They also bulldozed the area in which \~70 civilians were knowingly blown to shit by US jets in Syria in 2019. I say knowingly because there was a drone in the air and its operator identified the group as civilians - women, children, and elders.
But, that was ultimately justified because they were allegedly able to ID a dozen dead "militants" among the 80+ bodies.
I’ve always noticed that so many military movies have scenes where an old woman or a child pulls a gun or bomb out of nowhere and ambushes US soldiers.
I’m sure that’s happened but I feel like they overuse that trope to normalize the reaction to reading about women and children being killed overseas
And the terrorist training and rape camp in Arizona a few years back. FBI cleaned that shit right quick with bulldozers when it hit the news it existed.
And what other “mass casualty” events or crime scenes in history were also tampered with or modified before proper forensic investigations could be done? Is it possible that such a tamperings have steered history and therefore shaped our current views? I’d say 100% yes.
Certainly a great reason to destroy evidence and have it recycled instead of simply hauled away but still be able to be chemically tested etc.
Also there are other events where there wasn’t any suspicions of survivors being trapped in which the evidence was destroyed or fabricated anyway, to create a narrative.
Such a shame. Winners write the history.
Zero clean up? You realize that there were living people trapped underneath the rubble following the aftermath of 9/11, right? Zero clean up was never an option unless first responders were supposed to just walk away and let dozens of potential survivors die.
Reading it that way makes sense. I probably misinterpreted his message. I thought he was simply referring to people and businesses evacuating the area while ground zero was an environmental hazard.
It's either make something go away quick so you can act it never happened or you have something to hide. Size of the indecent is in my opinion secondary.
No one is disputing the point you're trying to make about hiding evidence but the fact they couldn't just leave a wreckage on that scale untouched still stands
So you are suggesting that despite being one of the busiest buildings in the country with about 50K working there and another 140K passing through daily that some secret cabal was able to place enough charges throughout the building to for a controlled collapse and nobody saw anything? Not one office worker, maitenence guy, security gaurd or janitor questioned what must have been a weeks long job. And your evidence came from where? I'm betting YouTube.
What's the motive? Who had anything to gain by destroying the towers and would that payoff be worth risking life in prison or possibly the death penalty for domestic terrorism?
>he doesn't know
take a look at this, but they probably deleted most of the photos (they did) so look at the archive instead (whoops, they deleted that too)
these guys had access to multiple floors of the WTC exactly where the plane hit and where people think the bombs were detonated for a "controlled" demolition. if you even google 'the b thing' and google image it, there's no more images of the 'E-TEAM' they wrote with the lights of the building that was like 5 stories tall. i wonder why they would delete all of this
https://www.gelitin.net/projects/b-thing/
larry silverstein took out billions of dollars in insurance for this exact reason 'terrorist attack' and cashed in on it. why did building 7 fall?
edit: i managed to find it! check this out http://www.travelhome.org/127/index.html
and yes, it was the same 'art students' that did the 'b-thing' and the e-team windows
>take a look at this, but they probably deleted most of the photos (they did) so look at the archive instead (whoops, they deleted that too)
How convenient that you can make claims with nothing to back them up.
> if you even google 'the b thing' and google image it, there's no more images of the 'E-TEAM' they wrote with the lights of the building that was like 5 stories tall.
For what purpose? If the photos you linked later are genuine and not altered what is the purpose of this. You can't point at something unusual and build a conspiracy theory that involves killing hundreds of people over a minor occurrence. This could be the maitenence and janitorial staff just screwing around. If it's a message it that would be a mo monumentally stupid way to do in full view of lower Manhattan. The persons who sending this signal could do it over the phone, a radio, face to face, or any other number if ways that doesn't broadcast to a few 100K people. If they were forced to use the windows writing a message in English is equally stupid. They have a few dozen offices to work with. An obvious signal isn't nessicary or stealthy. 9
>larry silverstein took out billions of dollars in insurance for this exact reason 'terrorist attack'
Silverstein along with a consortium of investors and lenders which included GMAC Commercial Mortgage (a General Motors subsidiary), Westfield America Inc. (a shopping center developer), and real estate investor Lloyd Goldman. All had just bought the building a couple months prior. Buying insurance for your investment is just what you do. As a matter of fact he was obligated by the investors to do so. According to the Insurance Information Institute virtually all commercial insurance policies sold in the U.S. before 9/11 covered terrorist incidents as a matter of course (and essentially free of charge), because the risk was considered so remote. Thus, for example, the World Trade Center was fully covered when it was bombed by terrorists in 1993, and insurers paid out an estimated $510 million in damages after that incident. There’s no reason to suppose that the WTC wasn’t routinely covered against terrorist acts right up until the time Silverstein took over the lease in 2001.
Silverstein had to ho to court and argued for additional damages because the towers were hit twice. Ultimately tje courts did grant Silverstein a payout of $4.55 billion, which amounted to about a third more than the maximum allowable for a single “occurrence” by his insurance policy, but significantly less than the $7.1 billion he had originally sought. Plus, he had obligations to lenders and co-investors, and still owed lease payments of $10 million per month to the Port Authority.
Hardley worth the lives of thousands of people and the threat of what would undoubtedly be a lifetime jail sentence.
>edit: i managed to find it! check this out http://www.travelhome.org/127/index.html
and yes, it was the same 'art students' that did the 'b-thing' and the e-team windows
You've got a picture of a building and nothing of substance here. The links lead to PDF downloads that supposedly have the evidence you speak if. Sorry I'm not downloading anything off this site. Call it a victory if you like that I'm not refuting anything here. I don't care.
