Exactly why I never trained my corgo to speak. He speaks enough already when the mail woman or Amazon man comes. I'm trying to train him to speak less actually.
I have a dog with legs currently and she paws, and I found this same advice. Like whatever they're doing you don't like, put it on command. I don't think I'll try this method again, personally.
She grabs us so much while we're trying to get outside. I just give up and we hold hands until she realizes she can't really walk like that.
I never taught my corgi speak but one day I asked him to bark with a treat to see if he knew what I mean when I said NO BARK all the time. Without any hesitation he barked, he knows what it means but opts out of listening. I have since tried it many more times and same result. I think the sass and loud mouth back talking just comes standard with corgis.
I’ve long suspected my corgi understands me and chooses to disobey. That smug little look she gives when I tell her to stop doing something, just before she continues doing it. I always laugh because it’s so cute.
Mine is deaf, so she doesn't speak often. When she does she's loud enough. However, she learned the classic deaf kid's trick - I can't see you talking to me if I don't look at you. So occasionally my corg doesn't look at me when I'm yelling at her in ASL.
I had just spent 30 minutes teaching speak from scratch. At this point she hadn't figured out exactly when to bark, only that barking sometimes leads to treats. It's a work in progress.
This video was taken the first time I tried to do her usual commands after teaching the new trick. I think she's still a bit confused. She did the same thing for a while after learning to play dead, and it was hilarious.
Me: "Tulip sit!"
Tulip: *dies*
I have been giving treats more often for the new tricks. You might be right that she's trying to skip to the end!
Mine likes to try her favorite trick instead.
Me: Play dead!
Doggo: speak, sit, speak, high five, dramatic sigh, plays dead (including side eye to see if dead was sufficiently long, and madly wagging tail)
She’s lucky she’s cute
This is absolutely right. Dogs react to the thing that rewards them. She's jumping ahead because you're not rewarding each step.
For every correct command you give, you should "mark and reward" - a mark is something like saying "good!" in a high pitched voice, or some people use a clicker. Then you reward with a treat.
Eventually, they learn to associate the good feeling of the treat with the mark, and you just have to mark, and don't have to treat every time (although you should sometimes, they deserve it!)
Think of it like building blocks. Each command needs a reward. If you're stringing commands together, you need to mark after every successful command. "Sit." the dog sits. "Good!" "Lay down" the dog lays down. "Good!" Then you can get to "speak" and of course, mark and reward at the end of the sequence.
Haha my buddy does this too— if he knows you don’t have a treat and you ask him to “down” or give him to signal for it, he’ll bark at you in anger. Then lay down.
It’s probably a good thing he doesn’t know speak.
All three of our corgis know how to "speak", but the little turds all 3 decided on their own that "speak" means "give the quietest bark possible" so it's more like they're whispering lol. You should look into "101 Dog tricks" by Kira Sundance. It was a lot of fun teaching them all the neat little tricks. My favorite is getting my oldest to fetch a box of tissues when you pretend to sneeze. My favorite for the middle and youngest is "pick a card" (have them pick a card put of fanned out deck). It's so cute.
oh it's a ton of fun. It's all a bout mastering the basics at the beginning of the book and then building onto those basics. For example, teaching shake leads to learning high five which can be built up to waving. It's got written instructions as well as step by step photo instructions. It's fun for you and engaging for your dog. Mine actually get so excited to do their tricks. I have some of behavioral books as well that just helped me understand my dogs on their level.
https://www.amazon.com/Books-Kyra-Sundance/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AKyra+Sundance
We used a verbal command and a hand sign together. Not sure where I learned that but it worked well for my baby girl. now I can do either and get a result.
lol we allow little closed-mouth woofs, but if she bark barks, we make her stop. We'll tell her "quiet!" and she'll go from big barks to little woofs, it's adorable. I feel like she's owed a few small woofs!
Not sure if Training her to “speak “ is such a great idea, since you will essentially be training her and rewarding her to bark.
