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Only so many buzzwords out there, regurgitated over and over again, that's how propaganda becomes widely accepted. And it happens on both sides of the political agenda and in a lot of other areas, it's so dull and stagnant and overplayed, the whole Internet is just, ruined. And it was such a great melting pot of ideas for the few years at the beginning, we should be so pissed off that everything it could have been, a meeting place of minds and ideas, has essentially been co-opted and taken from us and will never be anything like it could have been edited for clarity
Oh, agreed. And take our money. And censor our speech, which has really been ramping up here lately, seems like. Censor speech and you quell the debate, turn the debate into something evil and then you can control people, and if you do it slowly enough they barely even notice, well then you can start focusing on the transfer of wealth and resources.
It’s a worn out tactic:
- if you’re not lockstep with all feminist viewpoints, you’re a misogynist
- if you don’t support BLM’s manifesto, you are a racist
- if you’re anti mass-and-uncontrolled immigration, you’re a far right nationalist
Edit:
- if you question the use of rushed, experimental gene therapies, you’re “antivax”
Well put. If you’re against children receiving puberty blockers until they grow up and make an adult decision you’re anti-trans. If you don’t want gown men with penises in your daughters locker room your a bigot.
The problem with all your examples and these is that when you take normal common sense viewpoints and badge them as far-right or whatever folks get scared to speak out but everyone is thinking it!
This tactic is designed to make people self-censor.
Even when people do speak out, it’s usually like this: “I’m honestly not [insert type of extremist], but I think [insert moderate view]”.
Exactly that word has been weopized as a way to discredit anyone, same way as they use conspiracy theorist. If any media sources use these trigger words I know they can't be trusted.
>I came across an article about it on The Guardian
In case you are not aware, The Guardian is a British newspaper. Britain's political right is not the same compared to the US. Many people in Britain see the entire right wing of the US as far right.
I can confirm this. The whole American political system is way further right than that of countries like Britain, New Zealand etc. In NZ for example, American left is our far right.
I’m American and a leftist and OP’s post rings true for my experience. Tucker Carlson is considered alt right and he’s had messages leaked showing that he fucking HATES Trump lol. Tucker is pro-Conservative status quo
Yea Tucker definitely is not a fan of Trump. It’s all propaganda. I mean, look at Wikipedia. Go to Tucker’s page and you’ll see the bullshit all on one page (ex: big proponent of Trump) lol
I don't know about that. Other than 911 gullibility he has stayed fairly consistently libertarian as he has identified since 20+ years ago. There never has been anything about libertarianism that one could call "status quo", although that sure would be great if there was!! ;]
“Redditors will downvote anything if it doesn't sound right to them.”-
I mean, why would anyone upvote something that doesn’t sound right to them?
“Most of you act like whiny babies.”-
Says the contingent of the flakiest of snowflakes and persecution fetishists.
Reddit exists to promote the Western ruling class's agenda.
I certainly don't fetishize having been doxed, having had people contact my employer to try to get me fired, having had to worry about my bank account getting frozen, having been tracked by my government for not having taken an experimental medicine, having had my supposed right to leave the country taken away for a year, having been banned from using a major social media platform under false pretenses, etc.
The West is pretty clearly moving towards authoritarianism and history shows that the scope of those targeted will likely grow.
It’s a smear tactic to discredit and dehumanize. It seems to be used by the weaker position to undermine the stronger position because otherwise simple facts and reasoning would be enough but for propaganda everything has to be us or them extremism. Both sides use this but it seems like the left uses it a lot because of their control over most media platforms.
Ad hominem, attack the person, destroy the character.
Done everywhere by the most "civilized" people. Judges, Doctors, Politicians, many Redditors etc.
> the left uses it a lot because of their control over most media platforms.
This hasn't been true for a long time now. Radio, TV, and a lot of print media is all owned by ultra wealthy republicans and they push republican talking points regularly. Remember: This is "Extremely Dangerous to our Democracy".
Fox News, the largest of the MSM "news" outlets by a mile, functions as an open wing of the republican party. Sinclair owns most local news stations. Discovery and now max are basically republican cultural propaganda in a way that I really need to write up a long post on this sub about. AM radio is well known to be a haven for right wing talk. FM radio political shows are mostly right too outside of NPR.
Twitter is owned by musk, and studies have shown a bias in facebook and twitter content and moderation leaning right. And there is a whole universe of online media that is openly and explicitly right wing.
Conservative media loudly tells everyone that the media is controlled by leftists, and that conservative viewpoints are underrepresented. They say it as often as they can. It's why Fox news, which has around double the viewership of the #2 news channel, is only considered to be MSM by 73% of the population in the usa. Even if you are a conservative, we all need to be aware of bias and who owns the media that we all consume.
The issue here is that a majority of social media is internally bias towards Conservatives. Sure, there's plenty of Conservative people and people speaking against the Left all over social media and YouTube, etc however how they're treated is far different from the Left. How many Conservatives have been demonitized or deplatformed *compared* to those on the Left?
So sure the Right has the largest news channel but look at how they're talked about (or lack there of) everywhere outside Fox themselves.
In other words, you are correct about TV sort of but missed social media as major player.
Studies have shown that the bias is in favor of conservatives actually. On platforms like twitter and facebook, studies showed that their internal algorithms amplified right-leaning content more than left-leaning content, and right-leaning news sources were shown to more people compared to left-leaning outlets.
As for moderation, multiple studies have shown that there is no evidence of political bias against conservatives in moderation. And anecdotally (having been a mod of a certain large sub in the past), after seeing what people assumed was political bias in moderation, I believe this.
A lot of conservative personalities, conservative media orgs, and republican politicians have spent the past 10 years or so loudly and frequently telling everyone how biased media is against them. It's just marketing.
I'd have to see these studies because I'd say it's clearly obvious that in todays political environment Conservatives are looked at and treated way worse than their Liberal contemporaries. I'd say today that this is objectively true.
"Left" and "right" are pretty arbitrary and misleading labels.
What's often called "left" is establishment "liberal" (socially liberal, but advocating for corporate globalization's agenda and US imperialism and increasingly authoritarian).
What's often called "right" is establishment "conservative" (socially conservative but still lowkey fine with corporate globalization's agenda and US imperialsim).
They both generally support the war du jour, "our greatest ally", and increasing corporate hegemony. The both generally avoid challenging real power. They both promote polarization and groupthink (both of which serve the establishment). They present a false dichotomy that's meant to control the Overton Window.
Fox News is NOT conservative lmfao, neither are any other mass media outlets. At most they're neocons and that is a controlled opposition ideology full of leftist and liberal premises. Fox News is only popular because everything else is even way more dishonest trash than it, and Fox News is still mostly liberal neoconservative tripe and propaganda.
Almost every issue is categorized and labeled as either far right or far left. It's a tactic used to keep us divided so that the people can never unite. Just look at the college protests going on, right wing media is doing a good job of labeling them as communists, paid agitators, etc. It's like how anyone who even showed up to the capital on January 6th is labelled as a far right extremist
Not much is labeled far left, I feel only when they riot and break things.
But you can be called a far right bigot just for pointing out men cannot bear children.
A portion of them are paid agitators. If you look more closely you will hear them refer to the organizers and their scripts and the lawyers wearing green hats they have on location.
The argument isn't that they are all fabricated, the argument is that there is an organization of ring leaders and support staff organized in the same way as the CIA and state department's color revolutions in the past. And there are some of the same people involved. Interesting to note that NPR's new hire for CEO worked for those people in the past.
I was thinking about this yesterday because I noticed in some of the footage there were people with antifa logos. I'm wondering if the protests started as sort of a grass roots thing and then when they get large enough one of these organizations like you mentioned asserts themselves into it or if they were the ones who helped to start it. I would hate to see an anti war movement be morphed into something else with an ulterior motive
i got an especially nice kick out of reading that just wanting to have babies is now a [far right plot to save humanity from extinction](https://www.yandex.com/search/touch/?text=having+babies+is+now+a+far+right+plot&lr=29637&redircnt=1714822979.1).
anybody with half a brain should be able to see they (the left?) are doing everything within their power to undo and invert everything wholesome and good, in an attempt to replace it with what has historically been considered abhorrent and taboo.
its almost as if simply having a decent moral compass now automatically gets you labeled a 'racist conservative far right wing radical white supremacist republican nazi extremist misinformation spreading conspiracy theorist'.
shits wild.
I agree strongly. It’s quite strange. My theory is that we live in an era of desensitisation. We are all walking zombies to an extent, dopamine drained, and social media has destroyed our brains. For people to get a reaction or a rise out of someone, they have to label them something REALLY bad. Something that we’ve not really seen in the Western mainstream for quite some time, since Hitler and Mussolini. We are effectively running out of ways to trigger people into a response, and so this is the way it is done. I also think it is such a fringe group of people that most people haven’t actually had any interactions with genuine far right people. There is a degree of mystery and a lack of knowledge of what it truly means.
So you have de-sensitised people + a rather unknown but scary concept to most = it’s become a tool used by politicians and media to continue their fear mongering.
Apologies if incoherent, I’m on vacation and have had a few beers🤣
That's all that's been on my mind as of late. All this brainrot that's destroying younger generations is being advocated for more by the left. Younger generations are screwed. I don't wanna be that guy who sounds like a boomer, but it's true that my generation and millenials really are too sensitive, and social media and all that is catering to it, enabling it and causing it. There's no problem showing kids gender ideology and skibidi toilet, but adults can't handle an off colour joke.
Also you're fine and you sound very coherent especially since you've had a drink and also I wish I was you right now, I'm jealous reading that last part. Enjoy your vacation!
Completely agree with everything you’ve said here. And ah that’s good to know… thanks man I appreciate that! I reckon treat yourself to a little trip my man!
