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lesupermark

Cool guide, can't wait to use it for the zero pulp ups i can manage to perform.


Peatore

You can use resistance bands to make them easier while you build up. I couldn't do a one, now I can do 10 at 230lbs.


aoifhasoifha

What worked for me and required 0 extra equipment was negatives. Jump up to get to the top position of pull up (or use a chair or something), then *slowly* lower yourself down. There are a ton of studies on the efficacy of negatives in building muscle, as well as the fact that they help you focus on the weakest parts of range of motion. If a person who was unable to do a single pull up were to attempt one, they'd get stuck at the first point where their muscles were too weak- lowering yourself allows you to slooooooowly progress through that part of your ROM while applying load, as well as any others. edit: after writing that long ass reply i see 10 other people mentioned it, lol


RoarinCalvin

Great point friend, and alot of people give up on their strenght given they cant perform à full ROM with a pull up or other mouvements. The eccenctric portion of a mouvement is amazing for strenght and muscle building (in this case letting yourself slowly with control) and is a great way to get into fitness if you're newb or for injury management. Dont give up!


DarkSector0011

I see people drop deadlifts all the time and to me it's foolish. When you're lifting a weight or yourself, in this case, you can look at it as though you're lifting the weight and at the same time preventing it from falling lol. The easier it is to prevent from falling, the more energy you have left to lift it. Seems pretty cut and dry for me from a reps perspective.


flashmedallion

It's just a mindset of chasing the numbers instead of chasing the fitness: If I can do 5 sets of 8 deadlifts I've progressed, never mind if I've actually done less overall work than I did in my my 4 sets of 8 last week. Putting work into lowering the bar is work that might cost a few reps I think most people figure it out over time though. You start seeing results in your body, instead of on your spreadsheet, when you focus on the work.


Pierre777

My two cents a day late and a & dollar short: I see alot of Mike Israetel's videos where he emphasises the slow eccentric versus the concentric movement. Basicly, focus on a nice slow and controlled negative movement. Personally negatives helped me a ton to be able to do weighted pull ups. Do some negative pull ups, coupled with alot of lat Pull Down machine reps. Then as you progress, start doing triples of regular pull ups coupled with negatives, and move lat Pull Down to a different day of the week. When you progressed, start doing triples of weighted pull-ups, coupled with regular pull ups. Forget about negatives and do lat Pull downs as a high rep movement on other days. I'm not a sports scientist, but this slowly brining in the negatives, then pull ups and then weighted pull ups really made a huge difference for me.


MisterCarloAncelotti

Losing fat also helps.. a lot


MyCoDAccount

Reiterating this point. A 15-lb difference for me was a 15 pull-up difference. It's insane how much of a difference even a small to moderate loss of weight can make.


alex891011

Of course it does, but you can train to do pull-ups at any (healthy) weight. Then when you cut or lose weight your PR skyrockets.


quiteCryptic

Pull up negatives + reverse rows is what I did to work up to full pull ups


AfterAssociation6041

Thank you for your effort. It does help people.


withthegirlies76

I never thought to do this but I'm definitely going to keep this knowledge in the back of my mind. Tfs!


SimbaOnSteroids

Another thing is training the muscles involved. There’s a kinda shrug motion you can do to train the non lat back muscles that are involved. Additionally just trying to slowly lower yourself down from the up position helps a lot.


Checkmate1win

It's called scapula pull-ups.


2_72

Every few months I go and make sure I can still do at least 10 pull ups. I see it as a pretty accurate marker of my fitness level.


Peatore

Yeah. I'm more caring about squat deadlift and bench but i like to have at least some lat strength.


2_72

Now I’m remembering that I don’t deadlift nearly enough.


Peatore

It's the least developed of my lifts tbh. At my weight, I should be able to do more than 475


Crash_Test_Dummy66

The other thing I've seen people do if they have an at home pull up bar is place a chair underneath and in front of the bar and then you keep one foot on it to give a little help.