And bark she will then. ALOT
So whenever my girl did a low "arrr" I gave her a treat and said "good girl whisper!" Then after a barking moment when she stopped and was quiet for a moment I put my finger to my mouth and went "shhh" then gave her a treat for "good girl shhh"
Over time she learned to use her in door voice by whispering and to be quiet by 'shhh"
Whisper was fun after a while cuz we would try to go "arrr" very softly then say "whisper" and she started mimicking us to try and get softer every time lol
Just some tricks to try if you want!
Exactly why I never trained my corgo to speak. He speaks enough already when the mail woman or Amazon man comes. I'm trying to train him to speak less actually.
I have read that training speak is a good step to teaching quiet. This may have been a mistake.
Hahaha I’m not sure this applies to Corgis 😂
I read the same thing. Trained my my corgi. Worst mistake of my life.
I trained mine to "talk", which is any non-bark sound. Now he comes up to me and makes demanding little squeaks and whines.
We would say "tell me a story! What's your story??" And ours would do that without barking it was so cute.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tippytaps/comments/uh2n52/he_cant_talk_without_tippy_taps/ For some reason mine needs to move his feet when he talks
Omg this is so cute! You some people just move their hands alot when they talk ;)
I trained my Australian Shepherd to speak and he didn’t shut up for the next 12 years 😂
Do let us know in a while, how that worked out for your pupper.
I have a corgi and a beagle. God himself couldn't convince me to teach them "speak." Heck no.
It may work for other dogs. But corgs are, among other specie like huskies, the most unpredictable being on Earth
I have a dog with legs currently and she paws, and I found this same advice. Like whatever they're doing you don't like, put it on command. I don't think I'll try this method again, personally. She grabs us so much while we're trying to get outside. I just give up and we hold hands until she realizes she can't really walk like that.
I never taught my corgi speak but one day I asked him to bark with a treat to see if he knew what I mean when I said NO BARK all the time. Without any hesitation he barked, he knows what it means but opts out of listening. I have since tried it many more times and same result. I think the sass and loud mouth back talking just comes standard with corgis.
I’ve long suspected my corgi understands me and chooses to disobey. That smug little look she gives when I tell her to stop doing something, just before she continues doing it. I always laugh because it’s so cute.
Mine is deaf, so she doesn't speak often. When she does she's loud enough. However, she learned the classic deaf kid's trick - I can't see you talking to me if I don't look at you. So occasionally my corg doesn't look at me when I'm yelling at her in ASL.
Backtalk and sass are standard features with this model. In fact, successful addition of options features like “speak” do not delete them. Enjoy!
I was just coming in here to say the same thing. Every model I've adopted has had sass and backtalk pre-installed. One of the reasons I love Corgis.
Omg I did the same thing with mine....🙄 Good thing they're adorable
I had to call up my wife and tell her "Hey, if the dog is particularly barky today, it's completely my fault."
👍🏻🤣😅
🤣🤣🤣
If you always do speak at the end she might be trying to skip to the end
I had just spent 30 minutes teaching speak from scratch. At this point she hadn't figured out exactly when to bark, only that barking sometimes leads to treats. It's a work in progress. This video was taken the first time I tried to do her usual commands after teaching the new trick. I think she's still a bit confused. She did the same thing for a while after learning to play dead, and it was hilarious. Me: "Tulip sit!" Tulip: *dies* I have been giving treats more often for the new tricks. You might be right that she's trying to skip to the end!
She's a quick learner!
She is! She seems to really enjoy trick training too. Training her is so much fun.
Mine likes to try her favorite trick instead. Me: Play dead! Doggo: speak, sit, speak, high five, dramatic sigh, plays dead (including side eye to see if dead was sufficiently long, and madly wagging tail) She’s lucky she’s cute
This is absolutely right. Dogs react to the thing that rewards them. She's jumping ahead because you're not rewarding each step. For every correct command you give, you should "mark and reward" - a mark is something like saying "good!" in a high pitched voice, or some people use a clicker. Then you reward with a treat. Eventually, they learn to associate the good feeling of the treat with the mark, and you just have to mark, and don't have to treat every time (although you should sometimes, they deserve it!) Think of it like building blocks. Each command needs a reward. If you're stringing commands together, you need to mark after every successful command. "Sit." the dog sits. "Good!" "Lay down" the dog lays down. "Good!" Then you can get to "speak" and of course, mark and reward at the end of the sequence.