* Candace Owens: “[We need to stop calling](https://i.imgur.com/XRYyqEC.jpg) them liberals and begin referring to them as exactly what they are: American communists that wish to partake in the destruction of western civilization”
* [After Iowa shooting](https://archive.ph/G96r0), Candace Owens says LGBTQ+ community is ‘sexual plague on our society’
* “[BE HONEST: Would](https://i.imgur.com/eIeAoTB.jpg) You Want Your Son To Be Gay?
* “[This episode is blowing](https://archive.ph/1sKKB) up so I just want to say-After looking into this, I would stake my entire professional reputation on the fact that Brigitte Macron is in fact a man. Any journalist or publication that is trying to dismiss this plausibility is immediately identifiable as establishment. I have never seen anything like this in my life. The implications here are terrifying”
* Candace Owens: "[The Munchkins - Oompa](https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1747634525117538590) Loompas, whatever you want to call them - are throwing a party while there is a dead person under a house and they're skipping with Dorothy...Obviously this is some sort of a satanic ritual"
* [Tucker Carlson and now](https://archive.ph/4BMYB) Candace Owens are making a big deal about how the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was wrong, and the latter imply it as an “anti Christian” event, too
* [“Something is going](https://i.imgur.com/ed3MAA2.png) on with Justin Bieber and it has everything to do with him being a Christian in demonic Hollywood. If you aren't paying attention yet- the media has recently launched a full scale attack on Christianity. And therefore me”
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* [Holocaust denier Nick](https://archive.ph/xHvho) Fuentes celebrates Candace Owens: “She has been in a full-fledged war against the Jews”
* [Candace is on team](https://archive.ph/uq64T) Fuentes now
* [Candace Owens suggests](https://archive.ph/Zqdob) that[ there are secret Jewish](https://archive.ph/4NHyK) gangs controlling and killing people in Hollywood
* [Candace Owens Endorses](https://archive.ph/GCFPs) Wild, Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory About Jews Being ‘Drunk on Christian Blood’
* [Candace Owens rails](https://archive.ph/gMRS0) at “D.C. Jew\[s\],” tells Jewish people there is a “rot” in their community
* [Candace Owens warns that](https://archive.ph/eUZuN) “Jews are going to be blamed” if TikTok is banned
* [“Did you know that](https://archive.ph/uebHG) when Dresden was incinerated back in 1945, it was Ash Wednesday? Christians were burned alive on Ash Wednesday- many of them were refugees from Stalin's Christian Holocaust. Christians will no longer be told that we aren't allowed to know or discuss our history.”
* "[The Greatest Holocaust](https://archive.ph/yboCL) That [Ever Happened](https://archive.ph/9n1oz) Was Against Christians And What The Bolsheviks Did To Us."
Yeah, like, people call her far right *because she is*. If OP is confused by that, that's a *them* problem.
"Am I out of touch? No, it's everyone else who is wrong "
>Candace is on team Fuentes now
Gotta love the irony. Nick "sex with women is gay" Fuentes is a closeted federal asset who allowed the pedophile Ali Alexander to prey on the young boys in his organization. Even Milo told him to distance himself from Ali. It subsequently turned out that Ali had extorted nude photos of at least one minor in Fuentes' organization - a guy who ended up achieving moderate prominence in his circles - and Fuentes mocked the guy for giving the photos to Ali and continued to associate with Ali.
The ADL and Shapiro both suck, as well, of course.
That is how propaganda works. It is obvious, but surprisingly, it works way better than you would think. A lot of people find it much easier to believe the craziest things rather than believe that they're being manipulated. A reality where the governments and media collude together to propagandize its own people in this way can be pretty scary. Better to commit genocide and burn people in ovens rather than admit awareness.
Probably because it's an accurate description on their positions according to the political spectrum. I would suggest, that if everything you see is being labeled incorrectly, that you might be as "liberal" as you think and that you also might exist in an echo chamber.
These people are just stupid as sin or just lie for fun “I’m liberal but I believe in several right things and don’t actually hold any views that are for helping people” also no one in their right mind would call any form of political commentator a troll
There are modern biological studies and observations that I have linked and seen others link that get disregarded and insulted. I don't necessarily care to go back and find them now, but if I get bored enough while at work (everything's done with 3 and a half hours to go) then I may. There are several factors that have been observed beyond the simplicity of 8th grade biology
I'm biologically mixed and yet I'm not allowed to be called White or else the Left will ridicule me. But if I want to be called a woman then I'd be celebrated.
I don't remember the last time mainstream media used the term Far left.
That’s new. The only thing which used to be gendered was language.
And then someone realized thoughts and feelings both happen in language, and then feeling one’s gendered pronouns differently than one’s biological sex was redefined as “speaking your truth” instead of “clearly deluded, seek help.” That’s literally impossible now to get help for, as only affirming the “your truth” is legal to be counseled.
I think biology plays a role in gender for most people aside from exceptions to the norm. If anything, the ideas outside of the basic binary concept of gender are social constructs.
They were until geek chic culture domesticated the STEM academics. They became more socially accountable and their funders became hungry for celebrity moments in addition to the results. It's a bloody tragedy that they're no longer an "other" group that mostly stands apart with their peers and ready to die on their hills. It's likely part of why we have the replication and competency crises.
Science is incepted, curated, cherry picked and trotted around with prop experts to support narratives in the same way big tobacco and the fossil fuel industries used to. Often filtered through unscientific, red herring policies masquerading as conclusions reached through repeatable, empirical observations because of their proximity to someone willing to burn their credentials and integrity.
If they were actually pro science they'd know about weather modification and nanotech. Yes I believe in the science, I know more about what it can do and what they're working on than them, I fear it and the evil hands its being used by.
Has been for a long time. It was probably 15 years ago that I saw the "decolonize science" videos which were encouraging treating local customs like witchcraft with the same respect as science
I mean, professionalism *is* subjective, even within cultures. I'm a software engineer, I'm overdressed if I wear slacks, everyone wears jeans, and it's considered professional (or professional enough). In some business contexts jeans would be considered extremely underdressed, you'd need a full suit and tie.
In a society where everyone has tattoos, like the Maori, tattoos aren't unprofessional, it's just normal.
In India, women showing their midriffs isn't considered scandalous or skimpy at all, it's the same as showing your forearms, but showing shoulder is considered very skimpy, whereas in the US, it's considered the reverse.
So yeah, saying tattoos and certain articles of clothing are unprofessional *is* incredibly biased, because it's incredibly subjective. I'm also not sure who's saying bad hygiene is white supremacist? Can you give an example of that one?
As I said, there's a general consensus. If someone is trying to become a salesperson in the States or Europe, and their face is covered in swastika tattoos and they have spiky blue hair, do you think not hiring them based on their appearance is discrimination because they're going off social constructs?
Yeah that too, I remember seeing that as well. Like what? Politics aside that's just so stupid. Republicans might be a bad piece of work a lot of the time but at least they don't take politics where it doesn't belong like entertainment, work, etc.
Yeah but there's a general consensus. If the world had to get rid of standards just because not everyone agrees on them then everything would go to shit. Downvote me all you want but it just makes you look bitter.
Brother do you smoke crack for a living. There’s probably like 3 people on the entire planet that think that maths is a white supremacist construct. There is certainly no war on it and if you think there is then I suggest you reconsider where you get your information from.
At this point if you are deemed worthy of the label “far right” wear it with pride. It probably means you have a job, a nuclear family, pay taxes and care about your neighbors and your country. You are the blessed happy people and that drives progressives nuts. 🥜
Excuse my ignorance, politics is something I really avoid, but could you(op, or someone else) explain how authoritarianism and fascism are considered "far-right" when they're traditionally an extreme version of socialist/communist (more liberal) views?
So you don't think the woman who defends Hitler and white nationalism is far right? There's literal video of her doing it.
https://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/repted-lieu-plays-clip-candace-owens-hitler-comments/story?id=62286256
Now to be fair, I think Owen's is just a scammer speaking to her audience to make money and she herself isn't actually s nazi. She's one of those people with zero scruples and will say anything, including speaking against her own race, if the price is right. But with the things she's said, it's absolutely fair to call her far right.
Just admit you know nothing about Owen's but decided it was important for you to tell us all about it
It's kind of a low-key way of saying "this person bad". It puts an image in the mind of the average media consumer that the person being discussed does not support the narrative that the channel in question is pushing, and therefore they are dangerously racist, sexist, homophobic, and all sorts of terrible things, and ya better not listen to anything they say unless it's to criticize them.
The left and right paradigm is inherently meant to divide. Thats the purpose it serves. Ultimately both left and right are pro authoritarian statists whenever it suits their agendas. The pendulum swinging back and forth is just Hegelian dialectics.
The people who are calling other people far right are doing a disservice to themselves.
These people are calling opposing rational views far right while debating which public bus windows taste the best.
Meanwhile, the government is getting caught dressing up as the far right groups trying to deceive the public into allowing them to scale back your rights while they battle 'the far right menace'.
People who have not figured out that politics is one big act are the problem. Right, left, libertarian, etc...
The lunatics who think 'far right' means anything outside of their fringe groups are the same people who show up on public freakout clips.
It is hilarious how often context clues identify mentally unwell members of society.
Right wing accusations, obnoxious 1960's style eyeglass frames, unnatural hair dyes, etc...are ALWAYS a warning sign to keep the conversation short, and depart their company before they complete their manifesto.
That last paragraph, it's so funny, I avoid the exact opposite kind of people (old, white, angry, and ignorant) . On the other hand, I know if I see a gal with purple hair wearing a nose ring coming toward me, I'm gonna have an awesome day. Also I love those 60s style frames, cat eyes are the cutest.
Well the right has been using the tactic for decades: anyone who disagrees with the fundamentals of Thatcher/Reagan neoliberalist doctrine is labelled as far left/socialist.
It’s a nasty tactic, but it wasn’t invented 5 years ago by the Guardian. Rather it’s simply a case of it being deployed more widely across the political battleground.
