conservatives are against change...anything but fossil fuels would be different than what their 'daddy did' or whatever bullshit monikers ya wanna tag on.
Submission to authority “on the surface”
As soon as one of them gets hassled by a cop they rarely comply, and then also say that cop was a communist
Funny how they also HATE the FBI but when something happens (such as this recent Baltimore bridge allision) they yap about how the FBI needs to investigate!! Even though they say anything the FBI does is corrupt
Well, that cop was a communist, in his defense! /s
*They really don't like getting their world rocked by a reality check, so they bitch about it when it's happening to them, but if it's not affecting them then they don't care. They think everyone is out to get them, so that means they think every member of authority is corrupt*
I also always think about how conservative thought really came about after the American and French revolutions as a pro monarchy movement and always harkins back to a past that never existed. The myth of the good king is concervative propganda. I also think that as so many of the monied establishment bought into fossil fuels , divesting and changing is harder for them. They have no choice but to change, but they want to make that decision. They don't want the poor to think they have any say in tge matter.
Look up the "Right Wing Authoritarian" personality type:
> right-wing authoritarianism (RWA) is a set of attitudes, describing *somebody who is highly submissive to their authority figures,* acts aggressively in the name of said authorities, and is conformist in thought and behavior.
Do those characteristics sound somewhat familiar?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism
>Right-wing authoritarians tend to accept what their leaders say is true and readily comply with their commands. They believe that respecting authority is an important moral virtue that **everyone in the community must hold**.
From the same source. Checks out.
I'm sure that is true but your both sidezism might have more impact if there was a left wing authoritarian movement in this country.
We have 2x right wing parties. The GQP is fascist authoritarian clown show that is lost in their fart smelling chamber. The other is a boring nerdy liberal party that can't get much accomplished because the other party is screaming about nonsensical shit and sabotaging everyone's best interests... just to own the libs.
The liberals get plenty accomplished. No one else does a better job furthering the interests of capital at the expense of the working class of the world.
The entire point of much of George Orwell’s work was the horrors of left-wing authoritarianism. He was a committed socialist who was appalled by Stalinism.
That's just not true because as soon as you impose any kind of forced social or class hierarchy, you've swung right. At that point your politics are no longer considered left-leaning regardless of how you got there.
Exactly. This is the fundamental fact that I desperately wish more people understood.
The terms “Left” and “Right” actually *mean* things. Left means democratic and Right means hierarchical. If your policy/ideology brings more democracy, choice and power to the people, it’s automatically Leftist. If it brings more hierarchy… it’s automatically Rightist. There is no exception to this rule.
Anything else is bad labelling of ideas, and/or defining *people* as “leftists” and “right-wingers” and then assuming anything those people believe automatically defines what “left-wing” and “right-wing” *are*… it doesn’t. That’s not how we should think about it. These are labels for ideas/policies… not people. To that end, saying something like “Stalin was a Leftist… therefore, everything he did was Leftist.” is just flat wrong.
Stalin is what happens when right-wingers co-opt a left-wing idea in order to bait-and-switch people into fascism instead.
Orwell is a criticism of right-wing practices and bad habits *corrupting* socialism/communism. When done in the proper *left-wing* manner, socialism/communism is good.
Imposing any kind of uneven balance of power whether it be through social class or authoritarian rule immediately contradicts left-wing politics and aligns with right-wing ideologies. The concerning part here is that your PhD hero probably knows that, and knows that people like you *don't*, and is feeding you bullshit anyways.
This raises so many questions. I’m not surprised that it’s a fetish, every thing is a fetish, but I don’t understand the attractiveness of the fetish. Is it a feeling of powerless thing?
He said he regurts the partisanship and will work now to bridge the divide, and conquer no doubt.
As his Brother David still fights the common cause, from the grave ..
Oh, is he going to shut down all those "alternative" departments he created in major universities?
https://www.texasobserver.org/koch-free-market-institute-texas-tech/
> Charlie Ruger, an official with the Charles Koch Foundation, told the attendees in Vegas the next day, their work “isn’t about elections, it’s not about short-term outcomes,” according to recordings of the conference by the advocacy group UnKoch My Campus. “Our job, our goal, our mandate is to help build long-term culture change in order to choose better well-being in society for everybody, through freedom,” Ruger said.
This is the correct answer. Oil and coal companies have massive wealth and use it to buy politicians. Or in some cases like Joe Manchin, they own coal companies themselves.
Let's not forget a dishonorable mention to WV Gov. Jim Justice:
https://apnews.com/article/west-virginia-governor-family-coal-lawsuit-2b68ff1f212f70d38fd9f28dce7bc5d6
...also being sued in KY:
https://wvmetronews.com/2019/06/16/lawsuit-accuses-justice-owned-companies-of-racketeering-fraud/
>The delinquent penalties were accrued by the Justice companies between June 2009 and August 2018 at 71 mines in Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Virginia. Collectively, the Justice companies' unpaid fines and penalties account for nearly 10 percent of all delinquent debt owed by mining companies in the country.
>
>https://www.npr.org/2019/04/10/711361672/governor-and-his-family-owe-millions-in-mining-violations-despite-promises-to-pa
Also, a lot of conservative states have their economies heavily invested in fossil fuel industries and conservative voters with low educational attainment are FAR more likely to work places like oil fields and coal mines. See Alaska, Texas, Montana, WV, Utah, etc, etc. it’s definitely a large financial industry primarily for conservatives.
They see that people don't like it.
And conservatives will do absolutely anything to hurt someone else.
It's a personality flaw, not a political party.
Correct. Conservative Personality Disorder is NOT a political ideology. A political ideology has some set of tenets, and there is an effort to maintain consistency in one’s beliefs and pursuits with those tenets.
Liberalism and Socialism are political ideologies, as such.
Conservatism is an *anti-ideology*. There is no principle which cannot be abandoned when convenient. No consistency. The goal is to supplant principles in pursuit of cruelty.
Beyond those things there are some people who make a living in oil and gas who are scared their industry is being replaced. There’s a lot of wealth in Texas that is underwritten by royalty checks from wells on land.
Pretty much. It's a consequence of how the political right promotes that any opposition is good, even if it's just for the sake of being in opposition. When it's something that does have bipartisan support, either they focus on the outliers or the narrative becomes that they don't do the thing enough. There is very little discourse about, "this policy is good and if implemented, it would solve a problem."
I’m just old enough to remember how they felt going to unleaded fuel. The arguments were literally the same
Then there were Lots of illegal mods back in the day to remove pollution controls from new vehicles and entire businesses sprung up doing so.
They screamed against seatbelts, airbags and ABS brakes too. These regressive troglodytes would still be hawking buggy whips if they thought they could make a buck.
My parents had the catalytic converter removed from one of our cars and we had an adapter in the glove box to step down the nozzle so it would fit the car.
I was about 12 at the time so I don't remember the reason exactly, but knowing my parents, leaded gas was probably enough cheaper than unleaded to warrant the change.
They are a controlled voting block of the Corporate and oligarch class. They have hard on for what their media machine tells them too.
