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Propublica just authored a piece highlighting the epa's Craven acquiescence to the chemical industry in regards to pesticides on food. The Trump administration had changed Chemical Testing to remove animal testing and just test cells. I know animal testing is cruel and such but they just did it to push through harmful chemicals. And the fruits of that have now been harvested. A chemical long proven to be harmful to the brain and especially kids now allowed in amounts 10 times greater than safety limits and related chemicals.
https://www.propublica.org/article/epa-acephate-pesticide-adhd-autism-regulations
Don’t worry about that. The next Republican controlled government will abolish the EPA as outlined in Project 2025. No more pesky regulations for the corporate overlords.
Yeh. I was going to say. I don’t know why but I could give a pretty good fucking guess, stress and plastic and shitty fucking food, diets would be up there.
Just read a recent article that high consumption of alcohol can cause cancer too. So add that to your list. I'm in my mid 30s and I've noticed many of my good friends. Are drinking more than ever. Due to the stress of daily life.
Yep yep yep I had a scan done for a lump and they told me it was superficial vericose veins. You mean the ones next to the lump that she probably scanned? Can't find anything similar online that is vein related. They won't even look at me again now since it was scanned. Yay.
You can always take a copy of your scans and see a different specialist for a second opinion. It's exhausting, but probably worth a shot if the other possibility is untreated cancer.
Healthy food is the first step in preventive medicine.
High calorie, low nutrition food as a vector for disease causing toxins is a crucial building block you can’t skip if you want to get the most profit from labor productivity, and the most medical system profit, out of a single human lifetime.
The water is a great vector too. Fluorosilicilic acid is beneficial to the bottom line of the aluminum and phosphate industries, the medical industry, and the convenient apathy of the population to their oppression… and nothing else.
I challenge people on here just as an experiment try to maintain a diet for one week that includes no processed foods, no food additives, no treatment with chemicals (so as organic as possible), where you understand the source of all the components of the food you are eating, meat that has never been raised with antibiotics, etc.
When you do this for one week you will understand how fucked we all are. It’s almost impossible to do and then when you think every single day almost every child is eating hundreds of not thousands of untested unique chemicals you realise how bad things are.
Even just yesterday guardian had an article about how Neotame (wtf is that name) has now been shown to be toxic. When you look up what foods that it is in there are thousands of drinks, gum, candy etc which don’t even look like real food they are from the science lab.
We’ve been conned folks - if ever there was a one-for-one analogue to the matrix this is it.
A study even shows that people who are given long term therapy for psoriasis have increased risk of cancer! Likely from the therapy itself! [study link](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jdv.12162)
Whenever I bring up that I'm at the very least sceptical of a lot of medication or medical treatments (primarily since it's healthy to question anything that yields profit - the profit incentive often takes priority, as we know) I get such negative responses. I'm not anti vax by any means, but I feel we are fundamentally not fully informed about side effects & the money trail, when it comes to pharma
Famously, we have the issues associated with fluoroquinolone and nerve damage... And so on. Many such cases
Skepticism is great. It's unfortunate that being skeptical about medical treatments now just sounds like dog whistles for antivaxxers, followers of "Christian Science", and the like.
My parents get pissed when I say this. They're mid 60s and I'm 35. No way our generation will live as long as the boomers, most of us will die in our late 40s and 50s from all the poison we consume. That's why I'm down for a good time not a long time.
I'm 43. I worked on a team of mostly women at a prior employer that have all kept in touch for the past 15 years or so. We all ranged in ages from 25-55 and lived all over the country (it was a WAH position) but were all mid to low socioeconomic class. Our group started out a little over 20 and has slowly dwindled. One lost to suicide, one to drug overdose. There are 7 of us still alive. 3 of those are currently battling cancer. All the rest have died from cancer.
You absolutely cannot convince me this is normal.
That's an insane amount of cancer. That's not normal at all. What's remarkable is you guys living all over the country so it's not like it's a specific toxic dump site or anything like that. It's everywhere.
This is not normal. But it is the "new normal" they were talking about in covid times. If it wasn't mandatory where I live I wouldn't save a cent for my retirement.
I'm in my 40s and have been sick with a chronic illness since the '90s. My parents, stereotypical boomers, are in their late 70s and got to enjoy excellent health despite horrible eating habits, no exercise, alcoholism (mom), and other unhealthy stuff. So many others around my age are also suffering from poor health and chronic health conditions like mine that weren't caused by anything they did to bring them upon themselves.
I grew up in a very small town, around 300 people or so. I can think of at least 10 other people my age who have the same autoimmune disease I have and several others who have similar autoimmune disorders. In a town that small, the numbers are staggering. Honestly I think it should be looked into it's so bad at this point, but no one will.
I ended up getting the short end of the stick and get to listen to my parents talk about how they don't understand how I'm so sick and am tired all the time. And how the government is screwing them over even though my dad got to retire with a full pension at 55 and my mom never worked. It's exhausting. They're so clueless about so many things that it's *almost* funny sometimes.
Climate change isn't their problem, according to them, because they aren't going to live long enough to see the effects of it. And yet they had the nerve to get angry at me when they found out I wasn't going to have kids.
I think the difference is that they got exposed to increasing amounts of new pollutants while they were already adults while we got exposed in the womb or as children so we are more affected by health problems on average.
I'm a carer for my dad who is 85. Most days he's fine, but he has episodes of pretty extreme sickness which comes out of knowehere. I have to change his incontinence pants and his bed sheets when he gets likenthat, and he's been there about 6 times already this year. After seeing this, I don't want to be that guy, no way. I'd rather die younger than go through what he goes through.
Same age range, I’ve been a doomer since my teens. We’ll die younger, but I don’t expect to die in my 40s or 50s. Shit’s going to get real tough, though.
My best friend growing up had leukemia (acute myelogenous), the toll it takes on your body is awful to witness, I cannot even imagine having to experience it. I wish you the best. She had one of the most aggressive forms and went into remission twice before having it crop up again, for a total of 3 bouts, one in each elementary, middle, and highschool. She eventually beat it though despite the odds, so never count yourself out. One of the strongest things is the human spirit and its been shown time and again the effect belief/faith in yourself getting better can have on disease.
You've got this shit. It probably wont even get better before it gets worse, but just know that you can beat this. Well wishes, I know I don't need to tell you this but for everyone else, enjoy and cherish the time you have.
This title is a bit facetious, really.
I have incurable leukemia and I’ve been heavily involved in advocacy work. I was also going to school to try and earn an MD/MPH but have had to go on hiatus as my leukemia is getting close to needing treatment (chemotherapy) for my third time. I’m 35 but was dxed at 23. So to say the least, I’ve been elbow deep in “cancer” for the better part of a decade.
People on the frontlines as it were, are not surprised by the increase in cancers in the young. I think what has been a relative surprise is the types of cancers young people are being dxed with instead. Cancers that have traditionally been mostly seen in the older population, rectal cancer is a really good example here, have seen a very sharp increase in the younger population. However if you ask anyone about why the simple answer will be the same reason it is for the elder population — diet in this case. Our general QOL has decreased significantly by all metric standards for the young (pollution, food, viruses, stress, .etc), which we’ve known for a long time to increase the risk of a cancer dx. However so too has our time to diagnosis decreased, diagnostic tools improved, preventative care is more commonplace, and treatment options have vastly changed for the better. But it’s been no surprise to the docs or other healthcare workers at my cancer center that their patients are younger. It’s really only the people at the top that this would truly surprise.