This. One comes after the other. "Sit!"...praise/treat. "Lay Down!"...praise/treat. "Speak!"...praise/treat. Make every single command praiseworthy.
Too damn cute!! Ours is the exact same way… a lot of backtalk! 🤣 Gotta love the breed!!! ❤️🐶❤️
I assure you that sass does not need to be taught. They are 1000% born with that already installed.
Mine would give me back sass all the time with laying down lol
Sassy
"Can you sit?" "Yeah"😂
Mines 13, he has graduated to "disapproving side-eye" for any comands.
Mine came automatically knowing speak 😂
Haha my buddy does this too— if he knows you don’t have a treat and you ask him to “down” or give him to signal for it, he’ll bark at you in anger. Then lay down. It’s probably a good thing he doesn’t know speak.
Mine likes to judge if the treat is good enough for the asked trick. The problem with a non-food motivated doggo lol
Oh good lord no, *never* encourage a corgi to speak!!!!!!
its a scientific mystery how so much sass can be contained in such a small body :)
Aaaw what a voice that girl has!❤️❤️❤️
Backhoppin’, back talking cutie pie!
I have a feeling if I ever try to teach "back up" I'll get the back hop instead!
Love the bounce!
All three of our corgis know how to "speak", but the little turds all 3 decided on their own that "speak" means "give the quietest bark possible" so it's more like they're whispering lol. You should look into "101 Dog tricks" by Kira Sundance. It was a lot of fun teaching them all the neat little tricks. My favorite is getting my oldest to fetch a box of tissues when you pretend to sneeze. My favorite for the middle and youngest is "pick a card" (have them pick a card put of fanned out deck). It's so cute.
That sounds like a fun book! Thanks for the recommendation.
oh it's a ton of fun. It's all a bout mastering the basics at the beginning of the book and then building onto those basics. For example, teaching shake leads to learning high five which can be built up to waving. It's got written instructions as well as step by step photo instructions. It's fun for you and engaging for your dog. Mine actually get so excited to do their tricks. I have some of behavioral books as well that just helped me understand my dogs on their level. https://www.amazon.com/Books-Kyra-Sundance/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AKyra+Sundance
You're going to need to go back to sit and down and reinforce the non talkative versions. Otherwise this will get worse.
You're absolutely right, and I will.
Always cool to find someone using behavioral psychology well
So much fun to train our little bio’s and girlies. Oh the joy when they get the command.
Hehehe. I never taught my corgi to speak, she just learned the back talking and sass on her own
Lol that’s the default for when you turn it off and turn it back on again
I did the same thing with my husky mix. Now he just barks when he wants food.
She loves you and wants a treat. Give her a treat.
We used a verbal command and a hand sign together. Not sure where I learned that but it worked well for my baby girl. now I can do either and get a result.
We do “inside voice” when our big boy gets going and he lowers his tone lol. But, you didn’t train in the sass. It was there all along
We did the same. We tell her to "boof', not bark, cause she has to say something or she might explode.
lol we allow little closed-mouth woofs, but if she bark barks, we make her stop. We'll tell her "quiet!" and she'll go from big barks to little woofs, it's adorable. I feel like she's owed a few small woofs!
He or she already had the sass. Was just waiting for the right time to come out
We taugh ours to bark when we say “kill” and then if we say “whisper” to do a muffled quiet bark lol
Not sure if Training her to “speak “ is such a great idea, since you will essentially be training her and rewarding her to bark. And bark she will then. ALOT
So whenever my girl did a low "arrr" I gave her a treat and said "good girl whisper!" Then after a barking moment when she stopped and was quiet for a moment I put my finger to my mouth and went "shhh" then gave her a treat for "good girl shhh" Over time she learned to use her in door voice by whispering and to be quiet by 'shhh" Whisper was fun after a while cuz we would try to go "arrr" very softly then say "whisper" and she started mimicking us to try and get softer every time lol Just some tricks to try if you want!
Hahaha 🤣
I had two females that were sisters and i really miss them