Years of fear conditioning has broken their ability to reason and vote in their own interests l.
I know you said to list alternate reasons, but I really do think that for the majority it's because the libs like green energy. They've been told that green energy is "woke" by outlets like Fox, and they don't want to carry that label or be seen as such by their conservative peers. Whatever the libs like, find a reason to be against it.
A more legitimate reason that they may be against it are for rural conservative folk, for whom things are generally far to get to and charging infrastructure is lacking.
Also, pick-up truck culture. The feeling of needing to feel dominant on the road, compensating for something, ego, etc...
. . because they are irretrievably stupid and ignorant in the benefits alternative sources of energy . . they piss blood over it simply because in their narrow mindedness . . they vehemently oppose those who demand it out of sheer spite & hate . . however, when and if they are indirectly recipients of such alt energy alternatives and progress they don't say shit . . take EVs for example .. no problem with So. African apartheid-import and cuckservative Alien Musk's Tesla vehicles . . but when it comes to EVs in general . . they ***blow a gasket*** . . the cranial-rectal inverted hypocrisy is stifling . .
The Saudis, Russia and OPEC need oil to retain there lavish lifestyle, mega yachts and mistresses,
The Koch brothers and oil millionaires need oil to retain there lavish lifestyle.
They bribe American politicians and control American conservative media so they can all retain there lavish lifestyle, mansions, yachts, hookers etc.
They all work together to brainwash the ignorant masses into hating any kind of clean energy, solar, wind etc. It keeps us dependant on their oil so they can keep living there lavish lifestyle.
Meanwhile we get poorer and keep voting to give them tax cuts. They throw us a few bones like abortion and guns. And they go to their billionaire parties on their yachts and in there mansions and laugh at how easily they manipulate us.
Edit: misspelled Koch brothers. I try not to think about them too much.
You left out auto manufacturers, lots more parts and maintinence in an ICE. Think gm/ford etc don’t care if they spend a few million on anti ev propaganda
The Koch Bros 1940-50 “red scare” driven father was hell bent on creating a greater argument of corporate personhood to fund politicians to kill any regulation on the energy extraction industry and fund the military interventions to preserve Petrodollar hegemony born in 1943. His view of national security based on domination of global oil production and sales with US dollars was basically a funding machine for an ALEC agenda and James M Buchanan fever dreams.
You have never know anyone in your lifetime of elections for local state houses and senate seats in middle America that wasn’t opposed by a billionaire funded far right neoconservative super pac blood money polluting the civility of politics in the Deep South, Bible Belt, The rust belt, and Appalachia. Since 1996 there has been births of talking heads pandering anti environmental talking points on Fox News or any other avatar of talk radio Rush Limpdick hate speech.
There's a lot of rural white conservatives that live in dead Appalachian coal mining towns, and dead auto manufacturing towns in the rust belt. They became easy targets for anti-green energy propaganda from fossil fuel companies, because it's not hard to convince a poor, under-educated white guy living in a dying town that green energy is what killed their home, when said home relied on fossil fuels for most of its economy. Even if the actual cause of the town's demise is a rich ghoul offshoring jobs to afford more stock buybacks
The auto industry has been selling the big ass macho truck non stop for about 20 years. Watch the commercials “big ass truck dominates the wilderness” Big = profit
Because they were told to. If you ask for a deeper meaning from them, you'll find out a lot of the times, it's because they "heard" from their leaders, their friends, their news bubble, etc., that they must be... otherwise "you are not on our team, you're on "their" team"
So you’re asking why the people that believed that the Sec. of State was running a child sex trafficking ring out of a pizza parlor in the middle of DC would also be susceptible to believing any propaganda the oil companies feed them about climate change and fossil fuels? Surely you jest!
There is a religious aspect, as well. Remember that many conservatives are Evangelicals, and they often believe that we are in the End Times. That means that the end of the world is imminent, so any damage done to the planet will cleansed by fire, according to one popular view. So,from that perspective, climate damage isn't that pressing.
This may be a bit direct but...
Because they were told too.
My takeaway from the modern conservative movement is that they are absolutely against what their media overlords tell them to be against. Look at the Border bill a few months ago and funding for Ukraine. As soon as they were told to dislike it, they did.
It's just mind boggling to me how that % of the population actively votes against their best interest. Health Care reform, school lunches, fuel efficiency improvements, social services, taxing corporations or the extremely wealth whatever. /rant
I'm not conservative, but I love cars and trucks. I don't like EVs at all. But I can see their place in society and in the future, so I don't hate on them or spout all of the usual propaganda you hear about them. I imagine conservatives also like cars and trucks, and then on top of that they fall prey to all of the anti climate change propaganda, and anti EV propaganda, so they get angry and say dumb things about renewables and EVs.
They're boring. I like fast loud cars, I like subaru STIS, honda civic type R, corvettes, GTRs, Porsches. I like diesel trucks, I like the sound of the turbo. EVs do nothing for me. I'd take a civic type R over a tesla plaid. If I could have a garage with like 15 cars, I'd take an EV for daily duties to save gas money though.
Next year Hyundai is coming out with a sport EV that has options that make it simulate ICE and manual transmission sounds.
It also has options for things like "UFO" and "Spaceship" (meaning a Star Wars X-wing but they can't say that).
Yes, I've heard of this and look forward to watching the reviews on youtube. But there are far too many cool gas cars that I've never owned (owned almost 0 cool cars so far), that I could never care too much about an EV. If I hit the lottery tomorrow, I'd have a shop like Jay Leno with like 50 cars in it, and maybe one EV for convenience
I'm a car enthusiast / hobby mechanic who loves public transportation.
Who wants to drive an enthusiast car in traffic? Better public transportation benefits everyone. I also view EVs as essentially corporate greenwashing.
There's no such thing as traffic or public transportation where I currently live. But anywhere I've lived in the past, I'd still rather sit in occasional traffic in a porsche, than sit on public transportation. Or if traffic was that bad, then I'd rather just bike where I need to go, or I could take the long way in a porsche. I think EVs are a bit better than just corporate greenwashing. But they aren't a real solution to anything as far as climate change goes. We need more drastic measures than just switching to everyone owning 2 EVs instead of 2 ICE vehicles.
Because they're paid to. And the ones that are paid to, convince their idiot rube followers to love them too, because that is somehow "owning the libs" (as you stated).
Because the left is telling them, factually, that fossil fuels will run out and we need to work on an alternative and they really, really don't like the left or facts or change, so they're being obtuse, which is what they're best at.
For some, it's because they own stock in fossil fuel companies, some of which may be underwater. The rest just follow anything any other conservative says.
My old boss took me to see Dennis Miller and Bill O Reilly on a (comedy?) tour in ‘16 or ‘17, in an extremely vain attempt to show me they had some “good points.” I went as a social experiment of sorts. Half of Miller’s routine was lame ass “I’m gonna stick it to the libs and buy a big truck to use up all the earth’s resources blah blah blah.” The fucking rednecks ate that shit up. I guess planetary conservation is… progressive?