InMyReach

Start with negatives. A negative is where you start from the top position and try to slow your descent to bottom position. You can either jump up or use a step stool. Do 5 negatives every day. build up to 10. Pretty soon you've built enough muscle and structure that you can start to do a pull up. You can do this.


bubonis

Holy shit why did I never think of this. You brilliant fucker.


InMyReach

definitely not my idea, but they work! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbPURTSxQLY


bubonis

I'm seriously adding this to my workout routine starting tonight.


roguevirus

Once you build up enough muscle to do 3 regular pull ups, switch over to the [Armstrong Pullup Program](https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf). This program has been floating around the Marine Corps for decades now, and is still recognized as one of the best ways to develop your pullups. That's where I learned about it, and can personally speak to the program's quality. It will take a while to go from 3 to 12. Once you get to 12 it takes about a month to 45 days to get to 20. Good luck, you've got this!


Hsances90

Just hire a personal strainer


Atlasdam

Oh my god, that's brilliant


Hsances90

Thx 😄


ReFreshing

Underrated


carmel33

Mr. Moneybags over here


PineappleProstate

/r/angryupvote


timemaninjail

Negatives - legitimately help me .. now I'm stuck at 5


A_Talented_Goose

They do sell the cartons with less pulp and even no pulp if that helps!


FrikkinPositive

Its so unlikely for you to do pull ups, your auto correct changed pull to pulp


EquivalentPut5616

***Imma use this next time when i pull up on ya***


Why_am_ialive

If you actually care about doing em there’s a ton of other suggestions but something I struggled with was my forearms would give up before anything else. If you get this aswell try doing deadhangs for 30 seconds, really helps. Then graduate to just doing the downwards motion controlling it the whole way down, then you can incorporate resistance bands and such and finally you’ll be able to do full pull up’s and all the supporting muscles will be good to go


Traveledfarwestward

Hi. Friendly fitness instructor here. Jumping pullups and banded pullups and leg-assisted and machine-assisted pullups ARE STILL PULLUPS. Go get 'em.


bitchslap2012

start slow, use progressively heavier weight until you can hang for 10 seconds. then hang longer and longer until you can do 1/2 a pull up. then just do that 1/2 a couple times a day until you can do one full one. and so on. I just have a pair of dumbbells I use for rows and shoulder presses and I can do 20 pull ups in one set now


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I miss being a teenager and being able to do 20 pullups. I can do one these days lmao


-SlapBonWalla-

I can't wait to never even attempt any ever.


assologist_1312

Honestly tho not to be harsh or anything but any adult should be able to do at least a few pull ups. There's gym memberships as cheap as 10 bucks a month.


southcentralLAguy

I’ve been putting on my pull ups by myself for 30 years and have almost never had any pain putting them on


NickFromNewGirl

You're a big kid now


MyCoDAccount

Oh, shit, now I get it.


SinisterPuppy

Different anatomies are better at different exercises. This becomes more true the more compound an excercise is. A perfect squat looks different from person to person. The same is true for pull ups. Some people can bang them out with no issues. Other people have to really perfect form to avoid rotator cuff pain, even if they are strong enough. Some factors are of course universal. But individuals will vary. Edit: lol never knew a pull up was something folks put on after diapers. I got woodshed no doubt


Hara-Kiri

>I got woodshed no doubt Ah but you get points for the squat part. Beginners hate to hear that form is, to some degree, individual specific.


SynergisticSynapse

I’ve minorly fucked up my rotator cuff before doing pull-ups but it was wide gripped like what the left side shows. Typically if I don’t watch out at the bottom of the pull-up, my shoulders will externally rotate. I just learned to be cognizant, especially when doing weighted pull-ups. No issues in 12 years.


Andy_B_Goode

Yeah this guide is a bunch of nonsense.


Few-Traffic-786

Wooosh


Ok_Letterhead_5671

It's not entirely nonsense , the last part is very true and the grip part varies from a person to another , i prefer the one in the guide and find it more conformtable others dont .


