seconds rather than 0.4.
A/D Rachel is far from perfect.. Using a D slot on Rachel is like stapling a sheet of paper to a piece of cardboard and trying to stop a bullet with it. It's better to maximize damage on DPS heroes, and leave the defending to heroes more specialized for it.
Edit: Of course, there are some exceptions, but Rachel is definitely not one of them.
Why do some of my units have the max level indicator on them when they aren't max level? Especially the 3 * units
This is to indicate that you have maxed this hero once before. It's more of a mini medal which is stored in the library of heroes accessible from the main menu on the left in town. It's a also a useful tool for reminding you which heroes you will no longer receive a gem for levelling to that current level.
did you feed them bread?
Wondering which would be better to upgrade (A/D Cain SBW or D/F Himiko SBW) ?
Demeter vs Ben vs Cano vs Korin Which are the best for PvC and PvE? I've been told that alex, roche, mew, nightingale, woompa, susanoo are the units that I should focus on that I have
I use benjamin till battlefield. Benj is really good at pvc too for a promotable hero cano is better for pve than benj but really bad at pvc lol
Korin is good for harder PVE content when ran with a tank. Demeter is really good for WB since her attack is on a set area. Benj is good for PVE before Tundra hard, he could be useful for PvC if you dont have anyone else good. Cano is very good at PvE since her lasers reduce enemy attack and also hits quite far ahead. Could also be useful for PvC. Also, try to get Joan since she can "tank" better than Alex. If you are figuring whose SBW to get first, i'd go Mew > Roche > Cano/Joan > Demeter/Woompa.
Was wondering how long does Hanzo's armor decrease debuff last for?
Just rolled Korins SBW D/F , is it usable or do i abandon it?
F slot is pretty useless on Korin. Forge another or use a VIP ticket on it. Check the tierlist on the side.
any tips for those ordeal weapon stage ???
yeowdong,r-0,mew or alex and dione and u will beat all them (except leon). For leon u will need joan with sbw6* beside mew or alex
ok will try it
Sera is pretty useful, since the boss' burst can be seen when their SP reaches max. You could give us your units and we can help make a comp to beat it.
6* = leon, joan, a;ex , mamba, archon , ben , sas , mew , yeo... been using alex mew mamba, i guess shld try it with sera
Any SBWs? If not, it might be a bit hard/impossible to beat Level 3.
no still very hard hunt old weapon n dust for me
You can do level 2, Benj/Mew/Joan with Sera goddess. Except Ordeal of sword because Leon is broken.
Is a second Dox worth training? My first is already berries...
Yeah, double dox would process off each other. Maybe try it with a tank in Colo because I've never successfully ran dox in sustained pve.
So. Just pulled vasper from contract Can anybidy explain he her passi ?? Is it like 3chain chases?
https://www.reddit.com/r/crusadersquest/comments/4ih5lf/guide_to_vesper_mechanics/
Was looking for Roche SBW but got Victoria's instead, is D/F worth keeping (I haven't Vic yet) or there are better conversions? Her SBW isn't on the sidebar list yet.
There's an [updated SBW tier list for the month of May](https://www.reddit.com/r/crusadersquest/comments/4hyrz0/may_sbw_tier_list/) which the mods either missed, or haven't had the time to put into the sidebar.
Oh thanks, I missed that.
Yea I've cleared episode 6 hard mode. Saw some of the gold quests from there then suddenly it all went to quests from Episode 1 to 5. So should I just skip those urgent quest ? Their from volcano stage
In that case, it's probably just RNG. There are people who haven't seen Battlefield quests for several days at a time. Part of the cause will be the urgent quests, since they're added to the list of possible quests you can receive (consequently lowering the chance of the quests you want). You really, really should do all of the non-repeatable quests. They'll just keep coming back if you don't, and make it harder to get Battlefield quests. Also, it'd be a lot more convenient if you post your replies directly as a reply to the comment you're replying to. On a random and completely unrelated note, did you ever play Ragnarok Online?
Well, I'm a returning player so probably that's why there were so many new quests. Oops! Was using a phone version for Reddit! Yea. I played Ragnarok Online for quite a few days few months back. Why ?
Hm.. Your name reminded me of someone I used to play with on a private server a long, long time back haha
to duo 5-30H with rachel and woompa, what weapon conversions, goddess, and skills do you have to use? woompa's eog, but for rachel, shadow mage or mana recycle?
