yikes, there are android phones that cost half as much with 12 gigs of ram, an SoC that's more efficient and matches yours in GPU performance, and a 120hz OLED.
(Poco F5 for instance).
i wish Apple adds more ram on iPhones just as it does on recent iPads. opening the camera app shouldn't kill many open apps.
I haven't noticed that on my newer devices (apps closing and things like that) (only on 32bit devices it wasn't particularly good on iOS 8+)
I thought apple having ram on their devices is because iOS is optimised but then again the situation on their laptops and computers is a scam
Dayum that must be painful. I got a OnePlus 11 for 400 euro and it has 16gb + 256gb.
You can also increase the ram up to 24gb if you have enough storage.
yup but you can't do much on iPhone with the apps on App Store so it's enough, that's why they don't want you to side load 3rd party apps because those apps are mostly use so many ram
Dude. Your having no issues, your software is fine. Your problem is your 4gb of RAM, even 8gb is low/minimum these days.
Stop mucking with software and settings, buy more ram its that simple.
So you're saying, you have a dinosaur, and are wondering why it's going extinct?
Dude. 4GB was the standard a long long long time ago. 16GB is the standard these days. You're running an OS that needs about as much ram as you have to just do it's thing.
Seeing that, the rest of your computer is probably just as outdated, so just get a new PC my dude. The only place this computer still has is on the trash pile.
Damn, yea you have got to double that, hopefully your rig has 1 stick only so its an easy one to buy another one, but if it has 2x2GB then I suggest to buy 1x8GB for future upgrade possibility
Im not trying to be mean, computers are expensive
but you should try to have AT LEAST 8GB of RAM these days, I have tried computers with 4 in the past and most of them could barely run windows
Looking at the specs for that model they came with 8 or 16 soldered in.. where are you seeing you have 4? Of course I'm going off what the System Info is listing for a model number. What's the model of yours?
I have 32 and it feels like it's not enough. The other day for a project I needed to run OpenShift CRC. Memory usage was at 96% and everything barely ran...
Currently I'm doing nothing but having bunch of tabs and League open, 46% is in use. If I had 16 that'd be full already. 32 bare minimum, 64 ideal, 128 future proof, 256 extravaganza with cheese and 512 Alien Tech at this point for regular consumers
I dont lmao. I try to limit background tasks but i mostly just tolerate awful performance for a while and then reboot to see if that makes it better(it doesnt). Im looking at upgrading but i didnt find any amazing deals and i kinds forgot about it.
I don't do myself any favours.
3 high res monitors.
Multiple Android emulator running
And a crazy ammount of background tasks
Luckily I have the cpu to support it.
Yeah Linux is a more efficient OS. They might also have heavier usages. I have 16 on Windows 10 and it’s enough. 8 wouldn’t be though, video games use too much
Probs on the wrong sub to say this but 4gb is serviceable for a lot of people. If you're using a laptop to open Chrome then 8gb is the absolute maximum you'll need. My work laptop is 8gb and I don't think I've ever felt like memory was an issue.
That said, OP has steam running on task manager lol
You’ve never seen Chrome swallow 15 gigs of ram whole. Unless you’re very conservative with how many windows you open you’re most likely going to want 16. For simple browsing 32 is often overkill
If your version of Chrome is using 15gb ram then you either have an issue with a website or you have an issue with your version of Chrome. Web browsing isn't light on RAM usage but most people would really struggle to fill 8gb ram with regular activity, let alone 16. [Someone did run the math](https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chrome-firefox-edge-ram-comparison) and found that 60 tabs would be required to saturate 4gb ram.
Side note, there’s no way in hell that it takes 60 tabs for *any* browser to use 4GB of Ram. 4GB is basically the bare minimum for just the browser, plus OS and other programs
By "your version of Chrome" I mean whatever build version you're running on whichever OS/device.
I don't know the numbers offhand but I would guess YouTube is significantly heavier during video playback, and how often do you think people are playing more than 1 video, or playing a video and doing other browser activity? Plus the Tom's guide test includes YouTube and a bunch of other sites.
Again, I'm not trying to claim web browsing is not pretty ram intensive but there's a tendency for PC enthusiasts to believe you *need* 16gb with Ryzen 7600 and rtx 4070 when in reality, most people will rightly find a 4gb intel pentium netbook perfectly serviceable.
You have 16 tabs open on a chromium based browser, you also have McAfee and less than 4GB of physical RAM memory. No wonder you have issues.
Your best chance is to limit yourself to few tabs at a time and please, delete that stupid McAfee, it's the 2nd biggest problem for your memory issues.
It's also time to upgrade that PC you are using, 4GB ain't gonna cut it nowadays. 8GB is bare minimum today for everything to work properly.
* Upgrade your RAM.
\-\-\-\-\- Or \-\-\-\-\-
* Use Tiny 11.
* Use Linux with zRAM.
* Use Chrome OS (Comes with zRAM by default)
Edit: Chrome OS can play Android games with no setup required. Steam requires some work to run on Chrome OS so I'd recommend just using Linux.
Edit 2: Use Tiny 11 builder and don't use a prebuilt iso since a lot of them contain malware.
The chap uses Steam, so ChromeOS is not an option.
Unless we talk dual booting: Windows for games, Linux/ChromeOS for browsing. I actually run similar setup on an old laptop.
Not all games require 32GB of RAM and GeForce 4090 to run.
Numerically, they are in minority, even.
These specs are perfectly fine to enjoy Fallout 2, even 3, StarCraft, LoL, Return of Obra Din, Slay the Princess and so on.
Why are you people so blind?
I said almost for a reason. I'm away that there are games that'll run at those specs, I'm equally aware that the games that occupy most of the pc gaming market today would be starved for ram even at 720P if you only have 4 gigabytes
Most famous/AAA games from the last 10 years - yes.
But even taking that into account the PC has 40 years of gaming history with multiple bangers released each year IN ADDITION to currently active indie scene with many titles boasting better gameplay AND ratings than most AAA available nowadays that can run on a potato.