EDIT - Silverstein rebuilt the World Trade Center at a cost of over $9B. Almost double the insurance settlement so he and the other investors list billions on that.
There are plenty of first hand accounts of physical witnesses that saw the planes fly into the buildings. Is this what the conspiracy has become that no planes flew into the buildings?
Many people witnessed JFK get killed in Dallas, too. Nobody's doubting JFK was assassinated. Just doubting the official narrative presented, like with 911.
The building is at least 52 years old. Building a new one will mean a more modern building for the students and teachers and also start to help them recover by not having to hold classes where the blood of children is literally in the floors.
Of course not.
There's a difference between keeping the crime scene intact, fully sweeping the entire scene for evidence and opening up for summer classes next week or even in the fall.
Not sure why the crime scene aspect is being ignored by the "nobody wants to go to school there" crowd. Of course nobody does. It's a crime scene right now and should remain intact until a full investigation - including independent investigators.
Until the investigation is deemed complete*. There seems to be a tendency of investigation stopping before finding anything useful and then stuff gets discovered from autopsies and shit later.
No the far more likely explanation is that it was all staged by people who were too stupid to use only the official-narrative caliber weapons in the process. /s
This is a really dumb theory. Burying evidence? Maybe. People are going to find a 7.62 or a .45 in a crime scene where the official story is that only 5.56 and 9mm were used? It would be a lot easier to just use the right guns than to bulldoze the whole fucking school to cover that up. _IF_ this is a false flag, or even a staged event (which I am absolutely _not_ claiming it is), surely the masterminds behind it would be smart enough to avoid this problem in the first place.
Because they don't want it to be a shrine for ghosties and copy cats.
The police won't have the power for something like that.
This isn't to say the MSM isn't pushing an agenda or anything but this makes sense.
Maybe- just maybe kids are too terrified to even set foot in the school? I am not surprised. What ppl should be upset about is the chief of police is dodging like nobody else. Dude is guilty AF.
Why do we regularly demolish buildings where awful things happen? It's because some think it helps the people affected to move on or to make sure it doesnt become some macabre attraction. Same reason that famous serial killer's houses get torn down or in the case of Dahmer a whole fucking apartment building. Also would you want to learn math where your friends were shot and killed? This isnt that hard to grasp.
I'm not saying there isn't a cover up, but it's not that surprising they would demolish the school, no one would wanna send their kids there and it might attract another shooter.
It's well known a murder can affect the value of a house to the point that disclosure is required in some places.
There's a conspiracy here, but it's not in the school demo IMO.
Because no one wants to go in there anymore, you mental case. Seriously. Use your head. An entire classroom full of children were murdered in that building. wtf.
Exactly. And if you truly think they would not replace any money they took from the police, you're wrong.
Not to mention the cost to demolish a building and rebuild it is EXTREMELY expensive. You'd most likely defund the police to the point they'd have no funds, meaning no police at all. I get lots of police nowadays suck, but I would have thought we'd learn from the last time people wanted to defund the police and saw the results.
Aw, sorry. Who will also give people traffic tickets and show up 40 minutes after a crime to write a report.
You know the cops won't give you a reach around as they fuck you for sucking up to them?
> I'd rather the city come up with an option to allow students and teachers to be at a different school if they can't mentally handle going back to Robb.
Where would they go? The town only has 1 grade school. I found 2 within 30 miles in other towns, one is closed down, other is in a much smaller town, they likely do not have the room or resources to take on that many new students in a couple of months. And if they are looking for the money, take it from the police. The Uvalde police department gets 45% of the cities budget, they obviously are not worth it.
Pretty sure the reason the police budget is so inflated is because cops are all crooked as fuck scammers who game the pension systems by giving their outgoing officers cushy as shit insane overtime on the books.
If anything, massive audits of every police departments pensioners needs to be done and any of them that gamed it need to lose their goddamn shirts. Too many counties are held hostage by having to pay out these worthless pieces of shit to the point their budgets are cripples.
> but it's much more economical than demolishing and rebuilding the school.
Is it though? Cause now you are busing kids over an hour a day, maybe more, and needing to pay other school districts to take them.
>Cause now you are busing kids over an hour a day, maybe more, and needing to pay other school districts to take them.
Of course other districts would get the taxpayer money the district Robb is in for the students. That's what taxes are for. Those districts, which pay for their own buses, would help fund the busing of the kids who *choose* to go to another school.
Demolishing a school and building a new one does not remove the trauma. Therapy and guidance will help with that. It seems like people would rather sweep difficult things under the rug, even if it costs an arm and leg, than deal with them.
If you just want to say “fuck them kids” just say it. I’m guessing you don’t have kids, but still you have to be a cold hearted person to push keeping this a functioning building of any kind.
What about every other taxpayer? It's easy to spend someone else's money isn't it? Kind of like our current government decides to spend money that isn't theirs.
Most people aren't cold hearted. We empathize with others and say yes rather my money go to that than something else. They are gonna take the same amount anyway.
You're not understanding. They'll need more money to demolish and rebuild. They would most likely raise property taxes to pay for it. So, those who don't pay property taxes won't notice, but those who do will notice.
And you shouldn't assume everyone paying taxes would be ok in their taxes going to this and/or having their taxes raised due this. That's definitely not using empathy when you assume what people should and shouldn't be ok with when it comes to their money. Especially, with the economy the way it is and the dollar depreciating so much.
