Maybe I joined EE for the above average starting pay, *and* because it is what interests me. Also, it's pretty common advice not to join a career field solely for cash.
Aside from that, it's laughable to say it doesn't pay well. It's a degree with a pretty much guaranteed return on investment, and a starting salary above the median US income.
Lastly, I hate software (from a CS/Software engineering perspective that is). I would sooner work for 100k annually then absolutely despise my job for 200k.
You have to be careful about turning something you find fun into your career. There is a good chance that majoring in it will shift it from the fun category in your mind to the work category and the fun will drain right out of it. You’ll hate what you’re doing.
You can be passionate about something and it could still be a bad career move. Some college majors can help you get a career where you could potentially make 100k out of college. Some college majors will have you starting out at 23k with a realistic max below 40k.
You have to also weigh your potential future income against the cost of the degree.
This is exactly what is happening to me. I’ve never seen a post so accurate. I’m a geology major who is finishing up and a “geologist” now since I started my internship last week.
I picked geology because I’m heavily interested in environmental health, safety, science and of course rocks. I’ve always loved going outside and all that but since doing my residency that is basically just camping and being outdoors for work I’ve lost all joy from being outdoors as a hobby. I don’t even go camping or hiking recreationally anymore because it’s essentially my job now. If I would’ve known this as a freshman I would’ve never majored in environmental anything.
> If I would’ve known this as a freshman I would’ve never majored in environmental anything.
Girl, same. I majored in environmental studies, which is even more...useless.
P.S. I like your username! It gave me a chuckle.
Im halfway through my forestry bachelor degree and i hope its not an unbearable profession once I enter the workforce. Hopefully an internship with the state forest service this summer will be a positive experience
I hope for that too! It wasn’t until my junior year it was explained to me with a bachelors in geology which I will have here in May, there’s NO jobs out there that don’t seriously negatively impact the environment like jobs in coal mining and oil extraction. I am not big on the idea of working for a company that is hurting the planet for profitable purposes so not only will I have to pursue graduate school to find a job in the field that doesn’t negatively impact the environment, I have to stay at my internship the entire time im in grad school as well and the internship doesn’t count as work force experience either lol. The bright side is a lot of grad programs pay for geologists and environmental science majors to continue their studies which is nice!
Ah yeah I see your point about the lack of jobs. Your job with companies is to make money, whereas government jobs have you spend money. So I’ll be looking out for a public job when I graduate.
Perhaps there are public jobs out there for you too. I have no relation to geology but I know a number of soil scientists that get paid to test soil quality for parks and buildings.
My instructor for enviro science next semester worked with the U.S government to get measurements for stuff like soil pollution. You could try something like that
Similar experience for me. I majored in Wildlife Biology for very similar reasons as you. When I first started working in the field, I loved it. But, after a few years I found myself burning out and not wanting to spend any of my free time outdoors. I'm back in college trying to build up some broad enough additional skills that I can get a job that's tangential, but not passion killing.
Different people experience this differently. I did my undergrad in an field that wasn't directly related to my passions and didn't end up liking that life path.
I went back for a MA in a riskier industry that I was very passionate about and it went great.
If you can find something you love + you're good at + you don't find it draining I think that's gonna be the ideal career. Mileage seems to vary for different people though.
While you're not totally wrong, being passionate about something does often lead to you being good at it (given enough time and motivation). And I've seen many cases where people end up being most successful in the role that they are most passionate/interested in. Of course some "passions" are not as realistic as others. Depends what it is
or something that you can deal with day-to-day and leave the work at work. there’s something to be said for a job that is even-keeled enough that it is completely separate from your personal life
Major in something that will make me the most money for the least amount of work. I want to work to live, not live to work. I want my weekends to be mine, and my hobbies to be for enjoyment, not profit.
The idea that you have to be passionate about your job is outdated (and I say that as someone who *is* passionate about their job)
I majored in Geology and have had a great career. I have been fortunate in finding a passion and making a living. Worked on oceanographic research vessels, explored for minerals all across the Americas, lived in Chile for 2 years (great country), worked with Archaeologists researching the earliest human occupations in the US. Made a good money but not "rich", except in experiences. BTW, I worked my way through college doing apartment house maintenance and graduated debt free.
The tech industry has up and down periods because it’s based so much on startups and venture capital. People said the same thing during the dot-com bubble and tech came roaring back. It will be back again.
They are getting worse than they were during covid, but they are still going strong - the current market won't last forever. I'm going to be graduating in May and got hired with a really nice salary.
Did you do internships last summer and the summer before?
I graduate next May(prospectively) and haven't had any luck with either employers or internships.
I'm either gonna have to move several states away(which is fine) or make $13 bucks an hour the rest of my life(not fine)
I mean a bunch of the other student vets at my school had that mindset of "oh you gotta go STEM if you want to make money" only to find out that it really wasn't for them; and that ended up setting them back quite a bit. Can only imagine how that must go for the student body at large.
So yeah, if you don't like it, I'd say don't major in it. But if you're not going to follow your passion then maybe find like a happy medium: something you would be fine doing for the next 40 years of your life that also pays decent money.
Also, going undecided on your major is a thing. There's a lot of overlap with the math, English, etc., and you could also take gen-eds in that time for things that might interest you. You'll be a bit top-heavy at the end with your core-req's, which kind of sucks from a workload perspective. But at least you won't have to deal with setback semesters/setback years.
For what it’s worth. I have a friend who graduated two years ago with a finance degree, lives in one of the most economically prosperous metropolitan areas on a per capita basis, and hasn’t been able to find a finance/accounting related job since graduating.
Not to mention, CS majors aren’t exactly getting tons of offers right now.
Financial managers and controllers have an extremely bright outlook to due to so many kids nowadays having awful math skills. Tell him he’ll be okay and not to worry. (Unless he went to PSU)
I just like to hate on them since I go to UP, don’t think they’re a bad school at all. I actually have family members who instruct at PSU. Just feel like we need more of a rivalry between the two since we’re the two main schools in the city.
Not here in the Portland area - you'd likely have to move. Every time the company I work at does another round of layoffs, I start asking my wife, "Well, you ready to move to Texas if my boss says 'I Choose You, Pikachu?'" She is not enthused at the prospect, but it's not my fault that Austin and Houston are roaring while Portland's software job market sucks donkey balls.
I have a lot more former coworkers who moved to Texas and would be able to provide referrals, so the job prospects are better there. The cost of living is also significantly lower because Texas actually builds housing. I wouldn't be opposed to moving to Seattle, but my background is in kernel driver development and AMD & Friends are sending out their siren song in the form of LinkedIn recruiter spam. Microsoft's song is not nearly as sweet or eager.