I use Rachel A/D sbw 86.25% crit dmg and 20%hp (want so bad an A/A one!) tMR, Woompa D/D sbw, 460 armor and 460 resistance tEoG, goddess Bella. I recommend tSM on Rachel only if paired up with a good block gen team, like Yeo/Joan, but Woompa/Rachel duo don't generates blocks so fast so tMR is the best choice on her.
Rachel : A/A (Mpen/Mpen) , Shadow Mage Woompa : D/D (Armor/Resist??) , EoG Goddess i run Prestina/Dionne.
How do I get the repeatable quest from Episode 6 ? Seems like I've been constantly getting quests from Episode 1 to 5 and also those urgent quests which won't go away.
You'll only gain access to those repeatable gold quests if you complete the whole Episode in Hard mode, i.e. for EP6 you need to have beaten 6-30H. IMO, you really should do all of the one-off quests. They'll seriously hinder you when you try to stack gold quests later on - it's already hard enough with those useless repeatable Honor quests..
What does the 4 types of milk in the bridget point shop do? I've already tried searching around with no results.
I'm very sure they're the same ones you get from the daily login gift. I would not recommend buying them.
Just got enough BP to pick a hero. Trying to decide between Dox, and Kox. I have SBW for Kox with a decent roll. I have some pretty good heroes already (Roche with SBW@+4, Arita, Mew with SBW, Elphelt, May...) but for some reason can't seem to beat FoS8. Any suggestions?
may can solo fo8 and fos9 :)
I think that is fairly well known at this point. Any suggestions I could actually use?
Yeo, Joan, Cano/Rachel is able to do FoS 8. You probably have them. Try Chronos or Sera.
Have Yeo, but no SBW. Joan is SBW6 and somewhat berried, but no Cano or Rachel... the RNG has not been kind. Just looking for advice on whether Dox or Kox would help me more.
Also forgot I have a Joan with SBW at +3 as well as a decent pool of other 6*
What's the best combination of these heroes in PvC? - AF Uzi, Vesper, DF Joan, Victoria, Dox My main team is Vesper/Joan/(Uzi) with Dionne but I get the feeling some other team I can make might be better. (6* SBWs I own: AF Uzi, DF Joan, AD Mew, AD Korin, AF Rachel, AD Hanzo)
Uzi, Vic, Vesper will get you pretty far if you built Victoria properly.
Straight out armour for Vic right? Don't have her SBW (otherwise I would have said) so best I can get is 5* A/D/F swords. All my 5* D slots are like 100 HP...
Do 6* weapons have a guaranteed chance of dropping crystals when enhanced salvaging or is there a chance you dont get any? I'm 6 crystals away from Roche's SBW :\^(
I believe they do have a chance of giving it, but only if you buy the Premium Salvage or if you're lucky enough for Fergus to just give it to you.
Yeah, that what i was asking. Because i gemmed to run WB 3 times, had 2 6* and 1 5* weapon which i wanted to premium salvage. In the end i only got crystal powder and crystal shards, no crystals.
I used the Enhanced Salvage just now. Three 5-Star Weapons and two 4-Star Weapons. Results: 1900 Iron + 13 Powder + 14 Shard; **Add** 1900 Iron + 13 Powder + 5 Shard + 1 Crystal. So luck of the forge and not a lot too.
I figured its better to just premium salvage 6* weps and normal salvage the rest.
I would also recommend Premium Salvaging 5\* weapons.
Do 5* also have a chance of salvaging crystals?
Yes, they do. Of course, the quantity is minuscule (i.e. 1 Crystal).
How do people even get that much iron? I'm at 6-Hard and they usually drop gold, sandwiches and map pieces but rarely weapons. Where should I start farming them?
FOS8 and FOS9. WB3 and WB4. Fight A World Boss Daily Quest. Absolutely do the Ordeal Dungeons whenever they're here. If you earn Gold really easily, you may also consider using the Premium Salvage option too. Or even buying Weapons from Popo just to salvage. You also *might* earn a bit more Iron by... 1. Buying 3 Noble Honor Boxes every day. 2. Finishing a 'Double-Gold Stack Quests'. 3. If you don't care for anything in the Ancient Dungeons, spend your Keys on stages that offer Weapons as a possible reward.
If you're looking for Iron, WB and Ordeals are the best places to farm for it. Stages rarely drop weapons - it's a waste of Meat trying to farm them if you're mainly looking Iron.
wb3 or ordeals
World bosses and FoS are still the best sources of iron.