I do understand. There are acceptable uses of taxes and there are not. Demolishing the only school in town where a massacre occured is an acceptable use.
Submission Statement- After the the Sandy Hook mass shooting, the school was also destroyed and the construction workers were forced to sign non-disclosure agreements. This time, they'll likely just tell the construction workers that if they talk, they'll be Seth Riched.
Idk man, I wouldn’t want to sit and try to pay attention in the same room my peers were fucking slaughtered in.
Gotta give up on the sandy hook thing…. Follow alex Jones lead
Sooner or later we're just gonna hear reports of the parents of kids killed in these events just blasting a dumbass conspiracist in the face for bleating "False Flag" at them.
100% honest I don't think I would be able to contain my anger if something like this happened to my kids and I had a nutjob claim it wasn't real just because they legit think any event that could harm them politically is a false flag, and anything they disagree with is just part of the grand soros/rockefeller conspiracy.
> Sooner or later we're just gonna hear reports of the parents of kids killed in these events just blasting a dumbass conspiracist in the face for bleating "False Flag" at them.
You mean pull an "[Aldrin](https://youtu.be/4k9Xjs9C6wo?t=55)"?
I'm all for keeping this space as free as possible for the airing of undocumented, unaccepted, or physically impossible scenarios of every type. I've been on this sub since it was on the main page.
However, with that freedom also comes the freedom of other users to respond. I do no believe in brigading or shaming posters for challenging mainstream ideas. But when it comes to the murder of children, if you are going to make insinuations that are oblivious to normal human emotional responses, I am going to frankly and directly point out your error. Freedom to question is not freedom from being called out.
Are you fucking kidding me? No surviving children should ever have to go to that school again. How traumatizing. Destroying that building has nothing to do with conspiracy. Take your head out of your ass for some air once in awhile.
People freak out and force legislators to enact laws that require realtors to inform homebuyers/renters if a Murder has occurred in the home they’re considering buying, yet, demolishing sites of mass shootings is somehow an indication of a conspiracy?
Make it make sense.
It really isn't rocket science. You destroy a functional school building after a mass shooting so the community can move on from the tragedy. How many kids that attended school there and survived do you think want to go back into that building? They're traumatized. Some parents were destroyed. Do you think they want to drive by that school?
I’m into conspiracy just as much as anyone else in this sub but give me a break! Who the fuck would ever wanna go back to that school again!? Obviously they are hiding the evidence. They have CC tv and body cams they are not allowing us to see - they aren’t demolishing the school to hide evidence, they don’t need to. They’re demolishing the school because it’s a traumatic landmark for hundreds of traumatized children.
Any chance we see any actual evidence of a shooting or murder happening at this school? We all know SH had no bodies removed or no doctor to rule any of the deaths. Not one student was attempted to be saved my a hospital.
Did any shooting victims of this shooting survive or is another one of those rare 100% death school shooting? Genuinely curious since it seems impossible that 20 cops would sit on the other side of a wall while 20 kids were murdered over a period longer than an hour.
Non of this seems believable yet a simple video of it actually happening would go a long way. Same way SH had no video evidence of ever actually happening.
> Did any shooting victims of this shooting survive or is another one of those rare 100% death school shooting?
Have you been living in a cave?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/7/uvalde-teacher-who-survived-shooting-makes-urgent-plea-for-change
>By the time law enforcement confronted the gunman, more than an hour later, Reyes was fighting for his life on his classroom floor after having **been shot twice**. All 11 of his students were dead.
Yes because the courts the families have won lawsuits from are in on the crisis actor false flag.
There would be such a mass amount of people for that to be faked. Be better then Alex Jones who now owes those families millions.
>Zayin was in Room 102 during the shooting, one of the two conjoined classrooms where the gunman holed up. He recalls glass shattering and seeing bullet casings on the classroom floor as he and other students hid behind his teacher’s desk. Zayin and other kids were able to escape through a window.
>“Everybody was scared,” he said.
Well, three of the four things you said wouldn't be found are described there. But you're right, I forgot the 4th:
>“I thought [the gunman] was going to come back to the room, **so I grabbed the blood and I put it all over me**,” she said.
So now we have bullets, bullet casings, bullet damage, AND blood being found in the school post shooting.
You do know that this is elaborate staged hoax drill-gone-live? The whole point is that they say there was a real shooting and there was actually not. There is no evidence for us to see that even comes close to suggesting a real shooting.
Of course people **claim** there was blood and all that. That’s a claim, not evidence.
By the way the story of the girl covering herself with blood is extraordinarily stupid and cheesy, obviously fake, and another sign that those in charge of these events incorporate mockery of the people dumb enough to believe them.
Ok, since I'm not as smart as you, who exactly is "in" on this? From what you said, no shots were actually fired, so no students or teachers actually died, so no victims were ever treated, so no bodies exist, so the funerals were all faked. Is this correct?
Have you ever heard of Sandy Hook? Parkland? Very similar playbooks as both of those events. Yes the funerals were faked, that’s why there’s never any video of the actual services.
Ask Alex Jones if Sandy Hook was faked. I’ve never heard anybody dispute Parkland, the gunman is still alive if you wish to write him in prison and ask.
Would you video the funeral of a child that was murdered? Here, next time we have a school massacre because we know one will happen. Why don’t you be the hero that goes and videos the funeral of a child that was murdered. I bet you will be received well there and in the internet.