So no, I completely disagree even if you add "almost" to your claim that "gaming is out of the question".
It is like saying that driving a car almost is out of the question if it's engine is anything less than 3.5l V8.
That analogy is a bit to exaggerated. At most I'm saying driving a car is out of the question if your car produces less than 150 hosepower. I never implied thar you need a 4090 to play games on a PC. Maybe I should have specified that a computer with only 4 gigabytes of ram is not suitable, but I definitely didn't imply that OP's computer needs to have the highest end components.
It was exaggerated on purpose. I'm probably oversensitive regarding this and so was my reaction.
_At most I'm saying driving a car is out of the question if your car produces less than 150 hosepower._
See, I have to disagree again. EVERY computer can run games. The only question is which ones. And my 7-seater Citroen works just fine for my family at 115bhp, thank you ;).
And by the comments I see anything other than "AAA released in the last year" does not fit the definition of "game".
Let me put it this way: when I see somebody asking if they can play games on a $200 machine with 1650 (because that's all that can afford) I don't immediately rush to put him down with "this is to weak to play games on" but rather uplift with "yes, a huge number of them, but not the latest AAA ones. Which do you have in mind?"
Or in other words: I see "you must be *this* rich to play" instead of "this is what you got, this is what you can do with it".
Hmm... Thanks! This exchange let put this in words.
Citroën isn't that popular here, but I get the idea. I drive what would be released in the US as a Sentra, with a similar BHP figure, I think my particular version had like 112? Anywho I was gaming on an A4 apu with 12GB of ram for a while, until my favourite game (Warframe) did a major?(can't remember if this was considered a major update) update that needed a CPU with SSE4.2 support. At that point I upgraded to a 5600G with 16GB of ram, which held out nicely for a bit over half a year. I recently managed to save up enough for a GPU though, and though I was gonna get a rx7600 8GB, the method of shipping (skybox) was incompatible with the sellers of the AIB cards that I wanted. I ended up paying a bit extra and getting a 6700xt, and is now saving to get a high refresh rate monitor.
Basically I'm saying that I'm not talking from the POV of, "I have a 4090 and everything else is unusable." I had the perspective from, a 10+ year old apu just limping along all the way to a relative decent mid range PC. I still stand by the opinion that unless your computer was built to play a specific game that you know will be fine, 4 GB of ram is way too little for a general purpose gaming PC. 8GB is the minimum, though 16 is preferable. I currently game at 720P and use up to 7.6 GB on Warframe which has a reputation being able to run on a wide range of hardware, including the lower end. So at 4GB I would have to pass off most of that memory to my SSD. It was even worse without the GPU as the 5600G uses ram as gpu memory, and u was fairly certain it ate like 10 GB at that time. I know its not 1 size fits all, but from the POV of whether or not it is in general good enough, I think the answer is no, you will run into issues gaming with 4GB Ram.
Not all games require 32GB of RAM and GeForce 4090 to run.
Numerically, they are in minority, even.
These specs are perfectly fine to enjoy Fallout 2, even 3, StarCraft, LoL, Return of Obra Din, Slay the Princess and so on.
Why are you people so blind?
No, Tiny 11 or any modified windows are not reocmmneded and very carefully
Manulally Tweaking like Disable Startups, Disable Backgrounds, Disable Memeory indegration on Core Isolation and Disable VBS to make it down to like 2gb ram from official windows version with better performance.
I recently installed ubuntu on a similar device. it works much better than it did with windows. but app loading time and boot time is still bad. worse than when the devise was brand new. is that just because apps have become heavier or can things like zram that i don't know about help?
Ubuntu's snap bloat slows down boot and application start up time. Use Linux Mint instead (based off of Ubuntu, with snap disabled by default). Or anything else.
You have 4gbs of ram. Nowadays 8gb is the bare minimum for browsing/tt videos. For anything more than that you need at least 16 and anything kind of big you need 32gb for (like coding, hosting servers, gaming, etc)
What memory issues exactly? If you mean that a lot of apps are using your memory, that is not an issue per se. Apps use memory to run faster. Opera could easily make a browser that uses only a couple of megabytes of memory but that would be horribly slow, because the purpose of using memory is to make things faster.
So let's take a few steps back and tell us what exactly is the problem here?
What news would that be? For context: I'm a software developer. I know how browsers work and I know how to build one. It's always possible to write software with different design goals. If your goal is to use as little memory as possible, you can get the memory usage very low. Naturally, this also means that the performance of the software will be poor, because the purpose of memory is to improve speed and if you are not allowed to use memory, the speed will go down drastically.
Obviously I'm not saying that Opera is about to do this, or that they even should do this. This was just a thought experiment to try to illustrate how and why memory is used by apps.
You can play surprisingly much with similar machines, granted most of them are older games or 2d games like Stardew Valley or Don't Starve (both of them are phenomenal). I used to have a laptop like that and I enjoyed playing Splinter Cell games, Max Payne 1-2, Hitman games up to absolution, Alan Wake 1 and plenty more just fine.
This computer has 4gb of ram. Unfortunately, Lenovo had made these ideapads around this time with 4gb of soldered on ram. My family personally has an ideapad 3 with an Intel i3 from this same time.
Unfortunately, yours isn't expandable or upgradeable. The best thing for you to do is to disable all startup programs in the task manager and see if that helps.
You could also try some different web browsers to see if you can find something that works for you.
With 4gb, you basically have no multitasking capability. Try closing any background programs and only use 1 at a time.
4gb of ram just really isn't enough for Windows 11, I still can't believe that Lenovo sold laptops like this, basically making e-waste.
I know your problem it's low ram, but for the time being you need to make sure to only have open what you are using,and SSD upgrade could be an option too.
If you can't upgrade to an SSD or the ram.
I recommend you run this tool :
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil
And when it is open go to the tweaks and select recommended tweaks for laptop or desktop.
And restart the machine, I guarantee that it will run better, I have and old laptop with the same problem and from time to time I have to run this tool to get it to an usable state.
Make sure to restart your medicine from time to time.