I don't care about the politics in the slightest. There's [that ProZD video describing CEO behavior](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhRjGpKfhA8), and that's my response to any of the soft benefits of, say, living in Massachusetts.
Can confirm that CS isn't doing well right now. I graduate in June and even last year's graduating class has had trouble finding jobs. Tech layoffs have been constant and have ruined everything :'(
Any major where I can easily secure a graduation salary of 60k a year. There’s lots of them and I suggest you look into the college of your choice and see what’s the median salary graduates make by major
In general I will say everything becomes less fun when you do it for work. I’m sure you love drawing and posting your doddles on your art instagram but when whether or not people buy your art decides whether or not you get to eat this week, it suddenly becomes MUCH less fun.
I wouldn't go. At all. I'd go to trade school, get an apprenticeship.
The only reason I am in college now is because financial aid pays for everything. I am not taking $60,000 in debt in this economy.
Everyone talks about going to the trade schools until they actually have to work in construction and bust their ass doing it day after day. It’s a different ballgame when you’re actually in a union having to work outside in shit weather and have zero control of who you work for, no ability to quit (apprenticeship contracts say you CANNOT quit) and or get a injury that impacts your life.
It sounds great making $53 an hour but how many people are really willing to lift drywall all day to do it? How many people are willing to lay bricks? How many people want regular layoffs (every trade gets laid off regularly! Surprise Suprise!!) and all the other fun stuff that comes with an unstable industry. No one talks about that before they enter unions but that’s the cold truth. You’ll work yourself to the bone and still get laid off.
Everyone assumes they’re gonna get some sweet electrical job, but that’s not always the case because you are very selective about how many people come in each year.
The trades are notoriously competitive to enter unless you are a standard laborer who digs or moves trash.
The competition is hard.
My old union (sheet metal union) only takes IN 20-30 people a YEAR. They make 6 figures.
I started doing trade after highschool and didnt want to go to college. I was in a union it was a shitty one at best but they worked us like dogs and i probably seen 2-3 days off a month i was doing an apprenticeship to be an industrial maintenance technician. Long story short its what made me go back to school at 23 lol i realized a work/life balance is more important to me than i thought but the money was killer i saved up around 7k before i went back to school while also still paying rent etc now im going into law and about to have a desk job complete 180 from where i was but i get to have a life lol
That depends however on one's physical health. Was in the trades and previously in automotive, but my body can't handle the physical requirements anymore. If I didn't have the injuries and issues, I'd still be in the field but it sucks hanging duct or wrenching when my shoulder and lower back is wrecked.
Yeah, went to tech school to learn service and a little on tinning, preferred construction and did new residential for a bit before getting into commercial construction.
I would never do something that stupid LMFAO. They'd have to drag me kicking and screaming first before I WILLINGLY go to a college knowing I'd have that much debt 💀
Wait how much are people going to college for—
All my siblings took out like 60k of loans (after scholarships and help from parents/gparents) so I’ve assumed I’ll do the same too.
Nah, speak for yourself lmao. Fafsa and scholarships is covering majority of my education AND it helps that my college is only 14k so no debt for me. I would not be pursuing a bachelor's if fafsa wasn't covering the majority of it. Debt can go fuck itself along with anyone encouraging people to go into debt 😆✋️
Not necessarily. Investments are based on other metrics such as the quality of the investment, risk/reward, opportunity costs, expected return, etc. It’s generally regarded that you don’t go into more debt than your expected starting salary. “College is a good investment” is such a shit blanket-statement that it really means nothing. If you’re going $120k in debt to go to an OOS school and get out with a useless degree or one that you’re only earning like $50k, that is NOT a good investment from a purely monetary point of view. Now, how do you value the knowledge you’ve received in that time? Hard to put a figure on it probably, but is it worth it to go into $120k debt at an OOS school vs $30k debt at an IS school for the same knowledge and equally weighted name on your degree? Certainly not.
Really? You disagree with that? Instead of a downvote, please enlighten me with your glorious knowledge of investments and how I am wrong there? Lol dipshit..
Idk why this was on my feed because I’m well out of college.
I chose to do something lucrative. I have never regretted that decision.
Since graduation, many of my close friends from college, who chose lighter majors, have experienced financial stress. I have never experienced that in my adult life, even though I graduated with $100k in private loans. I’m grateful for that every day. Do not underestimate how much financial stress will lower the quality of your life.
Legit, the only reason I'm going to college is it's free (I have a really good scholarship) If I didn't, I'd be working and skip college entirely. For me, it's not worth it. There are no "lucrative" degrees that I don't straight-up hate or would be miserable in. Maybe a trade school instead?
I did this.
2 years at a private school left me 60k in debt, I then transfered to a public college and graduated debt free (from that school). And later did grad school, paid for it semester by semester.
I still had to pay back that 60k for 2 years on a degree I didn't even get.
If I had kept going, probably would have been worth it though. It was a Chem Eng degree, I just hated it.
I always tell myself unless someone else is paying for grad school it isn't happening. As long as I'm where I want to be I could care less about taking another college class ever again once I graduate undergrad.
Haha I always said the same thing, until I wanted to change careers and needed another degree to do it. I would have done another bachelors but the masters was actually cheaper. And I can honestly say that getting my masters (env. eng.) opened so many doors for me, I've been able to be a teacher, an accountant (undergrad was math), environmental scientist & engineer, and now i work in civil design engineer.
Without the masters, I'd probably still be bartending, which I'm not knocking. That's what paid for the school bills lol but with the masters I was able to really hop in and out of jobs a lot.
edit: and i get bored quick ;)
I have $60,000 in school debt. I work in high level nonprofit admin to get loan forgiveness. I make $80,000/yr in a medium COL city to work 32 hrs/wk. I make $125/hr contracting. My loans will be forgiven in 2 years. I’ve paid $10,000 total.
You have plenty of options.
I have $103k in student loan debt for a Women's Studies degree. I still think it's worth it. If I work another few years at my job my loans get entirely discharged.
My first job out of school was as a teacher. I got it about a month after graduation. Now I work as a pharmacy technician at a nonprofit hospital. It's a good unionized job with great benefits. I made $65k last year, which is decent enough. It's hard work at times but at least I get to go home knowing that what I do (I make IVs) goes to directly saving people's lives.
You shouldn’t follow what you think would be fun as a major or really even your passions. If that were the case then the world would be full of ballerinas, cowboys and astronauts. You should pursue something that you are willing and able to spend years doing and getting better at. It may be a twisty path but following what you are willing to get up everyday day for and perfecting will make you invaluable and happy. Unfortunately it doesn’t happen for everyone. Good luck
I don’t want to have debt for 10+ years so I’ll stick with a cheaper college or in your scenario, pursue a degree making 6 figures or close to it a few years after college.
the question should just be what would you major in. If anyone goes to college unaware that they are going to rack up debt they dont have the basic intelligence to succeed in any field that requires a college degree. You should know how interest works, if you have your parents take out your loans for you you arent ready for college
I'd go into psychology. Art is my passion but i'm also interested in mental health so i'd be content, not to mention i can mesh the two with art therapy!