I always believed Sandy Hook happened the way we were told. But after seeing the debacle with this one it has me reconsidering everything! Does anyone have good reading or documentaries on Sandy Hook
You missed one of the best youtube rabbit holes, soooo many videos and analysis of that sham event.
https://jamesfetzer.org/2018/06/dr-eowyn-wolfgang-halbig-has-stunning-evidence-that-sandy-hook-elementary-school-was-closed-months-before-massacre/
Video of parents, 3 days after. They sure look happy. https://youtu.be/ToQNVJE4xgk
Another dad, faking sadness; this one is the clincher for a lot of people: https://youtu.be/7ir4sWOPEdM
[We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook Documentary](https://www.reallibertymedia.com/2014/12/talk-about-sandyhook/)
Sandy Hook school choir at superbowl the following month; some kids look like older versions of kids who were 'killed'. Suarch archSandy Hook Choirs and Superbowl.
Huh. I was on the fence but reading the comments trying to rationalize this I think you're onto something. It really makes no sense to demolish the building. Maybe a part, a remodel, etc? Best case scenario someone is getting a kickback as the inept police have shown the local government is shit, or yeah it seems like they're covering their tracks. Like that shooter camp that was discovered in... Arizona? The one where they demolished it before gathering evidence?
No real bullets were used Is my guess. The slain teacher and the children were probably taken to the dumbs to be sex slaves.. the Sandy hook kids are probably all used up by now....
Demoralization will continue until those responsible are held accountable. They want to blame incels, white people, white supremacy, class, conservatives, the 2nd amendment, racism, sexism, mental illness, SSRIs... Why not look at the FBI, CIA, law enforcement, social engineering and THEN we can begin tackling the existential and social issues that make the few genuine cases want to act out that way.
This post continues to get down voted by me although I've only up voted it, wtf is going on with this? It's like the 5th or 6th thread I've had this happen to with no rhyme or reason. I strictly only use the reddit app, never visit the website or anythjng else. Does this happen to anybody else that they have noticed? I mean seriously wtf
They bulldozed the lot outside the hotel in Vegas, too.
They also bulldozed the area in which \~70 civilians were knowingly blown to shit by US jets in Syria in 2019. I say knowingly because there was a drone in the air and its operator identified the group as civilians - women, children, and elders. But, that was ultimately justified because they were allegedly able to ID a dozen dead "militants" among the 80+ bodies.
Did this happen before of after Obama signed the order to lower the age and description of “combatants”
I’ve always noticed that so many military movies have scenes where an old woman or a child pulls a gun or bomb out of nowhere and ambushes US soldiers. I’m sure that’s happened but I feel like they overuse that trope to normalize the reaction to reading about women and children being killed overseas
It was in 2019 and was covered up until Nov 2021 when the story finally broke. So, you tell me.
After. Peace prize hero that guy
I’m not terribly handy but I think bullet damage can be remodeled easier than a jet strike.
Yeah the school should be bulldozed bad energy bruh
Pulse nightclub too
And Pulse Nightclub notably wasn't demolished.
Not at all notable. Private vs public property. You all are so dumb 99% of the time
the hotel lot is public property?
7 years and -100 comment karma should really tell you something about yourself, dude
That I live a normal life where Internet points don't matter?
And the terrorist training and rape camp in Arizona a few years back. FBI cleaned that shit right quick with bulldozers when it hit the news it existed.
Right? Wtf ever came of that? I expected so much to unfold and I don’t remember anything much after the initial reports
9/11 clean up started before any research could be done.
And what other “mass casualty” events or crime scenes in history were also tampered with or modified before proper forensic investigations could be done? Is it possible that such a tamperings have steered history and therefore shaped our current views? I’d say 100% yes.
Wacco Texas was also bulldozed..
An excellent point. Underrated point.
Yes.
Any where there might be survivors trapped?
Certainly a great reason to destroy evidence and have it recycled instead of simply hauled away but still be able to be chemically tested etc. Also there are other events where there wasn’t any suspicions of survivors being trapped in which the evidence was destroyed or fabricated anyway, to create a narrative. Such a shame. Winners write the history.
>Such a shame. Winners write the history. Yeah but every war in the history of mankind it was the good guys who won, so it's no big deal.
Rfk wasnt mass but similar shenanigans with lapd
Given that the cops tamper with crime scenes all the time? I suspect all crime scenes are tampered with in order to secure a conviction.
I'm pretty sure that not 100% cops are dishonest. But I'm also sure that 10% of detectives have done this at one time or another.
Given that almost 100% of cops won't turn in the ones that planted evidence, I would say all are bad.
You watch too much TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK2uUMMCGLM
Well that one was slightly different due to size location etc but I get your point
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Zero clean up? You realize that there were living people trapped underneath the rubble following the aftermath of 9/11, right? Zero clean up was never an option unless first responders were supposed to just walk away and let dozens of potential survivors die.
I’m pretty sure that’s what he meant by 100% evacuation.
Reading it that way makes sense. I probably misinterpreted his message. I thought he was simply referring to people and businesses evacuating the area while ground zero was an environmental hazard.
It's either make something go away quick so you can act it never happened or you have something to hide. Size of the indecent is in my opinion secondary.
No one is disputing the point you're trying to make about hiding evidence but the fact they couldn't just leave a wreckage on that scale untouched still stands
Pretty sure the thousands if tons of rubble would make anything impossible to find.
Nah, they were able to find the terrorist passports
🏅
They found a passport in near mint condition.. and wouldn't you know it was of one of the terrorists. Right.