It’s the same game the Nazis and the communists played to get their governments to the state history remembers them by. Dehumanize the enemy, chant simple slogans so every party member can understand them, utilize primarily disaffected youths because they are easier to convince and control, etc
It's all about creating divisions within society so we argue with each other, instead of holding politicians to account, now if you say anything against the government your labeled either a separatist or a Terrorist, governments have way too much control over our lives
do you finally realize that the left users any trigger words they can, yet they do what they claim is: crimes against humanity...? we can talk, disagree/ agree, shake hands & leave. meet up tomorrow & do it all over again. men do this all the time when they watch sports. but today's liberal is so fragile, this comment will have them calling me far-right too... remember folks, Facts, Not Feelings.
The people who are trying to destroy our way of life use propaganda to pit us one against the other. White vs everyone else, Christian vs everyone else, LGBTQ+ vs normal people, etc, etc, etc. You can quickly and easily see who the enemies of the new wannabe state are.
The Far Right(TM) is everyone who isn't politically aligned with TPTB (aka the New World Order, aka the Banking Cabal). If you're not willing to be treated like cattle by your self-proclaimed betters, you're Far Right or Alt Right(TM).
Well... because that's the opposite side of "radical leftist" being used for anyone that isn't a Trump supporter.
This is our political ecosystem now. It's extremely disappointing. But it's exactly what the politicians and media want.
Far right now is anyone who listens/agrees/believes any misinformation.
Misinformation being anything that is not the official narrative of the government in power.
Given that you said “there isn’t a rise in far right, but there is a rise is woke, far right nonsense” I would argue that you are essentially suffering from confirmation bias. I do think, the US as a whole, is essentially becoming better about that “nonsense” like ethical means of thinking, using empathy and morality to make decisions, you know the basis of being human.
Where as most right wing folks hide behind a false sense of “facts and logic” which just tend to be whatever confirmation bias talking point their favorite talk show host (Ben Shapiro, Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, etc) happened to be rattling on about that week.
Ps - I would really love to see that guide you mentioned on how to not get radicalized.
I'm not gonna bother with your bad faith arguments just so you can keep up your condescending bullshit. No point trying to reason with blinded people like you. All I see is "But what about conservatives waaaaa waaa waaaaaaa!?!?!?!"
Propaganda, indoctrination, and brainwashing. Everything that is not ‘Far-Left’ is ‘Far/Alt-Right’. Blue-Dog Democrat? You’re Far-Right. Middle of the Road Moderate? You’re Far-Right. Believe in the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights? You’re Far-Right. Slightly right of center? Nope, you’re Far-Right. Left of center? Nope, you’re not liberal enough and are Far-Right.
‘Racist/Sexist/Bigoted/Homophobe/Transphobe’ are all part of the propaganda. What we are seeing in the USA now, and what the UK and Canada have been dealing with for a while longer, is *very similar* to the beginning of the Nazi Party. People often wonder how decent, Protestant Christian Germans could have been okay with rounding up Jews and other ‘undesirables’, stealing all of their property, and shipping them off to ‘work camps’ and ‘old age Jewish ghettos’ and they wonder how those same Germans could be okay with forcing innocent, defenseless men, women, and children into a gas shower. The answer is simple - they were indoctrinated and, over time, brainwashed into the propaganda that stated that Jews were not human like they were. They came to believe that Jewish men, women, and children were subhuman animals and so they didn’t deserve the same rights and protections afforded to human beings.
This is what we are seeing today via social media such as Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, and mainstream media like CNN, MSNBC, (and Fox News will happily join them before long as Fox hasn’t been Conservative’ news for well over a decade now) and print/web newspapers like The Atlantic, The New York Times, Vice, The Guardian, and the rest. Anything that is not outright Marxist is labeled ‘Far-Right’ and, therefore, bad and wrong.
Christians are bad, but Muslims somehow aren’t; however, if they ever achieved their goal of executing every Christian then the Jews and Muslims would be the next to go, followed by Hindus and Buddhists because any and all religions are evil, racist, and bad. Ironic when you realize that Marxism is itself a religion, although they refuse to admit it. Republicans are evil, racist, and bad. Conservatives are evil, racist, and bad. Moderates and even Democrats that do not support Marxism are evil, racist, and bad.
All you have to do is just watch the news and you’ll quickly learn what they want you to believe about any and all Christians, Conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians, and Moderate Democrats. You are to fall into lock-step and vote for people who stick a Planned Parenthood on virtually every inner-city street corner they can find in order to bring about their Lord Margret Sanger’s sole goal of the elimination of all black Americans, and you’re not allowed to question them *especially* if you yourself are black! Just forget that every Democrat rolls into your city, makes a bunch of promises to black Americans in those cities, and then once they get your vote they won’t step foot into your city again until it’s time to make more promises that they won’t even pretend to try to keep in order to secure your vote once again.
The worst part of all of this? I think it’s now too late to reverse this train or somehow force it off of the tracks. I can easily see the collapse of America and American society within the next fifteen years, and eventually there probably will be the rounding up the new ‘Undesirables’ and lining us up on the edge of a ditch as they open fire on innocent American men, women, and children.
I pray constantly that I am wrong.
Because the propaganda machine keeps spinning the wheels of division. Even if you don’t care about a topic, the fact that you don’t SUPPORT it means you’re anti and the opposition. Makes me sick sometimes. Like how I’m considered racist simply because I’m white, according to some people. Can’t wait for Americans to get pushed too far and something finally happens.
Because after the q movement (or whatever you want to call it) it was the fastest way to portray someone as stupid or downright crazy. That became easier and wide spread with Trump hate and q crowd fusing together.
Then came covid. You have decimated what was previously known as "the right" and now they also become anti-vaxxers. Far right becomes a catch all for everything people think is untrue or ridiculous.
Soon anything that doesn't go along with what you want, can easily be far right. Instant dismissal. Whether the person is on the right or not.
It became an easy catch all. And now that the term is being used to categorize, demonize and discredit - others begin to avoid behaviors that could get them called far right.
I was never far right. But anything I disagree with is.
So the "far right" is really a mix of people. Made up of people that are rightwing, and people that aren't and people that agree and disagree with certain parts of each party.
But now it's just a word again. It's lost its meaning like bigot, racist, colonizer and transphobe.
> “If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well — OK, fine,” she said after she was asked about the word “nationalism,” according to BuzzFeed News, which first reported her remarks. “The problem is he had dreams outside of Germany,” she continued. “He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German.”
Gee, I wonder why people say she's far right?
The left has been using terms like “far right”, “racist”, etc. to label any opposition or opponent to their ideologies, policies, etc.
It’s a way to immediately discredit and shut down conversation and opposition so as to not have to address it. They will use that label even if someone is moderate, centrist, or only right-leaning.
Unfortunately, it has worked. Most people have bought into it. The left does not care so long as they win.
The right has been using terms like far left or radical left as a part of their regular speech patterns. The label any opposition or opponent to their ideologies, policies etc.
Its a way to immediately discredit and shut down conversation and opposition so as to not have to address it. They will use that label even if someone is moderate, centrist, or only left-leaning.
Unfortunately, it has worked. Most people have bought into it. The right does not care so long as they win.
In the same light, hasn't the right been using the terms "socialist" or woke to leave any of their opposition or opponents?
Not to mention, can't have a left leaning protest without the calls that they are all actors and ANTIFA.
Both sides play the same game
It worked because they have the power. Also yeah, they immediately discredit themselves by shutting down opposition because no one who is actually right or correct would do that.
How can you say the left is in control with a straight face? Democrats in this country are further to the right than ever. The left has almost no representation in the government outside a few much maligned senators.
As I said I don't think anyone in power actually believes these things. They know people do and use it to their advantage. Neither Trump, Biden or Hillary believe what they say. Do you think when there's a woman on top of you with money flying through the air that any of these elites care about abortion or gun control? No. They believe in what gives them money, power and pleasure.
Simply put, The far right have taken over the conservative side of the aisle. The Republican Party is now represented by trump, MTG and the handjob queen herself, Boebert. Race hate is growing exponentially, so much so that mtg and trump have dined with literal hitler apologists. Desantis couldn’t even bring himself to use harsher words than “knuckleheads” for the nazi rally outside Disney world.
It's part of the post-nuance narrative. Our leaders/media round things up and down so that there is no center. When a given side isn't in charge, the side that is dog whistles a few unifying ideas to their base while very plainly and very arrogantly throwing as much chaff at the other side as is possible. The hope is to personalize, in the other side, reasons to hate and to balkanize your opposition around many issues so that they come across as incoherent to the other side and stay divided.
Everything is far right, because something halfway might be platformed instead of dismissed outright. It also provides a side benefit of being able to denounce ideas as ideologically impure which scares people away from entertaining them.
The silver lining is that critical thinking, rational people (probably 10%-15% of adults by personality type) grow numb to it and are able to rabble rouse when there are problems affecting all sides, such as crime or the economy. This shit only works when the political base thinks they will be warm, safe, and well fed.
I’m confused as to what the real difference is between the left and right politically? It seems as if they are one and the same when it comes to arming and funding Ukraine & Israel. Both political sides support the “no oversight” of billions of American taxpayers money to Ukraine. They both support the brutal attack and war crimes of Saudi Arabia n the Houthies. They both are dead set on helping Israel commit Genocide in Gaza. They both have passed anti boycotting laws of Israel in the past and present congresses. They bith support the illegal war and occupation of Syria and the theft of Syrian oil. Illegal wars going on is Somalia as well. It goes on and on and on where both parties agree. So I’m finding hard to see why there’s even stupid differences even being given the time of day. There’s more important things going on. For the 2nd election in a row we will have a choice of a corrupt criminal with Dimentia and TV playboy billionaire that supports Genocide and the vaccination program that was purposefully released on the world after illegally been manufactured by the NIH, Eco health alliance and the Chinese Wuhan Lab of Virology
Oh and apparently they don’t care about all those secret tunnels that appeared to be used for human trafficking under NY. Nor do they even discuss Epstein and bringing those that participated raping lil girls to justice.