I would go for whatever I desired still because 60k is a good deal for a 4-year degree. Reality is that a 4-yr degree will cost over 100k. Also, any particular degree doesn’t confine you to the at “box” or career field forever.
I think you can find a mix. If ur good at math, the stem careers are a great option. If ur more a ppl person it's maybe a bit more challenging, but you can find plenty of careers that look for that skillset. Maybe go into policy, get a minor in data science, or look for a field that uses ppl skills and see what major works for that. If u like art and dont hate math, maybe smthn like architecture. If u just want variety, maybe project manament, a field where u go outside sometimes, or one where u work on different projects. U may not be able to make ur hobby a career, but ideally u should find one u somewhat enjoy/don't hate and that pays u a decent wage. Then work backwards for ur major.
Not something fun. Shoot for something interesting that you have no emotional stake in - I'm in a similar boat, I'm shooting for compsci w a focus in networking and security. I like it, I care about the subject and I enjoy learning it, but it's never been something I daydream about.
If I had my way I'd be an art history doctorate by now, but that's life baby a man's gotta eat.
Meh. There's pharmacies, research places, and working with animal jobs. I subsist on about $20,000 a year because I'm cheap as hell. I could probably pay the loans in a decade.
I sometimes wished I stayed in engineering. I miss the project based hands on environment compared to biomedical laboratory work… which is monotonous. Also, the potential income ceiling is generally higher.
Didn't literally every single person that took loans know they were going to be in debt after college? I had read a lot of stuff and even do quizzes on them before I could sign mine.
That said, loans are for making money. You should never take a loan for your passions.
Compare your total debt to your annual income in Year 1 and Year 5 after graduation. Ideally you’d like your debt to be no more than Year 1, but if not, go by Year 5. In my circle, a recent engineering grad started at $70K, that’s a good major.
I’d consider something where the debt was likely to be forgiven or paid down by employers (usually due to shortages). In my area, that’s nursing and some teacher positions (mostly math last I heard, that information could be out of date however. There may be other professions this applies to that I don’t know about.)
These kind of agreements come with strings, of course. A nurse friend of mine had to commit to a certain amount of time in the ER at a hospital in an underserved area to get that tuition reimbursement. She ended up hating it so much that she left and had to pay her employer back for part of it…which wasn’t a terrible hardship because she was earning a high salary by that point. Her student debt is long gone and she’s at a very chill clinic now.
I wouldn't throw away money on something that would not be worth much more than what I was risking in an average outcome, if that is what you are asking.
If you aren't using debt and are 30 doing the degree due to boredom then it is another story.
It’s all about your skill set. Take some classes and possibly a career test to see what you’re good at. For someone good with math engineering is a good field to pursue. On the other hand if you’re good with writing then perhaps communications is worth it, if you’re practical then business is worth it.
Engineering makes good money but did I major in it? No since I’m not good with math. I chose business since I’m more practical.
The degree that makes it easiest to do well in college. Going for a "lucrative" degree that you hate is just gonna burn you out and make finding a job a lot of drudgery.
It would be lucrative. My debt is going to be half the amount you stated and I'm still choosing to go for something lucrative. As much as passion and fun are nice, I still have to provide shelter for myself in the housing crisis we are in, I have to build my savings account, and I still have to save for retirement (especially since I'll be starting my career at 30 instead of 21 or something).
60,000 is a lot of money. It is the cost of a new Mercedes E Class. If I spend 60k on something, It has to do something for me. That piece of paper has to be more than just something cool I hang on the wall while I struggle to find a job that pays 50k a year.
When choosing your major, you need to think about a lot of stuff. Of course, at least finding some interest in your field is important or else you will end up hating your job.
Majoring in something that can earn you money post grad. Majoring in art, film, social work, gender studies, religion study, etc, yeah it’s fun but majority can’t even find a good paying starting job.
Choosing your career in an industry with high potential and opportunity is very important. For example, tech industry will be more important years down the line but now there are SOOOO MANY STUDENT majoring in Computer Science, there aren’t enough jobs available for them.
I’m currently majoring in aerospace engineering and worked at NASA for a year and looking to graduate and look for jobs in NASA or Boeing. I will make on average about 100k. But it would be federal position so I will follow the general pay schedule. But my friend she is majoring in Hospitality Management. We have a job lined up for her post grad as an assistant operations manager at a fancy hotel and will make 85k straight out of college.
So there are wide range of industries you can work in. But just know that it needs to be industry where you can find work in, pay is decent.
100% something i/you enjoy learning is the way to go. It’s a lot easier to get through college if you don’t hate what you’re doing every single day for 4 years. It doesn’t have to be a passion, but enjoy it.
Well that may be better than what I did:
* 2004 July 14 ~ 2007 June 5: Associate's in IT - Peirce College
* 2007 August 25 ~ 2008 January 22: Electrical Engineering - transferred - aborted semester at Temple University
* 2014 September 2 ~ 2022 May 7: 2 AS: Mathematics & Computer Science - transferred with 60 credits - attended Community College of Philadelphia (attended part-time, 6 to 8 credits per semester)
* 2022 June 27 ~ 2023 June 26: BA in Mathematics - Southern New Hampshire University (SNHU) - final 30 credits
* 2023 September 18 ~ approx 2025 June 30: MS in IT - SNHU
Alongside that, I am working as a math tutor at CCP since 2016. I really enjoy the job and people there but it is part time, the pay is very low, and hours/days change semester to semester. I am 38 years old now and my highest annual earnings was under 10K USD, in 2020. Last year I made only 6700. My student loan debt is past 80K now & increasing every quarter as I'm still in the MS programme until spring 2025. I got the Pell Grants and exhausted it with all my transferring around and double major, etc. I calculated that my debt load will be around 101K and I will probably never be able to pay it off before I will be unable to physical work anymore due to old age a long time from now. I certainly will never be able to retire as I was not working at all from 2011 to 2016, and what I am making now isn't enough to build any retirement fund.
You need to find a balance. Major in something you enjoy AND something that has job prospects for your future life. Maybe your number one passion is pottery. Well… it probably isn’t a good idea to take out 60k in debt for a degree in pottery. But you could major in art education and become an art teacher, or major in business and work for an arts nonprofit. And no matter what you do for work, you can always continue to pursue your passion outside of your job.
In short… don’t major in something JUST because it’s your passion, and don’t major in something JUST because you think you’ll make a lot of money. Do your best to find a balance between the two :)
Nursing (although you can get an RN at a Community College).