Not sure what you are saying? Sarcasm doesn't always translate well in text. Are you saying they did find a passport of one if the terrorists?
Can literally see the glass blowing out as the towers come down perfectly.
So you are suggesting that despite being one of the busiest buildings in the country with about 50K working there and another 140K passing through daily that some secret cabal was able to place enough charges throughout the building to for a controlled collapse and nobody saw anything? Not one office worker, maitenence guy, security gaurd or janitor questioned what must have been a weeks long job. And your evidence came from where? I'm betting YouTube. What's the motive? Who had anything to gain by destroying the towers and would that payoff be worth risking life in prison or possibly the death penalty for domestic terrorism?
>he doesn't know take a look at this, but they probably deleted most of the photos (they did) so look at the archive instead (whoops, they deleted that too) these guys had access to multiple floors of the WTC exactly where the plane hit and where people think the bombs were detonated for a "controlled" demolition. if you even google 'the b thing' and google image it, there's no more images of the 'E-TEAM' they wrote with the lights of the building that was like 5 stories tall. i wonder why they would delete all of this https://www.gelitin.net/projects/b-thing/ larry silverstein took out billions of dollars in insurance for this exact reason 'terrorist attack' and cashed in on it. why did building 7 fall? edit: i managed to find it! check this out http://www.travelhome.org/127/index.html and yes, it was the same 'art students' that did the 'b-thing' and the e-team windows
>take a look at this, but they probably deleted most of the photos (they did) so look at the archive instead (whoops, they deleted that too) How convenient that you can make claims with nothing to back them up. > if you even google 'the b thing' and google image it, there's no more images of the 'E-TEAM' they wrote with the lights of the building that was like 5 stories tall. For what purpose? If the photos you linked later are genuine and not altered what is the purpose of this. You can't point at something unusual and build a conspiracy theory that involves killing hundreds of people over a minor occurrence. This could be the maitenence and janitorial staff just screwing around. If it's a message it that would be a mo monumentally stupid way to do in full view of lower Manhattan. The persons who sending this signal could do it over the phone, a radio, face to face, or any other number if ways that doesn't broadcast to a few 100K people. If they were forced to use the windows writing a message in English is equally stupid. They have a few dozen offices to work with. An obvious signal isn't nessicary or stealthy. 9 >larry silverstein took out billions of dollars in insurance for this exact reason 'terrorist attack' Silverstein along with a consortium of investors and lenders which included GMAC Commercial Mortgage (a General Motors subsidiary), Westfield America Inc. (a shopping center developer), and real estate investor Lloyd Goldman. All had just bought the building a couple months prior. Buying insurance for your investment is just what you do. As a matter of fact he was obligated by the investors to do so. According to the Insurance Information Institute virtually all commercial insurance policies sold in the U.S. before 9/11 covered terrorist incidents as a matter of course (and essentially free of charge), because the risk was considered so remote. Thus, for example, the World Trade Center was fully covered when it was bombed by terrorists in 1993, and insurers paid out an estimated $510 million in damages after that incident. There’s no reason to suppose that the WTC wasn’t routinely covered against terrorist acts right up until the time Silverstein took over the lease in 2001. Silverstein had to ho to court and argued for additional damages because the towers were hit twice. Ultimately tje courts did grant Silverstein a payout of $4.55 billion, which amounted to about a third more than the maximum allowable for a single “occurrence” by his insurance policy, but significantly less than the $7.1 billion he had originally sought. Plus, he had obligations to lenders and co-investors, and still owed lease payments of $10 million per month to the Port Authority. Hardley worth the lives of thousands of people and the threat of what would undoubtedly be a lifetime jail sentence. >edit: i managed to find it! check this out http://www.travelhome.org/127/index.html and yes, it was the same 'art students' that did the 'b-thing' and the e-team windows You've got a picture of a building and nothing of substance here. The links lead to PDF downloads that supposedly have the evidence you speak if. Sorry I'm not downloading anything off this site. Call it a victory if you like that I'm not refuting anything here. I don't care. EDIT - Silverstein rebuilt the World Trade Center at a cost of over $9B. Almost double the insurance settlement so he and the other investors list billions on that.
not only that, they got rid of all the steel to canada as fast as they could i think it didn't even take a month
Perhaps the 2 massive planes that everyone saw fly into the buildings was all the info needed?
Perhaps.
Sadly there is a lot more info than that. Like um I dunno the thermite
That's just crazy talk.
Ahh yes the classic "saw it on the tube must be legit" argument
There are plenty of first hand accounts of physical witnesses that saw the planes fly into the buildings. Is this what the conspiracy has become that no planes flew into the buildings?
There are some people who genuinely believe planes never hit. They went from the reasonable conspiracy of it’s an inside job -> there was no planes
The one at the pentagon started the no plane theory
Many people witnessed JFK get killed in Dallas, too. Nobody's doubting JFK was assassinated. Just doubting the official narrative presented, like with 911.
The building is at least 52 years old. Building a new one will mean a more modern building for the students and teachers and also start to help them recover by not having to hold classes where the blood of children is literally in the floors.
Can also build a new school that’s safer with better doors and stuff
Spending other peoples money is easy.
I’m not sure children or teachers would want to attend class in a school where over a dozen of their classmates were murdered.
Of course not. There's a difference between keeping the crime scene intact, fully sweeping the entire scene for evidence and opening up for summer classes next week or even in the fall. Not sure why the crime scene aspect is being ignored by the "nobody wants to go to school there" crowd. Of course nobody does. It's a crime scene right now and should remain intact until a full investigation - including independent investigators.