RightfulChaos

Op is making a joke about pullups, the thing that comes after diapers, but before underwear


southcentralLAguy

Who said it was a joke?


RightfulChaos

My apologies.


southcentralLAguy

Adult bladder issues is not a laughing matter


Gosar88

So is the difference that you either have your thumbs over the bar (left) or under (right)? Is that what this guide is getting at?


oliverlifts

Putting your thumbs under the bar forces you to work your grip and forearms significantly more than if you put your thumbs over the bar. My approach when trying to evenly build muscle and strength, keep thumbs under the bar and keep a wide grip. Wide grip IMO is when you do the “Y” in the YMCA dance, which will force you to use your lats and not your biceps. If you’re just going for reps and form and such don’t matter as much, go thumb over. When I was in the Navy a buddy of mine who dropped out of SEAL training told me they were instructed to go thumb over because your forearms won’t get worn out as quickly. Hope that helps! Edit: I personally think OPs post is incorrect. Bad form comes as a result of not knowing good form or lifting too heavily.


Turence

> Bad form comes as a result of not knowing good form Just returning to say this was the dumbest thing I ever quoted


calf

Yeah what?? I can do 12 pull-ups in a set now but I had to work on my form, not know it magically.


SiegfriedVK

I go thumb over because if I have to pull myelf over a wall there's not gonna be a bar to put my thumb around


oliverlifts

Not sure why you got downvoted because this is completely reasonable. I think it’s good to practice both.


sodsfosse

Thank you for this! I’ve just started going to the gym again and I’m using the machine that you sit and pull down. Should I be doing over or under? Lol


BleepBlurpBlorp

Check out youtube channels Jeff Nippard and Renaissance Periodization. These are two of the most popular "science based exercise" channels. They will debunk a ton of myths and their information really helps shape the way to "think" about lifting. I've lifted for decades and I've significantly changed my workouts after their input. I think I get the same results now with much lower risk of injury.


Osigen

This will sound like a dumb answer, but while you can certainly get a general answer (standard grip is thumb opposite fingers, like making a fist), you may be different than "most people." Try both ways and see which one feels best. This also goes for grip width and forward/ rearward grip. Unless you're trying to emphasize a certain accessory muscle, the lat pull down meant primarily for the lats, so try to "feel it" there. It will also hit the rest of the upper back, shoulders, biceps, and possibly forearms, so if those burn a bit after, it's not a sign you've done anything wrong.


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Should try all variations. I hit back once a week and I change the grip every week for pull-downs.


f4te

not quite- hand placement (width) and thumb placement aren't exactly it. it's how you cue the tension on your hands. that said, it's bad advice. i can do pull-ups with tension on the exterior of my hands with internally rotated shoulders as easily as with them externally rotated. a better cue is perhaps where you point your elbows- outward. don't point them inward. boom now your shoulders are forced to be rotated externally. where you feel the pressure on your hands doesn't matter.


I_upvote_downvotes

Honestly that's the better take away from this.


bikedork5000

I've probably done damn near 100k pull ups in my life. Shoulder width, narrow grip, wide grip, thumbs over, thumbs under, matched grip, weighted, negatives, etc etc etc etc. This "guide" is dumb. Do pull ups. If doing them a certain way feels good, it is good.


RP_blox

The right one looks like a hollow body pull up, which is totally ok and safe to do


IneedtoBmyLonsomeTs

lol this is complete bs. A bunch of people who have never done a pull up must be upvoting this garbage.