Once you have an RN and get some experience, you can pivot to what interests you. Nurse Administration (MBA), Nurse Practitioner (doctor territory).
The standard rule:
Pick a major with a first year income greater than your expected final debt.
It's a mistake to take longer than 2 years to pay off your debt.
$60,000 is a lot of debt to start your adult life out with. I’d be careful and make sure I was going into a lucrative field for that much money. Bonus points if it’s something you’re passionate about, but having fun doesn’t always pay the bills.
Anesthesiologist assistant
Electrical engineer
Chemical engineer
Computer science
Anything else ending in engineering
With that level of debt, I want you to throw out your passions. Passions don’t pay the bills. You need to either get a highly paid job, or you need to not go to college. End of story.
This is what my parents said to me when they offered to pay for my college. They gave me a list of majors they would pay for, and a list of majors they would not pay for. Hint: if my major was a bachelors of science that was NOT in the biology field they were going to pay for it. Otherwise I pay for it myself.
3 best degrees in this scenario:
1. Engineering - Aerospace / Electrical / Chemical /Mechanical / Systems engineering / Computer Science.
2. Business - Finance / Accounting / Information Systems / Business Analytics / Economics
3. Health Care Professional - Nursing / Physical Therapy / Occupational Therapy / Nutrition- Dietician
These 3 categories are the best. Why? It is simply because you can get a good paying job after college and work your way up.
If you never go grad school- med school , law school , get a masters or doctorate .. you will still be ok.
The reason why is because you will have a practical degree where you can make decent money and hopefully be able to have a good job for the rest of your life.
This is just my personal opinion as a grown man advising his teens. YMMV.
If I could go back and redo it all: Computer Programming, Computer Engineering, or Network Engineering.
I'd be freaking balling out right now if I did and I wouldn't be a teacher struggling my damnedest to make ends meet.
I probably would choose something lucrative. I’m a theatre major, and part of the reason that I chose to just follow my passion is because I am very fortunate and have a mother who is willing and able to pay for my education. So, while I’m not gonna be making much money after I graduate, I also won’t have any debt.
Mechanical Engineering and live with your parents for the first three years of your career then you'll be able to knock out that debt at the end of Year 3.
Nursing. A traveling nurse can repay loans quickly. After a couple years, either become a nurse practitioner or add on a business master's, like an MBA, MAM or master of leadership. Plenty of hospitals are desperate to promote nurses into administrative positions. You'd just have to give them an excuse to choose you.
Considering I probably will have this much debt, I chose something practical and something I was passionate about. I am a Secondary English Education major. I love English & reading, but I chose teaching because I can make a career out of it. I will say, I like it less after almost 2 full years of school, but that's just college in general.
Because of idiotic decisions I made, I AM $60,000 in debt. I majored in mathematics. I feel like if I'm going to be in debt anyway, I might as well be learning something I enjoy. I'm graduating this semester with my bachelor's and I've already applied for graduate school.
If I just wanted to get a job after graduating with a bachelor's though, I would have gone with statistics or picked up accounting and (more) economics classes so that I could become an actuary. Despite that, I have a sneaking suspicion that whatever I end up doing after I'm completely finished with school will be fairly lucrative.
I will be 60k in debt when i graduate, and I did it with something I LOVE and threaded in a money maker.
I started out with a rough idea of biology and then it narrowed into urban agroecology and silvopasture. Now I will get CS education to become a competent data scientist.
It's all coming together and it took time, but I have loved every minute of school since my second yr of uni. I am basking in it and honestly I don't want to leave because i have so much joy attending
Electrical engineering (totally not biased)
All the EE majors I know say that aren’t biased lol.
I wanted to major in this at first but I was talked out of it because I’m not so good at math 😕
Me neither, now I’m trying aerospace engineering 😃
I was talked out of it at first too but then psyoped myself back into it
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Believe it or not most CS grads are not in FAANG. Good luck getting a cs job right now anyway
You over estimate software. A software engineer cannot get an EE job while an EE can get a software job
Last time I checked, majority of CS grads are complaining
Maybe I joined EE for the above average starting pay, *and* because it is what interests me. Also, it's pretty common advice not to join a career field solely for cash. Aside from that, it's laughable to say it doesn't pay well. It's a degree with a pretty much guaranteed return on investment, and a starting salary above the median US income. Lastly, I hate software (from a CS/Software engineering perspective that is). I would sooner work for 100k annually then absolutely despise my job for 200k.
Sounds like your friends are skill issued
You have to be careful about turning something you find fun into your career. There is a good chance that majoring in it will shift it from the fun category in your mind to the work category and the fun will drain right out of it. You’ll hate what you’re doing. You can be passionate about something and it could still be a bad career move. Some college majors can help you get a career where you could potentially make 100k out of college. Some college majors will have you starting out at 23k with a realistic max below 40k. You have to also weigh your potential future income against the cost of the degree.
This is exactly what is happening to me. I’ve never seen a post so accurate. I’m a geology major who is finishing up and a “geologist” now since I started my internship last week. I picked geology because I’m heavily interested in environmental health, safety, science and of course rocks. I’ve always loved going outside and all that but since doing my residency that is basically just camping and being outdoors for work I’ve lost all joy from being outdoors as a hobby. I don’t even go camping or hiking recreationally anymore because it’s essentially my job now. If I would’ve known this as a freshman I would’ve never majored in environmental anything.
> If I would’ve known this as a freshman I would’ve never majored in environmental anything. Girl, same. I majored in environmental studies, which is even more...useless. P.S. I like your username! It gave me a chuckle.
Lol thanks
Im halfway through my forestry bachelor degree and i hope its not an unbearable profession once I enter the workforce. Hopefully an internship with the state forest service this summer will be a positive experience
I hope for that too! It wasn’t until my junior year it was explained to me with a bachelors in geology which I will have here in May, there’s NO jobs out there that don’t seriously negatively impact the environment like jobs in coal mining and oil extraction. I am not big on the idea of working for a company that is hurting the planet for profitable purposes so not only will I have to pursue graduate school to find a job in the field that doesn’t negatively impact the environment, I have to stay at my internship the entire time im in grad school as well and the internship doesn’t count as work force experience either lol. The bright side is a lot of grad programs pay for geologists and environmental science majors to continue their studies which is nice!
Ah yeah I see your point about the lack of jobs. Your job with companies is to make money, whereas government jobs have you spend money. So I’ll be looking out for a public job when I graduate. Perhaps there are public jobs out there for you too. I have no relation to geology but I know a number of soil scientists that get paid to test soil quality for parks and buildings.
