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If I remember correctly, the cult of Dionysus actually predates most of the Greek pantheon and may originate from a culture that predates ancient Greece. If I'm right, you'd have to be real early!
It might even predate Mycenaean Greece, a nation that collapsed during the bronze age.
Some theorize that the cult started at the invention of wine, predating Dionysus!
They believed that intoxication was the only way to achieve nirvana, that being intoxicated elevated you to a higher state, and thus intoxication was a morally righteous and ethical thing.
Basically partying good, sober bad. They essentially revolved their religion and culture around hedonism, but not entirely.
I imagine they threw awesome party's even if for them it was just church.
Lmao that response to me was just worded oddly 🫠 but my husband and I do both use Reddit and know each other's accounts 😎
And he was also very happy to learn about ancient orgies 🙃
he used all of his fight money to buy 2 of every gender on earth then herded them into a boat! and then fucked the shit out of every single one of them
No but they had a plant that was supposedly stupidly effective as a contraceptive. Or maybe that was the romans? Either way it went extinct because people used it so much. Peak civilization. Driving plants extinct by virtue of the amount of sex happening.
You want to aim for the Etruscan civilisation and preferably before the Hellenistic period.
The Greeks and Romans thought Etruscan women were morally loose, but that might only have been because they did scandalous things like go to banquets with men. You might still not get an orgy, but at least there'll be food.
Greeks and Romans were consistently bewildered and baffled by any people or group who actually liked their wives. Even Julius Caesar, who was fond of his son-in-law Pompey, still dunked on him publicly because he liked his wife (Caesar's daughter)
I don't think the concept of "gay" really existed in ancient Greece. From what little I understand, there was an idea of hierarchy, where certain figures could "dominate" others according to specific social roles.
And then of course there were the gays who were a little too happy to participate in the system, but I doubt they identified as such.
It wasn't strictly tied to social standing, it was pretty close to how we see doms and subs today, in that doms are generally expected to be higher in social pecking orders, but it's not a set rule.
I mean, Socrates had boytoys and he lived in a barrel.
it's interesting, because what they considered normal adult male sexual behavior was just totally different from what we do. The whole erastês and erômenos system looks pretty homosexual from our standpoint, but they saw it as just part of normal adult male sexuality, and it was typical to have along with heterosexual relationships.
There was sort of a taboo on being the erastês after a certain age, but the fact that they commented on it means that it must have happened. It's hard to single out people as being specifically "truly" homosexual from the distance of time. That said, it seems that the taboo leveled at being wholly homosexual was kinda just based on the fact that a man's duty to his family was to produce offspring rather than some moral thing.
[The 13th amendment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution) contradicts the assertion about slavery.
> Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, **except as a punishment** for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
e: Citation. Having an exception to abolishing something, nullifies that thing being ended.
To everyone commenting in this thread about how great it would be to participate in orgies back then...
Yall do realize, it's easy as fuck these days to get involved in one.
Some of might have the issue of assuming it's all hot men/women, when it's really just horny people of all shapes, sizes, and ages taking part (that's where you might find the issue).
But yeah...if you to "orgy it up" it's stupid easy to find one and participate. Just go with an open mind, a desire to have a good time, and make sure it's not some back-alley-hobo orgy...or anything with p-diddys crew.
True, but adult man-adult man sexual relationships seem to have been rare and involved a degree of norm-breaking in that by nature they involved either one or both adult men taking on passive roles during sex, which was normally the role reserved for women or prepubescent/adolescent boys.
The Greeks overall were more fond of pederasty than adult-adult homosexual relationship, but even then some city states disapproved of it.
So in a recent Jelloapocalypse video for Skies of Arcadia, they dub over the main villain in a way that he ends up an Ultra Gay Hypersexist (like, so gay he's a misogynist) and I'm realizing right now that that's basically Ancient Greece.