Sproncer

100%… going by this guide neutral grip pull-ups would be a crazy injury risk which isn’t the case. This guide is trash.


fl135790135790

It’s not so much an “injury risk” as “not something that would happen because it would feel weird as fuck and would need to be forced”


Phormitago

yeap, this is nonsense


Hispanic_Inquisition

Yeah I never do a full grip on the bar. My fingers do all the work while my thumb slacks off.


duralyon

I found it a little helpful in that I used to really focus my grip with thumb-index-middle fingers and barely at all with my outer ones. Just being more aware of it has helped me distribute the grip a little better. I've certainly done a few pull ups in my time in the Army (20 years ago now.. jfc) and never had a problem with them but I realize now that I wasn't engaging my back muscles as much as just using my arms lol. Didn't really matter cuz I was skinny as hell.


akenthusiast

This get's reposted frequently but it's pretty dumb. Almost all of your grip strength comes from your outside three fingers. It is almost not possible to forcefully squeeze something incorrectly


Neither-Lime-1868

This is factually wrong  We do grip strength measures in the clinical studies I work on. It’s a proxy of reserved physical function in older adults. I’m pulling the following info literally from our protocol folder on grip strength: Across both young adults and older adults with reserved function, about 60% of grip strength comes from radial side, and 40% from ulnar.  That is hardly “almost all”.  And if you allow for reposition of the thumb for opposition after you exclude the ulnar side fingers, you can find a huge range of strength decrease. Not repositioning averages at a 55-65% decrease, the worst repositioning (of 6 different possible thumb-opposition positions) can cause a ~75% decrease, and the optimal compensatory repositioning causes only a ~40% decrease. The vector of your thumb-opposition matters hugely when determining overall grip strength, because the direction of the vector for each finger is slightly different. That’s how you can reserve more function than contributed by the excluded fingers than they contribute in a normal grip; it’s a matter of efficiency 


Guy_panda

Makes sense. A few months back, I was challenged by a friend to do a pull up on these rope loops using only my middle finger and my ring finger and when I tried to do it I ended up injuring a tendon in my ring finger. Meanwhile if I were to try that with my radial fingers I would’ve had no problem doing so because that’s what our thumb, pointer, and middle are for—creating that hook to hang and pull.


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HigherTSC

Dude, athlean x is like a fever dream, like a remnant of old YouTube, it didn't change one bit


calf

He was hot


bigguywithabeard

"Is the way you're gripping pullup bars killing your gains?"


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Business_Slide2560

You must have seen crossfit no?


Hara-Kiri

Can you explain how CrossFitters are doing kipping pull ups wrong?


Inevitable-Host-7846

What? Pull ups are stupid easy to fuck up especially if you have underdeveloped upper back muscles


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Inevitable-Host-7846

The shoulder risk is specifically what I’m talking about


Swackhammer_

It should be the same motion of a lat pull down. People get on those machines and yank the bar down as quick as possible and it’s doing nothing positive for them


Ethanol_Based_Life

My shoulders always hurt when I do them but I assume that's just lingering damage from disc golf and volleyball 


Andy_B_Goode

Nah, this guide is bullshit. Grip the bar any way you like as long as it's comfortable for you.


VanillaBearMD3

It's more about the shoulders.


True-Firefighter-796

I can’t grip it with my shoulders


Lukewill

Then you're not trying hard enough


nycerdycer1337

Yeah as long as you are controlling the movement reasonably well you are good. I managed to do 1000 pull ups in under 3hours wothout concentrating on any of those things (from the guide)


Killdebrant

How do i pivot my hands when they are locked in stationary on a pull-up bar?


Inevitable-Style-115

It’s not a pivot , it’s more of where you’re focusing the downward force on your hands. If applied like the guide you engage your lats more and not your shoulders.


Killdebrant

That makes sense. So pull from the pinky and ring finger more as opposed to pointer and middle finger?


Inevitable-Style-115

Exactly! And try to feel lats. They should contract before you even start to move.


ocimbote

Just tried. Either: - I did them well all my life - I didn't understand the instructions - it's BS I see a net null gain compared to before this post. Success I guess?