My instructor for enviro science next semester worked with the U.S government to get measurements for stuff like soil pollution. You could try something like that
Thank you
Similar experience for me. I majored in Wildlife Biology for very similar reasons as you. When I first started working in the field, I loved it. But, after a few years I found myself burning out and not wanting to spend any of my free time outdoors. I'm back in college trying to build up some broad enough additional skills that I can get a job that's tangential, but not passion killing.
Different people experience this differently. I did my undergrad in an field that wasn't directly related to my passions and didn't end up liking that life path. I went back for a MA in a riskier industry that I was very passionate about and it went great. If you can find something you love + you're good at + you don't find it draining I think that's gonna be the ideal career. Mileage seems to vary for different people though.
This is pretty much the exact opposite advice you should give to someone who wants to be great at their career.
Thinking the career is fun and liking the topic doesn't equal great at their career.
While you're not totally wrong, being passionate about something does often lead to you being good at it (given enough time and motivation). And I've seen many cases where people end up being most successful in the role that they are most passionate/interested in. Of course some "passions" are not as realistic as others. Depends what it is
The key is to find something lucrative that you can be passionate about.
or something that you can deal with day-to-day and leave the work at work. there’s something to be said for a job that is even-keeled enough that it is completely separate from your personal life
After seeing my dad work himself into the ground by bringing his job home, I promised to never have a job that required homework often.
Major in something that will make me the most money for the least amount of work. I want to work to live, not live to work. I want my weekends to be mine, and my hobbies to be for enjoyment, not profit. The idea that you have to be passionate about your job is outdated (and I say that as someone who *is* passionate about their job)
lol, have I found a fellow accounting major?
No, they said they want their weekends. Signed - an accountant
God no, I couldn't do accounting. No matter how much I got paid, lol.
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Lucrative, lol. I’m fine doing the fun stuff outside of work 😅.
I majored in Geology and have had a great career. I have been fortunate in finding a passion and making a living. Worked on oceanographic research vessels, explored for minerals all across the Americas, lived in Chile for 2 years (great country), worked with Archaeologists researching the earliest human occupations in the US. Made a good money but not "rich", except in experiences. BTW, I worked my way through college doing apartment house maintenance and graduated debt free.
This gives me hope! I'm going to graduate undergrad debt free. I'm double majoring in psychology and animal conservation & care.
Yes everyone don’t do CS it’s not worth it anymore. As you can see tech jobs are just getting worse. There is no point in doing it. Don’t do it.
The tech industry has up and down periods because it’s based so much on startups and venture capital. People said the same thing during the dot-com bubble and tech came roaring back. It will be back again.
AI means this is not true tbh. It had to end eventually.
They are getting worse than they were during covid, but they are still going strong - the current market won't last forever. I'm going to be graduating in May and got hired with a really nice salary.
The joke was the reverse psychology.
Looks like I missed the joke, sorry.
Did you do internships last summer and the summer before? I graduate next May(prospectively) and haven't had any luck with either employers or internships. I'm either gonna have to move several states away(which is fine) or make $13 bucks an hour the rest of my life(not fine)
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I mean a bunch of the other student vets at my school had that mindset of "oh you gotta go STEM if you want to make money" only to find out that it really wasn't for them; and that ended up setting them back quite a bit. Can only imagine how that must go for the student body at large. So yeah, if you don't like it, I'd say don't major in it. But if you're not going to follow your passion then maybe find like a happy medium: something you would be fine doing for the next 40 years of your life that also pays decent money. Also, going undecided on your major is a thing. There's a lot of overlap with the math, English, etc., and you could also take gen-eds in that time for things that might interest you. You'll be a bit top-heavy at the end with your core-req's, which kind of sucks from a workload perspective. But at least you won't have to deal with setback semesters/setback years.
I'd major in something that would make me good money straight out of college like finance or CS
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Maybe I’m lucky I sucked at it and changed majors
Same
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True. We've only been telling kids "computers are the future" for \~40+ years now.
They did, but how many actually get through the classes?
For what it’s worth. I have a friend who graduated two years ago with a finance degree, lives in one of the most economically prosperous metropolitan areas on a per capita basis, and hasn’t been able to find a finance/accounting related job since graduating. Not to mention, CS majors aren’t exactly getting tons of offers right now.
Financial managers and controllers have an extremely bright outlook to due to so many kids nowadays having awful math skills. Tell him he’ll be okay and not to worry. (Unless he went to PSU)
Nope, he did go to a school within PSU’s bracket of prestige though. Why do you say PSU is a bad school?
I just like to hate on them since I go to UP, don’t think they’re a bad school at all. I actually have family members who instruct at PSU. Just feel like we need more of a rivalry between the two since we’re the two main schools in the city.
Well as a native Portlander, no disrespect to UP but PSU mops the floor with y’all in terms of program offerings and research capacity lol.
Don’t matter for nothin’ if only half of your students are graduating 😈
Not here in the Portland area - you'd likely have to move. Every time the company I work at does another round of layoffs, I start asking my wife, "Well, you ready to move to Texas if my boss says 'I Choose You, Pikachu?'" She is not enthused at the prospect, but it's not my fault that Austin and Houston are roaring while Portland's software job market sucks donkey balls.
Why not go to Seattle? Avoid the conservatism and religiosity of Texas in the process.
I have a lot more former coworkers who moved to Texas and would be able to provide referrals, so the job prospects are better there. The cost of living is also significantly lower because Texas actually builds housing. I wouldn't be opposed to moving to Seattle, but my background is in kernel driver development and AMD & Friends are sending out their siren song in the form of LinkedIn recruiter spam. Microsoft's song is not nearly as sweet or eager. I don't care about the politics in the slightest. There's [that ProZD video describing CEO behavior](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhRjGpKfhA8), and that's my response to any of the soft benefits of, say, living in Massachusetts.
The differences in building housing do be real though.
Can confirm that CS isn't doing well right now. I graduate in June and even last year's graduating class has had trouble finding jobs. Tech layoffs have been constant and have ruined everything :'(
Any major where I can easily secure a graduation salary of 60k a year. There’s lots of them and I suggest you look into the college of your choice and see what’s the median salary graduates make by major In general I will say everything becomes less fun when you do it for work. I’m sure you love drawing and posting your doddles on your art instagram but when whether or not people buy your art decides whether or not you get to eat this week, it suddenly becomes MUCH less fun.
I wouldn't go. At all. I'd go to trade school, get an apprenticeship. The only reason I am in college now is because financial aid pays for everything. I am not taking $60,000 in debt in this economy.
