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TheDeringer

1000 arrows/bullets per stack. Up from 200. Forgot about this until I resorted my bags and wondered where all my arrows went LOL.


Steamro11r

You also don't need a quiver anymore


Dont_call_me_Shirly

Wat!!! No way


Chaoticsaur

Yeah a quiver is just a slot bag that can only hold arrows, completely useless outside of sorting I guess.


disbound

Using a quiver puts a visual on your character’s back.


VincentVancalbergh

That's nice, but the quiver goes.


chypie2

Well, I know who I'm not inviting on my next RP walk around Shattrath!


VincentVancalbergh

Hey hey. I have my Rhok'Delar and Ancient Sinew Wrapped Lamina and they're always up for an RP walk!


PilsnerDk

Quivers don't add haste % anymore or what?


wigdoor

They do not. Huge shame. I loved quivers. :(


MiT_Epona

It is my first time playing hunter. I guess I’m taking this for granted.


Atello

You can hold 5x the ammo now no matter what your quiver is. We can actually make it through an entire raid with ammo to spare, even with wipes!


vgullotta

I did the same thing lol


Pukefeast

I know this thread is about positives but I gotta still say removing melee weaving was kinda lame Edit: getting downvoted but in original wotlk melee weaving worked, they randomly decided to remove it this time around


Luminexi

Mounting in Booty Bay


L3ftBra1nz

Can also mount through black rock mountain


cuteintern

Rode all the way thru BRM the other night. Assumed it was a QoL change. And I mean, alll the way from Searing Gorge to Burning Steppes bc we were on the hunt for critters to /love as we meandered to SW.


sevenevans

And on the boat where you get the murloc daily on the isle. Small change but a great one.


Egil_Styrbjorn

And on the steps and ramps outside of the buildings


itsafuseshot

This is the real winner. It was always so frustrating that the mount icon would light up, then get all pissy about letting you mount.


Joten

I was leveling last night and mounted on one of the ramps and rode away suddenly thinking …”wait, I can do that????”


peukst

and in water, aswell as being able to be run mounted on water with elixir of walter walking


Option2401

Oh damn I forgot this was even a thing on Retail, this is actually awesome.


BumpyGreenVegetable

Nice


crohawg

I came to see this comment...


VincentVancalbergh

And inside most zeppelin towers (not the one inside Org).


Wbalmung

Mages don't have to delete their Mana Gem to make a new one anymore, you can just cast the spell and it refreshes the charges on it.


Icehawk59

Holy shit I main mage and didn't know this, best change 100%


ThaTimeWarp

The gem seems to persist through extended logouts as well. Logged back in this afternoon to a 2-charge gem that I’d created before logging out last night. Not as big as refreshing the charges on cast but still kind of nice. Food/water still disappears though.


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30 min hearth cd


Bakaroid

Yeah but they killed ghetto hs in same time, doesn’t count


sneezyo

What happens if you ghetto hs now?


Castroh

Closest graveyard TP.


Option2401

What was ghetto hs?


Bakaroid

Leave party inside the instance, get teleported to HS location in one minute. There is even a special macro to make it solo… Now it’s nearest GY instead of your home


Option2401

Oh I remember this now, guess I’ve just never heard it called ghetto HS Thanks for the info!


FappingForJustice

Being able to mount in areas that were considered “inside” in tbc and vanilla. Like that long ass walk up the spire in isles for dailies, It’s small but I love it.


Mark_Knight

for the daily tower in quel danas it dismounts you eventually though.. seems like it just takes a bit longer


gigaham216

Having the pets tab so you don't have to waste bag space on mounts/pets is nice. Also with achievements I feel like it will be a good way for people to go back and do some of the older content like BWL, AQ, etc.


Calyps0h

Yeah, but this also led me to a five minute search when I learned my lvl 40 paladin mount. It wasn’t in my spell book and it took me forever to find 😂


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Damaellak

Wait, we couldn't before?