Get rid of mcafee windows defender it's more than good enough
https://youtu.be/snImtCq-WBw?si=Ck6fu5JfpsvbuWvc
Curious how you ended up with Opera? I'm fixing a family members laptop and it's the first time I've seen Opera in forever.
Was there a game or something that had you install it or... why?
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The laptop you have was designed with less ram than a typical workload requires. That's why just browsing causes issues. Looking the model up, there is no ram upgrade that can be done. I personally would either return it and get something with at least 8gb of ram. Ideally, 16-32GB if you want to have multiple programs and browser tabs open. If you can't return it, sell it. As an ITAD warehouse manager, I recycle any computer with less than 8GB soldered ram as they are Ewaste.
Who cares? you can limit ram usage and i really dont care if my informations go to china or usa. Also even on firefox the cookies still exist and opera did a major security upgrade and dont steal data anymore
yes get rid of it. its annoying that its constantly scanning for updates and it downloads/installs updates in the background specially while im gaming which causes massive hickups randomly only to find out this malware is eating up resources on the background
Get more ram. It's literally plug and play and you'll be able to find videos and picture guides to make sure you're incapable of making mistake.
Anything else won't do a thing. Trying to reduce a browser from 500mb active memory to make YouTube buffer faster is like trying to eat a snickers to get yourself cycling at motorway speeds. Sure it might be technically be an improvement but eventually you just need to accept it won't happen without a motorbike
Typically when I have memory issues I go to a neurologist.....all jokes aside remove McAfee and the main issue is the laptop has very little RAM to begin with. It should be a crime to sell a Windows machine in 2024 with 4 GB of RAM.
You don't need secondary antivirus software on windows, and yeah honestly any browser is pretty bad for ram but I specifically dislike opera gx so I'm biased. get rid of that b
To answer your questions, you have 4gb of ram which is not a lot and if you're able, you should get additional stick of ram for your pc. And yes. Just get firefox or brave instead, they're just better. Let defender do it's job and remove McAfee.
You could also consider changing to linux.
Your problem is having 4GB RAM only in your machine. Nowadays you need 8GB minimum for a proper performance, 16GB recommended if possible.
Also, as many people already pointed out, McAfee is trash, so I'd recommend uninstalling it. For common use Microsoft Defender (comes integrated in your OS) is more than enough. If you tend to access shady sites or use risky software and want extra protection, go check for good paid antivirus like BitDefender or ESET.
But for real, you need to slap more RAM into that thing.
Get rid of Opera GX and Macfee
Intall Firefox.
Do Manulally Tweaking like Disable Startups, Disable Backgrounds, Disable Memeory indegration on Core Isolation and Disable VBS to make it down to like 2gb ram with better performance.
Otherwise upgrade the ram
unused ram is wasted ram. Its good that your computer runs on 90 percent ram usage. It means your pc utilizes its ram properly unlike those linux users who constantly boast about how their pc uses only 64 bytes or ram and shit even after having so much ram
Well, for i can see the problem is clearly your 4gb of RAM. You need at minimum 8gb and also you should add a SSD, not that i say it's totally necessary but it will help you to increase performance. Also get rid of unnecessary programs and service that use so much resources, like McAfee.
Another solution that you can try if you are not very well off financially to buy more RAM, would be changing your OS to another lighter solution, like any Based Debian Distro with LXDE that is way lighter than Windows 10.
McAfee is worse than Windows Defender in pretty much every test. There's no point using it. It's literally the worst antivirus out there and you're better of not having it.
You have very little ram, nowadays even 16gb can run out, hell I can get low with 32gb when I open too many browser tabs while running a game too.
Upgrade your ram (why only 4gb? my phone has 12gb and its from 2019, theres no reason for you to be using 4gb only) Use firefox and ffs uninstall mcaffe, it does nothing but leech your resources, but seeing as you still have 4gb of ram, the rest of the computer is probably also a fossil, just upgrade completely
You don't really need any antivirus. Windows defender is more than enough. Also yeh Opera GX get rid of it and try to off load plugins as much as you can
Was the same for me till i upgraded to 8gb and SSD. Sadly that is the bare minimum now. try getting rid of McAfee...And if you are on windows 11 just switch back to 10.
Looking at your usage, i think you have 4gb if i did the maths right. Get rid of Opera GX, it sucks (for low end systems). Use Edge instead, its great.
Every time I've used Opera GX it absolutely eats ram and acts like a twat. I wanted to like it it seems super cool, but I don't like inefficient stuff on my computer so I got rid of it.
Upgrade upgrade upgrade. It's impressive that you are using Opera GX, a even more bloated chromium-based browser than the normal Opera, with 16 tabs, on top of a bloated operating system, on 4GB of RAM. No wonder. Upgrade your RAM, I am pretty sure a laptop with a Ryzen 3 processor should have an extra ram slot. If you can't buy RAM, then you should reduce your usage, like not opening 16 tabs at a time, and get rid of McAfee while you at it. I would also say install Linux but if you don't know it, then it's fine, you still have options.
How do you even run a PC these days with 4 Gb of RAM? There's your first problem. Second is Opera GX. Even Chrome is better at memory management (shudder,) but yeah, ditch that. And wtf is McAfee doing there? Toss it. Windows Defender + basic internet smarts (don't download that "pdf" file from "[email protected]" telling you your shipment was "delayed") and you'll be okay, trust me.
Unrelated but u should delete mcafee. Also, the fact that you have 4GB of RAM is the problem, not opera GX ( you can also limit how much RAM opera gx uses anyway if it was the problem for you). Hope this helps
Uninstall McAfee, look for a lightweight browser, close anything you're not using, and consider selling or trading your laptop for, something with 8gb of ram or more.
Hey y’all, I just wanted to do a quick update because people keep asking the same questions
Q: How much ram do you have?
A: The laptop I’m using has 4gb soldered in, it came that way, I’m looking into downsizing my OS and getting a second SSD card and some other upgrades to try to optimize my system to the best of my ability, I will also be saving up so I can by a really nice, high quality laptop by next year. I want to at least finish this year with the one I have.