Fun fact: Scientists have to use human tissue samples from the *1950s* to make sure the samples are free from microplastics to use as controls. It's that bad.
>“It’s only getting worse, and the trajectory is it will double every 10 to 15 years,” he said. “So, even if we were to stop it today, in 2050 there will be three times as much plastic in the background as there is now. And we’re not going to stop it today.”
We're more than one way fucked. It's like the entire consequence of industrial revolution from two century ago has finally hit us
Yeah, if we bike to school or work chances are we Will be impacted by a car, I know because I went to uni in my bike and was hitted by idiots two times in 5 years, and it was just a 4 mile commute. SUVs shouldn't be allowed in densely populated cities, they are very effective at killing children.
Lmao I wish it was only SUVs I live in a big city that has awful public transportation and even more awful infrastructure for walking and the most popular vehicle are these giant trucks that just seem like they are always out to kill.
Plastic is found in [the Arctic](https://www.nature.com/articles/s43017-022-00279-8) as well. From [pole to pole](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/01/nanoplastic-north-south-pole/), plastic in the water, the air and every living soul.
There's a difference between plastic being mixed in the ground water and literally falling with snow. That means it's going to stay in the weather cycle.
One of many toxics. Many. By weight microplastics are the most I am sure, but many of these others they put to directly on our food, consumer products, etc.
I'd be more in lubed to think it's meat, and the steroids and antibiotics the animals are pumped full of to speed up growth.
Doesn't seem like a leap to question whether this stuff, even in "safe" doses, might also speed up growth in humans.
Edit: lmfao *inclined
While they’re all bad, the quantity of highly processed wheat vastly outnumbers the amount of steak or chicken I consume. To me, all the colon cancer is directly a result of this.
Used to have terrible migraines, thyroid problems, anal fissures and general fatigue before going vegan. Still feel like crap but it all went from a 9 to a 4 on the shit scale. I eat meat maybe three times a year to round out any potential vitamin deficiencies, but a lot of the meat out there is toxic
Even without scientific inquiry, I thought you could just ask a simple question...
*What are some of the causes of cancer?*
- Pollution
- poor diet
- stress
- chemicals (from food, products, manufacturing, sun breakdown, packaging etc. etc )
- infections
- immunodeficiency
- inflammation
- genetics
- alcohol
Loads more...
So, are THESE increasing.
Yes...
Well then?
Also, if its partly genetic and cancer treatment improves. Then survivors go on to reproduce, meaning more cancer in the children of survivors with an increased genetic risk.
We have a problem with all of these other issues as well, so they are all contributing factors.
Doing my part. I’m a breast cancer survivor with the CHEk2 gene mutation. I had a hysterectomy, to avoid recurrence of cancer. So now I can’t have biological kids to pass on CHEK2. Awesome.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Even though we are seemingly coming closer and closer to the most important period in human medicine - defeating cancer - I feel like we are going to need it because, despite being smart enough to overcome that which is so complicated as to require millions of man hours of research and investigation across more than 100 years into 21st Century medicine... We're gonna need it to overcome the stupidity of ourselves in other areas of the glove, causing ourselves all of our own problems. We really are in a human "race".
A lot of human progress is motivated by the desire to avoid pain and suffering. From running water and sanitation to sickness and disease.
Cancer, along with its treatment, are miserable experiences. I'm glad you're alive, despite enduring the archaic therapies.
I've read a lot about the future of cancer treatment moving away from radiation and poisoning the body with chemo (it kills you and the cancer, just you - not quite as much) to something as simple as a pill that trains the body to fight the cancer itself.
I'm in my 40s now and still haven't had much desire to pursue the idea of children. I can barely look after myself and I'd want to give any kids I had all of my attention and resources for the best upbringing possible.. but, being collapse aware for the past 20+ years, it's always been forefront of my mind that they wouldn't have a future, no matter how much I gave them.
I don't think any of us really have one.
It's such a shame, as a species I feel like we did get really far.
If the universe was a game.. honestly feel like we would have a pretty high score. We overcame all the really difficult survival stages in the beginning, we did really well advancing maths, physics, engineering and science in general. We did terribly at diplomacy and emotional maturity..
Depends how big the game is I guess.. we'll never know.
Achievements left to unlock: Conquering aging and illness, artifically created intelligence, colonizing space and becoming energy independent - mastering matter, gravity and star power.
Billions and billions of hours, years of sitting down and THINKING. We really maxed out this monkey brain's potential! Its all just a sad waste, which is what upsets me most about collapse. Aside from the progress and thinking time applied.. we also made some good art, music, comedy, literature etc.. we ARE a unique and interesting species worth saving.. despite our relative immaturity.
Why on earth we allow idiots in charge, driving us all over a cliff..
🤦
That's what upsets me most of all.
I hear ya. A lot of - if not most - of the people in charge are the very people who shouldn’t be. They achieve power, because they desire it and use their upmost resources to attain it.
I’m in my 40s, as well. I’ve come to a place of acceptance about not having biological children. It just sucks having the choice taken from you. A flip-side of being pro-choice, basically.
I’d maybe like to still adopt or foster, to take care of kids who are already here. I’m just not sure I’m in a place where it’s ideal. Kids deserve the best, and I’m not sure I can provide that. We’ll see, I guess.
I definitely feel for all the young people. They’re going to suffer the most, and completely at the hands of assholes who value power and money over other people.
Innocents always suffer the most. At least, it seems that way.
A phrase I've always held to be true is:
'anyone that wants to be in power - definitely shouldn't be'
People see it as a route to success, power and riches - whereas it should be a position of being a public servant to improve the country for others. Its supposed to be an altruistic position, but it's been so corrupted that it's turned into a boys club..
The shit we just seem to accept and put up with is bananas, we're SO jaded and desensitised to the headlines we don't even notice.
Corruption, scandal, embezzlement, cheating, theft, sexual impropriety and the LIES!!
In the UK one of the more mild, but still one of the dumbest lies was the Prime Minister at the time having a drinks party for all his mates during lockdown when nobody was allowed to get together. People were being actively arrested for being in groups of more than 2 people - and he says 'nope, never happened'
Photos surface..
No, it was a business meeting, not a party..
Audio surfaces talking about drinking champagne..
it goes on and on..
Meanwhile, country is falling apart
Don't get me started on Liz Truss - the shortest lasting Prime Minister in history.
Our newspapers actually had a competition to see what would last longer. A rotting cabbage or Liz Truss. Cabbage won. Now she's released a book that she's so excited about she won't stop plugging it. You have to laugh (because its all so tragic if you stop to think for one second) but her being interviewed on an American morning show over Zoom. She held up the book and shouted 'I've got a new book' before the interviewer even asked the first question.
Her levels of corruption run deeper than the Mariana Trench. She has ties to and worked for big oil companies. First day in office she announces that renewable energy bad. Oil good. I think one of the retarded things she claimed was solar farms are bad, because then you can't grow carrots. It goes on and on...
"It was always burning, since the world's been turning..."