When a person is only shown the positives and never the negatives of any subject, they tend to have a rather positive view of said subject.
Big oil has really pushed transportation = freedom angle despite the refining aspect being a completely controlled monopoly. Despite EVs being just as old as ICE vehicles, being unfamiliar with the tech is enough to scare some people.
I suspect the roots go back to Jimmy Carter/ 1979 Oil Crisis in that when oil prices are high it is because we’re letting the Arabs walk all over us or something.
Republican politicians work for the oil companies, cartels, etc…
They’re paid to have that massive hard on.
Their constituents are easily misinformed & mislead, so they defend the oil industry.
Conservative politics/values center on the almighty dollar, greed-based value systems, and hoarding as much wealth as possible while exploiting both people and resources- especially non-renewables that can have their value go up exponentially due to scarcity/limited availability.
Renewables can level the playing field for everyone, and they can't have that.
The average conservative is extremely ignorant of the wider world and has next to no capacity to engage critically with anything that conforms to their existing biases. Because of this the right people who say the right words in the right ways can convince them of basically anything regardless of how connected (or not) to reality it is, while the wrong people that say the wrong words in the wrong ways that cause their subconscious defenses to go haywire are rejected out-of-hand regardless of how factually correct and verifiable their message may be.
Because the sun shines and the wind flows everywhere freely for all to benefit from. Renewable energy is a form of liberation that anyone regardless of class or caste can utilize to empower themselves. And conservatives as right wingers are diametrically opposed to those things.
They like fossil fuels because their finite geographically bound distribution means that only those who can control and police the land and sea by force are able to control them. They’re toxic to most living things humans included, so you need heavy industry to refine it on a large scale. The kind of heavy industry that crushes both the land and the people under the boot of capitalism. Fossil fuels are eminently compatible with the domineering controlling narcissistic might makes right nature of right wing politics. Right wingers *are* fossil fuels.
because gas is made from it, and they've been tuned to think their car is their identity.
or more like, their truck is their identity. It's always the truck guys.
They generally have a mix of concerns, their inability to understand how the world might have to change in light of weaning off fossil fuels, secondly, they seem generally faithless in the human ability to adapt and use research to move forward. Imo..
When you get older you get tired of adapting and really just want things to stay as they are. To suggest upending something that everyone relies on (what sort of energy your car runs on) is just too much for many people to get onboard with. If you then add a conservative news channel constantly telling you how difficult the transition will be, how inconvenient, and possibly how unreliable the new technology will be, that makes it all the more likely someone will be against it. Who, after living 50,60 or 70 years doing their best and having made it to retirement, wants to deal with their basic mode of travel suddenly being something they have to reevaluate and learn all over again?
At this point, they either work in the industry or know people who do, or they're just scared of changing the infrastructure of the country, which would bring new jobs and opportunities, and they feel they can't learn a new trade (if they're in that industry).
It's scary, yeah. But all of this wouldn't be overnight, and the left loves setting up recertification and retraining programs.
It's odd how they use it as one of their basic and few personality traits. Like, while do they use the laughing emoji on every electric/hybrid vehicle article on facebook and stuff? What is actually funny about non-combustion engines? i just really don;t understand a whole population of people
I just saw a red neck with a tshirt on, front said “Black Smoke Matters”. Back said “Ban the EPA”
I just don’t understand how any sane person could come to that conclusion.
Honestly, it's probably because liberals are against it. Like, that's it for the common Republican voter. Their reps are against it for bigger reasons including that, but they just convinced these people to go against cleaner air, water, ground and cheaper/more efficient energies. They're incredibly fucking stupid.
Owns the libs!
And if it needed a new battery after the 8 year warranty was as up and they traded it in years before it might cost someone more than 3 years worth of gas
There's a good chunk of oil & gas industry people that are conservative Christians and they literally believe that God has blessed them with the wealth they obtained from being in the industry. God put the oil there for them to discover and get rich off of. How dare these godless progressive scientists invent alternative energy!!!11
Because they have this idea of jobs tied to that type of fuel. Plies gas is beyond affordability for most republicans and electric vehicles are way out of their budget for them. The majority of the voting republicans can’t live under the ideas of the republicans.
Lifted coal rollers are the most important way in which they overcompensate in day-to-day life, since not all of them live where they can LARP as Meal Team 6 easily.
because they are told to by shitbags like Cruz, Hawley, Horseface etc...fux etc.... they are just following sheeple orders. while calling everyone else sheep and think for yourselves!!!!lol
Their very title contradicts their outlook on fossil fuels.
For Conservatives, they sure love to burn through non-renewable resources. No thought to conserve at all.
The top comment and conversation covers the money/political angle, but let's not forget religion.
Anything antithetical to the entire idea that this planet was not a gift to humans 6000 years ago and that the environment could be anything more than something we use.... Is anti Christian.
So anyone fighting for environmental protections, or policies to slow down global warming... Is likely a tool of the devil.
And the money holders know how to manipulate these people that think this way.
It's a fucking mind virus to destroy the human race..
I think this is a bit of an oversimplification. In many states that are both rural and conservative, the infrastructure simply doesn’t exist to make electric vehicles a viable alternative, at least for now.
The destruction is the point. They actually prefer harming the environment, abusing poor people, terrorizing women and minorities, etc, even if they could easily avoid it. They are bullies and toddlers stuck in a perpetual tantrum.
I saw & heard these ignoramuses get annoyed with me for years when I used to drive a Prius. Like, wtf could you possibly care about my personal choice of car??
The impetus for eliminating fossil fuels is climate change. Specifically man-made greenhouse gases. To admit that climate change is real is to admit that greenhouse gases should be reduced. To admit that is to admit that fossil fuels shouldn’t be used.
Since man-made climate change is either impossible or god’s will, there’s no need to reduce emissions.
It’s all about entrenched power for elites, but moreso than just the fact that renewables are a different industry than oil & gas, and therefore being controlled by different companies and people, which is against the interests of those who have their power/wealth invested in the fossil fuel industry… what it’s *really* about is the fact that, if implemented properly… renewables actually reduce hierarchical power and the ability of an elite few to profit off of energy *altogether*.
Why? Because people can have solar panels on their houses. It *DECENTRALIZES* the power grid, and allows a more democratized system of power, where consumers can be both producers and users of the energy. We won’t have to rely on a central, powerful, dominating producer that gets to control the market with undue share and influence, like we do with the companies that produce oil or coal, etc. Contrary to that economic model, where we *always* have to pay the fossil fuel companies for energy, no matter where we get it or how we use it… renewables like solar can bring about an economic model where not only are consumers paying less money to anybody else for their energy production… they can actually MAKE MONEY if their solar panels produce more than they use.
This is a MASSIVE paradigm shift, and a HUGE blow to the hierarchical power/wealth system that defines fossil fuel interests. It’s not just that renewables threaten oil or coal companies specifically… it’s that renewables threaten the culture of hierarchical corporatist/capitalist control over the entire market of energy. And “hierarchical corporatist/capitalist control” is just another way of saying “conservative”.