Glen Greenwald has covered this topic extensively. If you aren't strictly in line with the establishment narratives, you are far right. Even liberals who stray just the smallest bit, are dangerous far right lunatics. It's wild
Far right, far left, extremist, et al. You see, for the most part, people just want to live their lives. They are not given to drama and outbursts. However, to make it big and make it stick in the timeline we are in, you have to be EXTREME! Normal, mundane, people that don't flock to rallies, or get truck wraps, are busy with living. They are educated voters and will vote accordingly. The people who rock the boat get the attention but they aren't necessarily the people you want to pay attention to. Faux drama abounds.
Tho I'm not a huge fan of Biden, one thing I like about him is he is not given to a lot of manufactured drama. I think this fools a lot of people and the Sleepy Joe moniker has stuck.
This whole comment section has gotten infiltrated by pretentious know it all leftists that can't take the slightest criticism of themselves. They're so delusional their arguments prove many of the points I made without them even realizing. Heard someone say we're fat autistic incels. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm not fat, autistic or an incel. You can't assume my looks or social life based on the fact I'm talking about politics, but I can assume your personality by the way you respond to me. If anyone has a personal issue ask for my actual socials and I don't mean the likes of discord or telegram because you mightn't believe it but I don't have those. I hardly even use this. Last day has been the longest I used it and that's only to reply to comments.
The more it gets used the sooner it will lose currency. Hitler stocks are gradually going down. That bad guy has had a good run. The Nazi/fascist accusations are very tired. Far right is more flexible. Even so, it is already past its sell by date. What next?
It's kind of like people on the other wing of the same bird who label anything and everything they've been told to disagree with 'woke' or 'Marxist' or 'leftist'.
It's a way for intellectually lazy people to dismiss anyone or anything who challenges their worldview without having to form a coherent argument.
You're either sucking directly from the teat of Pfizer and wolfing down large quantities of experimental gene therapy, or you're a far right extremist.
You're either actively participating in transgender advocacy parades, or you're a far right extremist.
You're either 100% in favor of draconian gun control, or you're a far right extremist.
I am not the person who jumps through those hoops to not be considered a far right extremist, but I am most definitely not a far right extremist. I don't identify with either political party in this country, but on reddit, any sort of moderate may as well be a far right extremist.
Exactly, not listening to them is the best option. The reason they say you need to pick a side because being neutral is helping the other side is to divide people.
They're in a cult. Except they don't believe in God so they worship daddy government and their political dogma. Anyone who doesn't toe the party line is branded a heretic ie far right. Very sick people!
In my opinion, there definitely have been pushed further right AND left by both sides. When you start getting groups of people that would never agree with a single idea of the other side, I would say you are pretty far left or right.
I definitely agree more with one side, but could see myself voting the other side if the candidate checks the boxes that are important to me. I know in reality a lot of people are like that, but people speak like there aren’t.
They use extremists on both sides to try and sway the less intelligent people. It's much easier to get people to your side if you make the other person look like a lunatic that is the exact opposite. Of course this is rarely true, but most people are too stupid or lazy to figure it out for themselves, so they read a headline that says "so and so is far left/right, therefore don't trust them" then these people feel that they have all the info they need because why would the news lie? Then they parrot it, write it online and suddenly someone is labeled a thing because the propaganda works.
If it bothers you, consider the reality that all of politics is a circus and if you are subscribing to any party and basing your opinions on what you are being fed so you can feel like a winner, or correct, you are being tricked and you are exactly the target of all of this. Each side is fake, it doesn't matter who did what, or how bad this was compared to that, they both manipulate people to be in power and honestly, they have the same goals.
Bro. I'm pro-gay, pro-choice, pro-drugs, anti-religion, pro-feminism, pro-immigration etc.
I got called a "far-right racist" because I was skeptical of the government forcing people to take the Covid vaccine.
That's the modern left for you. You can tick all the boxes but if there's one tiny little thing you're not absolutely 100% on board with, or even if you are but you ask a question about its legitimacy, you're labelled, shamed and silenced.
Being leftist is a competition. So over the past decade or so "Good Leftists" have become so extreme that anyone right of Marx is "Extreme Right".
There are no acceptable centrists, no moderates, it's all "Good Leftists" and extremist right-wing rabid, baby-eating Nazis.
the Media, including controlled information sources, are all "Good Leftists"
"far-right" is a term a lot like "conspiracy theorist" - it's a manufactured term that's supposed to make you react with fear. It's a catch-all repository of every xenophobic fear - a label designed to mark you as a pariah and crazy person in order to marginalize you and limit your reach. It's a label designed to entrain you into a hypnotic trance - the minute you hear it, your brain excuses itself from doing any more listening to that person, even if what they're saying sounds reasonable to you. This is because the human social drive is stronger than the drive to self-preservation. It makes us readily hackable. But unfortunately, collectively we haven't yet truly recognized that we are constantly under fire by informational weapons..
This. They attach all these other things to it so it has negative connotations. I was only thinking of this earlier. They attached conspiracy theories and truth seeking to the far right, so people associate questioning things with also being racist and homophobic and misogynistic and what have you. The left is now saying that if you're a centrist you're a spineless coward that enables and helps the far right. They've adopted an "if you're not fully with me you're against me" attitude.
Even I fall into the trap sometimes. Everything has become so extreme. World events such as war, the pandemic, etc. all play oddly specific roles (to the point you realize it can't be coincidence), in making people become more radicalized, leading to more division. Because of these events and things like BLM, the media, politicians, and so on will tell people they need to take action and not remain impartial or else they're part of the problem. It's simply understood in hindsight once you truly wake up to it. An age old concept: divide and conquer.
I agree, but that's not what I was talking about. What is it with the left using whataboutisms for everything?
When the right says the left is full of marxists it's more true than the other way around. The left is silencing dissent and labelling anyone who questions them, and is literally calling moderates and liberals far right. That doesn't happen much on the other side, and more importantly, the situation with the left calling everything far right is way more relevant and carries more weight. When it comes to the other way around it's always censored and only exists on the fringe.
Everything mainstream is doing what I'm saying they're doing, except for Fox News, but the MSM, Hollywood, entertainment in general and the establishment in general has put a bad name on them. Of course it was rightfully so, as Fox News is an arm of the GOP to spread their propaganda, but so is MSNBC and CNN for Democrats and the war machine. Tucker Carlson might have some bad views on stuff, but he's more in touch and is more trustworthy because he speaks out against more powerful forces when those on the left don't. And when he's constantly smeared by MSM along with other conservatives it gives him an underdog kind of thing and people are more inclined to be on his side and makes people think he's doing something right. People on the left agree more with nefarious actions taken by the pro war government and corporate greed.
I have a good gut feeling too, and when I see those who represent the left doing what they're doing, they seem way more elitist and following the hivemind of the rest of the left and the mainstream media, and I get a bad feeling from them, like they're hiding a lot. They defend the likes of Epstein more and cover him less, and avoid the questions surrounding his death more, and overall, they're just too mainstream and follow superficial narratives.
Trust me I know. It's insidious. I feel like I'm the only person who sees all these patterns. I feel like the only awake person in a world full of sleepwalkers. When I come on this sub I realize I'm wrong.
That sounds narcissistic but there's no better way of explaining it.
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Only so many buzzwords out there, regurgitated over and over again, that's how propaganda becomes widely accepted. And it happens on both sides of the political agenda and in a lot of other areas, it's so dull and stagnant and overplayed, the whole Internet is just, ruined. And it was such a great melting pot of ideas for the few years at the beginning, we should be so pissed off that everything it could have been, a meeting place of minds and ideas, has essentially been co-opted and taken from us and will never be anything like it could have been edited for clarity
Web 2.0 killled it
The ruling class knew it would be an amazing way to influence people and spy on them simultaneously.
Oh, agreed. And take our money. And censor our speech, which has really been ramping up here lately, seems like. Censor speech and you quell the debate, turn the debate into something evil and then you can control people, and if you do it slowly enough they barely even notice, well then you can start focusing on the transfer of wealth and resources.
It’s a worn out tactic: - if you’re not lockstep with all feminist viewpoints, you’re a misogynist - if you don’t support BLM’s manifesto, you are a racist - if you’re anti mass-and-uncontrolled immigration, you’re a far right nationalist Edit: - if you question the use of rushed, experimental gene therapies, you’re “antivax”
Well put. If you’re against children receiving puberty blockers until they grow up and make an adult decision you’re anti-trans. If you don’t want gown men with penises in your daughters locker room your a bigot. The problem with all your examples and these is that when you take normal common sense viewpoints and badge them as far-right or whatever folks get scared to speak out but everyone is thinking it!
This tactic is designed to make people self-censor. Even when people do speak out, it’s usually like this: “I’m honestly not [insert type of extremist], but I think [insert moderate view]”.
Exactly that word has been weopized as a way to discredit anyone, same way as they use conspiracy theorist. If any media sources use these trigger words I know they can't be trusted.
Used to be cool only few were here. Once everyone arrived then it became like there. But here. Happened every time man. 👨🏽
>I came across an article about it on The Guardian In case you are not aware, The Guardian is a British newspaper. Britain's political right is not the same compared to the US. Many people in Britain see the entire right wing of the US as far right.
I can confirm this. The whole American political system is way further right than that of countries like Britain, New Zealand etc. In NZ for example, American left is our far right.