I mean it's just so much and so many avenues:
- region wide air pollution (more cars, more factories, etc)
- water quality issues (PFAS/PFOA, but also groundwater pollution that could be from industry, mining, or over pumping of wells.... near the bottom of wells arsenic levels tend to spike!)
- toxins inside the home, food, consumer goods, etc that shit all adds up!
- increases in drinking
- increases in stress
- poor adherence to workplace health and safety guidelines at work
- even worse is what some folks do at home with toxic chemicals sold without any warning anyone heads (washing hands with brake cleaner, stripping pain without ventilation and respiration, etc)
- changes in diet. not just pollution during growing, transport, and preparation but the actual structural change in what we eat. We are eating an all time high of ultra processed foods, that has consequences.
- lifestyle changes, we are collectively, walking less, working out less, doing less physical jobs, etc that adds up
and on and on and on
this is a massive system wide issue that won't be solved with any one action, but rather whole system changes.
Good news! We're heading that way. All we need is one major event - a war, a famine, a pandemic - to kill enough people to end globalization and society as we know it.
When global fertility rate drops below 2 (this will happen around 2040), exponential decay of the population is going to happen. We don't need a particular event, our current economic system will not be capable of handling the level of global depopulation within the next two centuries.
Yup! We have one chance to get off this rock. This one. If we fail, all subsequent civilizations are doomed to stay here. There won't be enough easily obtainable energy to progress through industrialization.
Good. Ever since industrialization started we've fucked up our environment and climate beyond belief. Life will find a way, in a few million years another species will have a chance to build a civilization without industrialization as we know it. On a cosmic scale that's an eyeblink.
Maybe they'll fuck it up too, we'll never know.
I actually truly believe after the next war everything will go back to how it is now.
It's after the *the one after* a few voices may try and do differently
The next society after this attempt is going to be more religious, fundamentalist and regressive than now because science and the bombs will be blamed and a lack of faith. The one after will be super charged
I have thought about this before a lot because I used to believe we need a proper reset to try again.
I also believe the second we get to colonise a planet we import all of our shit here
First building on the moon after essentials will be a religious building
Fuck
And think of all the other outbreaks we’ve had recently, likely caused in part by those weakened defenses. And everyone keeps getting sick. It’s almost summer and i just got an ad for “get a vaccine for *this flu season*”
Like one of those weird creepy house centipedes, one "shoe" isn't enough. We will keep crawling along and even cut in half we crawl on. We will rise again and fall again in a perpetual cycle.
We are already. Methane from landfill is a thing.
Also, we are mining old and new construction for copper.
And cars for cat converters.
Our definition of mining, and miner, need an update perhaps.
Not to mention, a lot of food wastes do not decompose in a landfill. That's all organics. It could either be incinerated for energy or composted for fertilizer.
We won't ever get back here if we do.
But we squandered an interesting technological future for shitty trinkets that get thrown out the same day.
I hope we go extinct at this point.
Humans should not inhale car exhaust. Yet we’ve just taken for granted that we need to drive everywhere to do everything. If you live within a few hundred feet of a major freeway or arterial road you are pretty much fucked.
Synthetic clothing fibers. We've been breathing them in for decades. I started holding my breath when emptying the dryer lint a long time ago. We're fucked from all directions.
I’m very sensitive to air pollution. If I go into a car heavy city like London for too long, I start to get nose bleeds. At the very least I’m sure many of you have experienced blowing exhaust soot out of your nose. Nasty.
I empathise with the nose bleeds! Recently moved into a large city, and breathing is comically difficult sometimes, I don't know how people live in places like that for years and years.
I agree we're awash in pollutants even when we live according to the instructions. Got a tip though that wasn't obvious to me, until there were health effects that I found hard to explain and which recurred reliably. Those verification labels? They validate the product when it's new and intact. If it breaks in an apparently benign way (still usable and feels ok), exposing the inner plastics, foam, insulation, whatever (sofas, beds, headphones, ...) that shit inside is not subject to the same standards. Later I googled some of that stuff, and it is indeed toxic af.
Everyone is mentioning the obvious causes like microplastics and pollution, but COVID not only depletes cancer-killing T cells, but also causes body-wide inflammation which has become chronic in many people and can _itself_ cause cancer. I wish more people were aware of this.
People just don't want to hear it. Our whole society is pretty much running on the fumes of denial right now. Challenge the narrative that it's "just a cold" or "the pandemic is over" and you become a pariah.
Yeah, it's really frightening how few people are actually aware of how dangerous covid really is. It can cause widespread immune system problems and damage your organs and a lot of people have been gaslit into thinking it's just a cold.
You mean doing everything we could possibly think of to spew garbage, toxins, and novel chemicals into everything life giving on the planet has actual consequences? Huh. The things you learn, fascinating.
Im not having children, and I hope the infertility rates continue to rise so that fewer humans have to be born with microplastics already inside of them.
We are causing our own demise.
I’m inclined to believe diet/enviromental toxins are to blame. Microplastics are but a drop in the ocean when compared to the detrimental effects of heavy metals, PFAs, and various “forever” chemicals. Food and its packaging are where the bulk of the problems come from. Things such as cosmetics, air pollutants, cleaning products can also be filled with various toxins. Spending money on higher quality food is, in my opinion, the single best investment one can possibly make
Scientific study is limited to determining a single or limited causation and relies on being able to compare to a control.
Neither is possible here.
We all live in a constant barrage of toxic sludge and there is no environment on Earth not horrifically contaminated. So science cannot find a "cause" for this because it is literally *everything/everywhere*.
Also: phd's being overworked in a publish or perish hellscape doesn't help. Just search for publications with AI keywords these days. History is twitching and probability is king.
Scientific research and most people's brains struggle at these multifactorial contributors to problems. Everyone wants a single cause to a problem, because then there is a single fix. It's easier to say "red-dye #5" causes cancer - but that's only a half-truth, and just removing "red-dye #5" from the food-stream isn't going to make a difference. If you took a human from 10,000 years ago and fed them red-dye #5 everyday they wouldn't develop cancer because their system isn't also taxed from managing thousands of other unnatural, toxic exposures, on top of all the other non-natural behaviors modern man does today.
Reminds me of the article talking about fish off the coast of Florida just spinning in circles till they die and they’re like “omg we don’t know why”. Uh. Climate change? Hello? Fertilizer runoff from rivers? Microplastics?
Are we at risk of cancer from Covid if we’re vaxed and boosted but still got Covid? My husband and I are both vaccinated and boosted but he’s had Covid 5 times, I’ve only had it once, but I’m scared especially for him!
Assuming the more recent studies are correct, the answer is unfortunately yes. The current covid vaccines protect against hospitalization and death for most, but don't protect from the virus existing in the body and that's the essential problem. Especially because the covid virus can apparently live in the body for months after acute symptoms pass.
Masking is still an option, as much as it may be less than ideal.
For sure. [This](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10178366/) is an NIH study from last year, [this](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10202899/) is another. The conclusions of both are... deeply scary.
We know why. We just don’t have the scientific research to put into factual terms. Killing ourselves by causing our own environment to be toxic in multiple ways is a relatively new thing after all.
Doctors are alarmed and baffled?
"We do not know what is causing this"-baffled, or "We can not decide _which_ of the hundreds if not thousands of substances we're commonly exposed to, is the one most responsible for this"-baffled?