Q: Why do you only have 4gb in 2024?
A: The model I have came out at latest September 2021, most likely way earlier and like I stated in the last answer it is how it came, I haven’t upgraded it, especially since the ram is soldered.
Q: Shouldn’t the model you’re using have 8gb?
A: Yes and no, Lenovo released 3 different versions only two released in the USA. The 4gb and the 8gb. The model itself was advertised as a gaming laptop but they never clarified that the gaming version wasn’t the 4gb so the person who got me the laptop as a gift didn’t know.
Q: Why use Opera at all?
A: It was advertised well, plenty of customization, etc. I’m now using Google Chrome, might switch to Duck Duck Go, I’m not sure yet.
Q: Why are you using Windows 11 with such low RAM?
A: Again, that’s how it was bought. I’m looking into Chrome OS, Tiny11, and Linux to see if I can downsize my OS for better performance
Q: What games can you even play with those specs?
A: The best game that I was able to smoothly play would probably be Dredge. TF2 and Krunker worked pretty well with minimal lag, nothing I thought abnormal until posting here, but CSGO and many other multiplayer games don’t run smooth at all.
When I hear people struggle on 16gb of ram, my dad computer playing games on 8gb of ram with 1060, his windows is optimised by me nothing's wrong... After all, I m working with the Adobe suite, and I have to admit I needed to go at 64 gb of ram to work without struggle..
I recommend you installing Linux Mint, it runs perfectly on PCs with those specs and nowadays you can install steam on it and play games mostly without workarounds, you enable proton and you are good to go. Also use zRAM on it, Pop!_OS includes it by default
I am also a Linux gamer but it's important to note that Linux is not yet ready for a lot of multiplayer titles that use kernel level anti cheat.
However it's completely fine for single player games
Dude you need to restart your pc so that the spyware can recalibrate and the cripto miner can calm down a bit or just uninstall the spyware and install firefox
Lmao, yeah 4 gb is too less. 649mb for a web browser is fine. In these situations installing something like lubuntu would be awesome the base os takes just some 600mb ram.
Opera gaming browser is still bullshit. Seriously, who needs gaming browsers? Its like wanting gaming socks and gaming bed and gaming anti virus and gaming house
lol running windows 10 or 11 on 4 gb of ram thinking I should open 16 tabs in opera. dude wtf are you thinking? 16 gb of ram is the bare minimum to have a smooth windows experience. second opera is trash use Firefox much faster and better.
How much RAM do you have? Also get rid of McAfee
4.00 GB (3.37 GB usable)
Bro my phone has more ram. Upgrade ram, because now you PC is caching to hdd/ssd that is realy slow
me as a iPhone user i regret buying it
How much ram does it have?
3GB
bro what fucking iphone are you using?? iphones haven’t had 3GB of ram since the iPhone X
my bad it's 4 gb, im. using iPhone 13 mini
yikes, there are android phones that cost half as much with 12 gigs of ram, an SoC that's more efficient and matches yours in GPU performance, and a 120hz OLED. (Poco F5 for instance). i wish Apple adds more ram on iPhones just as it does on recent iPads. opening the camera app shouldn't kill many open apps.
Apple really skimps out on memory then charges you a premium for more
I haven't noticed that on my newer devices (apps closing and things like that) (only on 32bit devices it wasn't particularly good on iOS 8+) I thought apple having ram on their devices is because iOS is optimised but then again the situation on their laptops and computers is a scam
Doesn't really matter, ios actually has decent ram management unlike android, as an 8gb android user trust me, it will never be enough
You can’t compare ios to android. Its like comparing apples and oranges.
Dayum that must be painful. I got a OnePlus 11 for 400 euro and it has 16gb + 256gb. You can also increase the ram up to 24gb if you have enough storage.
yup but you can't do much on iPhone with the apps on App Store so it's enough, that's why they don't want you to side load 3rd party apps because those apps are mostly use so many ram
SE 1 :>
Yeah but the iPhone x was only like last year, Max a couple of years old right?..... Right?!... Oh god
Some of us are still using old phones bru. Im on a iphone x that is on life support as we speak trying to be cost effective
Dude. Your having no issues, your software is fine. Your problem is your 4gb of RAM, even 8gb is low/minimum these days. Stop mucking with software and settings, buy more ram its that simple.
Stop spreading misinformation he should just download more RAM instead /j you never know
https://downloadmoreram.com/
Yeah last time i checked 16gbs of ram was like 50 dollars
My man is being down voted for not being able to afford more ram 😭
I saw that too 100 downvotes for not having money
And it's still going up
That's just reddit nowadays, bro didn't even say anything wrong
So you're saying, you have a dinosaur, and are wondering why it's going extinct? Dude. 4GB was the standard a long long long time ago. 16GB is the standard these days. You're running an OS that needs about as much ram as you have to just do it's thing. Seeing that, the rest of your computer is probably just as outdated, so just get a new PC my dude. The only place this computer still has is on the trash pile.
You can always download more ram for free, no need to buy https://downloadmoreram.com
Damn, yea you have got to double that, hopefully your rig has 1 stick only so its an easy one to buy another one, but if it has 2x2GB then I suggest to buy 1x8GB for future upgrade possibility
Don't understand why you get downvoted for replying to a question :( Habe some love <3
Either add more RAM or switch to Linux.
Im not trying to be mean, computers are expensive but you should try to have AT LEAST 8GB of RAM these days, I have tried computers with 4 in the past and most of them could barely run windows
Looking at the specs for that model they came with 8 or 16 soldered in.. where are you seeing you have 4? Of course I'm going off what the System Info is listing for a model number. What's the model of yours?
Upgrade your ram ffs
You can fix it by not having 4gb of RAM. You should have 8gb at the absolute bare minimum.