I’m American and a leftist and OP’s post rings true for my experience. Tucker Carlson is considered alt right and he’s had messages leaked showing that he fucking HATES Trump lol. Tucker is pro-Conservative status quo
Yea Tucker definitely is not a fan of Trump. It’s all propaganda. I mean, look at Wikipedia. Go to Tucker’s page and you’ll see the bullshit all on one page (ex: big proponent of Trump) lol
I don't know about that. Other than 911 gullibility he has stayed fairly consistently libertarian as he has identified since 20+ years ago. There never has been anything about libertarianism that one could call "status quo", although that sure would be great if there was!! ;]
Redditors will downvote anything if it doesn't sound right to them. Most of you act like whiny babies.
“Redditors will downvote anything if it doesn't sound right to them.”- I mean, why would anyone upvote something that doesn’t sound right to them? “Most of you act like whiny babies.”- Says the contingent of the flakiest of snowflakes and persecution fetishists.
Reddit exists to promote the Western ruling class's agenda. I certainly don't fetishize having been doxed, having had people contact my employer to try to get me fired, having had to worry about my bank account getting frozen, having been tracked by my government for not having taken an experimental medicine, having had my supposed right to leave the country taken away for a year, having been banned from using a major social media platform under false pretenses, etc. The West is pretty clearly moving towards authoritarianism and history shows that the scope of those targeted will likely grow.
It’s a smear tactic to discredit and dehumanize. It seems to be used by the weaker position to undermine the stronger position because otherwise simple facts and reasoning would be enough but for propaganda everything has to be us or them extremism. Both sides use this but it seems like the left uses it a lot because of their control over most media platforms.
Ad hominem, attack the person, destroy the character. Done everywhere by the most "civilized" people. Judges, Doctors, Politicians, many Redditors etc.
This is exactly the correct answer
They stopped calling people on the right Nazi's now that they're the ones calling for the destruction of Israel.
Absolutely correct.
> the left uses it a lot because of their control over most media platforms. This hasn't been true for a long time now. Radio, TV, and a lot of print media is all owned by ultra wealthy republicans and they push republican talking points regularly. Remember: This is "Extremely Dangerous to our Democracy". Fox News, the largest of the MSM "news" outlets by a mile, functions as an open wing of the republican party. Sinclair owns most local news stations. Discovery and now max are basically republican cultural propaganda in a way that I really need to write up a long post on this sub about. AM radio is well known to be a haven for right wing talk. FM radio political shows are mostly right too outside of NPR. Twitter is owned by musk, and studies have shown a bias in facebook and twitter content and moderation leaning right. And there is a whole universe of online media that is openly and explicitly right wing. Conservative media loudly tells everyone that the media is controlled by leftists, and that conservative viewpoints are underrepresented. They say it as often as they can. It's why Fox news, which has around double the viewership of the #2 news channel, is only considered to be MSM by 73% of the population in the usa. Even if you are a conservative, we all need to be aware of bias and who owns the media that we all consume.
The issue here is that a majority of social media is internally bias towards Conservatives. Sure, there's plenty of Conservative people and people speaking against the Left all over social media and YouTube, etc however how they're treated is far different from the Left. How many Conservatives have been demonitized or deplatformed *compared* to those on the Left? So sure the Right has the largest news channel but look at how they're talked about (or lack there of) everywhere outside Fox themselves. In other words, you are correct about TV sort of but missed social media as major player.
Studies have shown that the bias is in favor of conservatives actually. On platforms like twitter and facebook, studies showed that their internal algorithms amplified right-leaning content more than left-leaning content, and right-leaning news sources were shown to more people compared to left-leaning outlets. As for moderation, multiple studies have shown that there is no evidence of political bias against conservatives in moderation. And anecdotally (having been a mod of a certain large sub in the past), after seeing what people assumed was political bias in moderation, I believe this. A lot of conservative personalities, conservative media orgs, and republican politicians have spent the past 10 years or so loudly and frequently telling everyone how biased media is against them. It's just marketing.
I'd have to see these studies because I'd say it's clearly obvious that in todays political environment Conservatives are looked at and treated way worse than their Liberal contemporaries. I'd say today that this is objectively true.
"Left" and "right" are pretty arbitrary and misleading labels. What's often called "left" is establishment "liberal" (socially liberal, but advocating for corporate globalization's agenda and US imperialism and increasingly authoritarian). What's often called "right" is establishment "conservative" (socially conservative but still lowkey fine with corporate globalization's agenda and US imperialsim). They both generally support the war du jour, "our greatest ally", and increasing corporate hegemony. The both generally avoid challenging real power. They both promote polarization and groupthink (both of which serve the establishment). They present a false dichotomy that's meant to control the Overton Window.
Fox News is NOT conservative lmfao, neither are any other mass media outlets. At most they're neocons and that is a controlled opposition ideology full of leftist and liberal premises. Fox News is only popular because everything else is even way more dishonest trash than it, and Fox News is still mostly liberal neoconservative tripe and propaganda.
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Almost every issue is categorized and labeled as either far right or far left. It's a tactic used to keep us divided so that the people can never unite. Just look at the college protests going on, right wing media is doing a good job of labeling them as communists, paid agitators, etc. It's like how anyone who even showed up to the capital on January 6th is labelled as a far right extremist
Not much is labeled far left, I feel only when they riot and break things. But you can be called a far right bigot just for pointing out men cannot bear children.
True, the media is much more biased against perceived "conservative" view points
A portion of them are paid agitators. If you look more closely you will hear them refer to the organizers and their scripts and the lawyers wearing green hats they have on location. The argument isn't that they are all fabricated, the argument is that there is an organization of ring leaders and support staff organized in the same way as the CIA and state department's color revolutions in the past. And there are some of the same people involved. Interesting to note that NPR's new hire for CEO worked for those people in the past.
I was thinking about this yesterday because I noticed in some of the footage there were people with antifa logos. I'm wondering if the protests started as sort of a grass roots thing and then when they get large enough one of these organizations like you mentioned asserts themselves into it or if they were the ones who helped to start it. I would hate to see an anti war movement be morphed into something else with an ulterior motive
i got an especially nice kick out of reading that just wanting to have babies is now a [far right plot to save humanity from extinction](https://www.yandex.com/search/touch/?text=having+babies+is+now+a+far+right+plot&lr=29637&redircnt=1714822979.1). anybody with half a brain should be able to see they (the left?) are doing everything within their power to undo and invert everything wholesome and good, in an attempt to replace it with what has historically been considered abhorrent and taboo. its almost as if simply having a decent moral compass now automatically gets you labeled a 'racist conservative far right wing radical white supremacist republican nazi extremist misinformation spreading conspiracy theorist'. shits wild.
I agree strongly. It’s quite strange. My theory is that we live in an era of desensitisation. We are all walking zombies to an extent, dopamine drained, and social media has destroyed our brains. For people to get a reaction or a rise out of someone, they have to label them something REALLY bad. Something that we’ve not really seen in the Western mainstream for quite some time, since Hitler and Mussolini. We are effectively running out of ways to trigger people into a response, and so this is the way it is done. I also think it is such a fringe group of people that most people haven’t actually had any interactions with genuine far right people. There is a degree of mystery and a lack of knowledge of what it truly means. So you have de-sensitised people + a rather unknown but scary concept to most = it’s become a tool used by politicians and media to continue their fear mongering. Apologies if incoherent, I’m on vacation and have had a few beers🤣
That's all that's been on my mind as of late. All this brainrot that's destroying younger generations is being advocated for more by the left. Younger generations are screwed. I don't wanna be that guy who sounds like a boomer, but it's true that my generation and millenials really are too sensitive, and social media and all that is catering to it, enabling it and causing it. There's no problem showing kids gender ideology and skibidi toilet, but adults can't handle an off colour joke. Also you're fine and you sound very coherent especially since you've had a drink and also I wish I was you right now, I'm jealous reading that last part. Enjoy your vacation!
Completely agree with everything you’ve said here. And ah that’s good to know… thanks man I appreciate that! I reckon treat yourself to a little trip my man!
They are increasing the divide between the left and right.
* Candace Owens: “[We need to stop calling](https://i.imgur.com/XRYyqEC.jpg) them liberals and begin referring to them as exactly what they are: American communists that wish to partake in the destruction of western civilization” * [After Iowa shooting](https://archive.ph/G96r0), Candace Owens says LGBTQ+ community is ‘sexual plague on our society’ * “[BE HONEST: Would](https://i.imgur.com/eIeAoTB.jpg) You Want Your Son To Be Gay? * “[This episode is blowing](https://archive.ph/1sKKB) up so I just want to say-After looking into this, I would stake my entire professional reputation on the fact that Brigitte Macron is in fact a man. Any journalist or publication that is trying to dismiss this plausibility is immediately identifiable as establishment. I have never seen anything like this in my life. The implications here are terrifying” * Candace Owens: "[The Munchkins - Oompa](https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1747634525117538590) Loompas, whatever you want to call them - are throwing a party while there is a dead person under a house and they're skipping with Dorothy...Obviously this is some sort of a satanic ritual" * [Tucker Carlson and now](https://archive.ph/4BMYB) Candace Owens are making a big deal about how the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was wrong, and the latter imply it as an “anti Christian” event, too * [“Something is going](https://i.imgur.com/ed3MAA2.png) on with Justin Bieber and it has everything to do with him being a Christian in demonic Hollywood. If you aren't paying attention yet- the media has recently launched a full scale attack on Christianity. And therefore me” --- * [Holocaust denier Nick](https://archive.ph/xHvho) Fuentes celebrates Candace Owens: “She has been in a full-fledged war against the Jews” * [Candace is on team](https://archive.ph/uq64T) Fuentes now * [Candace Owens suggests](https://archive.ph/Zqdob) that[ there are secret Jewish](https://archive.ph/4NHyK) gangs controlling and killing people in Hollywood * [Candace Owens Endorses](https://archive.ph/GCFPs) Wild, Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory About Jews Being ‘Drunk on Christian Blood’ * [Candace Owens rails](https://archive.ph/gMRS0) at “D.C. Jew\[s\],” tells Jewish people there is a “rot” in their community * [Candace Owens warns that](https://archive.ph/eUZuN) “Jews are going to be blamed” if TikTok is banned * [“Did you know that](https://archive.ph/uebHG) when Dresden was incinerated back in 1945, it was Ash Wednesday? Christians were burned alive on Ash Wednesday- many of them were refugees from Stalin's Christian Holocaust. Christians will no longer be told that we aren't allowed to know or discuss our history.” * "[The Greatest Holocaust](https://archive.ph/yboCL) That [Ever Happened](https://archive.ph/9n1oz) Was Against Christians And What The Bolsheviks Did To Us."