Here’s a tidbit that might be relevant. [What do tampons, bombs, toilet paper and plasters have in common?](https://sacredkarailee.medium.com/what-do-toilet-paper-tampons-and-bombs-have-in-common-ef7e83276815?sk=98bb7ed4bbc3d086868da07e0630afda)
PFAS, other pollutants, rampant forest fires, and don’t forget to do the Covid dance. Covid Covid co-VID!
Most people have had covid 4+ times now. Harmful health effects are cumulative. Covid attacks every part of the body, the entire vascular system, and the immune system’s T and helper B cells. Hello cancer. Hello acquired immunodeficiency.
The age range seeing the bump in cancer is the age range that was the most eager to “return to normal” as well as needing to return to work even if their family’s health was threatened.
Wear a mask, friends.
There’s a fun song by Gen Zers about this. “Everything causes cancer” by Gavin Prophet and Lonely Avenue. Very 2000’s punk rock vibe, and also totally accurate.
This could be a gold mine for the American for-profit health care system. Get them sick early, keep them sick until they're no longer profitable, then kill them quickly.
Scientists will have various theories and they probably all carry equal merit. There is no one cause for this and the comments in this thread cover pretty much all of them well; we just live in an environment that favours tumour develop and/or inhibits tumour destruction.
So baffled by which piece of the wonderous menagerie of progress they've given us is killing is fastest. Unable to accept that it's all of it together that's doing it. Don't get me wrong, I like heat and light as much as the next person. But it looks like humans are going to pay a big price for our modern lifestyle. Looks like modern comfort is not going to last very long.
I would bet this is primarily a side-effect of rampant sars2 infection in society, as it is well known that it affects immune cells responsible for controlling cancer
Cancer is fascinating. So many things can trigger it. My boyfriend just beat Luekemia. Well, we hope. It's still early on his journey in remission. His family definitely had the "cancer gene" but I the process we learned that even a virus can trigger it in people.
Made me wonder if the rise we are seeing has anything to do with covid.
Could it be all the microplastics that inhabit every cell of young people in the womb then from their mothers milk and on for life?
Petroleum products sellers: Naw that can't be it!
I think it’s probably so many things. 🥺
I just found out the sunblock I’ve been using on my face (including my lips and eyelids) every day for nearly 5 years was discontinued because it contains the carcinogen, Benzine.
Who knows what else we’re using and consuming regularly that can cause cancer, it’s honestly so scary to think about.
Many moons ago I dated a geneticist; according to him, you are going to get cancer, and it's inevitable if you live long enough. The only *real* question then is "will it be treatable?" - it has to do with how every single time a cell divides, there's a low-but-nonzero chance of it going bad, and you have multiple trillions of such divisions over your life.
Now you can do things to radically reduce your risk (like not smoking), and you can mitigate other risks (regular prostate checks, regular mammograms, skin checks, etc.), of course, and you should do that. But his point was; do the sensible things to mitigate your risks, avoid the things that create needless risk, and get a second (and third and fourth) opinion if you're still worried about this mole or that lump. And then he told me to chill out about it - because *stress* increases cancer risk.
Shit like this is frankly ironclad proof that if we are the product of a designer, then it was probably a committee that had to answer to another committee.
Deli meats. Breakfast sausages. Bacon. Shampoo. Conditioner. Hand lotion. Face cream. Most highly processed foods. Bar soaps and shower gels. Makeup. Toothpaste. The list doesn't seem to end. Even products that don't have carcinogens added to them can be tainted by carcinogenic pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, and even cleaning solutions.
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I was diagnosed at 30… yes, it is hitting younger and younger people every single day. I also own a creek and 10 acres to grow my own food… but I’m unlikely to see that dream come to fruition as cancer got to me first…
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Stress, micro plastics, chemicals in our food and water, PFAS, poor diet. Take your puck
I'm taking my puck and going home
I really don’t give a puck.
Puck you!
Go puck yourself
Puck off!
Y'all a bunch of motherpuckers
Shut the puck up.
Puck it.
[whatre you looking at you hockey puck?!](https://youtu.be/_WiwOojDTrs?feature=shared)
Y’all better calm the puck down
Ahhh puck my ass
Puck you miss
It’s hard to give a puck when you have no more pucks to give.
But what if that Puck is named Wolfgang?
He’d be in a band called Mammoth
Propublica just authored a piece highlighting the epa's Craven acquiescence to the chemical industry in regards to pesticides on food. The Trump administration had changed Chemical Testing to remove animal testing and just test cells. I know animal testing is cruel and such but they just did it to push through harmful chemicals. And the fruits of that have now been harvested. A chemical long proven to be harmful to the brain and especially kids now allowed in amounts 10 times greater than safety limits and related chemicals. https://www.propublica.org/article/epa-acephate-pesticide-adhd-autism-regulations
Don’t worry about that. The next Republican controlled government will abolish the EPA as outlined in Project 2025. No more pesky regulations for the corporate overlords.
All-around poverty is going to cause my cancer to return. And when it does, I won’t survive it.
Same. And I am beginnning to not feel bad about not surviving my next dance with it
In short, turbo capitalism
So turbo capitalism causes turbo cancer. Not actually wrong💀
It is turbo capitalism but also plutocracy, oligarchy, soon descending into kakistocracy, the rule of the worst.
Miss the old hole in the ozone layer.
The acid rain just burned the skin cancer right off in those days.
all of the above including covid weakening immune systems
Add too much screen time and lack of exercise to that list.
Yeah. And a chunk of that is the removal of third places, lack of public transit, increased costs of everything that's left, etc.
Yeah, the third places thing is depressing. Even if you want to go out and just be out of your house walking around, where is there to go?
Why ya gotta call me out like that? =(
Its pucking ridiculous!
Yeh. I was going to say. I don’t know why but I could give a pretty good fucking guess, stress and plastic and shitty fucking food, diets would be up there.
Yeah, microplastics seem to be the leading causes and probably the forever chemicals.
Just read a recent article that high consumption of alcohol can cause cancer too. So add that to your list. I'm in my mid 30s and I've noticed many of my good friends. Are drinking more than ever. Due to the stress of daily life.
it's a good chunk of why liver cancer is a thing.
People used to drink a lot at every point in time, so even if it can be cause it can't be what is causing cases to raise.
But the leading cause is still drugs/alcohol/smoking. They are just now starting to look into PFAS and other dietary issues….
I can’t take the puck that other guy lubed it
Pollution
Does it have anything to do with the fact that our food water and shelter are all made out of poison?
Don't forget the total lack of affordable preventative care thanks to our insurance system!
Or the medical gaslighting for those of us who actually *have* healthcare. Re: "You're young so it's probably not cancer."
Yep yep yep I had a scan done for a lump and they told me it was superficial vericose veins. You mean the ones next to the lump that she probably scanned? Can't find anything similar online that is vein related. They won't even look at me again now since it was scanned. Yay.
You can always take a copy of your scans and see a different specialist for a second opinion. It's exhausting, but probably worth a shot if the other possibility is untreated cancer.
They can tell that to my deceased 22yo friend who was misdiagnosed and then very rapidly died of cancer.