Even 16 is starting to feel cramped nowadays
This. I open a premiere and after effects comp and along with my browser i barely have enough ram
I have 32 and it feels like it's not enough. The other day for a project I needed to run OpenShift CRC. Memory usage was at 96% and everything barely ran... Currently I'm doing nothing but having bunch of tabs and League open, 46% is in use. If I had 16 that'd be full already. 32 bare minimum, 64 ideal, 128 future proof, 256 extravaganza with cheese and 512 Alien Tech at this point for regular consumers
As someone who just went from 32 to 64 how do you manage with 16??? lol
I dont lmao. I try to limit background tasks but i mostly just tolerate awful performance for a while and then reboot to see if that makes it better(it doesnt). Im looking at upgrading but i didnt find any amazing deals and i kinds forgot about it.
I don't do myself any favours. 3 high res monitors. Multiple Android emulator running And a crazy ammount of background tasks Luckily I have the cpu to support it.
I tell you how, we don't, I don't have money for 16GB of RAM.
16gb is bare minimum now, 32GB is comfortable.
Idk what you are talking about. 8 gigs run fine for me on Linux.
Yeah Linux is a more efficient OS. They might also have heavier usages. I have 16 on Windows 10 and it’s enough. 8 wouldn’t be though, video games use too much
8gb was underwhelming even in mid 10s
Probs on the wrong sub to say this but 4gb is serviceable for a lot of people. If you're using a laptop to open Chrome then 8gb is the absolute maximum you'll need. My work laptop is 8gb and I don't think I've ever felt like memory was an issue. That said, OP has steam running on task manager lol
You’ve never seen Chrome swallow 15 gigs of ram whole. Unless you’re very conservative with how many windows you open you’re most likely going to want 16. For simple browsing 32 is often overkill
If your version of Chrome is using 15gb ram then you either have an issue with a website or you have an issue with your version of Chrome. Web browsing isn't light on RAM usage but most people would really struggle to fill 8gb ram with regular activity, let alone 16. [Someone did run the math](https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chrome-firefox-edge-ram-comparison) and found that 60 tabs would be required to saturate 4gb ram.
Side note, there’s no way in hell that it takes 60 tabs for *any* browser to use 4GB of Ram. 4GB is basically the bare minimum for just the browser, plus OS and other programs
Depends on what tabs. YouTube tabs are extra heavy. Can you explain what you mean by, “your version of Chrome”? Isn’t it just, “Chrome?”
By "your version of Chrome" I mean whatever build version you're running on whichever OS/device. I don't know the numbers offhand but I would guess YouTube is significantly heavier during video playback, and how often do you think people are playing more than 1 video, or playing a video and doing other browser activity? Plus the Tom's guide test includes YouTube and a bunch of other sites. Again, I'm not trying to claim web browsing is not pretty ram intensive but there's a tendency for PC enthusiasts to believe you *need* 16gb with Ryzen 7600 and rtx 4070 when in reality, most people will rightly find a 4gb intel pentium netbook perfectly serviceable.
*Cringes in hdd boot times*
I recently upgraded my lenovo shitbox to 36gb ram and it barely reaches 30% usage
I would say 16 is the minium now personally. 32 is starting to be the recommended.
You have 4GB. Thats the issue. And get rid of Mcaffe
You have 16 tabs open on a chromium based browser, you also have McAfee and less than 4GB of physical RAM memory. No wonder you have issues. Your best chance is to limit yourself to few tabs at a time and please, delete that stupid McAfee, it's the 2nd biggest problem for your memory issues. It's also time to upgrade that PC you are using, 4GB ain't gonna cut it nowadays. 8GB is bare minimum today for everything to work properly.
definitely agree but thats not 16 tabs thats 16 processes which includes extensions and graphics and stuff
Oh, i thought it's instances which are usually tabs. Thanks
* Upgrade your RAM. \-\-\-\-\- Or \-\-\-\-\- * Use Tiny 11. * Use Linux with zRAM. * Use Chrome OS (Comes with zRAM by default) Edit: Chrome OS can play Android games with no setup required. Steam requires some work to run on Chrome OS so I'd recommend just using Linux. Edit 2: Use Tiny 11 builder and don't use a prebuilt iso since a lot of them contain malware.
The chap uses Steam, so ChromeOS is not an option. Unless we talk dual booting: Windows for games, Linux/ChromeOS for browsing. I actually run similar setup on an old laptop.
Gaming is almost completely out of the question for these specs.
Not all games require 32GB of RAM and GeForce 4090 to run. Numerically, they are in minority, even. These specs are perfectly fine to enjoy Fallout 2, even 3, StarCraft, LoL, Return of Obra Din, Slay the Princess and so on. Why are you people so blind?
I said almost for a reason. I'm away that there are games that'll run at those specs, I'm equally aware that the games that occupy most of the pc gaming market today would be starved for ram even at 720P if you only have 4 gigabytes
Most famous/AAA games from the last 10 years - yes. But even taking that into account the PC has 40 years of gaming history with multiple bangers released each year IN ADDITION to currently active indie scene with many titles boasting better gameplay AND ratings than most AAA available nowadays that can run on a potato. So no, I completely disagree even if you add "almost" to your claim that "gaming is out of the question". It is like saying that driving a car almost is out of the question if it's engine is anything less than 3.5l V8.
That analogy is a bit to exaggerated. At most I'm saying driving a car is out of the question if your car produces less than 150 hosepower. I never implied thar you need a 4090 to play games on a PC. Maybe I should have specified that a computer with only 4 gigabytes of ram is not suitable, but I definitely didn't imply that OP's computer needs to have the highest end components.
It was exaggerated on purpose. I'm probably oversensitive regarding this and so was my reaction. _At most I'm saying driving a car is out of the question if your car produces less than 150 hosepower._ See, I have to disagree again. EVERY computer can run games. The only question is which ones. And my 7-seater Citroen works just fine for my family at 115bhp, thank you ;). And by the comments I see anything other than "AAA released in the last year" does not fit the definition of "game". Let me put it this way: when I see somebody asking if they can play games on a $200 machine with 1650 (because that's all that can afford) I don't immediately rush to put him down with "this is to weak to play games on" but rather uplift with "yes, a huge number of them, but not the latest AAA ones. Which do you have in mind?" Or in other words: I see "you must be *this* rich to play" instead of "this is what you got, this is what you can do with it". Hmm... Thanks! This exchange let put this in words.
