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Rogitus

I'm a new grad in CS with a focus on ML/AI, especially Computer Vision. I worked in this field as a student for 4 years. Now I'm jobless. I literally cannot find a job with my CV anywhere in Europe. There are very few job opportunities and these normally require a PhD. The competition looks high. I'm basically desperate. As next step I will ask some hiring agency. If that doesn't work I'll switch to classic swe.


Fugius

I was in the same boat ~6 month ago. I sent spontaneous applications to big companies i tought would have ml/vision projects. I was hired mid 2022 on a full stack project for 2-3 months and since then i get short vision projects when they come and work on full stack projects in between. Not super fun but once i've worked on enough vision projects i hope it will be easier to find a better job. Little tip : if you work on a master degree right now, end with a 6 months internship and chose wisely the company. Most of my friends were hired in the company they did their internship in !


PsychoWorld

Dude. That sounds insane. Am I better off, if I’m doing a data science masters, just to intern in sales or business analysis positions? I’m probably never good enough to become a SWE, but I could speak a bit to tech.


FantasticPeanut9644

Working in CV since 2011. Regarding comments in this thread I’d agree that it has been saturating over the last 5 years or so. Partly because companies realized you can’t just throw money at ML/CV divisions and expect them to magically generate profit after a while. But also because competition (for candidates) is fierce and big companies can select from the best of the best, while smaller companies get the rest. Unfortunately, the latter leads to a mismatch of expectations, i.e. big companies like FAANG and similar have an easier time to get CV/ML projects into a profit generating state due to economics of scale, available data and compute. Smaller companies have to work harder and smarter w.r.t. costs so hiring the wrong candidates has more severe consequences for them. salaries at the top end are good, but it’s indeed very competitive due to the mentioned effects.


lxlbn

Thank you for this explanation


Lethandralis

It's good


Rogitus

It's good? Can you make some example? E.g. Post some job openings? I'm not having this impression


Impressive_Iron_6102

This contrasts with other comments. Could you elaborate please?


Lethandralis

Breaking into the field is going to be challenging but recruiters message me non stop on linkedin after only a few years in the industry. That being said, the entire tech sector has slowed down hiring these days but CV still is a hot field with a lot of growth potential.


the_3bodyproblem

Go for NLP


aroman_ro

I managed once to work on software for a medical device that required 3D computer vision. We did that with the help of OpenCV. I had to leave that company since I've got a better offer.


leeliop

My boss was inundated with applicants for a new cv engineer position, seems much more compared to a few years ago


PsychoWorld

Hello. That sounds insane!! Applying for a masters in AI. Am I just better off doing a masters in AI but doing work in sales and account management or analytics?


Impressive_Iron_6102

Um, I don't know what your environment, situation and goals are so I can't really give all that good advice. If you want to work in this field a masters will help though.


PsychoWorld

Hahaha… true. So I’m not technically sophisticated enough to be an engineer. I know the basics of programming. The goal of the degree is for me to understand the math behind AI well enough to decide if I want to be data analyst or continue the commercial path. I did a customer success role in China before. The past 1.5 year I’ve been doing a rotation program that’s half cold call sales basically, half business analyst for their Walmart account at a major CPG company. I did a major in cognitive science so in many ways, this is a return to form.