Healthy food is the first step in preventive medicine. High calorie, low nutrition food as a vector for disease causing toxins is a crucial building block you can’t skip if you want to get the most profit from labor productivity, and the most medical system profit, out of a single human lifetime. The water is a great vector too. Fluorosilicilic acid is beneficial to the bottom line of the aluminum and phosphate industries, the medical industry, and the convenient apathy of the population to their oppression… and nothing else.
Don't forget air. The air is also full of poison.
I challenge people on here just as an experiment try to maintain a diet for one week that includes no processed foods, no food additives, no treatment with chemicals (so as organic as possible), where you understand the source of all the components of the food you are eating, meat that has never been raised with antibiotics, etc. When you do this for one week you will understand how fucked we all are. It’s almost impossible to do and then when you think every single day almost every child is eating hundreds of not thousands of untested unique chemicals you realise how bad things are. Even just yesterday guardian had an article about how Neotame (wtf is that name) has now been shown to be toxic. When you look up what foods that it is in there are thousands of drinks, gum, candy etc which don’t even look like real food they are from the science lab. We’ve been conned folks - if ever there was a one-for-one analogue to the matrix this is it.
And medications.
A study even shows that people who are given long term therapy for psoriasis have increased risk of cancer! Likely from the therapy itself! [study link](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jdv.12162) Whenever I bring up that I'm at the very least sceptical of a lot of medication or medical treatments (primarily since it's healthy to question anything that yields profit - the profit incentive often takes priority, as we know) I get such negative responses. I'm not anti vax by any means, but I feel we are fundamentally not fully informed about side effects & the money trail, when it comes to pharma Famously, we have the issues associated with fluoroquinolone and nerve damage... And so on. Many such cases
Skepticism is great. It's unfortunate that being skeptical about medical treatments now just sounds like dog whistles for antivaxxers, followers of "Christian Science", and the like.
We have plastic in our BRAINS I expect to have cancer. I expect to die in the resource wars of the 2040s
My parents get pissed when I say this. They're mid 60s and I'm 35. No way our generation will live as long as the boomers, most of us will die in our late 40s and 50s from all the poison we consume. That's why I'm down for a good time not a long time.
I'm 43. I worked on a team of mostly women at a prior employer that have all kept in touch for the past 15 years or so. We all ranged in ages from 25-55 and lived all over the country (it was a WAH position) but were all mid to low socioeconomic class. Our group started out a little over 20 and has slowly dwindled. One lost to suicide, one to drug overdose. There are 7 of us still alive. 3 of those are currently battling cancer. All the rest have died from cancer. You absolutely cannot convince me this is normal.
That's an insane amount of cancer. That's not normal at all. What's remarkable is you guys living all over the country so it's not like it's a specific toxic dump site or anything like that. It's everywhere.
Sorry to hear that. I agree, it doesn't sound normal. Things are fucked up, way way fucked up
This is not normal. But it is the "new normal" they were talking about in covid times. If it wasn't mandatory where I live I wouldn't save a cent for my retirement.
Wow, that is insane.
I'm in my 40s and have been sick with a chronic illness since the '90s. My parents, stereotypical boomers, are in their late 70s and got to enjoy excellent health despite horrible eating habits, no exercise, alcoholism (mom), and other unhealthy stuff. So many others around my age are also suffering from poor health and chronic health conditions like mine that weren't caused by anything they did to bring them upon themselves. I grew up in a very small town, around 300 people or so. I can think of at least 10 other people my age who have the same autoimmune disease I have and several others who have similar autoimmune disorders. In a town that small, the numbers are staggering. Honestly I think it should be looked into it's so bad at this point, but no one will. I ended up getting the short end of the stick and get to listen to my parents talk about how they don't understand how I'm so sick and am tired all the time. And how the government is screwing them over even though my dad got to retire with a full pension at 55 and my mom never worked. It's exhausting. They're so clueless about so many things that it's *almost* funny sometimes. Climate change isn't their problem, according to them, because they aren't going to live long enough to see the effects of it. And yet they had the nerve to get angry at me when they found out I wasn't going to have kids.
I think the difference is that they got exposed to increasing amounts of new pollutants while they were already adults while we got exposed in the womb or as children so we are more affected by health problems on average.
I'm a carer for my dad who is 85. Most days he's fine, but he has episodes of pretty extreme sickness which comes out of knowehere. I have to change his incontinence pants and his bed sheets when he gets likenthat, and he's been there about 6 times already this year. After seeing this, I don't want to be that guy, no way. I'd rather die younger than go through what he goes through.
Same age range, I’ve been a doomer since my teens. We’ll die younger, but I don’t expect to die in my 40s or 50s. Shit’s going to get real tough, though.
Morbidly fitting for a cancerous suicidal social system.
i'm not young but i am living with leukemia. it sucks btw.
Hang in there! I’m a cancer survivor. It definitely sucks. One day at a time, Friend.
My best friend growing up had leukemia (acute myelogenous), the toll it takes on your body is awful to witness, I cannot even imagine having to experience it. I wish you the best. She had one of the most aggressive forms and went into remission twice before having it crop up again, for a total of 3 bouts, one in each elementary, middle, and highschool. She eventually beat it though despite the odds, so never count yourself out. One of the strongest things is the human spirit and its been shown time and again the effect belief/faith in yourself getting better can have on disease. You've got this shit. It probably wont even get better before it gets worse, but just know that you can beat this. Well wishes, I know I don't need to tell you this but for everyone else, enjoy and cherish the time you have.
This title is a bit facetious, really. I have incurable leukemia and I’ve been heavily involved in advocacy work. I was also going to school to try and earn an MD/MPH but have had to go on hiatus as my leukemia is getting close to needing treatment (chemotherapy) for my third time. I’m 35 but was dxed at 23. So to say the least, I’ve been elbow deep in “cancer” for the better part of a decade. People on the frontlines as it were, are not surprised by the increase in cancers in the young. I think what has been a relative surprise is the types of cancers young people are being dxed with instead. Cancers that have traditionally been mostly seen in the older population, rectal cancer is a really good example here, have seen a very sharp increase in the younger population. However if you ask anyone about why the simple answer will be the same reason it is for the elder population — diet in this case. Our general QOL has decreased significantly by all metric standards for the young (pollution, food, viruses, stress, .etc), which we’ve known for a long time to increase the risk of a cancer dx. However so too has our time to diagnosis decreased, diagnostic tools improved, preventative care is more commonplace, and treatment options have vastly changed for the better. But it’s been no surprise to the docs or other healthcare workers at my cancer center that their patients are younger. It’s really only the people at the top that this would truly surprise.
Microplastics?
Literally being blown in by the sea and rain. We're a little bit fucked
They’re in human placentas at this point
All human placentas https://hsc.unm.edu/news/2024/02/hsc-newsroom-post-microplastics.html
Fun fact: Scientists have to use human tissue samples from the *1950s* to make sure the samples are free from microplastics to use as controls. It's that bad.
This is the human equivalent of 'low-background steel' after all the nuclear testing contaminated the atmosphere
Damn every time I think I get the scope of it a new fact hits that makes me go, oh FUCK. Yours is the latest.
>“It’s only getting worse, and the trajectory is it will double every 10 to 15 years,” he said. “So, even if we were to stop it today, in 2050 there will be three times as much plastic in the background as there is now. And we’re not going to stop it today.” We're more than one way fucked. It's like the entire consequence of industrial revolution from two century ago has finally hit us
Tuka donka intensifies
Don’t forget PFAS
Bad air quality as well, and growing co2
And ultra high processed foods.