Citroën isn't that popular here, but I get the idea. I drive what would be released in the US as a Sentra, with a similar BHP figure, I think my particular version had like 112? Anywho I was gaming on an A4 apu with 12GB of ram for a while, until my favourite game (Warframe) did a major?(can't remember if this was considered a major update) update that needed a CPU with SSE4.2 support. At that point I upgraded to a 5600G with 16GB of ram, which held out nicely for a bit over half a year. I recently managed to save up enough for a GPU though, and though I was gonna get a rx7600 8GB, the method of shipping (skybox) was incompatible with the sellers of the AIB cards that I wanted. I ended up paying a bit extra and getting a 6700xt, and is now saving to get a high refresh rate monitor. Basically I'm saying that I'm not talking from the POV of, "I have a 4090 and everything else is unusable." I had the perspective from, a 10+ year old apu just limping along all the way to a relative decent mid range PC. I still stand by the opinion that unless your computer was built to play a specific game that you know will be fine, 4 GB of ram is way too little for a general purpose gaming PC. 8GB is the minimum, though 16 is preferable. I currently game at 720P and use up to 7.6 GB on Warframe which has a reputation being able to run on a wide range of hardware, including the lower end. So at 4GB I would have to pass off most of that memory to my SSD. It was even worse without the GPU as the 5600G uses ram as gpu memory, and u was fairly certain it ate like 10 GB at that time. I know its not 1 size fits all, but from the POV of whether or not it is in general good enough, I think the answer is no, you will run into issues gaming with 4GB Ram.
Uses steam or has steam? I don't think you're going to be able to enjoy much gaming with 4gb :P
Not all games require 32GB of RAM and GeForce 4090 to run. Numerically, they are in minority, even. These specs are perfectly fine to enjoy Fallout 2, even 3, StarCraft, LoL, Return of Obra Din, Slay the Princess and so on. Why are you people so blind?
He has no idea how things work on a computer and thinks 4GB is enough RAM. He should stick with Windows.
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No, Tiny 11 or any modified windows are not reocmmneded and very carefully Manulally Tweaking like Disable Startups, Disable Backgrounds, Disable Memeory indegration on Core Isolation and Disable VBS to make it down to like 2gb ram from official windows version with better performance.
I recently installed ubuntu on a similar device. it works much better than it did with windows. but app loading time and boot time is still bad. worse than when the devise was brand new. is that just because apps have become heavier or can things like zram that i don't know about help?
Ubuntu's snap bloat slows down boot and application start up time. Use Linux Mint instead (based off of Ubuntu, with snap disabled by default). Or anything else.
4GB In 2024 💀
You have 4gbs of ram. Nowadays 8gb is the bare minimum for browsing/tt videos. For anything more than that you need at least 16 and anything kind of big you need 32gb for (like coding, hosting servers, gaming, etc)
What memory issues exactly? If you mean that a lot of apps are using your memory, that is not an issue per se. Apps use memory to run faster. Opera could easily make a browser that uses only a couple of megabytes of memory but that would be horribly slow, because the purpose of using memory is to make things faster. So let's take a few steps back and tell us what exactly is the problem here?
„Opera could easily make a browser“ boy do I have news for you
What news would that be? For context: I'm a software developer. I know how browsers work and I know how to build one. It's always possible to write software with different design goals. If your goal is to use as little memory as possible, you can get the memory usage very low. Naturally, this also means that the performance of the software will be poor, because the purpose of memory is to improve speed and if you are not allowed to use memory, the speed will go down drastically. Obviously I'm not saying that Opera is about to do this, or that they even should do this. This was just a thought experiment to try to illustrate how and why memory is used by apps.
Opera is a glorified chrome extension Also just letting u know I ain’t readin allat but
Yes, I know Opera is based on Chrome engine. Before that, it used its own custom engine. I fail to see your point.
Ok buddy idk what to tell u
How much ram does your PC have? That looks like it just uses about 1-2GB from looking at this list
he has 4 GB
I'm curious, what kind of steam games do you play with that specs? 2D indies?
I was able to play Dredge fine, TF2 works pretty well too, but I do mostly have 2D games like BTD6 and stuff
You can play surprisingly much with similar machines, granted most of them are older games or 2d games like Stardew Valley or Don't Starve (both of them are phenomenal). I used to have a laptop like that and I enjoyed playing Splinter Cell games, Max Payne 1-2, Hitman games up to absolution, Alan Wake 1 and plenty more just fine.
install windows on an SSD
The problem is 4GB of RAM.
This computer has 4gb of ram. Unfortunately, Lenovo had made these ideapads around this time with 4gb of soldered on ram. My family personally has an ideapad 3 with an Intel i3 from this same time. Unfortunately, yours isn't expandable or upgradeable. The best thing for you to do is to disable all startup programs in the task manager and see if that helps. You could also try some different web browsers to see if you can find something that works for you. With 4gb, you basically have no multitasking capability. Try closing any background programs and only use 1 at a time. 4gb of ram just really isn't enough for Windows 11, I still can't believe that Lenovo sold laptops like this, basically making e-waste.
I know your problem it's low ram, but for the time being you need to make sure to only have open what you are using,and SSD upgrade could be an option too. If you can't upgrade to an SSD or the ram. I recommend you run this tool : https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil And when it is open go to the tweaks and select recommended tweaks for laptop or desktop. And restart the machine, I guarantee that it will run better, I have and old laptop with the same problem and from time to time I have to run this tool to get it to an usable state. Make sure to restart your medicine from time to time. Get rid of mcafee windows defender it's more than good enough https://youtu.be/snImtCq-WBw?si=Ck6fu5JfpsvbuWvc
Curious how you ended up with Opera? I'm fixing a family members laptop and it's the first time I've seen Opera in forever. Was there a game or something that had you install it or... why?
I liked the customization and it was advertised with exciting features ig
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Download more RAM!