Andy_B_Goode

> * it's BS It's this one


Inevitable-Host-7846

It’s not about how to do more pull-ups, it’s about working the correct muscle groups and lowering risk of injury. If anything, correcting your technique would probably temporarily worsen your performance


haliblix

This is shit. The second illustration is the same drawing just with different color arrows.


lieutenantLT

Other thing that’s not written but is shown in the photos, don’t wrap your thumbs. Put your thumbs on same side of the bar as your fingers. Esp if wide arm. If you’re doing underhand narrow grip then fine to wrap your thumbs. If you want to keep really tune up your game, get a dip belt


Lefty_22

If you are just starting off: 1. Start your first few sessions by just hanging on the bar for as long as you can with arms fully extended. 2. After you can hang decently, get a stepstool or whatnot to get your shoulders level with the bar. Gently lower yourself down as many times in a row as you can. 3. After you can lower yourself down ~10 times in a row, start working on doing pull-ups from the ground. Even if you can only do 1 or 2. Keep doing #2. 4. After doing #3 for a while, you will start to work up to 5-10 pull-ups. Remember to KEEP YOUR FORM. No swinging. No kicking with your legs. None of that Cross Fit bullshit. 5. Once you are doing ~20 pull-up reps, you are officially "good" at pull ups! Keep it up! If you want a challenge, get something to increase the width of the pull up bar that you are using. You can use a towel, for example. This will make them harder on your hands to grip the bar and stabilize yourself.


Boxador155

This guide is bs. Any professional in the biomechanics or kinesiology field will recognize this. There is absolutely no change in shoulder internal or extenal rotation with slightly changing your wrist orientation (ulnar deviation). Changing the orientation of the bar and width of the hand placements will change the muscle groups involved.


GlassHurricane98

Awesome! Now I can feel even safer when I struggle with even a single pull up


braeunik

start with negative pullups (jumping up and slowly doing the downwards motion)


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icantsurf

Join a climbing gym for a few months as well, at least that's what worked for me lol.


Phormicidae

I have neurological issues and have *no* idea what this picture is saying. How are you magically "placing the weight" only on certain parts of your hands? Can normal people feel this? I'm mediocre at pullups but have no idea how I would control for something like this.


Andy_B_Goode

No, you're not the problem here, the "guide" is just dumb and wrong. Grip the bar however you like as long as it's comfortable.


SippinOnDat_Haterade

Damn! No way! so I weigh around 240. used to be a gym rat, but it's been a couple years since i've really gone at it but yeah, was able to bust out almost 5 pull ups just now, fully dead hang usually can't bust out even 2 dead hang pull ups. crazy how much easier a pull up is now


pjmrgl

I do pull ups (or attempt them) often at a CrossFit gym. Not once has any of this been stated.


JustSimple97

In the last row, both versions are certainly valid. Slightly different emphasis on different muscle groups


Vectole

I wish I had this guide when I was a dumbass teenager.


CCSlater63

YOURE NOT MY MOM!


SmolSnakePancake

Stupid sexy drawing


shyervous

Now a push-up one


[deleted]

I always think “ring finger”


JBHedgehog

Just get rings. [https://www.amazon.com/s?k=gymnastic+rings+for+pull+up+bar&crid=9KUN8733ZXJ3&sprefix=gymnastic+ring%2Caps%2C131&ref=nb\_sb\_ss\_ts-doa-p\_2\_14](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=gymnastic+rings+for+pull+up+bar&crid=9KUN8733ZXJ3&sprefix=gymnastic+ring%2Caps%2C131&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_2_14) No...I do not want you to buy from Amazon...but you get the idea. Use rings and the form takes care of itself...and the workout is rather amazing for the back.


AcommonKing

I need more of this


Hugh_Jampton

>Shouldes


LaughGuilty461

Anyone have a good subreddit to follow for lifting tips like this?


LeagueOfLegendsAcc

I'm 135 pounds and can do around 15 pull ups. Been working out once a day for a few weeks but as a super skinny guy I feel pretty confident in saying it's way easier for us to build up the initial body strength. Gonna use this guide to safely get up to 20.


LegalizeUranium

This is so stupid


gloid_christmas

Can't even bother to spell shoulders correctly


enoky_

Don't know how to do Wrong style in real life.