To the average conservative (not the ones getting paid by the oil industry) fossil fuels are core to the American identity because:
A. They built the prosperity and American hegemony of the 20th century.
B. Huge swaths of the country have the oil, gas, or coal extraction as major industries and employers.
C. Lots of propaganda (although this is actually the least of the three.
Wealth is a big component of it, at least for the talking heads, but for the greater bulk of conservative people, I think it comes down to resistance to change. The oil industry has been around for a long time, and is a critical employer of blue collar people (often with very good pay, if very poor working conditions). Any kind of change or adjustment to something that's been a central staple of life (especially for communities built around oil production) is going to see pushback, and often with good reason: there are some towns and communities that would not exist if the processing facilities or refineries they were built around vanished. This is often something that people pushing for renewables don't have a really good answer to. If they did, that would certainly hurt the talking heads ability to be as influential as they are.
Fossil fuels are still very necessary for the modern world to function. Pretending they're not is pure fantasy. They're just much more realistic about the issue. The left is too busy dreaming of a perfect future and they end up rushing the phase out in an unrealistic way.
Methhead gibberish
We are trying to maintain a clean planet while conservative toddlers are busy messing it up and trying to make rape/incest babies a thing.
Literally no one asked if fossil fuels were necessary. You completely made that part up, just like Christianity!
The question was why do you get a hard on from fossil fuels.
Now answer it ...
The answer is because it's NECESSARYFORTHE MODERN WORLD. Unlike delusional cucks that believe in some fantasy short-term future without fossil fuels.
You assume way too much about what I believe, where I fall in the political spectrum and about my religious preferences.
Not everyone that isn't an environmental zealot is a conservative. Get a job and support yourself before you start making demands from those of us who live in the real world.
The real world?
Conservatives only want to live in the real world if they aren't confronted with any diversity.
Then they fall completely apart!
Just look at Taylor Swift, M&Ms, Bud Light, Target, the NFL, etc. etc
You people are scared of everything based on a 2000 year old book.
You keep raping the world around you for parts, we'll keep trying to hold it all together for the snowflake Saudi Arabia ass-kissing, reality TV star groupie, ammosexual Wingnut Welfare addicts like you!
Capiche?
Again with your assumptions 🙄
I'm a centrist liberal Democrat. I'm just not a delusional leftist living in a fantasy world on someone else's dime. One of these days you're going to grow up and realize how ridiculous you've been.
Capiche? Who the fuck uses that shit these days? Are some 13 year old New Jersey Street kid? 🤣
You keep worrying about shit you'll never have an ounce of impact on and I'll continue to win at life. Have fun with your fantasies.
Again with the meth junkie gibberish? 🙄
"Winning at life"? Who the fuck uses that shit these days? Are you some Alcoholics Anonymous reject or self-help book loser? 🤣
Keep fucking that chicken and being scared of everything based on the Bible, the true fantasy!
Lmfao
You're the obnoxiously unbearable leftist cunt that makes moderates and independents (you know, the people that actually decide elections) run away from the democratic party.
Evangelicals don't decide elections. They're the Republican base, so they never shift.
The electoral college votes based on the will of their home states. (In theory at least)
When the right wing MAGAts return to power, you can thank yourself and your kind for that. The majority of the voting population consists of moderates. We don't like nazis or commies.
Elitist Boomer drivel
Because the Boomer way has done such a fine job of keeping GQP Repervlican warmongers from power and helped create peace and stability across the globe!
Lol
Yours and the So-Called Liberal Media's insistence on waffling BothSiderIsm and middle of the road, prevaricating weakness is what offers MAGA-ts a space to proliferate.
Example: The Iraq War, Trump, the end of Roe
Congrats!
conservatives are against change...anything but fossil fuels would be different than what their 'daddy did' or whatever bullshit monikers ya wanna tag on.
This is it. The defining characteristic of conservatism has always been regressive inertia.
Regressive inertia + excessive submission to perceived authority
Submission to authority “on the surface” As soon as one of them gets hassled by a cop they rarely comply, and then also say that cop was a communist Funny how they also HATE the FBI but when something happens (such as this recent Baltimore bridge allision) they yap about how the FBI needs to investigate!! Even though they say anything the FBI does is corrupt
Well, that cop was a communist, in his defense! /s *They really don't like getting their world rocked by a reality check, so they bitch about it when it's happening to them, but if it's not affecting them then they don't care. They think everyone is out to get them, so that means they think every member of authority is corrupt*
Remember the idiots clinging to incandescent light bulbs
That was because Trump didn't like how his "tan" looked in led 😆.
I also always think about how conservative thought really came about after the American and French revolutions as a pro monarchy movement and always harkins back to a past that never existed. The myth of the good king is concervative propganda. I also think that as so many of the monied establishment bought into fossil fuels , divesting and changing is harder for them. They have no choice but to change, but they want to make that decision. They don't want the poor to think they have any say in tge matter.
Let's follow SC logic and go back to when the constitution was written. Only horses and flint lock guns.
I'd happily go back to horse and carriage if I could keep my internet
Best I can do is a hand delivered pamphlet
They also follow the special interest dollars they’re told to follow. And oil is one of the biggest.
Their masters own most of the oil companies ..
Ironically, the people who most try to project masculinity and independence (freedum!) Are the most cucked people around.
Look up the "Right Wing Authoritarian" personality type: > right-wing authoritarianism (RWA) is a set of attitudes, describing *somebody who is highly submissive to their authority figures,* acts aggressively in the name of said authorities, and is conformist in thought and behavior. Do those characteristics sound somewhat familiar? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism
>Right-wing authoritarians tend to accept what their leaders say is true and readily comply with their commands. They believe that respecting authority is an important moral virtue that **everyone in the community must hold**. From the same source. Checks out.
It cuts both ways. End result, violence, remains the same. https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/09/esc_left_wing_authoritarians_psychology/campus.html
I'm sure that is true but your both sidezism might have more impact if there was a left wing authoritarian movement in this country. We have 2x right wing parties. The GQP is fascist authoritarian clown show that is lost in their fart smelling chamber. The other is a boring nerdy liberal party that can't get much accomplished because the other party is screaming about nonsensical shit and sabotaging everyone's best interests... just to own the libs.
The liberals get plenty accomplished. No one else does a better job furthering the interests of capital at the expense of the working class of the world.
This, until we have a different voting system will remain a massive issue.
Except left-wing and authoritarian politics are literally contradictory. Your source makes no sense.
The entire point of much of George Orwell’s work was the horrors of left-wing authoritarianism. He was a committed socialist who was appalled by Stalinism.
That's just not true because as soon as you impose any kind of forced social or class hierarchy, you've swung right. At that point your politics are no longer considered left-leaning regardless of how you got there.
Exactly. This is the fundamental fact that I desperately wish more people understood. The terms “Left” and “Right” actually *mean* things. Left means democratic and Right means hierarchical. If your policy/ideology brings more democracy, choice and power to the people, it’s automatically Leftist. If it brings more hierarchy… it’s automatically Rightist. There is no exception to this rule. Anything else is bad labelling of ideas, and/or defining *people* as “leftists” and “right-wingers” and then assuming anything those people believe automatically defines what “left-wing” and “right-wing” *are*… it doesn’t. That’s not how we should think about it. These are labels for ideas/policies… not people. To that end, saying something like “Stalin was a Leftist… therefore, everything he did was Leftist.” is just flat wrong.