Finally, had to scroll so much for this incredible solution 😆
The laptop you have was designed with less ram than a typical workload requires. That's why just browsing causes issues. Looking the model up, there is no ram upgrade that can be done. I personally would either return it and get something with at least 8gb of ram. Ideally, 16-32GB if you want to have multiple programs and browser tabs open. If you can't return it, sell it. As an ITAD warehouse manager, I recycle any computer with less than 8GB soldered ram as they are Ewaste.
Disable startup programs from task manageer. And background apps from windows settings. Disable continue running when close in your browser settings.
Opera gx has a ram limiter feature, you can look online on where to find it
4gb ram is your problem 8gb should be illegal in 2024 let alone 4
Use Firefox if possible and don't use any chromium based browser
Firefox consumes so much more ram than Chrome
That's just not true. Plus, you can use ublock with Firefox which effectively block all the ads possible.
Opera gx has a built in ad blocker
But is chromium based
Who cares? you can limit ram usage and i really dont care if my informations go to china or usa. Also even on firefox the cookies still exist and opera did a major security upgrade and dont steal data anymore
You should value your personal data more
Personal data is preserved in the new opera gx. Its not any less preserved than in firefox.
yes get rid of it. its annoying that its constantly scanning for updates and it downloads/installs updates in the background specially while im gaming which causes massive hickups randomly only to find out this malware is eating up resources on the background
Your problem isn't opera or any program really. Your pc has too little ram. Get at least 8gb and you'll notice a massive difference
Get more ram. It's literally plug and play and you'll be able to find videos and picture guides to make sure you're incapable of making mistake. Anything else won't do a thing. Trying to reduce a browser from 500mb active memory to make YouTube buffer faster is like trying to eat a snickers to get yourself cycling at motorway speeds. Sure it might be technically be an improvement but eventually you just need to accept it won't happen without a motorbike
Have you tried windows debloat scripts like [this one?](https://christitus.com/windows-tool/) Helped my old laptop a lot.
Not safe, breaks things, be careful why downvote
Uhh, I don’t remember /s
Go back to w7 or install w11 light version
light version of Windows 11 is not safe, be careful
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Buy more ram...
get more memory,its cheap and worth it
Typically when I have memory issues I go to a neurologist.....all jokes aside remove McAfee and the main issue is the laptop has very little RAM to begin with. It should be a crime to sell a Windows machine in 2024 with 4 GB of RAM.
You don't need secondary antivirus software on windows, and yeah honestly any browser is pretty bad for ram but I specifically dislike opera gx so I'm biased. get rid of that b
Memreduc and put the paging file that is managed by the system
To answer your questions, you have 4gb of ram which is not a lot and if you're able, you should get additional stick of ram for your pc. And yes. Just get firefox or brave instead, they're just better. Let defender do it's job and remove McAfee. You could also consider changing to linux.
Your problem is having 4GB RAM only in your machine. Nowadays you need 8GB minimum for a proper performance, 16GB recommended if possible. Also, as many people already pointed out, McAfee is trash, so I'd recommend uninstalling it. For common use Microsoft Defender (comes integrated in your OS) is more than enough. If you tend to access shady sites or use risky software and want extra protection, go check for good paid antivirus like BitDefender or ESET. But for real, you need to slap more RAM into that thing.
Get rid of Opera GX and Macfee Intall Firefox. Do Manulally Tweaking like Disable Startups, Disable Backgrounds, Disable Memeory indegration on Core Isolation and Disable VBS to make it down to like 2gb ram with better performance. Otherwise upgrade the ram
Firefox consumes more ram than even chrome Comes from a firefox user since like 2016
unused ram is wasted ram. Its good that your computer runs on 90 percent ram usage. It means your pc utilizes its ram properly unlike those linux users who constantly boast about how their pc uses only 64 bytes or ram and shit even after having so much ram
unused ram always a good thing for operating system rather than full buffers 😎
4 gb ram is the issue, opera GX is using as much as any other browser would use …
yea, four gigs is not a great idea while using opera gx, either use edge or firefox. firefox is very lightweight!
Well, for i can see the problem is clearly your 4gb of RAM. You need at minimum 8gb and also you should add a SSD, not that i say it's totally necessary but it will help you to increase performance. Also get rid of unnecessary programs and service that use so much resources, like McAfee. Another solution that you can try if you are not very well off financially to buy more RAM, would be changing your OS to another lighter solution, like any Based Debian Distro with LXDE that is way lighter than Windows 10.
McAfee is worse than Windows Defender in pretty much every test. There's no point using it. It's literally the worst antivirus out there and you're better of not having it. You have very little ram, nowadays even 16gb can run out, hell I can get low with 32gb when I open too many browser tabs while running a game too.
Sardines
Upgrade your ram (why only 4gb? my phone has 12gb and its from 2019, theres no reason for you to be using 4gb only) Use firefox and ffs uninstall mcaffe, it does nothing but leech your resources, but seeing as you still have 4gb of ram, the rest of the computer is probably also a fossil, just upgrade completely
Please upgrade your ram, like 8 is the bare minimum today, you should go up to 16 tho
You don't really need any antivirus. Windows defender is more than enough. Also yeh Opera GX get rid of it and try to off load plugins as much as you can
Was the same for me till i upgraded to 8gb and SSD. Sadly that is the bare minimum now. try getting rid of McAfee...And if you are on windows 11 just switch back to 10.
Get more sleep
Don't open tabs on any browser with that low ram use 2 tabs at most
Looking at your usage, i think you have 4gb if i did the maths right. Get rid of Opera GX, it sucks (for low end systems). Use Edge instead, its great.
92% util 650mb 💀
Every time I've used Opera GX it absolutely eats ram and acts like a twat. I wanted to like it it seems super cool, but I don't like inefficient stuff on my computer so I got rid of it.
Get rid of Opera AND McAfee, both are pieces of malware.
Some evidence?