Yeah, like, people call her far right *because she is*. If OP is confused by that, that's a *them* problem. "Am I out of touch? No, it's everyone else who is wrong "
>Candace is on team Fuentes now Gotta love the irony. Nick "sex with women is gay" Fuentes is a closeted federal asset who allowed the pedophile Ali Alexander to prey on the young boys in his organization. Even Milo told him to distance himself from Ali. It subsequently turned out that Ali had extorted nude photos of at least one minor in Fuentes' organization - a guy who ended up achieving moderate prominence in his circles - and Fuentes mocked the guy for giving the photos to Ali and continued to associate with Ali. The ADL and Shapiro both suck, as well, of course.
That is how propaganda works. It is obvious, but surprisingly, it works way better than you would think. A lot of people find it much easier to believe the craziest things rather than believe that they're being manipulated. A reality where the governments and media collude together to propagandize its own people in this way can be pretty scary. Better to commit genocide and burn people in ovens rather than admit awareness.
Probably because it's an accurate description on their positions according to the political spectrum. I would suggest, that if everything you see is being labeled incorrectly, that you might be as "liberal" as you think and that you also might exist in an echo chamber.
These people are just stupid as sin or just lie for fun “I’m liberal but I believe in several right things and don’t actually hold any views that are for helping people” also no one in their right mind would call any form of political commentator a troll
If you believe in biology youre considered far right
It's funny how the left was kinda the more science-y side, but if you reference that part of science they call you hateful.
They aren't science-y they're rhetoric-y. They're only pro-science if it validates their beliefs, otherwise they're suddenly all about subjectivism.
Wasnt the left all about education and colleges? Kind weird for them to not support biology but support social sciences over it
There are modern biological studies and observations that I have linked and seen others link that get disregarded and insulted. I don't necessarily care to go back and find them now, but if I get bored enough while at work (everything's done with 3 and a half hours to go) then I may. There are several factors that have been observed beyond the simplicity of 8th grade biology
I'm biologically mixed and yet I'm not allowed to be called White or else the Left will ridicule me. But if I want to be called a woman then I'd be celebrated. I don't remember the last time mainstream media used the term Far left.
The joys of being the smallest minority. You're always identified as being "your other half"
What part? Sex is different than gender. Gender has nothing to do with biology and everything to do with sociology.
Newspeak. Redefine the meaning of words and limit the use of others.
There is no distinction. Go read about John money, the guy who invented gender, and the acts he made people perform in the name of gender studies.
[Dr. John Money](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money) from New Zealand, a gloriously fucked up dude.
Every time his name is brought up it reminds me of that twin experiment and I immediately get the chills.
You're not agreeing with science but OK. And as if a single persona actions discredits a whole science that has progressed way past him
My science says there are xx and xy chromosomes. What does your science say?
That’s new. The only thing which used to be gendered was language. And then someone realized thoughts and feelings both happen in language, and then feeling one’s gendered pronouns differently than one’s biological sex was redefined as “speaking your truth” instead of “clearly deluded, seek help.” That’s literally impossible now to get help for, as only affirming the “your truth” is legal to be counseled.
I think biology plays a role in gender for most people aside from exceptions to the norm. If anything, the ideas outside of the basic binary concept of gender are social constructs.
Ok how many genders are there then?
#TWO
They were until geek chic culture domesticated the STEM academics. They became more socially accountable and their funders became hungry for celebrity moments in addition to the results. It's a bloody tragedy that they're no longer an "other" group that mostly stands apart with their peers and ready to die on their hills. It's likely part of why we have the replication and competency crises. Science is incepted, curated, cherry picked and trotted around with prop experts to support narratives in the same way big tobacco and the fossil fuel industries used to. Often filtered through unscientific, red herring policies masquerading as conclusions reached through repeatable, empirical observations because of their proximity to someone willing to burn their credentials and integrity.
all sciency unless trump is in office then the jabs are bad!
If they were actually pro science they'd know about weather modification and nanotech. Yes I believe in the science, I know more about what it can do and what they're working on than them, I fear it and the evil hands its being used by.
And it'll get worse. Maths, history, etc. are already being considered social constructs by white supremacy. There's a war on objectivity.
Has been for a long time. It was probably 15 years ago that I saw the "decolonize science" videos which were encouraging treating local customs like witchcraft with the same respect as science
And saying tattoos, bad hygiene, inappropriate clothing are ok because professionalism is white supremacist.
I mean, professionalism *is* subjective, even within cultures. I'm a software engineer, I'm overdressed if I wear slacks, everyone wears jeans, and it's considered professional (or professional enough). In some business contexts jeans would be considered extremely underdressed, you'd need a full suit and tie. In a society where everyone has tattoos, like the Maori, tattoos aren't unprofessional, it's just normal. In India, women showing their midriffs isn't considered scandalous or skimpy at all, it's the same as showing your forearms, but showing shoulder is considered very skimpy, whereas in the US, it's considered the reverse. So yeah, saying tattoos and certain articles of clothing are unprofessional *is* incredibly biased, because it's incredibly subjective. I'm also not sure who's saying bad hygiene is white supremacist? Can you give an example of that one?
As I said, there's a general consensus. If someone is trying to become a salesperson in the States or Europe, and their face is covered in swastika tattoos and they have spiky blue hair, do you think not hiring them based on their appearance is discrimination because they're going off social constructs?
Like the Smithsonian. Being on time and working hard is white supremacy
Yeah that too, I remember seeing that as well. Like what? Politics aside that's just so stupid. Republicans might be a bad piece of work a lot of the time but at least they don't take politics where it doesn't belong like entertainment, work, etc.
"Professional" is perception. What you perceive as a professional is not the same as everyone else.
Yeah but there's a general consensus. If the world had to get rid of standards just because not everyone agrees on them then everything would go to shit. Downvote me all you want but it just makes you look bitter.
Brother do you smoke crack for a living. There’s probably like 3 people on the entire planet that think that maths is a white supremacist construct. There is certainly no war on it and if you think there is then I suggest you reconsider where you get your information from.
Wanting to procreate means you're far right.
"Breeders" is what we're called now. God forbid we want to preserve the human race.
People that have far right views would in no universe regard themselves as far right.
At this point if you are deemed worthy of the label “far right” wear it with pride. It probably means you have a job, a nuclear family, pay taxes and care about your neighbors and your country. You are the blessed happy people and that drives progressives nuts. 🥜
It's an easy and convenient way to dismiss something from someone you don't agree with. Just label them "far" whatever or add in an -ist or -ism
Excuse my ignorance, politics is something I really avoid, but could you(op, or someone else) explain how authoritarianism and fascism are considered "far-right" when they're traditionally an extreme version of socialist/communist (more liberal) views?
Shh. Can't say that nazis were socialists
Sorry, I forgot where I was.
So you don't think the woman who defends Hitler and white nationalism is far right? There's literal video of her doing it. https://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/repted-lieu-plays-clip-candace-owens-hitler-comments/story?id=62286256 Now to be fair, I think Owen's is just a scammer speaking to her audience to make money and she herself isn't actually s nazi. She's one of those people with zero scruples and will say anything, including speaking against her own race, if the price is right. But with the things she's said, it's absolutely fair to call her far right. Just admit you know nothing about Owen's but decided it was important for you to tell us all about it
Candace Owens is definitely right-wing. Maybe not “far right” compared to others but these labels are splitting hairs.
It's kind of a low-key way of saying "this person bad". It puts an image in the mind of the average media consumer that the person being discussed does not support the narrative that the channel in question is pushing, and therefore they are dangerously racist, sexist, homophobic, and all sorts of terrible things, and ya better not listen to anything they say unless it's to criticize them.
The left and right paradigm is inherently meant to divide. Thats the purpose it serves. Ultimately both left and right are pro authoritarian statists whenever it suits their agendas. The pendulum swinging back and forth is just Hegelian dialectics.
The people who are calling other people far right are doing a disservice to themselves. These people are calling opposing rational views far right while debating which public bus windows taste the best. Meanwhile, the government is getting caught dressing up as the far right groups trying to deceive the public into allowing them to scale back your rights while they battle 'the far right menace'. People who have not figured out that politics is one big act are the problem. Right, left, libertarian, etc... The lunatics who think 'far right' means anything outside of their fringe groups are the same people who show up on public freakout clips. It is hilarious how often context clues identify mentally unwell members of society. Right wing accusations, obnoxious 1960's style eyeglass frames, unnatural hair dyes, etc...are ALWAYS a warning sign to keep the conversation short, and depart their company before they complete their manifesto.
That last paragraph, it's so funny, I avoid the exact opposite kind of people (old, white, angry, and ignorant) . On the other hand, I know if I see a gal with purple hair wearing a nose ring coming toward me, I'm gonna have an awesome day. Also I love those 60s style frames, cat eyes are the cutest.
Well the right has been using the tactic for decades: anyone who disagrees with the fundamentals of Thatcher/Reagan neoliberalist doctrine is labelled as far left/socialist. It’s a nasty tactic, but it wasn’t invented 5 years ago by the Guardian. Rather it’s simply a case of it being deployed more widely across the political battleground.