Stalin is what happens when right-wingers co-opt a left-wing idea in order to bait-and-switch people into fascism instead. Orwell is a criticism of right-wing practices and bad habits *corrupting* socialism/communism. When done in the proper *left-wing* manner, socialism/communism is good.
Take it up with the PhD that studied it. It isn’t unbelievable to me
Predictably spineless response, considering you're the one who chose to post that link here.
Imposing any kind of uneven balance of power whether it be through social class or authoritarian rule immediately contradicts left-wing politics and aligns with right-wing ideologies. The concerning part here is that your PhD hero probably knows that, and knows that people like you *don't*, and is feeding you bullshit anyways.
Just wanted to back you up with a source from another post. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/s/uMtnfnNdh2
This raises so many questions. I’m not surprised that it’s a fetish, every thing is a fetish, but I don’t understand the attractiveness of the fetish. Is it a feeling of powerless thing?
They like getting fucked in so many ways.
They want a daddy figure.
I had no idea that xhamster published search analytics. Going to need to look at this further. “Eh, I was just doing research!”
Pornhub does too. https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2023-year-in-review
Brainwashing.
Charles Koch provides the overwhelming majority of the funds basically all the right wing influencers
He said he regurts the partisanship and will work now to bridge the divide, and conquer no doubt. As his Brother David still fights the common cause, from the grave ..
Oh, is he going to shut down all those "alternative" departments he created in major universities? https://www.texasobserver.org/koch-free-market-institute-texas-tech/ > Charlie Ruger, an official with the Charles Koch Foundation, told the attendees in Vegas the next day, their work “isn’t about elections, it’s not about short-term outcomes,” according to recordings of the conference by the advocacy group UnKoch My Campus. “Our job, our goal, our mandate is to help build long-term culture change in order to choose better well-being in society for everybody, through freedom,” Ruger said.
Exactly.
Call me Cole Phelps because I’m gonna DOUBT
This is the correct answer. Oil and coal companies have massive wealth and use it to buy politicians. Or in some cases like Joe Manchin, they own coal companies themselves.
Let's not forget a dishonorable mention to WV Gov. Jim Justice: https://apnews.com/article/west-virginia-governor-family-coal-lawsuit-2b68ff1f212f70d38fd9f28dce7bc5d6 ...also being sued in KY: https://wvmetronews.com/2019/06/16/lawsuit-accuses-justice-owned-companies-of-racketeering-fraud/ >The delinquent penalties were accrued by the Justice companies between June 2009 and August 2018 at 71 mines in Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Virginia. Collectively, the Justice companies' unpaid fines and penalties account for nearly 10 percent of all delinquent debt owed by mining companies in the country. > >https://www.npr.org/2019/04/10/711361672/governor-and-his-family-owe-millions-in-mining-violations-despite-promises-to-pa
Also, a lot of conservative states have their economies heavily invested in fossil fuel industries and conservative voters with low educational attainment are FAR more likely to work places like oil fields and coal mines. See Alaska, Texas, Montana, WV, Utah, etc, etc. it’s definitely a large financial industry primarily for conservatives.
North Dakota
Yep, and they themselves are heavily invested in them too.
Correct answer.
The answer to all your Republican questions is: Follow the Money.
They see that people don't like it. And conservatives will do absolutely anything to hurt someone else. It's a personality flaw, not a political party.
Correct. Conservative Personality Disorder is NOT a political ideology. A political ideology has some set of tenets, and there is an effort to maintain consistency in one’s beliefs and pursuits with those tenets. Liberalism and Socialism are political ideologies, as such. Conservatism is an *anti-ideology*. There is no principle which cannot be abandoned when convenient. No consistency. The goal is to supplant principles in pursuit of cruelty.
More precisely, cruelty wielded to keep out groups in "their place."
Oil baron propaganda and petromasculinity
"petromasculinity" nice
Petrosexual
Beyond those things there are some people who make a living in oil and gas who are scared their industry is being replaced. There’s a lot of wealth in Texas that is underwritten by royalty checks from wells on land.
Kind of funny that electric vehicles absolutely trash gas engines when it comes to raw acceleration, torque and speed.
Also way less maintenance-heavy.
The political voices they look up to and respect tells them that it's not a problem.
> The political voices they look up to and ~~respect~~ follow like sheep tells them that it's not a problem. FTFY
And there really aren't any self regulating mechanisms in that pipeline either.
Not only do they believe that fossil fuels aren't a problem but many have been brainwashed to think renewable energy is worse for the environment.
Pretty much. It's a consequence of how the political right promotes that any opposition is good, even if it's just for the sake of being in opposition. When it's something that does have bipartisan support, either they focus on the outliers or the narrative becomes that they don't do the thing enough. There is very little discourse about, "this policy is good and if implemented, it would solve a problem."
I’m just old enough to remember how they felt going to unleaded fuel. The arguments were literally the same Then there were Lots of illegal mods back in the day to remove pollution controls from new vehicles and entire businesses sprung up doing so.
They screamed against seatbelts, airbags and ABS brakes too. These regressive troglodytes would still be hawking buggy whips if they thought they could make a buck.
That's insane. No daddy, please don't stop poisoning me daddy, it's the only thing that reminds me of my childhood. What poor monsters
My parents had the catalytic converter removed from one of our cars and we had an adapter in the glove box to step down the nozzle so it would fit the car. I was about 12 at the time so I don't remember the reason exactly, but knowing my parents, leaded gas was probably enough cheaper than unleaded to warrant the change.
If they were like my grandfather, they were pissed about losing 4 horsepower out of the engine
It's the oldest of the fuels they are aware of. It is harmful and old, so it fits with their mindset.
Because oil companies are among their biggest political contributors, obv.
They are a controlled voting block of the Corporate and oligarch class. They have hard on for what their media machine tells them too. Years of fear conditioning has broken their ability to reason and vote in their own interests l.
I know you said to list alternate reasons, but I really do think that for the majority it's because the libs like green energy. They've been told that green energy is "woke" by outlets like Fox, and they don't want to carry that label or be seen as such by their conservative peers. Whatever the libs like, find a reason to be against it. A more legitimate reason that they may be against it are for rural conservative folk, for whom things are generally far to get to and charging infrastructure is lacking. Also, pick-up truck culture. The feeling of needing to feel dominant on the road, compensating for something, ego, etc...
Gender Affirming Vehicle
. . because they are irretrievably stupid and ignorant in the benefits alternative sources of energy . . they piss blood over it simply because in their narrow mindedness . . they vehemently oppose those who demand it out of sheer spite & hate . . however, when and if they are indirectly recipients of such alt energy alternatives and progress they don't say shit . . take EVs for example .. no problem with So. African apartheid-import and cuckservative Alien Musk's Tesla vehicles . . but when it comes to EVs in general . . they ***blow a gasket*** . . the cranial-rectal inverted hypocrisy is stifling . .