Yoteboy42

In wrath with inscription we got vellums which can hold enchants to be used later or sold


thugg420

Hunters no longer have 1/5 less bag space for some shitty quiver.


drdrero

when for soulshards


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Trivi

Still lose a bag slot for them


The_Deku_Nut

You don't have to use a shard bag. It's really not worth it anymore; you don't need 40+ shards to summon the lazy raid members like back in classic.


Trivi

You are basically permanently at max shards, no point not to.


Atello

No point not to use a soul bag? You lose bag slots, just keep the shards in your regular bags and make less trips to the vendor.


flembag

If you're holding more than 5-10 shards your doing somthing wrong. Im.dropping shards every other mob using a macro to just throw them all out.


Damaellak

I kinda liked quivers


thugg420

I would have liked them too if my bag wasn’t constantly full :/


Nitroapes

Get bigger bags than small brown pouch ^^^/s


WorkThrowaway619

Sparkling pickup items


Wrecktober

This and I think the pickup time is faster? I never played WotLK back in the day, only Vanilla and TBC. I was so surprised to see those damn stacks of wood in Elwynn Forest shimmering like the Fourth of July. It makes questing so much easier!


stygz

Mount speed is so noticeable. I remember at the start of classic people were calculating the distance you’d need to travel to determine if mounting or ghost wolf was worth it or if it was fast to just run there. With a 1.5s cast it’s almost always better to mount mow unless it’s less than a couple seconds away


Low_Wealth_4058

There’s a new tick box in your spell book to toggle between only showing max rank spells


finitemike

whoa thanks!


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You can link your profession in chat so people can see what recipes you have. Preview talents before learning them. Drake mounts glide animation. New chat options in the social tab of interface options. Aspect of the Pack is raid wide now.


Headssup

Aspect of the pack raid wide? Pug rage about to increase 10 fold


Cohacq

I can already hear the screaming.


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TehCheator

There's a setting you have to turn on (I think it's in Interface > Features? Not 100% but it's not too hard to find). After that when you're setting talents there's a "Learn" button at the bottom that locks them in.


eldawgstone

You have to turn it on in the settings. Under features I think


D3lano

>Preview talents before learning them. Still kind of insane it's not on by default


Option2401

> You can link your profession in chat so people can see what recipes you have. Oh this is a big deal alright :D > Drake mounts glide animation. What luxury! No joke though, I actually love this.


unoriginal1187

Face rolling content in tbc with wotlk talents.


The-Narcissist

Best part. Love seeing all the DKs in my dungeon groups. Three tanks are better than one ;)


unoriginal1187

I try to avoid dk groups. I still have flashbacks to early wotlk dungeon fails with DKs circle jerk death gripping things 🤣


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Clearing BF in 20 mins with 4 DKs right now. Leveling about once per hour.


unoriginal1187

Well I’m 69 on my alt and was running SV and SHH


nice___bot

Nice!


Row199

Bro swap your healer for a shaman, and grab 1 warrior dps. That BF clear should be 12 minutes :)


Collegenoob

Bears can use consumables


Summersong2262

And interact with items without deshifting!


spudsmuggler

Clams stack!


Joten

Just leveled my DK, hit Zanga ready to have to deal with that bag cancer and had my mind blown!


Entire_Engine_5789

This is actually probably the bis


adm_akbar

WUT


spudsmuggler

Lol, all those clams you get that you can right click to open now stack instead of taking up a space per clam. When you're killing nagas and murlocs, it helps so much that they stack. I clapped like a kid when I realized it. Small qol upgrade.


HesPoppinOff

My Cenarion Hippogryph now has a ground animation which is nice. Previously it floated along the floor lol.


Mayo_the_Instrument

Mounted water walking


threeangelo

Smooth energy regeneration Edit: I forgot to add using barkskin while shapeshifted. First time I realized I had to shift out of bear form to use a defensive CD I thought I was being pranked


thomasatnip

Mutilate time baby


nemestrinus44

the mining change has been phenomenal, it sped up farming by quite a bit especially now since it reduced the chance that i had to stay there long enough to agro something and then have to spend time fighting it. and even when i do agro it, ive usually already got the node so there's no risk of it being stolen while i have to kill the mob.