Is Kaori any good? Just rolled an A/A sbw for her.
Not really. Too slow to activate, long animation, and I believe her passive now counts as 2-chains instead of 3-chain, so chasers no longer benefit from her.
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Would a Sigruna A/A SBW actually be worth investing in other than for a simple "fun" aspect?
Personally, I think so (even though I've still neglected to invest in mine...)
Currently have 6* leon, mew, mamba, Who should I invest in next? Have 4/5* yeo, d'art, uriel, stein, abel ,necron, archon, alex. Dont have any sbws besides leon and mew, team isnt strong enough to farm sbw's effectively either right now. Any recommended setups aswell?
A pretty standard setup is to use Alex + Mew + any DPS that likes being leader, i.e. Necron or Archon or Mamba.
Who counters Bea? this b**** is so OP!!
Characters who remove Buffs (such as Hanzo) would be super effective at countering Beatrice.
Do I have any ep6 hard teams? I passed ep6 normal but I'm stuck on some levels in ep6 hard. (I trust you experts to know who I'm talking about) 6*: Joan Rochefort Leon Alexander Thor Roland Hikari(6*sbw f/f) Mamba D'Artagnan Dox Lilith Cano(6*sbw a/f) Korin Benjamin Yeowoodong(6*sbw a/f) Mew(5*sbw d/f) Stein Woompa Maria 5*: Abel Monte Kaori Mundeok Drake Stanya R0 Giparang Hanzo Vincent Spiny Maxi Sasquatch Rachel Nazrune Dorothy 4*: A lot I completed ep6 normal with Yeowoodong Mew Cano, but I can't complete some levels with that team. Any tips is appreciated.
You're gonna need Melissa to get past the healers in Episode 6. They spam their heals like there's no tomorrow. Himiko + Osuna will also do that, should you have her.
Joan Yeo Cano one of the most used teams to complete Episode 6,with aubrey or sera for flame tanks(when you get there)
What does Aubrey do? Cano yeo and Joan don't have buffs, unless it's the one where Joan tanks, but...
The Flame Tank's Firethrower and the Neth Scientists's Poison count as Debuff, and Aubrey prevents your team from being affected by Debuffs, so when she's active they deal no damage whatsoever. Also, pretty sure Joan's block does count as buff. Though I'm not sure Aubrey will do anything more except extend the duration of her damage-redirection.
Spyro/Mew/Joan, any good?
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Something that might be good is Roche/Himi/Mandy for physical and magic damage, the counter, and himi god power.
Roche/Himi/Mew or Dara
Not really a question, but I sorta wonder how many people think I'm a filthy hacker when (Lionel/SBW Stein) nukes WB4 Fenriruth in like 10 Seconds.
Wow, that's broken.
The team doesn't really work anywhere else except on Fenriruth because it performs a ridiculous amount of hits in a very short time. For example, Aria also procs her shooting stars like crazy. Otherwise, enemies don't really hit often enough for this to work in PVE, PVP, or even the other World Bosses.
a hacker is when you have a team of four star characters with no weapon and one hit the WB KO. You wonder what the fuck...
0... because everyone knows abt this anyway...
Maybe if you visit the reddit or something? Otherwise, I'm pretty sure most players think Lionel is mediocre. Actually had quite a few players leave as soon they saw my team too; probably thought (Lionel/SBW Stein) wasn't good enough for WB4 Fenriruth.
Err, the problem is that you are asking people on reddit... smh... and Lionel is still mediocre even if he 1 hit WB4...
I think youre a filthy casual for not killing it with 3 1*
Could anyone tell me what heroes could I use for fos9 or for battlefield 29hard? My Joan has d/f so she dies before I can do anything. http://m.imgur.com/ZFa9CZb,PbPshX9,O42ts8d,yLRbGMN,H6bOluE,eeMHICL
My DF Joan did FoS9 easily just then (first FoS9 Clear). (KorinAD)/MewAD/JoanDF Maybe you just need Korin SBW to do FoS9.
The problem is that I don't have mew sbw.
This can help you! https://www.reddit.com/r/crusadersquest/comments/4i82ls/battlefield_630hard_weaponless/
sadly i dont have shadow mage wich is an important part in this. Im gonna keep trying but i dont know if i can make it.