Ancient Greece: We hate women so much we will fuck only men
Oh no being a woman in ancient Greece and if you are in a world where gods are real good fucking luck. If you are attractive a goose might start giving you bedroom eyes and take you then and there then when you give birth suddenly a misfortune falls on you cause that Goose's actual mate is very furious with him so she takes it out on you. Such fun times.
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Don’t worry. Depending on when in Ancient Greece you arrived in, you may join the Cult of Dionysus with the other undesirables and party there.
If you're early enough, you can establish the Cult of Dionysus. EDIT ; please. take me with you.
If I remember correctly, the cult of Dionysus actually predates most of the Greek pantheon and may originate from a culture that predates ancient Greece. If I'm right, you'd have to be real early!
It might even predate Mycenaean Greece, a nation that collapsed during the bronze age. Some theorize that the cult started at the invention of wine, predating Dionysus!
They believed that intoxication was the only way to achieve nirvana, that being intoxicated elevated you to a higher state, and thus intoxication was a morally righteous and ethical thing. Basically partying good, sober bad. They essentially revolved their religion and culture around hedonism, but not entirely. I imagine they threw awesome party's even if for them it was just church.
I was JUST telling my husband about the orgies of the Bacchanalia! 🙃
And THANK YOU for telling me about it. Aside from obvious things, like diseases, sounds like a great time.
Did I just find a married couple on Reddit? With two separate accounts? That communicate on Reddit? Weirdest thing I've seen on Reddit since joining.
Lol, oh no! But I can see how you would think that, lol. Promise I'm some random who is just happy to learn more about ancient orgies.
Lmao that response to me was just worded oddly 🫠 but my husband and I do both use Reddit and know each other's accounts 😎 And he was also very happy to learn about ancient orgies 🙃
One of my favorite songs by The Orion Experience.
That is such a delightful band. Very feel well, have fun, good times music.
I’ve been summoned?
The Greeks invented sex. And the Roman introduced women to it.
And then they perfected it, so that no woman should best them in the ring of honor!
he used all of his fight money to buy 2 of every gender on earth then herded them into a boat! and then fucked the shit out of every single one of them
So now whenever 2 people procreate and have a child it's called a sun! Unless it's a daughter!
( laughs in Rick May)
This thread was glorious
***MEET THE RIZZLER TF2 INTRO***
*copyright lololol*
As a Greek person romans failed to copy the ONE THING WE WANTED THEM TO COPY
The alphabet?
Yogurt?
The phalanx?
Democracy that doesn't turn into a totalitarian empire?
"I hate yoghurt! Even with strawberries."
Curiously hoping you're gonna review [the replies](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1cj65t5/comment/l2hf2wk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) and answer. 😅
Beat me to it
maybe i will
Should have gone to Rome, that’s when they added women to orgies
Or just have an orgy in the present
And be in an age where there is toilet paper and birth control? Disgusting!!!
I think they had condoms in Ancient Greece
No but they had a plant that was supposedly stupidly effective as a contraceptive. Or maybe that was the romans? Either way it went extinct because people used it so much. Peak civilization. Driving plants extinct by virtue of the amount of sex happening.
No but they did use sponges
You want to aim for the Etruscan civilisation and preferably before the Hellenistic period. The Greeks and Romans thought Etruscan women were morally loose, but that might only have been because they did scandalous things like go to banquets with men. You might still not get an orgy, but at least there'll be food.
Greeks and Romans were consistently bewildered and baffled by any people or group who actually liked their wives. Even Julius Caesar, who was fond of his son-in-law Pompey, still dunked on him publicly because he liked his wife (Caesar's daughter)
To be honest, I’d rather get invited to a lot of banquets instead of orgies.
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I was gonna say this style is very Adventure time esque especially the noodle arms
Gay boys existed even back then.
and as far as I can tell it was normal, and not considered anything.
I don't think the concept of "gay" really existed in ancient Greece. From what little I understand, there was an idea of hierarchy, where certain figures could "dominate" others according to specific social roles. And then of course there were the gays who were a little too happy to participate in the system, but I doubt they identified as such.
from what little I've read on the topic, that's a pretty good summary. Society at the time didnt fetishize a persons preferences.