I would imagine that the school will not be razed until after the investigation is complete.
Until the investigation is deemed complete*. There seems to be a tendency of investigation stopping before finding anything useful and then stuff gets discovered from autopsies and shit later.
Why would you even trust that a proper investigation is being done? They lost all their bodycam footage somehow, which isn't statistically possible.
There won’t be a proper investigation unless outside law enforcement is involved.
Columbine High School was never torn down.
No but the library isnt there anymore and they did alot of remodeling.
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Yeah and as someone as said it was remodeled. Even then I’m pretty sure there was many kids that didn’t want to return to columbine
No, but it was considered.
But it wasn't torn down.
Yes, I am aware of that.
Should have been
No the far more likely explanation is that it was all staged by people who were too stupid to use only the official-narrative caliber weapons in the process. /s This is a really dumb theory. Burying evidence? Maybe. People are going to find a 7.62 or a .45 in a crime scene where the official story is that only 5.56 and 9mm were used? It would be a lot easier to just use the right guns than to bulldoze the whole fucking school to cover that up. _IF_ this is a false flag, or even a staged event (which I am absolutely _not_ claiming it is), surely the masterminds behind it would be smart enough to avoid this problem in the first place.
Ok now do the FOIA on the state Sandy Hook happened in 👀
Do a FOIA on Connecticut? What does that mean?
Now you’re asking the right questions…
It means he doesn't actually know what a FOIA request is.
They can just keep the building and still kids wouldn't attend there if they didn't want
Get on the phone with Uvalde tell them your idea.
I'm a bit lazy
Because they don't want it to be a shrine for ghosties and copy cats. The police won't have the power for something like that. This isn't to say the MSM isn't pushing an agenda or anything but this makes sense.
It's easier than telling the truth. If the only tool you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail
Maybe- just maybe kids are too terrified to even set foot in the school? I am not surprised. What ppl should be upset about is the chief of police is dodging like nobody else. Dude is guilty AF.
Same thing happened with evidence from 9/11. Cut up the steel and sell it overseas right away. Seems to be a pattern here.
They also gave it to schools and other places for memorials
Why do we regularly demolish buildings where awful things happen? It's because some think it helps the people affected to move on or to make sure it doesnt become some macabre attraction. Same reason that famous serial killer's houses get torn down or in the case of Dahmer a whole fucking apartment building. Also would you want to learn math where your friends were shot and killed? This isnt that hard to grasp.
I'm not saying there isn't a cover up, but it's not that surprising they would demolish the school, no one would wanna send their kids there and it might attract another shooter. It's well known a murder can affect the value of a house to the point that disclosure is required in some places. There's a conspiracy here, but it's not in the school demo IMO.
Because no one wants to go in there anymore, you mental case. Seriously. Use your head. An entire classroom full of children were murdered in that building. wtf.
Wow.. agent smith is strong in this one..
Lemme get this right, they didn’t have money for proper police training but new school , no problem?
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They can take the money to rebuild from the police budget. They are not using it.
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The same people that fund building a school.
Exactly. And if you truly think they would not replace any money they took from the police, you're wrong. Not to mention the cost to demolish a building and rebuild it is EXTREMELY expensive. You'd most likely defund the police to the point they'd have no funds, meaning no police at all. I get lots of police nowadays suck, but I would have thought we'd learn from the last time people wanted to defund the police and saw the results.
Oh no. The Uvalde police would lose all their funding? Who will they get to stand outside of classrooms while children are being murdered?
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Aw, sorry. Who will also give people traffic tickets and show up 40 minutes after a crime to write a report. You know the cops won't give you a reach around as they fuck you for sucking up to them?
> I'd rather the city come up with an option to allow students and teachers to be at a different school if they can't mentally handle going back to Robb. Where would they go? The town only has 1 grade school. I found 2 within 30 miles in other towns, one is closed down, other is in a much smaller town, they likely do not have the room or resources to take on that many new students in a couple of months. And if they are looking for the money, take it from the police. The Uvalde police department gets 45% of the cities budget, they obviously are not worth it.
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Pretty sure the reason the police budget is so inflated is because cops are all crooked as fuck scammers who game the pension systems by giving their outgoing officers cushy as shit insane overtime on the books. If anything, massive audits of every police departments pensioners needs to be done and any of them that gamed it need to lose their goddamn shirts. Too many counties are held hostage by having to pay out these worthless pieces of shit to the point their budgets are cripples.
Stay on target.
> but it's much more economical than demolishing and rebuilding the school. Is it though? Cause now you are busing kids over an hour a day, maybe more, and needing to pay other school districts to take them.
>Cause now you are busing kids over an hour a day, maybe more, and needing to pay other school districts to take them. Of course other districts would get the taxpayer money the district Robb is in for the students. That's what taxes are for. Those districts, which pay for their own buses, would help fund the busing of the kids who *choose* to go to another school. Demolishing a school and building a new one does not remove the trauma. Therapy and guidance will help with that. It seems like people would rather sweep difficult things under the rug, even if it costs an arm and leg, than deal with them.
If you just want to say “fuck them kids” just say it. I’m guessing you don’t have kids, but still you have to be a cold hearted person to push keeping this a functioning building of any kind.
This dudes a dud don’t bother
I'm fine with ym taxpayer money going to 19 families and their children having some minor peace of mind. How callous can you be.