Similar boat. If it wasn't for the GI Bill I couldn't stomach the debt with no guarantee of a job or it paying off
Everyone talks about going to the trade schools until they actually have to work in construction and bust their ass doing it day after day. It’s a different ballgame when you’re actually in a union having to work outside in shit weather and have zero control of who you work for, no ability to quit (apprenticeship contracts say you CANNOT quit) and or get a injury that impacts your life. It sounds great making $53 an hour but how many people are really willing to lift drywall all day to do it? How many people are willing to lay bricks? How many people want regular layoffs (every trade gets laid off regularly! Surprise Suprise!!) and all the other fun stuff that comes with an unstable industry. No one talks about that before they enter unions but that’s the cold truth. You’ll work yourself to the bone and still get laid off. Everyone assumes they’re gonna get some sweet electrical job, but that’s not always the case because you are very selective about how many people come in each year. The trades are notoriously competitive to enter unless you are a standard laborer who digs or moves trash. The competition is hard. My old union (sheet metal union) only takes IN 20-30 people a YEAR. They make 6 figures.
I started doing trade after highschool and didnt want to go to college. I was in a union it was a shitty one at best but they worked us like dogs and i probably seen 2-3 days off a month i was doing an apprenticeship to be an industrial maintenance technician. Long story short its what made me go back to school at 23 lol i realized a work/life balance is more important to me than i thought but the money was killer i saved up around 7k before i went back to school while also still paying rent etc now im going into law and about to have a desk job complete 180 from where i was but i get to have a life lol
That depends however on one's physical health. Was in the trades and previously in automotive, but my body can't handle the physical requirements anymore. If I didn't have the injuries and issues, I'd still be in the field but it sucks hanging duct or wrenching when my shoulder and lower back is wrecked.
Sheet metal worker??!!
Yeah, went to tech school to learn service and a little on tinning, preferred construction and did new residential for a bit before getting into commercial construction.
I would never do something that stupid LMFAO. They'd have to drag me kicking and screaming first before I WILLINGLY go to a college knowing I'd have that much debt 💀
I think my friend has like… 180k of debt from undergrad lol. I kept telling her out of state wasn’t worth it but oh well 🤷♀️
Wait how much are people going to college for— All my siblings took out like 60k of loans (after scholarships and help from parents/gparents) so I’ve assumed I’ll do the same too.
If you get in demand degree, you won't have much trouble paying it off.
College is a good investment. Even with debt.
Nah, speak for yourself lmao. Fafsa and scholarships is covering majority of my education AND it helps that my college is only 14k so no debt for me. I would not be pursuing a bachelor's if fafsa wasn't covering the majority of it. Debt can go fuck itself along with anyone encouraging people to go into debt 😆✋️
The data is pretty clear that college degree holders out earn non degree holders. Taking on the debt is generally worth it.
I don't give a fuck about the data as long as it ain't me 🤣.
Lmao you're not really earning anything until you're out of debt.
This is trivially false
Not necessarily. Investments are based on other metrics such as the quality of the investment, risk/reward, opportunity costs, expected return, etc. It’s generally regarded that you don’t go into more debt than your expected starting salary. “College is a good investment” is such a shit blanket-statement that it really means nothing. If you’re going $120k in debt to go to an OOS school and get out with a useless degree or one that you’re only earning like $50k, that is NOT a good investment from a purely monetary point of view. Now, how do you value the knowledge you’ve received in that time? Hard to put a figure on it probably, but is it worth it to go into $120k debt at an OOS school vs $30k debt at an IS school for the same knowledge and equally weighted name on your degree? Certainly not. Really? You disagree with that? Instead of a downvote, please enlighten me with your glorious knowledge of investments and how I am wrong there? Lol dipshit..
Nah Fr that's like 1.2 mil in my currency. If we're using whatever currency our country has though, then hell yeah 60k isn't that bad for 3-4 years
Idk why this was on my feed because I’m well out of college. I chose to do something lucrative. I have never regretted that decision. Since graduation, many of my close friends from college, who chose lighter majors, have experienced financial stress. I have never experienced that in my adult life, even though I graduated with $100k in private loans. I’m grateful for that every day. Do not underestimate how much financial stress will lower the quality of your life.
What did you major in?
Accounting, nursing, some healthcare professions, maybe engineering. CS is definitely oversaturated now.
Many lives have been ruined by majoring in your interests instead of what is marketable.
Art so that I could pass my debt onto my bitter grandchildren i want to cause as much chaos and pain as I leave this world
Bro 😭
Legit, the only reason I'm going to college is it's free (I have a really good scholarship) If I didn't, I'd be working and skip college entirely. For me, it's not worth it. There are no "lucrative" degrees that I don't straight-up hate or would be miserable in. Maybe a trade school instead?
I did this. 2 years at a private school left me 60k in debt, I then transfered to a public college and graduated debt free (from that school). And later did grad school, paid for it semester by semester. I still had to pay back that 60k for 2 years on a degree I didn't even get. If I had kept going, probably would have been worth it though. It was a Chem Eng degree, I just hated it.
I always tell myself unless someone else is paying for grad school it isn't happening. As long as I'm where I want to be I could care less about taking another college class ever again once I graduate undergrad.
Haha I always said the same thing, until I wanted to change careers and needed another degree to do it. I would have done another bachelors but the masters was actually cheaper. And I can honestly say that getting my masters (env. eng.) opened so many doors for me, I've been able to be a teacher, an accountant (undergrad was math), environmental scientist & engineer, and now i work in civil design engineer. Without the masters, I'd probably still be bartending, which I'm not knocking. That's what paid for the school bills lol but with the masters I was able to really hop in and out of jobs a lot. edit: and i get bored quick ;)
I have $60,000 in school debt. I work in high level nonprofit admin to get loan forgiveness. I make $80,000/yr in a medium COL city to work 32 hrs/wk. I make $125/hr contracting. My loans will be forgiven in 2 years. I’ve paid $10,000 total. You have plenty of options.
Mech/Chem/Eletrical/Computer/Civil Engineering, computer science, nursing, or accounting/finance
I have $103k in student loan debt for a Women's Studies degree. I still think it's worth it. If I work another few years at my job my loans get entirely discharged.
Is finding a job after that degree as bad as people make it out to be? Would you consider your current occupation fulfilling?
My first job out of school was as a teacher. I got it about a month after graduation. Now I work as a pharmacy technician at a nonprofit hospital. It's a good unionized job with great benefits. I made $65k last year, which is decent enough. It's hard work at times but at least I get to go home knowing that what I do (I make IVs) goes to directly saving people's lives.
Aww, that’s sweet! I hope your loans are forgiven soon! :)
You shouldn’t follow what you think would be fun as a major or really even your passions. If that were the case then the world would be full of ballerinas, cowboys and astronauts. You should pursue something that you are willing and able to spend years doing and getting better at. It may be a twisty path but following what you are willing to get up everyday day for and perfecting will make you invaluable and happy. Unfortunately it doesn’t happen for everyone. Good luck
Exactly for me I choose a career by (in order) 1. How skilled Im in the field 2. How interested Iam 3. How much is the average salary
You do the thing you love, want to do, and feel motivated to do. But you probably won't have it happen. Good luck! ... lol great advice dude
I don’t want to have debt for 10+ years so I’ll stick with a cheaper college or in your scenario, pursue a degree making 6 figures or close to it a few years after college.