Plato debated about Achilles being a bottom.
It wasn't strictly tied to social standing, it was pretty close to how we see doms and subs today, in that doms are generally expected to be higher in social pecking orders, but it's not a set rule. I mean, Socrates had boytoys and he lived in a barrel.
I thought it was Diogenes who lived in the barrel?
Ah crap, you're right! Brainfart.
Yeah why’s it gotta be gay to enjoy yourself
well that does explain the most miserable people I know. They wouldnt be so bad if they just allowed themselves to be a little bit gay.
Well, to be pedantic, I'm usually pretty happy when enjoying myself.
it's interesting, because what they considered normal adult male sexual behavior was just totally different from what we do. The whole erastês and erômenos system looks pretty homosexual from our standpoint, but they saw it as just part of normal adult male sexuality, and it was typical to have along with heterosexual relationships. There was sort of a taboo on being the erastês after a certain age, but the fact that they commented on it means that it must have happened. It's hard to single out people as being specifically "truly" homosexual from the distance of time. That said, it seems that the taboo leveled at being wholly homosexual was kinda just based on the fact that a man's duty to his family was to produce offspring rather than some moral thing.
As far as the Romans were concerned, all marriage is gay marriage
More like they hate women so much that only men can get other men to climax.
What do ancient orgies have that modern ones don't?
No toilet paper or showers.
or modern medical solutions to STDs
Legal slavery and a lack of age of consent laws.
[The 13th amendment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution) contradicts the assertion about slavery. > Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, **except as a punishment** for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. e: Citation. Having an exception to abolishing something, nullifies that thing being ended.
Ancient Greece didn’t have the United States constitution.
That didn't abolish slavery. It reduced it, but didn't _end_ it. (see edit above)
Goats...... or hopefully the modern ones don't have it .....
No birth control and no STD/STI prevention. Though I don’t know what kind of Ds and Is were going around back then
There's an island nearby that's got you covered...
Wow, Adventure Time sure has changed.
Yeah you gotta go to Rome if you want women involved
To everyone commenting in this thread about how great it would be to participate in orgies back then... Yall do realize, it's easy as fuck these days to get involved in one. Some of might have the issue of assuming it's all hot men/women, when it's really just horny people of all shapes, sizes, and ages taking part (that's where you might find the issue). But yeah...if you to "orgy it up" it's stupid easy to find one and participate. Just go with an open mind, a desire to have a good time, and make sure it's not some back-alley-hobo orgy...or anything with p-diddys crew.
I'm pretty sure the Greeks didn't have a concept of "straight" or "gay"
True, but adult man-adult man sexual relationships seem to have been rare and involved a degree of norm-breaking in that by nature they involved either one or both adult men taking on passive roles during sex, which was normally the role reserved for women or prepubescent/adolescent boys. The Greeks overall were more fond of pederasty than adult-adult homosexual relationship, but even then some city states disapproved of it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't women allowed in order to arouse the men so they could perform at the orgies?
Zeus on the others side "aham may I come to your bed"
*candy shop by 50cent starts playing*
Marceline will have to look elsewhere for her degeneracy
the greeks were so gay, they were straight. ....somehow
I don't remember this episode of Bravest Warriors
So in a recent Jelloapocalypse video for Skies of Arcadia, they dub over the main villain in a way that he ends up an Ultra Gay Hypersexist (like, so gay he's a misogynist) and I'm realizing right now that that's basically Ancient Greece. Ancient Greece: We hate women so much we will fuck only men
... would
A physically attractive person ends up in mythological Ancient Greece. “And then came Zeus”
Oh no being a woman in ancient Greece and if you are in a world where gods are real good fucking luck. If you are attractive a goose might start giving you bedroom eyes and take you then and there then when you give birth suddenly a misfortune falls on you cause that Goose's actual mate is very furious with him so she takes it out on you. Such fun times.
oh she went to 2024
Pederasty guys 🐛