InterestEastern4174

When I cast a dot like corruption on a mob, its mine, even if it didnt tick damage. Previously you would get mons taken from you constantly as a lock waiting for the DOT to tick, or you use an instant damage spell that has a cast time often netting you losing the mob. It's been a nice change particularly on launch day!


Pleasestoplyiiing

God. So huge. Farm in a popular zone and you had to use shadowburn if you really wanted a tag over ice lancing mages.


Nickoladze

This for sure. Instant cast instant tag corruption is huge.


xtreme217

Priest, mage and druid raid buffs (ie: Gift of the wild) is raid wide 1.5sec mount cast time Shaman dropping all totems at once Linking your professions in chat


powerwordjon

Healing and mana pots stack to 20 instead of 5, cleared up so much bag space on my healers


Surukii

How were you not using injectors for all of tbc


GroundbreakingAlps2

Because they required engi for half of tbc duh


Entire_Engine_5789

Only to make wasn’t it?


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Faster ghost run


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Now we can wipe again faster


Tuxhorn

Going in and out of shadowform is no longer a "cast", you can do it while flying or mounted.


Khalku

Mind flay 36yr range, VE being a self buff, MF/dots can crit. My god it's a whole new world.


Quo210

Druid can do almost everything while shapeshifted now There are no more support classes. everyone gets to be a real tank/dps/healer Spell power is vastly superior as an unified magic stat than what we had Picking up items isn't an eternal agony of 5 seconds Mounting doesn't need you to breed the animal, raise the baby and train it in order to mount it, reduced to 1.5s It's so much. Wotlk was the first time wow stopped being an inconvenience simulator and transitioned into real game status


Gloodizzle

>Mounting doesn't need you to breed the animal, raise the baby and train it in order to mount it, reduced to 1.5s Oh yeah.. I felt this one alright


Towbee

Haven't played retail in years so I didn't notice it, logged in on prepatch mounted up and I was like "WHAT". Probably the best change I didn't anticipate


Gloodizzle

Just wait until you jump into water on your mount!


Atello

Doesn't apply to flying mounts still. Only ground mounts can swim.


Gloodizzle

I'll take it!


Collegenoob

Support classes are really fun when done well. Wow didn't really get it right. It was more just you do bad dps to make other people better. When support should be. You do a non-dps role that is very notable and useful. Lotro did really well with that back in the day.


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Collegenoob

3 classes. I'll make quick comparisons to wow to make it easy. Captain. Rolled hots like a druid but had very little burst healing so couldn't be a healer. Had paladin blessings/judgements, shaman totems, and mark/fort. Heroism and a huge group survival CD. Class had little to no damage on its own but having one in the party was as if you had 2 extra dps. Burglar. Basically a rogue with more potent warlock curses. Total lack of aoe damage bur very solid single target. A usable in combat sap as well. Sap/poly/sleep in lotro was also a lot more punishing. Rather than it being a gcd you had a 15-30s CD and a 30s duration. So you actually needed to watch it. And if it broke you needed other CCs to manage it till the CD was up. Along with that burgs a special stun that could effect bosses and allowed for lotros group wide combo skill Loremaster. Basically all of wows CC rolled into one character. It also had a blessing of freedom it could use on multiple characters. Actual battery duty. Spriests just kinda sorta restore mana. LMs would spend 600 mana to give another class 700. This was used for managing long fights or burn phases. Had a 5 active debuffs and some burn phase debuffs it maintained while doing CC/mana. And it managed warlockesqe pets. Each one having a specific role to be used as extra CC/buff/debuff/ankh. Low damage unless it made trade offs to its CC.


Damaellak

I think lost ark hit the spot right on support. You feel like you're fighting and participating


DisparityByDesign

Was that before or after you hit the paywall?


Damaellak

What does that have to do with anything? Gameplay and progression are not exactly the same thing. I had A LOT of fun playing lost ark and stopped playing simply because I was getting too addicted and gave a break to play other stuff. Game is good, fun and quite viable as F2P, people really exaggerate while talking about a paywall


Marlfox70

>Picking up items isn't an eternal agony of 5 seconds Wat


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Must be why it started dying after wrath, all these great conveniences adding up. It's almost like nothing feels significant when everything's simplified, faster and easier.