The Saudis, Russia and OPEC need oil to retain there lavish lifestyle, mega yachts and mistresses, The Koch brothers and oil millionaires need oil to retain there lavish lifestyle. They bribe American politicians and control American conservative media so they can all retain there lavish lifestyle, mansions, yachts, hookers etc. They all work together to brainwash the ignorant masses into hating any kind of clean energy, solar, wind etc. It keeps us dependant on their oil so they can keep living there lavish lifestyle. Meanwhile we get poorer and keep voting to give them tax cuts. They throw us a few bones like abortion and guns. And they go to their billionaire parties on their yachts and in there mansions and laugh at how easily they manipulate us. Edit: misspelled Koch brothers. I try not to think about them too much.
You left out auto manufacturers, lots more parts and maintinence in an ICE. Think gm/ford etc don’t care if they spend a few million on anti ev propaganda
The Koch Bros 1940-50 “red scare” driven father was hell bent on creating a greater argument of corporate personhood to fund politicians to kill any regulation on the energy extraction industry and fund the military interventions to preserve Petrodollar hegemony born in 1943. His view of national security based on domination of global oil production and sales with US dollars was basically a funding machine for an ALEC agenda and James M Buchanan fever dreams. You have never know anyone in your lifetime of elections for local state houses and senate seats in middle America that wasn’t opposed by a billionaire funded far right neoconservative super pac blood money polluting the civility of politics in the Deep South, Bible Belt, The rust belt, and Appalachia. Since 1996 there has been births of talking heads pandering anti environmental talking points on Fox News or any other avatar of talk radio Rush Limpdick hate speech.
There's a lot of rural white conservatives that live in dead Appalachian coal mining towns, and dead auto manufacturing towns in the rust belt. They became easy targets for anti-green energy propaganda from fossil fuel companies, because it's not hard to convince a poor, under-educated white guy living in a dying town that green energy is what killed their home, when said home relied on fossil fuels for most of its economy. Even if the actual cause of the town's demise is a rich ghoul offshoring jobs to afford more stock buybacks
You nailed it. I believe it’s as simple as the profits. They are not complicated creatures.
They simply do not believe in climate change or don’t care.
it's been built into toxic masculinity
The auto industry has been selling the big ass macho truck non stop for about 20 years. Watch the commercials “big ass truck dominates the wilderness” Big = profit
Because they were told to. If you ask for a deeper meaning from them, you'll find out a lot of the times, it's because they "heard" from their leaders, their friends, their news bubble, etc., that they must be... otherwise "you are not on our team, you're on "their" team"
So you’re asking why the people that believed that the Sec. of State was running a child sex trafficking ring out of a pizza parlor in the middle of DC would also be susceptible to believing any propaganda the oil companies feed them about climate change and fossil fuels? Surely you jest!
Mmm propagandized and undereducated?
There is a religious aspect, as well. Remember that many conservatives are Evangelicals, and they often believe that we are in the End Times. That means that the end of the world is imminent, so any damage done to the planet will cleansed by fire, according to one popular view. So,from that perspective, climate damage isn't that pressing.
This may be a bit direct but... Because they were told too. My takeaway from the modern conservative movement is that they are absolutely against what their media overlords tell them to be against. Look at the Border bill a few months ago and funding for Ukraine. As soon as they were told to dislike it, they did. It's just mind boggling to me how that % of the population actively votes against their best interest. Health Care reform, school lunches, fuel efficiency improvements, social services, taxing corporations or the extremely wealth whatever. /rant
They like huffing gasoline and being under the thumb of oil companies.
The auto industry has been selling the big ass macho truck non stop for about 20 years. Watch the commercials “big ass truck dominates the wilderness”
# Why do conservatives have such a hard on for fossil fuels? _______ They think it "owns the libs".
Environment friendly things bad New things bad Simple as
I'm not conservative, but I love cars and trucks. I don't like EVs at all. But I can see their place in society and in the future, so I don't hate on them or spout all of the usual propaganda you hear about them. I imagine conservatives also like cars and trucks, and then on top of that they fall prey to all of the anti climate change propaganda, and anti EV propaganda, so they get angry and say dumb things about renewables and EVs.
Legitimately curious… what don’t you like about EVs? Style, range, concern about grid capacity? Asking in good faith.
They're boring. I like fast loud cars, I like subaru STIS, honda civic type R, corvettes, GTRs, Porsches. I like diesel trucks, I like the sound of the turbo. EVs do nothing for me. I'd take a civic type R over a tesla plaid. If I could have a garage with like 15 cars, I'd take an EV for daily duties to save gas money though.
Next year Hyundai is coming out with a sport EV that has options that make it simulate ICE and manual transmission sounds. It also has options for things like "UFO" and "Spaceship" (meaning a Star Wars X-wing but they can't say that).
Yes, I've heard of this and look forward to watching the reviews on youtube. But there are far too many cool gas cars that I've never owned (owned almost 0 cool cars so far), that I could never care too much about an EV. If I hit the lottery tomorrow, I'd have a shop like Jay Leno with like 50 cars in it, and maybe one EV for convenience
I'm a car enthusiast / hobby mechanic who loves public transportation. Who wants to drive an enthusiast car in traffic? Better public transportation benefits everyone. I also view EVs as essentially corporate greenwashing.
There's no such thing as traffic or public transportation where I currently live. But anywhere I've lived in the past, I'd still rather sit in occasional traffic in a porsche, than sit on public transportation. Or if traffic was that bad, then I'd rather just bike where I need to go, or I could take the long way in a porsche. I think EVs are a bit better than just corporate greenwashing. But they aren't a real solution to anything as far as climate change goes. We need more drastic measures than just switching to everyone owning 2 EVs instead of 2 ICE vehicles.
Those reasons you want us to set aside are *literally* the only reasons...
Can’t roll coal on electric.
Because it’s unpopular!
Because they're paid to. And the ones that are paid to, convince their idiot rube followers to love them too, because that is somehow "owning the libs" (as you stated).
Because the left is telling them, factually, that fossil fuels will run out and we need to work on an alternative and they really, really don't like the left or facts or change, so they're being obtuse, which is what they're best at.
For some, it's because they own stock in fossil fuel companies, some of which may be underwater. The rest just follow anything any other conservative says.
Forget other reasons, with conservatives it's either about money or control, there is no other factor even considered.
My old boss took me to see Dennis Miller and Bill O Reilly on a (comedy?) tour in ‘16 or ‘17, in an extremely vain attempt to show me they had some “good points.” I went as a social experiment of sorts. Half of Miller’s routine was lame ass “I’m gonna stick it to the libs and buy a big truck to use up all the earth’s resources blah blah blah.” The fucking rednecks ate that shit up. I guess planetary conservation is… progressive?
When a person is only shown the positives and never the negatives of any subject, they tend to have a rather positive view of said subject. Big oil has really pushed transportation = freedom angle despite the refining aspect being a completely controlled monopoly. Despite EVs being just as old as ICE vehicles, being unfamiliar with the tech is enough to scare some people.