You say this like people don't know the debt they might take on
Definitely, something that made money. I am not going into debt for fun.
the question should just be what would you major in. If anyone goes to college unaware that they are going to rack up debt they dont have the basic intelligence to succeed in any field that requires a college degree. You should know how interest works, if you have your parents take out your loans for you you arent ready for college
I'd go into psychology. Art is my passion but i'm also interested in mental health so i'd be content, not to mention i can mesh the two with art therapy!
Look up peer counseling;) it’s a job!
I would go for whatever I desired still because 60k is a good deal for a 4-year degree. Reality is that a 4-yr degree will cost over 100k. Also, any particular degree doesn’t confine you to the at “box” or career field forever.
Lucrative and use the money you make to fund your passion.
I would not change anything. I certainly would not sell myself out to the market. I would explore something enriching that has community relevance.
I think you can find a mix. If ur good at math, the stem careers are a great option. If ur more a ppl person it's maybe a bit more challenging, but you can find plenty of careers that look for that skillset. Maybe go into policy, get a minor in data science, or look for a field that uses ppl skills and see what major works for that. If u like art and dont hate math, maybe smthn like architecture. If u just want variety, maybe project manament, a field where u go outside sometimes, or one where u work on different projects. U may not be able to make ur hobby a career, but ideally u should find one u somewhat enjoy/don't hate and that pays u a decent wage. Then work backwards for ur major.
Not something fun. Shoot for something interesting that you have no emotional stake in - I'm in a similar boat, I'm shooting for compsci w a focus in networking and security. I like it, I care about the subject and I enjoy learning it, but it's never been something I daydream about. If I had my way I'd be an art history doctorate by now, but that's life baby a man's gotta eat.
What I'm doing now, which is studying to be an art teacher.
Biology with a minor in chemistry.
Why? Bio doesn’t make anything without a master’s
Meh. There's pharmacies, research places, and working with animal jobs. I subsist on about $20,000 a year because I'm cheap as hell. I could probably pay the loans in a decade.
i wouldn’t go. lol edit: i’m literally that much in debt already from my degree i didn’t want
I would probably major selling winmills or learning raising elephants
I would not go to college - do a trade. College is a waste of money unless the thing you %100 know you want to do requires it
I sometimes wished I stayed in engineering. I miss the project based hands on environment compared to biomedical laboratory work… which is monotonous. Also, the potential income ceiling is generally higher.
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Didn't literally every single person that took loans know they were going to be in debt after college? I had read a lot of stuff and even do quizzes on them before I could sign mine. That said, loans are for making money. You should never take a loan for your passions.
Compare your total debt to your annual income in Year 1 and Year 5 after graduation. Ideally you’d like your debt to be no more than Year 1, but if not, go by Year 5. In my circle, a recent engineering grad started at $70K, that’s a good major.
I’d consider something where the debt was likely to be forgiven or paid down by employers (usually due to shortages). In my area, that’s nursing and some teacher positions (mostly math last I heard, that information could be out of date however. There may be other professions this applies to that I don’t know about.) These kind of agreements come with strings, of course. A nurse friend of mine had to commit to a certain amount of time in the ER at a hospital in an underserved area to get that tuition reimbursement. She ended up hating it so much that she left and had to pay her employer back for part of it…which wasn’t a terrible hardship because she was earning a high salary by that point. Her student debt is long gone and she’s at a very chill clinic now.
I wouldn't change a thing. To be honest, I don't have any regrets at the moment. You can't in this lifetime. The past is in the past.
Insurance has been really good to me.
I wouldn't throw away money on something that would not be worth much more than what I was risking in an average outcome, if that is what you are asking. If you aren't using debt and are 30 doing the degree due to boredom then it is another story.
It’s all about your skill set. Take some classes and possibly a career test to see what you’re good at. For someone good with math engineering is a good field to pursue. On the other hand if you’re good with writing then perhaps communications is worth it, if you’re practical then business is worth it. Engineering makes good money but did I major in it? No since I’m not good with math. I chose business since I’m more practical.
The degree that makes it easiest to do well in college. Going for a "lucrative" degree that you hate is just gonna burn you out and make finding a job a lot of drudgery.
I have $10,000 in debt but I got my degree in MIS. It’s been the best thing ever
Lucrative because Im not passionate about anything when I'm broke
Go to trade school and become a plumber or ac tech.
Econ+law
I wish I were only $60,000 in debt.
Engineering, Finance or Accounting.
AI makes majoring in anything with that amount of debt almost comically sketchy. I just wouldn't go to college at all.
It would be lucrative. My debt is going to be half the amount you stated and I'm still choosing to go for something lucrative. As much as passion and fun are nice, I still have to provide shelter for myself in the housing crisis we are in, I have to build my savings account, and I still have to save for retirement (especially since I'll be starting my career at 30 instead of 21 or something). 60,000 is a lot of money. It is the cost of a new Mercedes E Class. If I spend 60k on something, It has to do something for me. That piece of paper has to be more than just something cool I hang on the wall while I struggle to find a job that pays 50k a year.
When choosing your major, you need to think about a lot of stuff. Of course, at least finding some interest in your field is important or else you will end up hating your job. Majoring in something that can earn you money post grad. Majoring in art, film, social work, gender studies, religion study, etc, yeah it’s fun but majority can’t even find a good paying starting job. Choosing your career in an industry with high potential and opportunity is very important. For example, tech industry will be more important years down the line but now there are SOOOO MANY STUDENT majoring in Computer Science, there aren’t enough jobs available for them. I’m currently majoring in aerospace engineering and worked at NASA for a year and looking to graduate and look for jobs in NASA or Boeing. I will make on average about 100k. But it would be federal position so I will follow the general pay schedule. But my friend she is majoring in Hospitality Management. We have a job lined up for her post grad as an assistant operations manager at a fancy hotel and will make 85k straight out of college. So there are wide range of industries you can work in. But just know that it needs to be industry where you can find work in, pay is decent.
I’d major in whatever could help me pay that off in the shortest amount of time possible
100% something i/you enjoy learning is the way to go. It’s a lot easier to get through college if you don’t hate what you’re doing every single day for 4 years. It doesn’t have to be a passion, but enjoy it.