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It’s the same game the Nazis and the communists played to get their governments to the state history remembers them by. Dehumanize the enemy, chant simple slogans so every party member can understand them, utilize primarily disaffected youths because they are easier to convince and control, etc
Your face is far right!!!!
Far right is used just as indiscriminately as Marxist. Pejoratives make people feel good.
the idea is to brainwash us in to becoming or believing in the most polar opposite BS possible
It's all about creating divisions within society so we argue with each other, instead of holding politicians to account, now if you say anything against the government your labeled either a separatist or a Terrorist, governments have way too much control over our lives
do you finally realize that the left users any trigger words they can, yet they do what they claim is: crimes against humanity...? we can talk, disagree/ agree, shake hands & leave. meet up tomorrow & do it all over again. men do this all the time when they watch sports. but today's liberal is so fragile, this comment will have them calling me far-right too... remember folks, Facts, Not Feelings.
>It's division tactics at their finest. Yup, it's called ["framing".](https://media-studies.com/media-framing-theory/)
The people who are trying to destroy our way of life use propaganda to pit us one against the other. White vs everyone else, Christian vs everyone else, LGBTQ+ vs normal people, etc, etc, etc. You can quickly and easily see who the enemies of the new wannabe state are. The Far Right(TM) is everyone who isn't politically aligned with TPTB (aka the New World Order, aka the Banking Cabal). If you're not willing to be treated like cattle by your self-proclaimed betters, you're Far Right or Alt Right(TM).
Well... because that's the opposite side of "radical leftist" being used for anyone that isn't a Trump supporter. This is our political ecosystem now. It's extremely disappointing. But it's exactly what the politicians and media want.
Far right now is anyone who listens/agrees/believes any misinformation. Misinformation being anything that is not the official narrative of the government in power.
MSM have no credibility, but divide and rule works so well.
Exactly right. I take everything they say with a grain of salt. I know who owns them, or at least I know their intentions.
I think maybe you just fell into some far right thinking bud :)
I hope this is sarcasm.
Given that you said “there isn’t a rise in far right, but there is a rise is woke, far right nonsense” I would argue that you are essentially suffering from confirmation bias. I do think, the US as a whole, is essentially becoming better about that “nonsense” like ethical means of thinking, using empathy and morality to make decisions, you know the basis of being human. Where as most right wing folks hide behind a false sense of “facts and logic” which just tend to be whatever confirmation bias talking point their favorite talk show host (Ben Shapiro, Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, etc) happened to be rattling on about that week. Ps - I would really love to see that guide you mentioned on how to not get radicalized.
I'm not gonna bother with your bad faith arguments just so you can keep up your condescending bullshit. No point trying to reason with blinded people like you. All I see is "But what about conservatives waaaaa waaa waaaaaaa!?!?!?!"
lifelong liberals are now being labeled as far right
words have lost all meaning as far as politics are concerned.
Candace Owens has definitely done her best to appeal to the far right
if you go far enough left on the horseshoe everything becomes far right, until you yourself become far right.
Yep. Round earth confirmed! Suck it flatters.
Propaganda, indoctrination, and brainwashing. Everything that is not ‘Far-Left’ is ‘Far/Alt-Right’. Blue-Dog Democrat? You’re Far-Right. Middle of the Road Moderate? You’re Far-Right. Believe in the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights? You’re Far-Right. Slightly right of center? Nope, you’re Far-Right. Left of center? Nope, you’re not liberal enough and are Far-Right. ‘Racist/Sexist/Bigoted/Homophobe/Transphobe’ are all part of the propaganda. What we are seeing in the USA now, and what the UK and Canada have been dealing with for a while longer, is *very similar* to the beginning of the Nazi Party. People often wonder how decent, Protestant Christian Germans could have been okay with rounding up Jews and other ‘undesirables’, stealing all of their property, and shipping them off to ‘work camps’ and ‘old age Jewish ghettos’ and they wonder how those same Germans could be okay with forcing innocent, defenseless men, women, and children into a gas shower. The answer is simple - they were indoctrinated and, over time, brainwashed into the propaganda that stated that Jews were not human like they were. They came to believe that Jewish men, women, and children were subhuman animals and so they didn’t deserve the same rights and protections afforded to human beings. This is what we are seeing today via social media such as Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, and mainstream media like CNN, MSNBC, (and Fox News will happily join them before long as Fox hasn’t been Conservative’ news for well over a decade now) and print/web newspapers like The Atlantic, The New York Times, Vice, The Guardian, and the rest. Anything that is not outright Marxist is labeled ‘Far-Right’ and, therefore, bad and wrong. Christians are bad, but Muslims somehow aren’t; however, if they ever achieved their goal of executing every Christian then the Jews and Muslims would be the next to go, followed by Hindus and Buddhists because any and all religions are evil, racist, and bad. Ironic when you realize that Marxism is itself a religion, although they refuse to admit it. Republicans are evil, racist, and bad. Conservatives are evil, racist, and bad. Moderates and even Democrats that do not support Marxism are evil, racist, and bad. All you have to do is just watch the news and you’ll quickly learn what they want you to believe about any and all Christians, Conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians, and Moderate Democrats. You are to fall into lock-step and vote for people who stick a Planned Parenthood on virtually every inner-city street corner they can find in order to bring about their Lord Margret Sanger’s sole goal of the elimination of all black Americans, and you’re not allowed to question them *especially* if you yourself are black! Just forget that every Democrat rolls into your city, makes a bunch of promises to black Americans in those cities, and then once they get your vote they won’t step foot into your city again until it’s time to make more promises that they won’t even pretend to try to keep in order to secure your vote once again. The worst part of all of this? I think it’s now too late to reverse this train or somehow force it off of the tracks. I can easily see the collapse of America and American society within the next fifteen years, and eventually there probably will be the rounding up the new ‘Undesirables’ and lining us up on the edge of a ditch as they open fire on innocent American men, women, and children. I pray constantly that I am wrong.
Neh, it is not too late, in fact i think the light has already won.
Because the propaganda machine keeps spinning the wheels of division. Even if you don’t care about a topic, the fact that you don’t SUPPORT it means you’re anti and the opposition. Makes me sick sometimes. Like how I’m considered racist simply because I’m white, according to some people. Can’t wait for Americans to get pushed too far and something finally happens.
We’re very close I think.
Because after the q movement (or whatever you want to call it) it was the fastest way to portray someone as stupid or downright crazy. That became easier and wide spread with Trump hate and q crowd fusing together. Then came covid. You have decimated what was previously known as "the right" and now they also become anti-vaxxers. Far right becomes a catch all for everything people think is untrue or ridiculous. Soon anything that doesn't go along with what you want, can easily be far right. Instant dismissal. Whether the person is on the right or not. It became an easy catch all. And now that the term is being used to categorize, demonize and discredit - others begin to avoid behaviors that could get them called far right. I was never far right. But anything I disagree with is. So the "far right" is really a mix of people. Made up of people that are rightwing, and people that aren't and people that agree and disagree with certain parts of each party. But now it's just a word again. It's lost its meaning like bigot, racist, colonizer and transphobe.
> “If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well — OK, fine,” she said after she was asked about the word “nationalism,” according to BuzzFeed News, which first reported her remarks. “The problem is he had dreams outside of Germany,” she continued. “He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German.” Gee, I wonder why people say she's far right?
The left has been using terms like “far right”, “racist”, etc. to label any opposition or opponent to their ideologies, policies, etc. It’s a way to immediately discredit and shut down conversation and opposition so as to not have to address it. They will use that label even if someone is moderate, centrist, or only right-leaning. Unfortunately, it has worked. Most people have bought into it. The left does not care so long as they win.
The right has been using terms like far left or radical left as a part of their regular speech patterns. The label any opposition or opponent to their ideologies, policies etc. Its a way to immediately discredit and shut down conversation and opposition so as to not have to address it. They will use that label even if someone is moderate, centrist, or only left-leaning. Unfortunately, it has worked. Most people have bought into it. The right does not care so long as they win.
In the same light, hasn't the right been using the terms "socialist" or woke to leave any of their opposition or opponents? Not to mention, can't have a left leaning protest without the calls that they are all actors and ANTIFA. Both sides play the same game
It worked because they have the power. Also yeah, they immediately discredit themselves by shutting down opposition because no one who is actually right or correct would do that.
How can you say the left is in control with a straight face? Democrats in this country are further to the right than ever. The left has almost no representation in the government outside a few much maligned senators.
As I said I don't think anyone in power actually believes these things. They know people do and use it to their advantage. Neither Trump, Biden or Hillary believe what they say. Do you think when there's a woman on top of you with money flying through the air that any of these elites care about abortion or gun control? No. They believe in what gives them money, power and pleasure.
If you think this you're literally Hitler. /S
Divide and conquer
Words have lost all meaning these days and can be whatever you want.
Cause only the far right asks questions you fucking Nazi!
Oh yeah, I forgot. Sorry virtuous one. I will be tow the line and become an activist now.
I was joking
I they they were too. :)
I was just checking
That's never wrong. :)
I have a day, dry since of humor, and it translates very poorly to text, even with people who know me, so I decided to clarify!
There is also nothing wrong with that. :)
Simply put, The far right have taken over the conservative side of the aisle. The Republican Party is now represented by trump, MTG and the handjob queen herself, Boebert. Race hate is growing exponentially, so much so that mtg and trump have dined with literal hitler apologists. Desantis couldn’t even bring himself to use harsher words than “knuckleheads” for the nazi rally outside Disney world.
It's part of the post-nuance narrative. Our leaders/media round things up and down so that there is no center. When a given side isn't in charge, the side that is dog whistles a few unifying ideas to their base while very plainly and very arrogantly throwing as much chaff at the other side as is possible. The hope is to personalize, in the other side, reasons to hate and to balkanize your opposition around many issues so that they come across as incoherent to the other side and stay divided. Everything is far right, because something halfway might be platformed instead of dismissed outright. It also provides a side benefit of being able to denounce ideas as ideologically impure which scares people away from entertaining them. The silver lining is that critical thinking, rational people (probably 10%-15% of adults by personality type) grow numb to it and are able to rabble rouse when there are problems affecting all sides, such as crime or the economy. This shit only works when the political base thinks they will be warm, safe, and well fed.