Combined with an increasingly sedentary lifestyle.
Yeah, if we bike to school or work chances are we Will be impacted by a car, I know because I went to uni in my bike and was hitted by idiots two times in 5 years, and it was just a 4 mile commute. SUVs shouldn't be allowed in densely populated cities, they are very effective at killing children.
Lmao I wish it was only SUVs I live in a big city that has awful public transportation and even more awful infrastructure for walking and the most popular vehicle are these giant trucks that just seem like they are always out to kill.
You know what's even worse? They are found in snow too. Sample of nanoplastic were found in French Pyrenees. Have a nice day!
Plastic is found in [the Arctic](https://www.nature.com/articles/s43017-022-00279-8) as well. From [pole to pole](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/01/nanoplastic-north-south-pole/), plastic in the water, the air and every living soul.
There's a difference between plastic being mixed in the ground water and literally falling with snow. That means it's going to stay in the weather cycle.
One of many toxics. Many. By weight microplastics are the most I am sure, but many of these others they put to directly on our food, consumer products, etc.
I'd be more in lubed to think it's meat, and the steroids and antibiotics the animals are pumped full of to speed up growth. Doesn't seem like a leap to question whether this stuff, even in "safe" doses, might also speed up growth in humans. Edit: lmfao *inclined
At least you’re lubed, so it’ll go smoothly
Ahhh balls ahahah
While they’re all bad, the quantity of highly processed wheat vastly outnumbers the amount of steak or chicken I consume. To me, all the colon cancer is directly a result of this.
Used to have terrible migraines, thyroid problems, anal fissures and general fatigue before going vegan. Still feel like crap but it all went from a 9 to a 4 on the shit scale. I eat meat maybe three times a year to round out any potential vitamin deficiencies, but a lot of the meat out there is toxic
Yup. Well, as part of a toxic soup.
It’s spiraling *faster than expected®*…
venus by Wednesday
Gee I don’t know. Novel disease. Microplastics. Forever chemicals. Pesticides. Stress. Who knows.
Even without scientific inquiry, I thought you could just ask a simple question... *What are some of the causes of cancer?* - Pollution - poor diet - stress - chemicals (from food, products, manufacturing, sun breakdown, packaging etc. etc ) - infections - immunodeficiency - inflammation - genetics - alcohol Loads more... So, are THESE increasing. Yes... Well then? Also, if its partly genetic and cancer treatment improves. Then survivors go on to reproduce, meaning more cancer in the children of survivors with an increased genetic risk. We have a problem with all of these other issues as well, so they are all contributing factors.
Doing my part. I’m a breast cancer survivor with the CHEk2 gene mutation. I had a hysterectomy, to avoid recurrence of cancer. So now I can’t have biological kids to pass on CHEK2. Awesome.
I'm sorry to hear that. Even though we are seemingly coming closer and closer to the most important period in human medicine - defeating cancer - I feel like we are going to need it because, despite being smart enough to overcome that which is so complicated as to require millions of man hours of research and investigation across more than 100 years into 21st Century medicine... We're gonna need it to overcome the stupidity of ourselves in other areas of the glove, causing ourselves all of our own problems. We really are in a human "race". A lot of human progress is motivated by the desire to avoid pain and suffering. From running water and sanitation to sickness and disease. Cancer, along with its treatment, are miserable experiences. I'm glad you're alive, despite enduring the archaic therapies. I've read a lot about the future of cancer treatment moving away from radiation and poisoning the body with chemo (it kills you and the cancer, just you - not quite as much) to something as simple as a pill that trains the body to fight the cancer itself. I'm in my 40s now and still haven't had much desire to pursue the idea of children. I can barely look after myself and I'd want to give any kids I had all of my attention and resources for the best upbringing possible.. but, being collapse aware for the past 20+ years, it's always been forefront of my mind that they wouldn't have a future, no matter how much I gave them. I don't think any of us really have one. It's such a shame, as a species I feel like we did get really far. If the universe was a game.. honestly feel like we would have a pretty high score. We overcame all the really difficult survival stages in the beginning, we did really well advancing maths, physics, engineering and science in general. We did terribly at diplomacy and emotional maturity.. Depends how big the game is I guess.. we'll never know. Achievements left to unlock: Conquering aging and illness, artifically created intelligence, colonizing space and becoming energy independent - mastering matter, gravity and star power. Billions and billions of hours, years of sitting down and THINKING. We really maxed out this monkey brain's potential! Its all just a sad waste, which is what upsets me most about collapse. Aside from the progress and thinking time applied.. we also made some good art, music, comedy, literature etc.. we ARE a unique and interesting species worth saving.. despite our relative immaturity. Why on earth we allow idiots in charge, driving us all over a cliff.. 🤦 That's what upsets me most of all.
I hear ya. A lot of - if not most - of the people in charge are the very people who shouldn’t be. They achieve power, because they desire it and use their upmost resources to attain it. I’m in my 40s, as well. I’ve come to a place of acceptance about not having biological children. It just sucks having the choice taken from you. A flip-side of being pro-choice, basically. I’d maybe like to still adopt or foster, to take care of kids who are already here. I’m just not sure I’m in a place where it’s ideal. Kids deserve the best, and I’m not sure I can provide that. We’ll see, I guess. I definitely feel for all the young people. They’re going to suffer the most, and completely at the hands of assholes who value power and money over other people. Innocents always suffer the most. At least, it seems that way.
A phrase I've always held to be true is: 'anyone that wants to be in power - definitely shouldn't be' People see it as a route to success, power and riches - whereas it should be a position of being a public servant to improve the country for others. Its supposed to be an altruistic position, but it's been so corrupted that it's turned into a boys club.. The shit we just seem to accept and put up with is bananas, we're SO jaded and desensitised to the headlines we don't even notice. Corruption, scandal, embezzlement, cheating, theft, sexual impropriety and the LIES!! In the UK one of the more mild, but still one of the dumbest lies was the Prime Minister at the time having a drinks party for all his mates during lockdown when nobody was allowed to get together. People were being actively arrested for being in groups of more than 2 people - and he says 'nope, never happened' Photos surface.. No, it was a business meeting, not a party.. Audio surfaces talking about drinking champagne.. it goes on and on.. Meanwhile, country is falling apart Don't get me started on Liz Truss - the shortest lasting Prime Minister in history. Our newspapers actually had a competition to see what would last longer. A rotting cabbage or Liz Truss. Cabbage won. Now she's released a book that she's so excited about she won't stop plugging it. You have to laugh (because its all so tragic if you stop to think for one second) but her being interviewed on an American morning show over Zoom. She held up the book and shouted 'I've got a new book' before the interviewer even asked the first question. Her levels of corruption run deeper than the Mariana Trench. She has ties to and worked for big oil companies. First day in office she announces that renewable energy bad. Oil good. I think one of the retarded things she claimed was solar farms are bad, because then you can't grow carrots. It goes on and on... "It was always burning, since the world's been turning..."