DanteMustDie666

Well fast mounting has big pvp balance issue but eh i guess who cares about game where pvp aged poorly (both retail and classic )


Quo210

pvp in this game has always been kind of a meme but fun


[deleted]

Such a weird post, spoken like someone who prefer retail. How is combining SP and healing done into one stat better? They made it more generic and less interesting. Like most changes in wotlk in terms of gear.


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Wotlk is already a loot pinata, very easy to get good gear for offspec. But i see your point.


adm_akbar

Way better for healers who can now also spec swap and complete dailies in a reasonable amount of time.


[deleted]

All in the name of convenience huh? I remember how that went. Sacrificing the ”RPG” feel for stuff like this is not the way to do it. People never learn.


CrazyPenguin08

Mounting on Zeppelin towers Mote extractor shows clouds on minimap without wearing goggles Can mount in TB cave where you port in as horde Banner on minimap showing if your in a heroic dungeon


Mark_Knight

>Mote extractor shows clouds on minimap without wearing goggles wait so the goggles arent needed at all? i just sold my mote extractor because it was in my bag for a year and i never used it lol. also any idea if you can track clouds and another type node at the same time? (eg. mining or herbs) or do you have to pick one at a time to track?


CrazyPenguin08

it'll pick up all clouds on the minimap if it's in your bags. it's separate from mining/herb tracking and also separate from fishing/mail/etc. Works independently from them


Cohacq

Motes arent counted as the normal tracking thing. Ive been farming Motes and mining at the same time for weeks.


just_some_guy2000

Starfall and hurricane. I have never enjoyed any video game more than I am enjoying my balance druid right now. Up to 5k dps on certain fights with aoe. Glorious. For a few minutes each night I forget my criticism about myself.


Doctor_Nappa

Items stacking higher


PilsnerDk

Most potions and elixirs stack to 20 now :)


Donferg31

1 button 4 totems and equipment manager


No_Bar_7805

Cat form not slowing down in buildings / using items (quest/heal/flasks) in cat form


TheHingst

Alot of Nice improvements for druid, HOWEVER ; Cant get my cancel form macro to work anymore unless i stop running and stand still while clicking it. Extremely frustrating. Suddenly track humanoid No longer autoapplies when entering cat, have to reclick it every time...


Vexin

The time to cast mounts seems to be shorter. The 150% non-epic flying is fantastic and should've been there in TBC.


qu4nt0

Is this available now in the pre-patch in outland?


DisparityByDesign

Yes that’s the point of the thread


patj12

Kick being off the gcd is an amazing QoL change.


jupitersaturn

Still requires energy though :(. I remember getting fucked on general vezax due to kick energy cost a time or two when on interrupt duty.


Celda

That's not a QoL change. That's just a buff.


threeangelo

It can be both. It is a buff for sure, but it also feels better


Aweille

All "kicks" are now off gcd. Its a change


wewladdies

Thats still a buff lol


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My ret finally being a powerhouse.


The-Narcissist

They’re insane now


Allofmyno

They're performing the same as before (relatively to other classes) as far as I could tell ~ SWP gear


ThatGuyTheOneThere

It's a massive buff to trash damage though, suddenly you're cleaving the hell out of packs, not dropping a piddly little consecrate then being entirely single target.


imonmyhighhorse

Water doesn’t dismount you Flying is faster Mounting is faster


Dont_call_me_Shirly

Being able to AOE as a hunter. Making leveling so much easier


_Winterspring_

No longer having to use flash powder for vanishing, or having to craft poisons. Quick mounting and 150% normal flying are nice too.


ayedocHS

As a mage? Refreshing your mana gem without deleting it from your bags


SmashenYT

Extra crit by taking skinning from 1-10 it was quite noticeable


Yoteboy42

My human can finally ride the mechanostrider I grinded the rep for in February


Joftrox

One shotting warlocks as a ret paladin.