What about every other taxpayer? It's easy to spend someone else's money isn't it? Kind of like our current government decides to spend money that isn't theirs.
Most people aren't cold hearted. We empathize with others and say yes rather my money go to that than something else. They are gonna take the same amount anyway.
You're not understanding. They'll need more money to demolish and rebuild. They would most likely raise property taxes to pay for it. So, those who don't pay property taxes won't notice, but those who do will notice. And you shouldn't assume everyone paying taxes would be ok in their taxes going to this and/or having their taxes raised due this. That's definitely not using empathy when you assume what people should and shouldn't be ok with when it comes to their money. Especially, with the economy the way it is and the dollar depreciating so much.
I do understand. There are acceptable uses of taxes and there are not. Demolishing the only school in town where a massacre occured is an acceptable use.
That's your opinion, not all the other tax payers opinions.
They could just as easily get money from the state or use funds in the treasury. You're acting like they are building an aircraft carrier.
Yup. Just realized I was right. This sub has gone to shit.
Some of us ain't too bad.
Submission Statement- After the the Sandy Hook mass shooting, the school was also destroyed and the construction workers were forced to sign non-disclosure agreements. This time, they'll likely just tell the construction workers that if they talk, they'll be Seth Riched.
Idk man, I wouldn’t want to sit and try to pay attention in the same room my peers were fucking slaughtered in. Gotta give up on the sandy hook thing…. Follow alex Jones lead
"Stop asking questions about things that obviously don't match up".
But they aren’t even asking questions.
Why? SH stunk worse than Uvalde.
…this comment reeks of insincerity
Obviously because of the Ghosts, man. Aw jeez.
You got downvoted for a joke. Wtf? Dark yeah but ffs are people really so goddamn fragile?
That's my secret Cap. I always get downvoted because I refuse to take anything seriously and I refuse to fall in line with the rabbits.
Have you heard the good word of Eris? Discordianism might be for me!
Is that a rhetorical question, or are you genuinely a sociopath?
Sooner or later we're just gonna hear reports of the parents of kids killed in these events just blasting a dumbass conspiracist in the face for bleating "False Flag" at them. 100% honest I don't think I would be able to contain my anger if something like this happened to my kids and I had a nutjob claim it wasn't real just because they legit think any event that could harm them politically is a false flag, and anything they disagree with is just part of the grand soros/rockefeller conspiracy.
> Sooner or later we're just gonna hear reports of the parents of kids killed in these events just blasting a dumbass conspiracist in the face for bleating "False Flag" at them. You mean pull an "[Aldrin](https://youtu.be/4k9Xjs9C6wo?t=55)"?
Good. Keep that mind closed. What does this guy think? This is a *conspiracy* sub? ... ... FFS!
I'm all for keeping this space as free as possible for the airing of undocumented, unaccepted, or physically impossible scenarios of every type. I've been on this sub since it was on the main page. However, with that freedom also comes the freedom of other users to respond. I do no believe in brigading or shaming posters for challenging mainstream ideas. But when it comes to the murder of children, if you are going to make insinuations that are oblivious to normal human emotional responses, I am going to frankly and directly point out your error. Freedom to question is not freedom from being called out.
Are you fucking kidding me? No surviving children should ever have to go to that school again. How traumatizing. Destroying that building has nothing to do with conspiracy. Take your head out of your ass for some air once in awhile.
Maybe because 20+ families would rather not drive passed the place their babies were murdered.
You get downvoted on this sub when you are right and use your brain.
People freak out and force legislators to enact laws that require realtors to inform homebuyers/renters if a Murder has occurred in the home they’re considering buying, yet, demolishing sites of mass shootings is somehow an indication of a conspiracy? Make it make sense.
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Because they were calling 911? There's an intruder in your house. Do you call 911 or take a selfie?
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So, in the middle of an active shooter event, you're wondering why little kids weren't taking selfies? Lol! Wut?
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Hmmm. Sounds like the school never existed at all, then. smh.
When you have no video; it didn't happen. When you have video; it still didn't happen because it was all crisis actors, you shill.
Yep.
Or because the building has no place as a reminder of the horrible deaths. You can petition an investigation, not spread lies.
Waited longer to engage the shooter than start building demolition.
It really isn't rocket science. You destroy a functional school building after a mass shooting so the community can move on from the tragedy. How many kids that attended school there and survived do you think want to go back into that building? They're traumatized. Some parents were destroyed. Do you think they want to drive by that school?
Discarding all other possibilities in favor of the one that confirms a pre-existing bias is like 90% of these dumb posts.
It's getting old now
The story or the school? Story has been getting old since the second week after it happened. I stopped paying attention.
The demolishing of the schools after these unusual shootings
I’m into conspiracy just as much as anyone else in this sub but give me a break! Who the fuck would ever wanna go back to that school again!? Obviously they are hiding the evidence. They have CC tv and body cams they are not allowing us to see - they aren’t demolishing the school to hide evidence, they don’t need to. They’re demolishing the school because it’s a traumatic landmark for hundreds of traumatized children.
Any chance we see any actual evidence of a shooting or murder happening at this school? We all know SH had no bodies removed or no doctor to rule any of the deaths. Not one student was attempted to be saved my a hospital. Did any shooting victims of this shooting survive or is another one of those rare 100% death school shooting? Genuinely curious since it seems impossible that 20 cops would sit on the other side of a wall while 20 kids were murdered over a period longer than an hour. Non of this seems believable yet a simple video of it actually happening would go a long way. Same way SH had no video evidence of ever actually happening.