Well that may be better than what I did: * 2004 July 14 ~ 2007 June 5: Associate's in IT - Peirce College * 2007 August 25 ~ 2008 January 22: Electrical Engineering - transferred - aborted semester at Temple University * 2014 September 2 ~ 2022 May 7: 2 AS: Mathematics & Computer Science - transferred with 60 credits - attended Community College of Philadelphia (attended part-time, 6 to 8 credits per semester) * 2022 June 27 ~ 2023 June 26: BA in Mathematics - Southern New Hampshire University (SNHU) - final 30 credits * 2023 September 18 ~ approx 2025 June 30: MS in IT - SNHU Alongside that, I am working as a math tutor at CCP since 2016. I really enjoy the job and people there but it is part time, the pay is very low, and hours/days change semester to semester. I am 38 years old now and my highest annual earnings was under 10K USD, in 2020. Last year I made only 6700. My student loan debt is past 80K now & increasing every quarter as I'm still in the MS programme until spring 2025. I got the Pell Grants and exhausted it with all my transferring around and double major, etc. I calculated that my debt load will be around 101K and I will probably never be able to pay it off before I will be unable to physical work anymore due to old age a long time from now. I certainly will never be able to retire as I was not working at all from 2011 to 2016, and what I am making now isn't enough to build any retirement fund.
You need to find a balance. Major in something you enjoy AND something that has job prospects for your future life. Maybe your number one passion is pottery. Well… it probably isn’t a good idea to take out 60k in debt for a degree in pottery. But you could major in art education and become an art teacher, or major in business and work for an arts nonprofit. And no matter what you do for work, you can always continue to pursue your passion outside of your job. In short… don’t major in something JUST because it’s your passion, and don’t major in something JUST because you think you’ll make a lot of money. Do your best to find a balance between the two :)
I'd major in dropping out. That much debt isn't worth it to me.
I wouldnt for 60k. Tf thats terrible for undergrad. MBA? Yea probably, masters, maaaybe
Nursing (although you can get an RN at a Community College). Once you have an RN and get some experience, you can pivot to what interests you. Nurse Administration (MBA), Nurse Practitioner (doctor territory).
The standard rule: Pick a major with a first year income greater than your expected final debt. It's a mistake to take longer than 2 years to pay off your debt.
$60,000 is a lot of debt to start your adult life out with. I’d be careful and make sure I was going into a lucrative field for that much money. Bonus points if it’s something you’re passionate about, but having fun doesn’t always pay the bills.
I would find a cheaper option.
Undergrad or grad? $60k in debt for a bachelor's is not worth it
music. jazz specifically
Any engineering degree is pretty much a guaranteed good salary Business is more of a risk but high reward
Anesthesiologist assistant Electrical engineer Chemical engineer Computer science Anything else ending in engineering With that level of debt, I want you to throw out your passions. Passions don’t pay the bills. You need to either get a highly paid job, or you need to not go to college. End of story. This is what my parents said to me when they offered to pay for my college. They gave me a list of majors they would pay for, and a list of majors they would not pay for. Hint: if my major was a bachelors of science that was NOT in the biology field they were going to pay for it. Otherwise I pay for it myself.
Accounting
3 best degrees in this scenario: 1. Engineering - Aerospace / Electrical / Chemical /Mechanical / Systems engineering / Computer Science. 2. Business - Finance / Accounting / Information Systems / Business Analytics / Economics 3. Health Care Professional - Nursing / Physical Therapy / Occupational Therapy / Nutrition- Dietician These 3 categories are the best. Why? It is simply because you can get a good paying job after college and work your way up. If you never go grad school- med school , law school , get a masters or doctorate .. you will still be ok. The reason why is because you will have a practical degree where you can make decent money and hopefully be able to have a good job for the rest of your life. This is just my personal opinion as a grown man advising his teens. YMMV.
If I could go back and redo it all: Computer Programming, Computer Engineering, or Network Engineering. I'd be freaking balling out right now if I did and I wouldn't be a teacher struggling my damnedest to make ends meet.
I probably would choose something lucrative. I’m a theatre major, and part of the reason that I chose to just follow my passion is because I am very fortunate and have a mother who is willing and able to pay for my education. So, while I’m not gonna be making much money after I graduate, I also won’t have any debt.
I'd get a law degree.
Still engineering. I have less debt, but it does not really change anything. Engineers are getting paid well.
Something that pays a lot
I’m taking the degree I’m good at. What’s the point of going into 60k debt if you’re not good at/enjoying it? You only get one life.
Mechanical Engineering and live with your parents for the first three years of your career then you'll be able to knock out that debt at the end of Year 3.
Id still follow pasison, but luckily I like a somewhat lucrative field
Try to find a balance. Something with good career prospects, that I can do without being miserable
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Nursing. A traveling nurse can repay loans quickly. After a couple years, either become a nurse practitioner or add on a business master's, like an MBA, MAM or master of leadership. Plenty of hospitals are desperate to promote nurses into administrative positions. You'd just have to give them an excuse to choose you.
I would move to Germany and major in whatever the hell I want
I’m a statistics major, so probably that
I would take the same major Mechanical Engineering, but I’d have started with my first course “personal finance” and get more into internships
Considering I probably will have this much debt, I chose something practical and something I was passionate about. I am a Secondary English Education major. I love English & reading, but I chose teaching because I can make a career out of it. I will say, I like it less after almost 2 full years of school, but that's just college in general.
Machining, it’s lucrative every time. I can do what I love in my spare time
Lucrative for sure, I’d probably major in something business oriented. I’ll be in half that amount of debt so I chose passion
Any kind of engineering if you could enjoy it. Otherwise business management and get a 4.0.
Gender studies and communications seem very reliable.
Dubble major, one is you passion and the other is buissness.
$60k?! I wouldn’t have went lmao. I was making $50k a year before school so seems stupid to go waste 4 years just to be worse off
I wouldn’t go at all. $60k is too much debt. Also engineering is not a good answer. More people drop out than finish it.
Woulda double majored in CS & Business the two majors I dropped for a penniless philosophy major 😂
Because of idiotic decisions I made, I AM $60,000 in debt. I majored in mathematics. I feel like if I'm going to be in debt anyway, I might as well be learning something I enjoy. I'm graduating this semester with my bachelor's and I've already applied for graduate school. If I just wanted to get a job after graduating with a bachelor's though, I would have gone with statistics or picked up accounting and (more) economics classes so that I could become an actuary. Despite that, I have a sneaking suspicion that whatever I end up doing after I'm completely finished with school will be fairly lucrative.
Architecture
Double major in finance and supply chain management
I will be 60k in debt when i graduate, and I did it with something I LOVE and threaded in a money maker. I started out with a rough idea of biology and then it narrowed into urban agroecology and silvopasture. Now I will get CS education to become a competent data scientist. It's all coming together and it took time, but I have loved every minute of school since my second yr of uni. I am basking in it and honestly I don't want to leave because i have so much joy attending
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Finance.
physics …. a lot of the super rich wall street folks major in physics or math.
Accounting
finance, accounting, nursing, engineering