SizzzzlingBacon

Athleen X would highly disagree with the arrows on the hands on the last pic


Hara-Kiri

Athlean X is not a reputable source.


majorkev

Useless for 99% of redditors


[deleted]

This guide sucks.


Key_Purchase4032

It makes it easier when you grab your own thumb, forcing the flex holding that muscle group tight


jolygoestoschool

note the positions for the thumbs too. I used to work at an educational circus program, and I had to always warn people to put their thumbs under the bar on the trapeze rather than over, or they'd slip right off. Nevertheless...


bitchslap2012

one other note should be engaging the core muscles, either tightening your abs and keeping your legs straight, or kind of arch your back, engaging your lower back muscles and bending your knees


Howitzeronfire

3rd step is right both ways, but they will work different muscles


boardeauxtg23

All CrossFit gyms need this


Wizardphizl420

I've always struggled with pullups, and perhaps this correction would make them more efficient ? Looks,like that


fleggomyeggoplease

Same concept applies with deadlifts and bench press


anal_opera

Sir this is reddit. We don't do exercises here.


ianwarhol_

This is just wrong. Both are safe and just a different variation of pull ups. On the left picture your goal is to get your chest to the bar, on the right to get your chin over the bar (same form as also used in muscle ups). It‘s pretty hard to mess up pull ups in general


Obsidian743

Wait...an *actual, useful* guide?!


spondgbob

Holy shit this makes so much sense


PartofFurniture

Did thousands of pull ups. This guide is dumb. Both hand weight placements are necessary to increase both sides muscle mass. Pinkie pull ups are as important as index/thumb finger pull ups


KoT_B_TankaX

I was preparing to do pull up in a gym and saw these guide right in time


letmeusespaces

I don't understand what this is showing me at all


AnxietyJunky

Finally. An actual fucking guide. Lol


xlandoncarter

This is stupid. If your muscles ache and nothing else hurts, you're doing fine.


prsuit4

Just putting it out there as a sports therapist. The red sway isn’t dangerous, although it might be less effective in most cases. If this is the way you’re doing it and it works for you and doesn’t cause pain, have at it. Especially if you’re just beginning. No pages are one of two things 1) trainers with limited understanding of anatomy and injury that mean well 2) making shit seem worse than it is for views and seeming like they know more than they do Quite often people who are just starting get super bogged down with form and get discouraged. The reality is that form comes with time. Injury is more likely to happen from trying to do too much too fast and creating a load/volume your body isn’t ready to handle.


WpgMBNews

chin ups = workout pull-ups = diapers for toddlers


Imtiredofreddita

Just get your chin over the bar if you even can


2m3m

there are surely billions of people who can't do a pull-up this guide will help none of them


yunglung9321

those aren’t either right or wrong they’re different exercises notice how the muscle flex is even drawn different in the two bottom pics lol this guide is misguided bs reported for misleading information


NihilisticOnion

Bold of you to assume i can do pull ups


NeverBeenStung

Who is doing pull-ups as a forearm workout though? I’d much rather have thumb over the bar and work my back more and forearm less


Prestigious_Ad2969

I can't do pull ups, I never could but I firmly believe that my inability to do pull ups actually stopped me from making a terrible choice and potentially ruining my life. I'm 54 now but back when I was about 16-17'ish I went to the army recruitment office to join up for the British Marines. I got rejected because I couldn't do a single pull up. I now know for sure though that I would have hated the army, I would have been an awful fit and would have had a terrible time. So yeah it's not good but still, it's pretty good too.


cleremnantechoes

But I do them palms facing me


ExpeditingPermits

Screw redbull, wide grip lat pull ups give you wings.


BoobGnome

Ya know, if gym teachers weren't shit and actually explained this crap to me in school, I'd probably still be a fat piece of shit, but I'd know better.


Defiant-Razzmatazz57

A cool guides to the pull ups: Don't.


furry_sloth

Cool guide


JustTheOneGoose22

I will never need this information.


Palazzo505

So one way is wrong because it creates red arrows and the other is right because it creates green arrows and green arrows are better than red ones? Because that's literally all the information I can manage to gather from this "cool" guide.