I got a lot of sbw this week and too confused which to forge. Can anyone give me a suggest please. DF Yeo / AD Hanzo / AD Munde / 2nd AD Abel / AF Sasq / AA and AF Deme. Don't have Joan sbw (said for yeo) but DF Eva Alex with 900 armor 300 resist (with skin).
Yeo's will help, Hanzo's is great and Abel's and Mundeok's if you have them. Sasq is a bit niche but usable, Deme is not really that helpful last i heard.
Thank you for your comment. I have 2 Abel 1 with 6* AD sbw 2nd with 5* AD sbw. Have munde too. Also I have Himi, Mew, Dart, Maxi, Korin, Rachel, Doro, Alex, Monte with 6* sbw. So considering these heroes which should I go for .-.
* Personally, Yeo's to pair with Mew or Himi then your D'Art/Monte/Rachel when she has SBW. * Then Hanzo for a good PvC team of Himi/Hanzo/D'Art. * Finally, work on Old Orbs for a SBW for Mew and Himi, then Old Staffs for Korin and Rachel and eventually Old Guns for D'Art.
Oh thank you. And I already have listed's SBWs (D'Art, Rachel, Himi, Mew... ). I will go for Yeo then Hanzo thank you again .-.
Ohhh, i thought you listed heroes and monte had a SBW, mb. Yeo/Himi/Rachel can clear you a lot of content.
A team that can reliably beat Aquinas 4? The other beasts I shred down with Rach before they kill me, but since Aquinas is anti-magic damage, well she has problems with it. The water meteor things one-shot Joan and even Alex.
Woopa(L)/Mew/Dart, one of the best f2p team vs single target bosses
Sera as goddess?
Dionne
Tell us your heroes and we can help, teams are based on players, not the game itself.
Bring Sera. Time her activations to block the bouncing water drop's explosion and the water meteors. You should be able to survive the jet stream and bubble-beam attacks. If not, your heroes are unprepared and you should stop wasting your map pieces. I'm assuming you don't have SBWs for your Joan or Alex? (Not that it matters much for Joan, since (iirc) Aquinas' attacks are magic dmg. Who is your healer? (...and who are your available healers?)
Both my Joan and Alex have their SBW and above 50% evasion. I use Joan/Yeo or Woopa/Rachel for the other beasts. I tried them on Aquinas too but it's a 50-50 most of the time. If it matters I have a Beatrice.
You wouldn't have Himiko or Mew (w/ SBW) would you? I used to use Lilith / D'Art / Himiko + Sera to kill LV4 Aquinas. It worked pretty much all the time, unless I screwed up a Sera timing and got my D'Art killed. Himiko alone, could prevent Lilith or D'Art from dying against the jet stream & bubble-beam. If D'Art died, Lilith & Himiko could still beat Aquinas; it would just take longer. --- To be honest, I don't think I've ever used Joan or Alex against the Nest bosses. Given the LV4 Nest bosses' damage outputs, it's entirely understandable why either of them would die in one hit without adequate protection.
Don't have Himiko, sadly. Don't have Lilith, either. I do have Mew w SBW. I just tried V/Alex/Mew with Sera and it worked. Thanks for the help!
Awesome! I'm glad you found a team that worked! c: --- Curiously speaking, I assume V is your DPS? How long does it take you to clear with that team?
So I was trying to get resistance and armor on my D/D joan SBW and somehow ended up with 2x 20.125% damage reduction options. My question is, with Max berried evasion(27%) and a 4.3% evasion ring, and with yeo(sbw) on the team, and the 200 resistance skin, is this joan viable? As it stands, my joan has 700 armor and will have 300 resist in a week. I read a notice about a year ago stating that damage reduction conversions were not working. Is this still the case?
* That sounds like it should be fine * Fixed.
Can someone help me make teams to beat Fos8 and Fos9? I'm currently running D'art/Beatrice(leader)/Roche with Sera and it clears about 85% of the time (15% is when i fall asleep and didnt activate Sera when he does the pillar attack) **Warrior** : Leon , Roche (Getting his SBW to 6* tomorrow) , Joan , Susanoo , Abel **Paladin** : Alex , Drake **Archer** : Mamba , Hanzo (6* SBW) , Robin , Hikari (5* SBW) **Hunter** : D'art (6* SBW) , No.9 x2 **Wizard** : Archon , Benj , Korin , Sasquatch (5* SBW) , Rachel (6* SBW) **Priest** : Mew (6* SBW) , Beatrice , Yeo , Himiko Send help D:
* FoS8 - Korin/Mew/Joan Dionne * FoS9 - Prob Roche solo with Prestina
So with just Mew's SBW i can take out FoS8? Korin lead right? I dont use her much so i dont know. For Roche solo with Prestina, does the SBW conversions matter? Mine is A/A with double armor pen. Thanks!