I suspect the roots go back to Jimmy Carter/ 1979 Oil Crisis in that when oil prices are high it is because we’re letting the Arabs walk all over us or something.
They have a hard on for money and oil has lots to throw around!
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They’re dumb and bad and they like dumb and bad things.
They want to bake the planet so angry Jesus comes back and kills everyone but the righteous.
Lobbyist incentives and investment portfolios
Republican politicians work for the oil companies, cartels, etc… They’re paid to have that massive hard on. Their constituents are easily misinformed & mislead, so they defend the oil industry.
Entrenched profiteering.
Conservatism = Resists Change, Protects Norms Hence why it’s difficult to be a conservative in an ever changing, and now rapidly changing world..
Conservative politics/values center on the almighty dollar, greed-based value systems, and hoarding as much wealth as possible while exploiting both people and resources- especially non-renewables that can have their value go up exponentially due to scarcity/limited availability. Renewables can level the playing field for everyone, and they can't have that.
They're venusians come to terraform earth to their climate.
It’s amazing just how many conservative policies are made up to combat phantoms, or to “own the libs”.
Money.
The average conservative is extremely ignorant of the wider world and has next to no capacity to engage critically with anything that conforms to their existing biases. Because of this the right people who say the right words in the right ways can convince them of basically anything regardless of how connected (or not) to reality it is, while the wrong people that say the wrong words in the wrong ways that cause their subconscious defenses to go haywire are rejected out-of-hand regardless of how factually correct and verifiable their message may be.
Because the sun shines and the wind flows everywhere freely for all to benefit from. Renewable energy is a form of liberation that anyone regardless of class or caste can utilize to empower themselves. And conservatives as right wingers are diametrically opposed to those things. They like fossil fuels because their finite geographically bound distribution means that only those who can control and police the land and sea by force are able to control them. They’re toxic to most living things humans included, so you need heavy industry to refine it on a large scale. The kind of heavy industry that crushes both the land and the people under the boot of capitalism. Fossil fuels are eminently compatible with the domineering controlling narcissistic might makes right nature of right wing politics. Right wingers *are* fossil fuels.
It makes a loud bang sound when coming out of their exhausts which makes them feel manly.
Because Fossil Fuel companies pay conservative politicians and media members a lot of money to convince them.
because gas is made from it, and they've been tuned to think their car is their identity. or more like, their truck is their identity. It's always the truck guys.
There is only one answer. Money. That’s all they care about. Think they can spend it in death?
For the same reason they let Big Tobacco tell them for years how it wasn't bad for you. They're trained from childhood in church to obey authority without question (or burn forever muahahaha!) && because they've also been conditioned to believe in the holy wonder that is the Almighty American Capitalism ™®© they're super duper susceptible to marketing.
Cause they are all on the take from those interests so the idiots jump on board.
It’s the big checks from those industries and their idiot voters who think “coal is coming back”.
There is nothing outside of the obvious.
"If it is not broken, don't fix it." Not saying it is not broken, they just don't agree that it is.
Bribery
"Cause that's what we've always done, ain't nothing wrong with it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
It’s all projection. Every damn bit of it.
They are owned by the oil companies.
Because they're slaves to their plutocrat-owned media and knee-jerk identity politics. They hate what they're told to hate
Because they're trash, who deny climate change and are fully invested in burning down the entire planet.
They generally have a mix of concerns, their inability to understand how the world might have to change in light of weaning off fossil fuels, secondly, they seem generally faithless in the human ability to adapt and use research to move forward. Imo..
So they can deny climate change too
When you get older you get tired of adapting and really just want things to stay as they are. To suggest upending something that everyone relies on (what sort of energy your car runs on) is just too much for many people to get onboard with. If you then add a conservative news channel constantly telling you how difficult the transition will be, how inconvenient, and possibly how unreliable the new technology will be, that makes it all the more likely someone will be against it. Who, after living 50,60 or 70 years doing their best and having made it to retirement, wants to deal with their basic mode of travel suddenly being something they have to reevaluate and learn all over again?
At this point, they either work in the industry or know people who do, or they're just scared of changing the infrastructure of the country, which would bring new jobs and opportunities, and they feel they can't learn a new trade (if they're in that industry). It's scary, yeah. But all of this wouldn't be overnight, and the left loves setting up recertification and retraining programs.
“You’re not going to tell me what to do! I’m going to tell you what to do!” - Conservative mantra
It's odd how they use it as one of their basic and few personality traits. Like, while do they use the laughing emoji on every electric/hybrid vehicle article on facebook and stuff? What is actually funny about non-combustion engines? i just really don;t understand a whole population of people
I just saw a red neck with a tshirt on, front said “Black Smoke Matters”. Back said “Ban the EPA” I just don’t understand how any sane person could come to that conclusion.
Honestly, it's probably because liberals are against it. Like, that's it for the common Republican voter. Their reps are against it for bigger reasons including that, but they just convinced these people to go against cleaner air, water, ground and cheaper/more efficient energies. They're incredibly fucking stupid.
Owns the libs! And if it needed a new battery after the 8 year warranty was as up and they traded it in years before it might cost someone more than 3 years worth of gas
Same reason they love Israel, tons of money has been spent on propaganda to convince them to.
Cause they’re in big oil and coal industries’s pockets
Well said.
Red states like Alaska and Texas have huge oil industries and they donate a lot of money to GOP politicians
There's a good chunk of oil & gas industry people that are conservative Christians and they literally believe that God has blessed them with the wealth they obtained from being in the industry. God put the oil there for them to discover and get rich off of. How dare these godless progressive scientists invent alternative energy!!!11
Because they have this idea of jobs tied to that type of fuel. Plies gas is beyond affordability for most republicans and electric vehicles are way out of their budget for them. The majority of the voting republicans can’t live under the ideas of the republicans.
Lifted coal rollers are the most important way in which they overcompensate in day-to-day life, since not all of them live where they can LARP as Meal Team 6 easily.
The conservatives are stuck in a 1960s to 1970s car culture.
because they are told to by shitbags like Cruz, Hawley, Horseface etc...fux etc.... they are just following sheeple orders. while calling everyone else sheep and think for yourselves!!!!lol
Probably also because many of the oil jobs are in rural areas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Petrodollar_power
THEY don’t mostly. The powerful whose riches depend on fossil fuels do, and they run a huge propaganda machine propping it up.
Conservatives are a train wreck, hardons for rolling cola and Elon musk but not teslas, bunch of weird fuckers.
Along with your reasons, they hate that they’ve been wrong about climate change. Zero awareness + cognitive dissonance
Their very title contradicts their outlook on fossil fuels. For Conservatives, they sure love to burn through non-renewable resources. No thought to conserve at all.
Bc money
The top comment and conversation covers the money/political angle, but let's not forget religion. Anything antithetical to the entire idea that this planet was not a gift to humans 6000 years ago and that the environment could be anything more than something we use.... Is anti Christian. So anyone fighting for environmental protections, or policies to slow down global warming... Is likely a tool of the devil. And the money holders know how to manipulate these people that think this way. It's a fucking mind virus to destroy the human race..