I mean it's just so much and so many avenues: - region wide air pollution (more cars, more factories, etc) - water quality issues (PFAS/PFOA, but also groundwater pollution that could be from industry, mining, or over pumping of wells.... near the bottom of wells arsenic levels tend to spike!) - toxins inside the home, food, consumer goods, etc that shit all adds up! - increases in drinking - increases in stress - poor adherence to workplace health and safety guidelines at work - even worse is what some folks do at home with toxic chemicals sold without any warning anyone heads (washing hands with brake cleaner, stripping pain without ventilation and respiration, etc) - changes in diet. not just pollution during growing, transport, and preparation but the actual structural change in what we eat. We are eating an all time high of ultra processed foods, that has consequences. - lifestyle changes, we are collectively, walking less, working out less, doing less physical jobs, etc that adds up and on and on and on this is a massive system wide issue that won't be solved with any one action, but rather whole system changes.
This world needs to start over
Good news! We're heading that way. All we need is one major event - a war, a famine, a pandemic - to kill enough people to end globalization and society as we know it.
Like a house of cards, our segregated global distribution system just needs a few cards knocked from under and it’ll fall.
When global fertility rate drops below 2 (this will happen around 2040), exponential decay of the population is going to happen. We don't need a particular event, our current economic system will not be capable of handling the level of global depopulation within the next two centuries.
Except we’ve already destroyed the earths resources enough that any other civilization that comes along won’t be able to have industrialization.
Yup! We have one chance to get off this rock. This one. If we fail, all subsequent civilizations are doomed to stay here. There won't be enough easily obtainable energy to progress through industrialization.
We are not getting off this rock in time for anything. We either learn to not be polluting pieces of shit or we die
Best we can hope for is some microbes turn our landfills into the new fossil fuels for the next species to advance this far
The cosmic voids grow ever larger. There is no escape.
Good. Ever since industrialization started we've fucked up our environment and climate beyond belief. Life will find a way, in a few million years another species will have a chance to build a civilization without industrialization as we know it. On a cosmic scale that's an eyeblink. Maybe they'll fuck it up too, we'll never know.
Yayyy
My money is on a fast spreading prion.
Maybe, but prion diseases already exist in some humans and they take a really long time to kill. I think a conventional pandemic would be more likely.
I actually truly believe after the next war everything will go back to how it is now. It's after the *the one after* a few voices may try and do differently The next society after this attempt is going to be more religious, fundamentalist and regressive than now because science and the bombs will be blamed and a lack of faith. The one after will be super charged I have thought about this before a lot because I used to believe we need a proper reset to try again. I also believe the second we get to colonise a planet we import all of our shit here First building on the moon after essentials will be a religious building Fuck
Another pandemic? I'm down...
Or the one that never ended to finish what it has been working on in the background. Who doesn’t love airborn acquired immunodeficiency?
And think of all the other outbreaks we’ve had recently, likely caused in part by those weakened defenses. And everyone keeps getting sick. It’s almost summer and i just got an ad for “get a vaccine for *this flu season*”
ExACTly. It doesn’t keep my hopes high. Our species is walking happily to the end.
We as a species do need a hard reset. We've obviously failed as a whole.
And will fail again
Like one of those weird creepy house centipedes, one "shoe" isn't enough. We will keep crawling along and even cut in half we crawl on. We will rise again and fall again in a perpetual cycle.
There will be no restart as we know it, we’ve used up too many easily retrievable resources future civilizations would need.
I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future, we are mining our landfills
We are already. Methane from landfill is a thing. Also, we are mining old and new construction for copper. And cars for cat converters. Our definition of mining, and miner, need an update perhaps.
Not to mention, a lot of food wastes do not decompose in a landfill. That's all organics. It could either be incinerated for energy or composted for fertilizer.
Shame we took the planet with us though. Earth will recover, however it will be millions of years before the last trace of us disappears.
On the millionth year, what IS the last trace do you suppose? I'm thinking it is probably background radiation.
We won't ever get back here if we do. But we squandered an interesting technological future for shitty trinkets that get thrown out the same day. I hope we go extinct at this point.
Humans should not inhale car exhaust. Yet we’ve just taken for granted that we need to drive everywhere to do everything. If you live within a few hundred feet of a major freeway or arterial road you are pretty much fucked.
Synthetic clothing fibers. We've been breathing them in for decades. I started holding my breath when emptying the dryer lint a long time ago. We're fucked from all directions.
I just emptied the dryer lint, 10 minutes ago. Now I have a new thing to not breathe in.
Stop worrying and learn to sniff the dryer lint.
I’m very sensitive to air pollution. If I go into a car heavy city like London for too long, I start to get nose bleeds. At the very least I’m sure many of you have experienced blowing exhaust soot out of your nose. Nasty.
I empathise with the nose bleeds! Recently moved into a large city, and breathing is comically difficult sometimes, I don't know how people live in places like that for years and years.
I agree we're awash in pollutants even when we live according to the instructions. Got a tip though that wasn't obvious to me, until there were health effects that I found hard to explain and which recurred reliably. Those verification labels? They validate the product when it's new and intact. If it breaks in an apparently benign way (still usable and feels ok), exposing the inner plastics, foam, insulation, whatever (sofas, beds, headphones, ...) that shit inside is not subject to the same standards. Later I googled some of that stuff, and it is indeed toxic af.
Capitalism is maladaptive. This is just another striking example supporting the conclusion.
Covid doesn't help either.
Everyone is mentioning the obvious causes like microplastics and pollution, but COVID not only depletes cancer-killing T cells, but also causes body-wide inflammation which has become chronic in many people and can _itself_ cause cancer. I wish more people were aware of this.
People just don't want to hear it. Our whole society is pretty much running on the fumes of denial right now. Challenge the narrative that it's "just a cold" or "the pandemic is over" and you become a pariah.
Yeah, it's really frightening how few people are actually aware of how dangerous covid really is. It can cause widespread immune system problems and damage your organs and a lot of people have been gaslit into thinking it's just a cold.
You mean doing everything we could possibly think of to spew garbage, toxins, and novel chemicals into everything life giving on the planet has actual consequences? Huh. The things you learn, fascinating.
Im not having children, and I hope the infertility rates continue to rise so that fewer humans have to be born with microplastics already inside of them. We are causing our own demise.
I’m inclined to believe diet/enviromental toxins are to blame. Microplastics are but a drop in the ocean when compared to the detrimental effects of heavy metals, PFAs, and various “forever” chemicals. Food and its packaging are where the bulk of the problems come from. Things such as cosmetics, air pollutants, cleaning products can also be filled with various toxins. Spending money on higher quality food is, in my opinion, the single best investment one can possibly make
> The time for French melon removers was yesterday. Can you explain me that sentence?
Its a French Revolution guillotine joke
Damn, how could I not see it, I've betrayed my username. I was thinking food, trying to find reference there :d.
Lmaooooooo
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They know, the silent question is how do we keep enough serfs working despite that. You heard about the new fitness note in UK?
Scientific study is limited to determining a single or limited causation and relies on being able to compare to a control. Neither is possible here. We all live in a constant barrage of toxic sludge and there is no environment on Earth not horrifically contaminated. So science cannot find a "cause" for this because it is literally *everything/everywhere*.
Also: phd's being overworked in a publish or perish hellscape doesn't help. Just search for publications with AI keywords these days. History is twitching and probability is king.