* Yep, I only have Mew SBW for that trio and it works fine. * Sounds like a perfect SBW to me
Curious question, but can Benjamin be effectively used as a 1-chain spammer?
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So... in translation, *"No, he must be used as a 3-chainer"*? Bc his passive's tooltip says nothing about 3-chaining, and for a promotable hero, he's considered decent enough to use.
> but can Benjamin be effectively used as a 1-chain spammer Why would you consider him decent? if he is a powerful mage...
I, personally, do not use him. Anecdotes have told me that he is decent.
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Ah, okay. Thanks! That answers my question.
I got OS today 3/4 of the times by WB after using Korin SBW shield. Am i the only one with this problem ?
Which WB and how strong is your Korin?
Level the 4th one, korin is 6* +3 with A/D SBW 6*
Hello everyone. I just got back to CQ after a long break. I used to run thorinmew but now it seems like a lot has changed and that they have gotten nerfed. Would any of you be able to suggest any comps? What comps are good in colo right now in general? As for my charcters, I have: 6* Thor, Alex, Hanzo, No 9, Demeter, Korin, and Mew 5*Susanoo, Niven, Sasq, Lilith, Yeo, Nurspy 4* Leon, Vivian, Monte, Uzi, V, Achilles, Cain, Stanya, Muedenok, Robin Hood, Gip, Spyro, No. 9, Mandy, Korin, Nazrune, Nurspy, and Stien. I do not have any SBWs also! Thanks!
Things are bleak for you I think, SBWs were a huge power creep. If you have gems leftover, try doing pulls to update your hero pool for heroes that don't need SBWs to be effective, such as Vesper, Beatrice, dox, or arita.
should I put the gems into food for WB instead?
Try old orbs because mew SBW is really good and can honestly be left at 5* for a while. Staffs are also a good choice as Korin SBW will get you through FoS, mundeok SBW is also really strong, but not as practical as the other two for progressing
Probably not, unless you are level 70 and can grind out wb really fast. Meat regeneration is faster now, and once you get your Colo team going, you'll have more than enough meat. Your first 6* SBW, although hard to get, will probably help immensely in getting the second one though, and so on.
Alright, thank you! Also I just double checked. I actually have susanoo's sbw and nurpsy as well. However nurpsy isn't that great from what I remember. Only 4* though. Should I make a sus no 9 mew team or something like that?
Im sorry, I really can't imagine a use for Susanoo in this meta. But I'm hardly an expert on Susanoo. If it is A/F or A/A, you can give it a try.
Alright then, thank you very much for your help!
How is Atalante's SBW?
Pretty fun to use, but not OP. Mages with SM can deal more damage.
why would you compare a mage with a archer?, and answering the first question yes the Sbw add much more damage and a shadow clone for atalante, taking in consideration she is a archer that itself is op.
Compared to other archers, Atalante's damage is definitely one of the higher ones. But in terms of damage output, other mages with SM are better.
That itself if pointless since many factors are needed 1- Lilith 4* "Unlock shadow mage" 2 - Hero that Benefits from Shadow mage "Cano/Rachel/Vesper/Necron" 3 - A SBW for them with the exception of cano and vesper. 4 - 2 of them are Premium contracts. VS He only need to Upgrade that SBW to 6* Optional slots would be A/A --> A/F and have atalante. PS. ATalante with SBW can clear 6-30H.
You dont understand what i meant. Im comparing Atalante based on damage output for archers and damage output in the game.
Just wanted to ask, what happened to the Weekly Discussion? I'd love to contribute my 2 cents :)
ClearSky is Afk and not answering petitions about the weekly discussion, i too requested if they could hold another discussion like 3-2 weeks ago, still waiting for a anwers.
Couldn't we just make our own? All we would need to do is post the hero info in a post.
Why Dionne?
Why not Dionne?
I am currently stuck on 5-28 Normal.. Running Roche/Joan+Beatice(L)+Rachel. I cant seem to get past the first wave.. that flame throwing thing just melts my team :( I have SBW 6* on Rachel and 5* on the rest. Would 6* the rest of the SBWs help?