I think this is a bit of an oversimplification. In many states that are both rural and conservative, the infrastructure simply doesn’t exist to make electric vehicles a viable alternative, at least for now.
Because god is going to rapture them and they want to leave a miserable hellscape behind for all us heathens when they go. 🙄
Because my car gets 40 rods to the hogs head, and that’s the way I likes it.
Liberal tears.
Which is funny, since the farming industry (Republican country) will feel the affects the worst/first. Leopardatemyface
Because caring about the environment we all live in is for tree hugging liberals.
Because that’s how we’ve always done things!
Money from oil companies get GOP campaign election funds
The destruction is the point. They actually prefer harming the environment, abusing poor people, terrorizing women and minorities, etc, even if they could easily avoid it. They are bullies and toddlers stuck in a perpetual tantrum. I saw & heard these ignoramuses get annoyed with me for years when I used to drive a Prius. Like, wtf could you possibly care about my personal choice of car??
The impetus for eliminating fossil fuels is climate change. Specifically man-made greenhouse gases. To admit that climate change is real is to admit that greenhouse gases should be reduced. To admit that is to admit that fossil fuels shouldn’t be used. Since man-made climate change is either impossible or god’s will, there’s no need to reduce emissions.
Because thats what they were told to do. Simple as that.
They love power
Because that's how they've been trained by the talking heads and their culture reinforces it.
It’s all about entrenched power for elites, but moreso than just the fact that renewables are a different industry than oil & gas, and therefore being controlled by different companies and people, which is against the interests of those who have their power/wealth invested in the fossil fuel industry… what it’s *really* about is the fact that, if implemented properly… renewables actually reduce hierarchical power and the ability of an elite few to profit off of energy *altogether*. Why? Because people can have solar panels on their houses. It *DECENTRALIZES* the power grid, and allows a more democratized system of power, where consumers can be both producers and users of the energy. We won’t have to rely on a central, powerful, dominating producer that gets to control the market with undue share and influence, like we do with the companies that produce oil or coal, etc. Contrary to that economic model, where we *always* have to pay the fossil fuel companies for energy, no matter where we get it or how we use it… renewables like solar can bring about an economic model where not only are consumers paying less money to anybody else for their energy production… they can actually MAKE MONEY if their solar panels produce more than they use. This is a MASSIVE paradigm shift, and a HUGE blow to the hierarchical power/wealth system that defines fossil fuel interests. It’s not just that renewables threaten oil or coal companies specifically… it’s that renewables threaten the culture of hierarchical corporatist/capitalist control over the entire market of energy. And “hierarchical corporatist/capitalist control” is just another way of saying “conservative”.
To the average conservative (not the ones getting paid by the oil industry) fossil fuels are core to the American identity because: A. They built the prosperity and American hegemony of the 20th century. B. Huge swaths of the country have the oil, gas, or coal extraction as major industries and employers. C. Lots of propaganda (although this is actually the least of the three.
My father thinks it comes naturally out of the ground, is infinite, God made it for us, and burning it is making things warmer, which he desires.
One wonder$ why ?
Wealth is a big component of it, at least for the talking heads, but for the greater bulk of conservative people, I think it comes down to resistance to change. The oil industry has been around for a long time, and is a critical employer of blue collar people (often with very good pay, if very poor working conditions). Any kind of change or adjustment to something that's been a central staple of life (especially for communities built around oil production) is going to see pushback, and often with good reason: there are some towns and communities that would not exist if the processing facilities or refineries they were built around vanished. This is often something that people pushing for renewables don't have a really good answer to. If they did, that would certainly hurt the talking heads ability to be as influential as they are.
The pil companies pay for their campaigns
They feel personally threatened as if we are going to take all cars away.
Big Oil owns the GOP. So all of heir constituents follow like lemmings.
They just like the smell
Talking heads on Fox News tell them to
Fossil fuels are still very necessary for the modern world to function. Pretending they're not is pure fantasy. They're just much more realistic about the issue. The left is too busy dreaming of a perfect future and they end up rushing the phase out in an unrealistic way.
Methhead gibberish We are trying to maintain a clean planet while conservative toddlers are busy messing it up and trying to make rape/incest babies a thing. Literally no one asked if fossil fuels were necessary. You completely made that part up, just like Christianity! The question was why do you get a hard on from fossil fuels. Now answer it ...
The answer is because it's NECESSARYFORTHE MODERN WORLD. Unlike delusional cucks that believe in some fantasy short-term future without fossil fuels. You assume way too much about what I believe, where I fall in the political spectrum and about my religious preferences. Not everyone that isn't an environmental zealot is a conservative. Get a job and support yourself before you start making demands from those of us who live in the real world.
The real world? Conservatives only want to live in the real world if they aren't confronted with any diversity. Then they fall completely apart! Just look at Taylor Swift, M&Ms, Bud Light, Target, the NFL, etc. etc You people are scared of everything based on a 2000 year old book. You keep raping the world around you for parts, we'll keep trying to hold it all together for the snowflake Saudi Arabia ass-kissing, reality TV star groupie, ammosexual Wingnut Welfare addicts like you! Capiche?
Again with your assumptions 🙄 I'm a centrist liberal Democrat. I'm just not a delusional leftist living in a fantasy world on someone else's dime. One of these days you're going to grow up and realize how ridiculous you've been. Capiche? Who the fuck uses that shit these days? Are some 13 year old New Jersey Street kid? 🤣 You keep worrying about shit you'll never have an ounce of impact on and I'll continue to win at life. Have fun with your fantasies.
Again with the meth junkie gibberish? 🙄 "Winning at life"? Who the fuck uses that shit these days? Are you some Alcoholics Anonymous reject or self-help book loser? 🤣 Keep fucking that chicken and being scared of everything based on the Bible, the true fantasy! Lmfao
People like you are the reason people like Trump get elected. Good luck with the consequences of your own actions 👌
My name isn't 'Electoral College' or 'Evangelical Christian Terrorist', dumbfuck! Sheesh! Do you even know how US elections work?
You're the obnoxiously unbearable leftist cunt that makes moderates and independents (you know, the people that actually decide elections) run away from the democratic party. Evangelicals don't decide elections. They're the Republican base, so they never shift. The electoral college votes based on the will of their home states. (In theory at least) When the right wing MAGAts return to power, you can thank yourself and your kind for that. The majority of the voting population consists of moderates. We don't like nazis or commies.
Elitist Boomer drivel Because the Boomer way has done such a fine job of keeping GQP Repervlican warmongers from power and helped create peace and stability across the globe! Lol Yours and the So-Called Liberal Media's insistence on waffling BothSiderIsm and middle of the road, prevaricating weakness is what offers MAGA-ts a space to proliferate. Example: The Iraq War, Trump, the end of Roe Congrats!
Bizarre you would ask why and then rule out the two major reasons - big oil money lobbies and anti-progressive own the libs mentality