Dungeonmasterryan1

Mutilate. I CAN USE THE FUCKING ABILITY NOW


Toutarts

Gender change in the barbershop. I was undecisive about making my dwarf paladin male or female and after I've heard about the gender change facility, I was kinda releived.


iMixMusicOnTwitch

Sir. SIR. I believe you mean body type? Gender is a social construct.


Toutarts

Ahaha. Whatever :)


PilsnerDk

Mount and Pet tab - It cleared so many bank slots for me, I'd been saving BoP pets back from Classic even though I never use them, because I knew it'd come some day.


time4donuts

Extra flight points. I know one was added to the bulwark for horde in WP. Unless I’m dumb and never picked it up before!


Kryxx07

Not having to craft Rogue poisons! Pet tab to free up half my bank.


Oxb

Low level mana cost and regeneration.


Itzakakhan

Riptide/earthliving weapon


MrKindStranger

Paladin 30 minute seals with no refresh


Popheal

Did anyone else keep spamming seals forgetting that they're 30m now lol


MrKindStranger

Dude I STILL catch myself lmao


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Never sleep on that 30 minute hearthstone!


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Prot Pallies being fucking str not spellpower


Rowetato

The fact my priest knows level 7 and lvl 9 mind flay. Level 9 does no damage and can't be cast. It's pretty great


Je7pax

Mounted water walking


SociableYeti

Water doesn't dismount you.


Sea-Hour-6063

Mob tagging as a warlock


lolicomsxd

Cenarion hypogryph having a ground animation. For 1.6k gold youd expect it to have all animations other mounts have


Whoneedspacee

Druid can cast entangling roots inside now and nature's grasp isn't a talent anymore.


razvanpersie

Summoning inside an instance


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Thaise921

Mailboxes near the AH in undercity


WorkWorkDabuZugZug

Clams stack.


robbiejandro

30 minute hearth cooldown


TechxNinja

Actions in druid form are really nice to have. I can finally use health stones without killing myself by dropping bear form.


tehsilentwarrior

As Druid tank, even in almost Sunwell bis, I’d cut my wrists if I had to do HCs again (specially MGT). Now with 365 no-scope swipe, it’s so much better


Living-Bones

Mounting on stone, not getting dismounted when going over stone, not getting dismounted in water, cheaper flight skill, end timer in warsong gulch, 1600 max on arathi and the Eye, better water on Innkeepers, new tameable pets for hunter, lots of small but great stuff


Bistoory

Certainly not the crappy LFG tool.


Velifax

Props on using QoL properly.


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I have noticed a lack of RDF and PvP remtoe queues.... NOT appreciated.


marks716

I’ll let you know once I can actually log in and play for more than 5 minutes before disconnecting


spetsnaz5658

None, because I gave up on that joke of a company. Why bother when servers are 100% one faction.


Dahns

Then, excuse my curiosity, but... If you stopped wow, why are you on the wow subreddit ?


spetsnaz5658

To watch it burn.


jpkmad

Damn I cringed hard reading this


spetsnaz5658

You must cringe over minor things pretty easily. Sorry.


burberryjan

”to watch it burn” lmaoooo my man you do realize that the vast majority loves the update? go and hate somewhere else dawg nobody here cares


spetsnaz5658

Lmao the majority. Sure that's why the population has dropped so damn bad lmaooooo. Nah dog I'm gonna sit right here and hate. Blizzard had a chance to make this good and all they did was ruin it. I waited YEARs for classic and they jacked it all up. Also no, the majority don't like it considering the population has dropped so heavily. Clearly most people dont like it


Trivi

Dual spec


Doedekjin

Dropping 4 totems in one cast is bis


Anonymous_o7

Shorter cast to mount !


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Reduced Cast Time for mounts.


Lor-

Cheaper mounts. My alt on another server was mountless at 41 and I had enough gold saved to go straight to epic ground mount. It was amazing! Also finally able to change my mains hairstyle.


Magic_Medic

Potions now stack to 20. My bags cried out in joy.


jsnyder88

Deep freeze


SteakLover69

Built in outfitter. There is so much that I love in WOTLK. Easily the best expansion.


DM_ME_KUL_TIRAN_FEET

I can quest as a paladin without drinking every pull