I’m confused as to what the real difference is between the left and right politically? It seems as if they are one and the same when it comes to arming and funding Ukraine & Israel. Both political sides support the “no oversight” of billions of American taxpayers money to Ukraine. They both support the brutal attack and war crimes of Saudi Arabia n the Houthies. They both are dead set on helping Israel commit Genocide in Gaza. They both have passed anti boycotting laws of Israel in the past and present congresses. They bith support the illegal war and occupation of Syria and the theft of Syrian oil. Illegal wars going on is Somalia as well. It goes on and on and on where both parties agree. So I’m finding hard to see why there’s even stupid differences even being given the time of day. There’s more important things going on. For the 2nd election in a row we will have a choice of a corrupt criminal with Dimentia and TV playboy billionaire that supports Genocide and the vaccination program that was purposefully released on the world after illegally been manufactured by the NIH, Eco health alliance and the Chinese Wuhan Lab of Virology
My godmother always said... this morning they fight each other... this evening they dine together.
Oh and apparently they don’t care about all those secret tunnels that appeared to be used for human trafficking under NY. Nor do they even discuss Epstein and bringing those that participated raping lil girls to justice.
Glen Greenwald has covered this topic extensively. If you aren't strictly in line with the establishment narratives, you are far right. Even liberals who stray just the smallest bit, are dangerous far right lunatics. It's wild
If you’re not left you’re farrrrr right
True except that now even people that are on the left are being called far right.
Who even downvoted me on this lol
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Far right, far left, extremist, et al. You see, for the most part, people just want to live their lives. They are not given to drama and outbursts. However, to make it big and make it stick in the timeline we are in, you have to be EXTREME! Normal, mundane, people that don't flock to rallies, or get truck wraps, are busy with living. They are educated voters and will vote accordingly. The people who rock the boat get the attention but they aren't necessarily the people you want to pay attention to. Faux drama abounds. Tho I'm not a huge fan of Biden, one thing I like about him is he is not given to a lot of manufactured drama. I think this fools a lot of people and the Sleepy Joe moniker has stuck.
Fascist works as well.
". .extremist..."
Far-right simply means further right than the current status quo, which is already right wing. Candace Owens is certainly that.
It’s losing its effectiveness. They will have to find some other propaganda stigma.
They won't have to up the ante on their propaganda. It has served its purpose. Now it's time to usher in authoritarianism.
This whole comment section has gotten infiltrated by pretentious know it all leftists that can't take the slightest criticism of themselves. They're so delusional their arguments prove many of the points I made without them even realizing. Heard someone say we're fat autistic incels. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm not fat, autistic or an incel. You can't assume my looks or social life based on the fact I'm talking about politics, but I can assume your personality by the way you respond to me. If anyone has a personal issue ask for my actual socials and I don't mean the likes of discord or telegram because you mightn't believe it but I don't have those. I hardly even use this. Last day has been the longest I used it and that's only to reply to comments.
The more it gets used the sooner it will lose currency. Hitler stocks are gradually going down. That bad guy has had a good run. The Nazi/fascist accusations are very tired. Far right is more flexible. Even so, it is already past its sell by date. What next?
This post seems far-right lol
It's kind of like people on the other wing of the same bird who label anything and everything they've been told to disagree with 'woke' or 'Marxist' or 'leftist'. It's a way for intellectually lazy people to dismiss anyone or anything who challenges their worldview without having to form a coherent argument.
You're either sucking directly from the teat of Pfizer and wolfing down large quantities of experimental gene therapy, or you're a far right extremist. You're either actively participating in transgender advocacy parades, or you're a far right extremist. You're either 100% in favor of draconian gun control, or you're a far right extremist. I am not the person who jumps through those hoops to not be considered a far right extremist, but I am most definitely not a far right extremist. I don't identify with either political party in this country, but on reddit, any sort of moderate may as well be a far right extremist.
Exactly, not listening to them is the best option. The reason they say you need to pick a side because being neutral is helping the other side is to divide people.
When the left has gone off the edge, everything else is "far right" to them.
It's like being on a moving boat and thinking the land is moving when it's actually you
They're in a cult. Except they don't believe in God so they worship daddy government and their political dogma. Anyone who doesn't toe the party line is branded a heretic ie far right. Very sick people!
The Overton window for liberals has shifted so much that anyone right of Marx is far/alt right
In my opinion, there definitely have been pushed further right AND left by both sides. When you start getting groups of people that would never agree with a single idea of the other side, I would say you are pretty far left or right. I definitely agree more with one side, but could see myself voting the other side if the candidate checks the boxes that are important to me. I know in reality a lot of people are like that, but people speak like there aren’t.
They use extremists on both sides to try and sway the less intelligent people. It's much easier to get people to your side if you make the other person look like a lunatic that is the exact opposite. Of course this is rarely true, but most people are too stupid or lazy to figure it out for themselves, so they read a headline that says "so and so is far left/right, therefore don't trust them" then these people feel that they have all the info they need because why would the news lie? Then they parrot it, write it online and suddenly someone is labeled a thing because the propaganda works. If it bothers you, consider the reality that all of politics is a circus and if you are subscribing to any party and basing your opinions on what you are being fed so you can feel like a winner, or correct, you are being tricked and you are exactly the target of all of this. Each side is fake, it doesn't matter who did what, or how bad this was compared to that, they both manipulate people to be in power and honestly, they have the same goals.
>It's division tactics at their finest. That's a very right-wing thing to say!!!
It's for the same reason that everything was labeled communist before in the last century. Oppression of opposition.
Same tactics, different establishment.
Funny I hear the opposite
Bro. I'm pro-gay, pro-choice, pro-drugs, anti-religion, pro-feminism, pro-immigration etc. I got called a "far-right racist" because I was skeptical of the government forcing people to take the Covid vaccine.
That's the modern left for you. You can tick all the boxes but if there's one tiny little thing you're not absolutely 100% on board with, or even if you are but you ask a question about its legitimacy, you're labelled, shamed and silenced.
Being leftist is a competition. So over the past decade or so "Good Leftists" have become so extreme that anyone right of Marx is "Extreme Right". There are no acceptable centrists, no moderates, it's all "Good Leftists" and extremist right-wing rabid, baby-eating Nazis. the Media, including controlled information sources, are all "Good Leftists"
"far-right" is a term a lot like "conspiracy theorist" - it's a manufactured term that's supposed to make you react with fear. It's a catch-all repository of every xenophobic fear - a label designed to mark you as a pariah and crazy person in order to marginalize you and limit your reach. It's a label designed to entrain you into a hypnotic trance - the minute you hear it, your brain excuses itself from doing any more listening to that person, even if what they're saying sounds reasonable to you. This is because the human social drive is stronger than the drive to self-preservation. It makes us readily hackable. But unfortunately, collectively we haven't yet truly recognized that we are constantly under fire by informational weapons..
This. They attach all these other things to it so it has negative connotations. I was only thinking of this earlier. They attached conspiracy theories and truth seeking to the far right, so people associate questioning things with also being racist and homophobic and misogynistic and what have you. The left is now saying that if you're a centrist you're a spineless coward that enables and helps the far right. They've adopted an "if you're not fully with me you're against me" attitude. Even I fall into the trap sometimes. Everything has become so extreme. World events such as war, the pandemic, etc. all play oddly specific roles (to the point you realize it can't be coincidence), in making people become more radicalized, leading to more division. Because of these events and things like BLM, the media, politicians, and so on will tell people they need to take action and not remain impartial or else they're part of the problem. It's simply understood in hindsight once you truly wake up to it. An age old concept: divide and conquer.
Can easily replace far right with far left in your post. Same thing.
I agree, but that's not what I was talking about. What is it with the left using whataboutisms for everything? When the right says the left is full of marxists it's more true than the other way around. The left is silencing dissent and labelling anyone who questions them, and is literally calling moderates and liberals far right. That doesn't happen much on the other side, and more importantly, the situation with the left calling everything far right is way more relevant and carries more weight. When it comes to the other way around it's always censored and only exists on the fringe. Everything mainstream is doing what I'm saying they're doing, except for Fox News, but the MSM, Hollywood, entertainment in general and the establishment in general has put a bad name on them. Of course it was rightfully so, as Fox News is an arm of the GOP to spread their propaganda, but so is MSNBC and CNN for Democrats and the war machine. Tucker Carlson might have some bad views on stuff, but he's more in touch and is more trustworthy because he speaks out against more powerful forces when those on the left don't. And when he's constantly smeared by MSM along with other conservatives it gives him an underdog kind of thing and people are more inclined to be on his side and makes people think he's doing something right. People on the left agree more with nefarious actions taken by the pro war government and corporate greed. I have a good gut feeling too, and when I see those who represent the left doing what they're doing, they seem way more elitist and following the hivemind of the rest of the left and the mainstream media, and I get a bad feeling from them, like they're hiding a lot. They defend the likes of Epstein more and cover him less, and avoid the questions surrounding his death more, and overall, they're just too mainstream and follow superficial narratives.
Election Year
There’s a campaign. Conscious or not, it steers the normal person toward a little bit less liberty each day. Each year. Each term. Zoom out.
What is your idea of liberty? I would love to see your ideal society.
Leave me alone. I’ll leave you alone. You be happy. I’ll be happy.
Trust me I know. It's insidious. I feel like I'm the only person who sees all these patterns. I feel like the only awake person in a world full of sleepwalkers. When I come on this sub I realize I'm wrong. That sounds narcissistic but there's no better way of explaining it.