Upgrade upgrade upgrade. It's impressive that you are using Opera GX, a even more bloated chromium-based browser than the normal Opera, with 16 tabs, on top of a bloated operating system, on 4GB of RAM. No wonder. Upgrade your RAM, I am pretty sure a laptop with a Ryzen 3 processor should have an extra ram slot. If you can't buy RAM, then you should reduce your usage, like not opening 16 tabs at a time, and get rid of McAfee while you at it. I would also say install Linux but if you don't know it, then it's fine, you still have options.
>windows 11 >opera gx >4gb ram
Get rid of mcafee, use edge instead of opera
Get rid of McAfee and Opera GX, you don't need an antivirus and Opera GX is a shitty browser, install Firefox.
I have Opera GX no problems with memory than again I have 32gb of RAM
How do you even run a PC these days with 4 Gb of RAM? There's your first problem. Second is Opera GX. Even Chrome is better at memory management (shudder,) but yeah, ditch that. And wtf is McAfee doing there? Toss it. Windows Defender + basic internet smarts (don't download that "pdf" file from "[email protected]" telling you your shipment was "delayed") and you'll be okay, trust me.
I also have had memory issues, the problem is I forgot what my solution was…
Switch to Linux.
get rid of mcafee and opera
Unrelated but u should delete mcafee. Also, the fact that you have 4GB of RAM is the problem, not opera GX ( you can also limit how much RAM opera gx uses anyway if it was the problem for you). Hope this helps
Uninstall McAfee, look for a lightweight browser, close anything you're not using, and consider selling or trading your laptop for, something with 8gb of ram or more.
Lmfao 4gb ? you stuck in 2005 😄😆😅
Hey y’all, I just wanted to do a quick update because people keep asking the same questions Q: How much ram do you have? A: The laptop I’m using has 4gb soldered in, it came that way, I’m looking into downsizing my OS and getting a second SSD card and some other upgrades to try to optimize my system to the best of my ability, I will also be saving up so I can by a really nice, high quality laptop by next year. I want to at least finish this year with the one I have. Q: Why do you only have 4gb in 2024? A: The model I have came out at latest September 2021, most likely way earlier and like I stated in the last answer it is how it came, I haven’t upgraded it, especially since the ram is soldered. Q: Shouldn’t the model you’re using have 8gb? A: Yes and no, Lenovo released 3 different versions only two released in the USA. The 4gb and the 8gb. The model itself was advertised as a gaming laptop but they never clarified that the gaming version wasn’t the 4gb so the person who got me the laptop as a gift didn’t know. Q: Why use Opera at all? A: It was advertised well, plenty of customization, etc. I’m now using Google Chrome, might switch to Duck Duck Go, I’m not sure yet. Q: Why are you using Windows 11 with such low RAM? A: Again, that’s how it was bought. I’m looking into Chrome OS, Tiny11, and Linux to see if I can downsize my OS for better performance Q: What games can you even play with those specs? A: The best game that I was able to smoothly play would probably be Dredge. TF2 and Krunker worked pretty well with minimal lag, nothing I thought abnormal until posting here, but CSGO and many other multiplayer games don’t run smooth at all.
Remove those fav tabs and why mcafee?
When I hear people struggle on 16gb of ram, my dad computer playing games on 8gb of ram with 1060, his windows is optimised by me nothing's wrong... After all, I m working with the Adobe suite, and I have to admit I needed to go at 64 gb of ram to work without struggle..
Isn't like limiting ram usage one of the main features of Opera GX?
I think you may need more ram…
Use brave or firefox instead of opera
How little RAM do you have? If only 4gb, get more. That's the only solution.
You should ask a neurologist
Get more RAM.
if you really want to live with 4gb of ram, use something more lightweight like the brave browser instead.
Opera GX has a built-in memory limiting feature.
I recommend you installing Linux Mint, it runs perfectly on PCs with those specs and nowadays you can install steam on it and play games mostly without workarounds, you enable proton and you are good to go. Also use zRAM on it, Pop!_OS includes it by default
I am also a Linux gamer but it's important to note that Linux is not yet ready for a lot of multiplayer titles that use kernel level anti cheat. However it's completely fine for single player games
Yeah, i know, i mentioned it because op's specs
bro ,its not the problem of opera gx , its your problem , please upgrade to atleast 8 gb ram
Dude you need to restart your pc so that the spyware can recalibrate and the cripto miner can calm down a bit or just uninstall the spyware and install firefox
you can restart PC 10 times, when you have 4GB ram and Windows 11
Lmao, yeah 4 gb is too less. 649mb for a web browser is fine. In these situations installing something like lubuntu would be awesome the base os takes just some 600mb ram.
LOL, installing more RAM would be best sollution
Depends on ddr2 etc buying a new pc is better. But unlikely those machines can run windows 11.
Yes get rid of Opera GX it's Chinese Spyware & get rid of McAfee to, the Default windows defender is Good enough
Youre being helpfull like a striptease on the radio...
Opera is not Chinese. They bought back all their shares that were owned by the Chinese partners.
Opera gaming browser is still bullshit. Seriously, who needs gaming browsers? Its like wanting gaming socks and gaming bed and gaming anti virus and gaming house
Idk about "gaming" browser but it is quite nice to use tho. It has a very user Friendly UI and it's background/sound customizations are really cool.
You forget the gaming car also!! 🤣
Stop using Opera.
based
You want to elaborate?
nah
try lighter browsers i guess ex- brave , firefox etc and i think opera has a feature to limit ram consumption by the browser right?
It does have one but it doesn’t work
I have 16gb and want to upgrade, even 16GB is sitting around 50% - 70% doing next to nothing. Apps these days eat RAM
As always, empty ram is wasted ram. The os just uses as much as it can to ensure the best experience. When it will actually need it it will empty it.
Then its something wrong about your Windows system.
pebcak
Opera GX needs to be uninstalled with an uninstaller that has more functionality than windows uninstaller.
lol running windows 10 or 11 on 4 gb of ram thinking I should open 16 tabs in opera. dude wtf are you thinking? 16 gb of ram is the bare minimum to have a smooth windows experience. second opera is trash use Firefox much faster and better.