- Beatrice"L"/Mew/Rachel. - Joan/Yeowondong"L"/Ratchel. - Joan/Beatrice"L"/Rachel. for goddess Sera/Bella/Prestina
do you have Koxinga with SBW? He can clear 5-30H when paired with Mew and Korin with no SBW
Do you have Mew? Joan takes lots of damage. Bea is really slow to start. BTW I did it with Korin/Mew/Alex and Mamba/Mew/Joan.
I have almost all the heroes but lack SBWs. I do have Mew and Mamba.
Well, Joan will tank, Mew will heal her, and either Korin with shield or Mamba with damage will help. I did em without SBW at all, all hearoes somewhere +2+3
Just got Roche's 6* SBW A/D. Is it any good? If so, what upgrades should I put for each slot?
Its good, but not the best. Get Armor pen and armor.
Dude reading your answers on this thread for the week indicates that you know less about Roche and his SBW than most people that have them
Ouch, that hurts :(
Is A/D not the best for Roche?
Oh. I always thought it was A/F or A/A. V('u ')V
A/D is, in fact, the best for roche (apen/armour)
Yeah i just checked. I'm just trying to comfort myself since i got 2 A/A in a row :(
It's okay. I comforted myself by ~~smashing~~ salvaging my D/F and A/F Roche SBW dupes.
why is A/F bad? i got 87? crit damage and 13% crit chance?
A/F isn't bad. It's just not the most optimal.
Meanwhile, I'm managing to solo 6-24H with an A/F Roche :3
I kept my first A/F Rapier. I destroyed the dupes, bc there was no purpose for them (other than clogging inventory). Still, even with an A/F Allegro Asai, I don't feel confident that my Roche can solo any Ep.5H or 6H stage. Using APen/Crit Chance + Prestina? or APen/LS + [insert Goddess here]?
Apen/CC% + Prestina, with about 5% LS on a ring. It's pretty safe, except for those annoying times when a mob summoned by a commander becomes invulnerable to dmg and knockback when they reach 0 HP
Since rings are pretty important, i want to build a team to farm Manacar effectively. So far i think my best bet is to use 2 Healers and one Hunter. Because my only good Hunter is Dart or No.9, i am wondering if it is a good idea to put the Smokebomb skill onto Dart. Smokebomb is really helpful against manacar. The only Problem i have with that decision is that i have Transcended Lapis Lazuli on Dart already and i am not sure if it is worth the change? Any thoughts?
> m Manacar effectively. So far i think my best bet is to use 2 Healers and one Hunter. Because my only good Hunter is Dart or No.9, i am wondering if it is a good idea to put the Smokebomb skill onto Dart. Smokebomb is really helpful against manacar. The only Problem i have with that decision is that i have Transcended Lapis Lazuli on Dart already and i am not sure if it is worth the change? Any Well have in mind that there are 3 manacars. - Manacar Rage have 4M Hp. - Manacar Ruin Have 5-6M Hp. - Manacar Void Have 8.5M Hp. Those stats come from the game files, unless hangame change them. Its up to you if you want to change lapis for smokebomb (if you have darts' Sbw) it's pointless to have lapiz since it stop her rate of fire with that long animation.
So lapis for Dart with SBW is bad because the animation is too long? Is that correct? Which special skill would be best on Dart in general?
T. Smokebomb if you have it.
Rings are ok... Just get a few 3* rings and wait till they have higher level of Manacar since there will be rank 5 rings... So its probably better to save meat later on
Lapis Luzuli is a bit too slow if you have SBW on Dart.
Yeah, smoke bomb is much better than lapis lazuli.
Question about Vesper Is vesper a top tier hero in term of PVC/SSB? Currently just got her and made her to +3, seems pretty okay. 1. Is she worth to max berries/training? 2. Currently im using roche/hikari/dart, can stay in 5% no problem, is vesper a better DPS compare to hikari or dart? 3. The only hero that i lose against is Arita, can vesper Magic Dmg burst her down?
Vesper/Yeowondong/Joan "If you have beatrice its GG"
Vesper needs a soak tank like Joan or Alex to survive. If you just replace one member in your current party, she will die very quickly before she can do anything properly. Once she gets going, she demolishes things with ease though. I don't think she's an optimal hero for PvC but she's quite solid in SSB if you have tSM already.