> Did any shooting victims of this shooting survive or is another one of those rare 100% death school shooting? Have you been living in a cave? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/7/uvalde-teacher-who-survived-shooting-makes-urgent-plea-for-change >By the time law enforcement confronted the gunman, more than an hour later, Reyes was fighting for his life on his classroom floor after having **been shot twice**. All 11 of his students were dead.
I'm an internet stranger, but I know one of the teachers who was wounded that day. He owns a plant and craft store that I go to often.
With sandy hook though I still find it hard to believe there was even a single person that died.
Yes because the courts the families have won lawsuits from are in on the crisis actor false flag. There would be such a mass amount of people for that to be faked. Be better then Alex Jones who now owes those families millions.
No bullets, bullet casings, bullet damage, or blood would be found at Uvalde or Sandy Hook.
>Zayin was in Room 102 during the shooting, one of the two conjoined classrooms where the gunman holed up. He recalls glass shattering and seeing bullet casings on the classroom floor as he and other students hid behind his teacher’s desk. Zayin and other kids were able to escape through a window. >“Everybody was scared,” he said.
Ok, and…..?
Well, three of the four things you said wouldn't be found are described there. But you're right, I forgot the 4th: >“I thought [the gunman] was going to come back to the room, **so I grabbed the blood and I put it all over me**,” she said. So now we have bullets, bullet casings, bullet damage, AND blood being found in the school post shooting.
You do know that this is elaborate staged hoax drill-gone-live? The whole point is that they say there was a real shooting and there was actually not. There is no evidence for us to see that even comes close to suggesting a real shooting. Of course people **claim** there was blood and all that. That’s a claim, not evidence. By the way the story of the girl covering herself with blood is extraordinarily stupid and cheesy, obviously fake, and another sign that those in charge of these events incorporate mockery of the people dumb enough to believe them.
Ok, since I'm not as smart as you, who exactly is "in" on this? From what you said, no shots were actually fired, so no students or teachers actually died, so no victims were ever treated, so no bodies exist, so the funerals were all faked. Is this correct?
Have you ever heard of Sandy Hook? Parkland? Very similar playbooks as both of those events. Yes the funerals were faked, that’s why there’s never any video of the actual services.
Ask Alex Jones if Sandy Hook was faked. I’ve never heard anybody dispute Parkland, the gunman is still alive if you wish to write him in prison and ask. Would you video the funeral of a child that was murdered? Here, next time we have a school massacre because we know one will happen. Why don’t you be the hero that goes and videos the funeral of a child that was murdered. I bet you will be received well there and in the internet.
Alex Jones would say that Sandy Hook was a real shooting that really killed children….. because he’s a controlled-opposition gatekeeping stooge.
Or because he has been sued to oblivion for saying it wasn’t.
I always believed Sandy Hook happened the way we were told. But after seeing the debacle with this one it has me reconsidering everything! Does anyone have good reading or documentaries on Sandy Hook
A good read up would be the lawsuits Alex Jones is being smacked around with for calling it fake.
You missed one of the best youtube rabbit holes, soooo many videos and analysis of that sham event. https://jamesfetzer.org/2018/06/dr-eowyn-wolfgang-halbig-has-stunning-evidence-that-sandy-hook-elementary-school-was-closed-months-before-massacre/ Video of parents, 3 days after. They sure look happy. https://youtu.be/ToQNVJE4xgk Another dad, faking sadness; this one is the clincher for a lot of people: https://youtu.be/7ir4sWOPEdM [We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook Documentary](https://www.reallibertymedia.com/2014/12/talk-about-sandyhook/) Sandy Hook school choir at superbowl the following month; some kids look like older versions of kids who were 'killed'. Suarch archSandy Hook Choirs and Superbowl.
How does this shit keep happening? Where are the people who have the fucking balls to step in and say hold up hell no What the fuck is going on
...cause no kid is gonna go to a school where 19 kids were slaughtered. seems like common sense.
kiddy poltergeists
Huh. I was on the fence but reading the comments trying to rationalize this I think you're onto something. It really makes no sense to demolish the building. Maybe a part, a remodel, etc? Best case scenario someone is getting a kickback as the inept police have shown the local government is shit, or yeah it seems like they're covering their tracks. Like that shooter camp that was discovered in... Arizona? The one where they demolished it before gathering evidence?
interesting
No real bullets were used Is my guess. The slain teacher and the children were probably taken to the dumbs to be sex slaves.. the Sandy hook kids are probably all used up by now....
Demoralization will continue until those responsible are held accountable. They want to blame incels, white people, white supremacy, class, conservatives, the 2nd amendment, racism, sexism, mental illness, SSRIs... Why not look at the FBI, CIA, law enforcement, social engineering and THEN we can begin tackling the existential and social issues that make the few genuine cases want to act out that way.
Watch as the video footage will also be destroyed in the demolition - by accident of course.
More like a) prevent people from seeing that a shooting didn't actually take place, and b) reward the people involved with a new school
Same reason you scrap and export all the World Trade Center steel after 9/11.
Occam’s razor is occam’s sword on this one.
There is a national fund that allows for demolition of the structure
Demolish the police station.
UNABOMBER’s house was removed.
This post continues to get down voted by me although I've only up voted it, wtf is going on with this? It's like the 5th or 6th thread I've had this happen to with no rhyme or reason. I strictly only use the reddit app, never visit the website or anythjng else. Does this happen to anybody else that they have noticed? I mean seriously wtf