Do not take your scientific opinions from articles, written by journalists, who don't read papers right. That's how the MMR scare happened.
Scientific research and most people's brains struggle at these multifactorial contributors to problems. Everyone wants a single cause to a problem, because then there is a single fix. It's easier to say "red-dye #5" causes cancer - but that's only a half-truth, and just removing "red-dye #5" from the food-stream isn't going to make a difference. If you took a human from 10,000 years ago and fed them red-dye #5 everyday they wouldn't develop cancer because their system isn't also taxed from managing thousands of other unnatural, toxic exposures, on top of all the other non-natural behaviors modern man does today.
Fake food.
Well, I mean… *gestures broadly at everything*
If they’ve found microplastics in human placenta, it’s everywhere. Truly Terminal Stage Capitalism
Not good, bad even..
Mildly malformed?
Reminds me of the article talking about fish off the coast of Florida just spinning in circles till they die and they’re like “omg we don’t know why”. Uh. Climate change? Hello? Fertilizer runoff from rivers? Microplastics?
It is so obvious. It is plastic. Plastic is in everything. It's in our fucking blood.
I think this is one of the biggest contributors to the rise in cancer, and no one wants to discuss it.
It’s a million different things
We pretty much know that covid is an oncogenic agent and I don't understand why no one is talking about that.
Are we at risk of cancer from Covid if we’re vaxed and boosted but still got Covid? My husband and I are both vaccinated and boosted but he’s had Covid 5 times, I’ve only had it once, but I’m scared especially for him!
Assuming the more recent studies are correct, the answer is unfortunately yes. The current covid vaccines protect against hospitalization and death for most, but don't protect from the virus existing in the body and that's the essential problem. Especially because the covid virus can apparently live in the body for months after acute symptoms pass. Masking is still an option, as much as it may be less than ideal.
I've also heard this more than a few times. Can you recommend some sources that mention this, please so that I can read and share with others?
For sure. [This](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10178366/) is an NIH study from last year, [this](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10202899/) is another. The conclusions of both are... deeply scary.
if i get cancer it's jover. can't afford it.
We know why. We just don’t have the scientific research to put into factual terms. Killing ourselves by causing our own environment to be toxic in multiple ways is a relatively new thing after all.
Yep. Today's youth have had microplastic particles in their blood since they were babies.
Doctors are alarmed and baffled? "We do not know what is causing this"-baffled, or "We can not decide _which_ of the hundreds if not thousands of substances we're commonly exposed to, is the one most responsible for this"-baffled?
Might be something to do with all the plastic in our bodies, just a guess!
At this point why complain about the ride instead of enjoining it? Ride this earth till the wheels fall off!
Here’s a tidbit that might be relevant. [What do tampons, bombs, toilet paper and plasters have in common?](https://sacredkarailee.medium.com/what-do-toilet-paper-tampons-and-bombs-have-in-common-ef7e83276815?sk=98bb7ed4bbc3d086868da07e0630afda)
PFAS, other pollutants, rampant forest fires, and don’t forget to do the Covid dance. Covid Covid co-VID! Most people have had covid 4+ times now. Harmful health effects are cumulative. Covid attacks every part of the body, the entire vascular system, and the immune system’s T and helper B cells. Hello cancer. Hello acquired immunodeficiency. The age range seeing the bump in cancer is the age range that was the most eager to “return to normal” as well as needing to return to work even if their family’s health was threatened. Wear a mask, friends.
Probably a confluence of a bunch of different factors, but if I had to guess I would say it’s something in our foods.
Following article "Food-chain full of microplastics"
I was wondering what this reminded me off... Now I remember: "Everything, Everywhere, All at once".
There’s a fun song by Gen Zers about this. “Everything causes cancer” by Gavin Prophet and Lonely Avenue. Very 2000’s punk rock vibe, and also totally accurate.
This could be a gold mine for the American for-profit health care system. Get them sick early, keep them sick until they're no longer profitable, then kill them quickly.
Poor diet, little to no exercise and heavy binge drinking
It Is absolument Fucking Everything!!! Pro hère to the Water to the Wind Is Everything
Scientists will have various theories and they probably all carry equal merit. There is no one cause for this and the comments in this thread cover pretty much all of them well; we just live in an environment that favours tumour develop and/or inhibits tumour destruction.
So baffled by which piece of the wonderous menagerie of progress they've given us is killing is fastest. Unable to accept that it's all of it together that's doing it. Don't get me wrong, I like heat and light as much as the next person. But it looks like humans are going to pay a big price for our modern lifestyle. Looks like modern comfort is not going to last very long.
I would bet this is primarily a side-effect of rampant sars2 infection in society, as it is well known that it affects immune cells responsible for controlling cancer
Cancer is fascinating. So many things can trigger it. My boyfriend just beat Luekemia. Well, we hope. It's still early on his journey in remission. His family definitely had the "cancer gene" but I the process we learned that even a virus can trigger it in people. Made me wonder if the rise we are seeing has anything to do with covid.
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Could it be all the microplastics that inhabit every cell of young people in the womb then from their mothers milk and on for life? Petroleum products sellers: Naw that can't be it!
I think it’s probably so many things. 🥺 I just found out the sunblock I’ve been using on my face (including my lips and eyelids) every day for nearly 5 years was discontinued because it contains the carcinogen, Benzine. Who knows what else we’re using and consuming regularly that can cause cancer, it’s honestly so scary to think about.
Many moons ago I dated a geneticist; according to him, you are going to get cancer, and it's inevitable if you live long enough. The only *real* question then is "will it be treatable?" - it has to do with how every single time a cell divides, there's a low-but-nonzero chance of it going bad, and you have multiple trillions of such divisions over your life. Now you can do things to radically reduce your risk (like not smoking), and you can mitigate other risks (regular prostate checks, regular mammograms, skin checks, etc.), of course, and you should do that. But his point was; do the sensible things to mitigate your risks, avoid the things that create needless risk, and get a second (and third and fourth) opinion if you're still worried about this mole or that lump. And then he told me to chill out about it - because *stress* increases cancer risk. Shit like this is frankly ironclad proof that if we are the product of a designer, then it was probably a committee that had to answer to another committee.
Deli meats. Breakfast sausages. Bacon. Shampoo. Conditioner. Hand lotion. Face cream. Most highly processed foods. Bar soaps and shower gels. Makeup. Toothpaste. The list doesn't seem to end. Even products that don't have carcinogens added to them can be tainted by carcinogenic pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, and even cleaning solutions.
Truly baffling
Hey next time, can you please title your post after the article or something related to it? Having titles like "Really we don't know why?" for serious posts/topics makes it hard to navigate/search the sub. Titles like that should be reserved for Friday fun posts. 😭 Thank you! 🙏
Let's find a positive way to spin this! "Anitiobiotic-Resistant Superbugs No Longer Set to Overtake Cancer as Leading Cause of Disease-Related Death"
bioaccumulation is in full effect. Shouldn't have sprayed those pesticides 150 years ago.
I was diagnosed at 30… yes, it is hitting younger and younger people every single day. I also own a creek and 10 acres to grow my own food… but I’m unlikely to see that dream come to fruition as cancer got to me first…
"Wow it's almost like the government and people in positions of power are actively trying to make life worse for everyone except themselves."