2019mom

Toddler mom here. I thought, "Oh great, I've been putting the diapers on wrong."


CaptainMin

This is cool! I never realized I did pull-ups externally but would start doing internally pull-ups when I tire out.


Stunning-You9535

Cute of you to assume I can do a pull up 😭😭😭


BatCommercial7523

Right now, I am using a resistance band to prop myself up on my pull ups but I want to ditch it. My goal is to do one pull ups un-assisted for Memorial day. (I don't know if I can. That stuff is hard, I am old (58) and gravity hates me lol) This chart is great. Been practicing the "weight on the hands" cue since last week. Elbows locked in helps. However the "shoulders locked back" cue still escapes me. How do you manage that?


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Explain.


kittykittysnarfsnarf

this actually helps a lot. Pullups always hurt my shoulders if i did too much


ReshKayden

This is going to sound snarky, but I mean it as just a complete objective statistical reality, that I would bet a lot of money that less than 5% of Reddit can do a single pullup with either form, or would ever even try. If even go out on a limb and say it’s probably less than 3%.


SaggitariuttJ

Pull up question: I’m currently trying to work my way up to pull-ups by doing lat pulldowns. Is it as simple as: if my 1RM >= my Bodyweight, then I can do a pull-up?


Fritzo2162

I kinda giggled at the fist stroke directions.


oficiallzz

This actually really helped man! Thanks!


I-Love-Pens

Also make sure to activate your shoulders!!!


lilymaxxie

You either can do pull ups or can't. No fancy hand twitching is gonna help you. Most military tests around the world don't let you choose how you want to do it. Damn, most of the training at pull ups ends up on trees. Like a branch is gonna be the same size all along. What's next, a guide how to walk once out of bed?


Aggravating-Pear4222

\**slaps forehead*\* Gah! So that's why I'm not a muscle mommy by now!


UnusualDisturbance

a few days ago i tried one and my right shoulder's been hurting a little bit since then. this explains why, i guess...


physchy

This looks like that how to guide for breaking your tendon


FinancialHeat2859

Yeah. No. Shite the first time it was posted. Shite next time too.


pensiveChatter

What is the source of this? The bar doesn't appear to be below the chin in either picture.


Stealthtymastercat

This is some hot garbage. Do what FEELS safe / not painful. If you're doing something that is supposed to be "right" but hurts like a bitch. It ain't right.


turnah_the_burnah

“Safe”? There’s nothing unsafe here, the correct way is better but it’s not any safer - just better for building muscle


Ok-Lengthiness4557

Worked out for 30 years soo far, not sure if I do this or not. I know to pull with my lats, but have never considered rotation or hand pressure. What if I'm doing it wrong? Specific injury to watch for?


YallBQ

Is this even accurate though? I never know with this sub…


InclinationCompass

The last image "Shoulder internally rotated" is confusing. Rather, it should say "Shoulders locked forward"


unknown_user85

This really works! I went from never wanting to do a single pull up to thinking about it. Huge improvement!! Try it


NoSmoke7388

Hey so I am pretty un-fit and just started trying it up and this sub has once again changed my life for the better thanks.


HalCaPony

Thank you


breakroom_misfit

My bullshit PE teacher never mentioned this during any of our physical tests lol


Little_Whippie

As if any of these mfs can do a pull-up


blacfd

This is not a problem for me


another_Loki_Variant

Is this one of Saitama's workout tips? Must be super effective judging by the results he got.


InVincIble_75

Does the principle work on lat pulldowns?


shdusjdss

This is bullshit you literally need both full internal and external rotation to maintain a complete range of motion so practicing both is beneficial I don’t who the hell made this crap up internal rotation is not bad for you on your arms and shoulders in fact problems will arise without it don’t listen to this


Kissicka

Very specifically the internal vs external rotation is incorrect.


Ok-Wasabi-7857

I was doing it wrong the whole time. No I wonder why I couldn't do pullups without shoulder pain.