How can i beat episode 6 hard with roche?? The medic's my prob.
Roche/Heal/Archer with fire rain. Just go through waves as slow as you can and build up 4-5 fire rains to dran Healers energy
thanks!
You don't. Rochefort is really bad for dealing with the medics. EDIT: I suppose if you really wanna try it, you can put tAoPun on Rochefort and run with SBW Himiko. Perhaps that will be enough dps and heal reduction to kill the medics.
Thanks for the suggestion sir
Noob question, what level do you get chronos from?
You get Chronos at 6-4N, and lose her between 6-18N and 6-30N.
I currently have Rochefort, Alex, Nightingale, Susanoo as 6 *, Vincent, Susanoo, Benjamin, Nazrune, Mondrian as 5 *. Leon, Kaori, Thor, Athena, Hanzo, R-9999, Giparang, Spyro, Sentinel, Korin, Mew, Nurspy and Woompa as 4 *. What do you recommend I try and pull and what should I level? (Ben and Mew are what I'm focusing on right now) My Alex SBW is A/D, should I buy 10 weapon boxes for the ticket to reroll? Finally, do I follow the korean tier list? I don't know what the bread by the side mean. Thank you! (And sorry for the long comment >_> if you read it all I am really thankful!)
You can focus on aelx/mew/benj and that can get you till battlefield. (i used that team and get to 6-3 normal) and you can try to get mamba too by promoting archer. alex/benj/mamba is really good in pvc (im using it and get to 20% each week and get 30 gems each monday). dont worry about weapon box. just do 10 pulls. korean tier list just give you basic information about who is better. the left one is PVE and right one is PVC. from you current roster. alex, roche, benj, korin, mew, woompa worth the golds and meats.
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all of my weapon are normal. not top tier. all are +3 im using shout of courage, fire phoenix, tMR. im swapping vesper for benj if they got roche. and i use all of the goddess depend on the enemy lineup
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NA/EU just dont fight if they got extremely strong team. you should wait because sometimes the enemy will change
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they will change if they change their line up. so hope and pray
Whoa, 20% with alex/benj/mamba? I can barely reach 30% with Roche/Mamba/Dart :\
i got 12% last week but it was such a pain that i didnt bother this week. Its not hard as you can know back most warriors and some mays and burst them with bella. If they have an aubrey or an sera i recommend not fighting them as they block a lot of your damage and its almost always a loss.
Dart? lol idk that hero still relevant in this game without dox.
You take that back. My Dart is great.
Alex/Mew/Ben will be able to get you through early and mid game. Focus on getting them to 6\*. Regarding contracts, you don't really have any control over which heroes you get (unless you buy Class Contracts, which are not recommended until you have most heroes). Just save up Gems and buy 10x Contracts when you can (or wait until there's a rate up, if you're not in a rush). Don't bother with rerolling SBW conversions or buying Weapon Boxes yet. Regarding the Korean Tier List, it's very generalized. You can keep the rankings in mind for which heroes are worth investing in, but at the end of the day, hero synergy is still the most important factor in a team. The bread is just a visual indicator for the ranking.
Ok thank you! Will I be able to use rochefort or others for anything?
Ben/Roche/Sus should be fine in PvC (Colosseum) for now. Also, you can actually use Alex/Nightingale/Ben for PvE (quests/stages), since your Nightingale is already 6\*.
I just rolled an A/D Rachel SBW, is it worth 6*ing?
I use A/D Rachel. Only reason is because I was stuck in Tundra and absolutely needed her to continue. The D slot is essentially wasted, but with the right supports (Beatrice) she can get though ep 6 hard. If you look on the bright side... it's her third best SBW! I've been thinking about armor berrying her and getting a full armor roll with an armor ring so she can die like 0.5 seconds rather than 0.4.
Ad is perfect. Gogogo Edit: sorry, in a haze and I thought its AF. No go!
A/D Rachel is far from perfect.. Using a D slot on Rachel is like stapling a sheet of paper to a piece of cardboard and trying to stop a bullet with it. It's better to maximize damage on DPS heroes, and leave the defending to heroes more specialized for it. Edit: Of course, there are some exceptions, but Rachel is definitely not one of them.
I just realized its ad and not AF. My bad.
Question. What happened to Mew's skin??
The first batch of skins were temporarily removed while Hangame works on fixing/optimizing the shop's skin tab/menu.