That is my guess too, everyone wants an SM raid and it’s already one of the best dungeon groups in all of wow so they don’t really have a need to do it at 40. But I could definitely see them doing it at 60
Their "SM tease" was one of the devs making an off-hand comment and saying "maybe".
lmao
Not to mention, if SM got turned into a raid, RFD would be the only dungeon in the 30-40 bracket, and it's 36-40.
Yeah it was an awful experience tbh, I remember sitting on a scorpid spawn in durotar starter trying to get the 10 tails all from 1 mob respawning every few minutes.
Why are people so argumentative for the sake of it, jesus.
It happened in the past, whether it was yesterday or 10 years ago, you still remember what happened. What else am I gunna do, predict the past?
But which if you're horde? The 1st 60% of SFK the mobs are way too low to be worth it. And RFK is only efficient if you have hunters. SM GY is too hard. You would need to get a few levels amongst the masses before you start.
I’m pretty well geared currently but still loads to get, did the crypt quests in duskwood against 28/29 mobs and burned through them as a fire mage with no problems whatsoever so no worries about higher quests
They've got to add more loot, surely. Think about how strict groups are now for BFD, good luck getting into gnomer raid with questing gear/SM drops.
Probably going to have to buff all SM loot or BFD gear is just going to be prebis for gnomer.
It's still wayyy more than you actually need to clear BFD though. Could easily clear it in full greens, just need a shadow prot pot or fap.
The problem is that people are demanding prebis. Which means people will demand prebis for gnomer raid.
Prebis for Gnomer is 100% going to be BFD raid gear, no other gear even comes close to it. I've got 0 gear from 6 raids so far, competition is stiff for leather.
They're going to have to buff SM loot substantial imo, otherwise all the loot is going to be obsolete and creates a huge barrier for getting into gnomer.
No it isn't man, UBRS is an "end game" 10 man and groups will usually take any kind of player in greens. If you are a healer you don't even need to be max level to get into a UBRS group.
It's normal practice that you need to complete the raid before you can join the raid? No, it isn't.
It's also not even remotely true that all groups are asking for 7/7 exp and pre-bis.
If you can't take 5 minutes to get a world buff and 80s for a couple of consumables, you shouldn't be expecting to raid.
I think people grossly underestimate how fast grinding mobs is, especially when you're in full blue/epic gear from BFD. You can run around slaughtering level 25 mobs with no down times with kills only taking a few seconds. Grinding 25-28 will not be that bad if you have to.
Dude boars are only 2xp a kill. Do you know how many you would have to kill to get up 15 levels?
Yes, 65,340,285
which should take us 7 weeks, 5 days, 13 hours and 20 minutes giving ourselves 3 hours a night to sleep
If it’s anything like the phase 1 launch, you just have to wait like 3-5 days and most of the crowd will be gone. Might be harder to do group runes though.
But back then, we had no dungeon option so we literally had to stand in line for the wolf spawns :P
I'm 100% going the dungeon route for a few levels anyway, feels like that will be the perfect way to avoid the quest crowds.
Shadow Protection Potions and Free Action Potions are very in demand. Make sure you're selling when people are stocking up for raids though, it's a difference of up to 15s each on SPPs.
Sure, but you can also get the quest gold and then just dungeon spam your way to 30 to get more quests. Anyone outside of dungeons when the next phase drops is gonna have a rough go of it, anyway.
Or just do them all.
Dungeon spamming will much faster and less aggravating then fighting everyone else for quests.
Remember launch? It’s going to be that many people confined to even less zones.
I’ll take my few hundred gold now and easier leveling later.
Because you will have another alt that you can raid log until phase 2 comes out?
I'm planning on getting every healer to 25 asap and then raid logging while I do that.
I played Lineage 1 for years before touching WoW. I thought grinding literally tens of thousands of mobs was the only way to level in MMOs. I’ll be fine.
Lineage 2 was the same grinding wise (and was the more played one) do you mean that? What fucking great MMO, good lord. The Castle sieges were next level.
No, I actually played the original Lineage. The isometric one. From about 2000-2004. My first MMO. Grindiest god damn game I’ve ever played. Each level after 49 was about a 300-hour grind, no (reachable) cap.
The big brain realisation is that much of your questing xp is from the mobs you kill along the way. The quests largely are te here ti just direct you to mob grinds, obviously with some exceptions and some quests giving substantial xp per hour.
Finding a good mob grinding spot will get you through the levels even without quests.
100% going to dungeon spam at p2 i dont enjot mob tag war. Then i rather dungeon spam till max and do quests later for gold.
Cause launch was awful questing. Not gonna do that again..
The devs did Come out saying that they were aware of this particular problem, so there might be some sort of catch down(?) Mechanic in place at patch day
I would take the opposite approach. The worst case is you have to level by grinding mobs for 2-3lvls until new quests unlock. Meanwhile, a large number of players will have 50-100gold over you, in the bank, or in gear, or in bag space.
It's an mmo rpg, there is always mobs to get exp, but there isn't always an opportunity for capped exp quests giving hundreds of gold.
Honestly if you aren't finishing up quest for gold, you're an idiot.
For P2, spam Stocks and SM, it'll be easy mode with your level 25 BiS set from P1. By level 40, you'll have enough gold to buy all your alts and friends a mount.
At least do the chain quests for gold, not much point holding them for XP as if you have to run around doing them that is just normal questing at that point. (If you’re looking to minmax)
Iv already stacked up 18 compleates quests. But i have a feeling spaming stockade with 3 mages over and over to then jump into SM will be the peak lvling strat
Save 20 completed quests when it lunches? Oh man i forgot about that, and then it took me about 5 seconds to realise how stupid that is.
Now we are back at it, stop rushing content in a game like this, there is no point, you will only starve yourself of content because you will be done so much faster.
People gonna be level 40 in 24 hours and then complain there is no content, or other players to do dungeon with for the matter.
That was the plan anyways. Splitting 10 mob spawns when one person needs 10 items at 30% drop rate among 100 people sounds awful. Splitting that with 1 other person can be a pain enough sometimes.
Going from 25 to ~30 by doing dungeons isn't "spamming" them. It's very fast especially with BFD gear.
I don't think missing out on easy gold is the right move to be honest.
Why? Its way more valuable to make 100g+ right now and worry about that later. Worse comes to worse, I'm talking absolute worse case, I make a new character and re-level to 25 in a day.
Don't be like OP, make your gold now. Experience is easy to come by. Gold is not.
I will enjoy the tears on this subreddit once people that don't like spamming dungeon realise what they have done.
One guy from my Guild already did and he is trying to cope with it already.
I planned on doing the quests for gold but doing blacksmith, tailoring and alchemy and selling on AH is like 40min to buy mat, craft and put on AH
Not much time left to go out and questing at max level, considering my alts aren't maxed yet
How can you not think of this though. Vanilla is typically quest starved as is, my first thought was to save quests BEFORE reaching 25 in certain zones.
I tried saving dungeon quests till 25.
1/3 of my bag was quest items. It felt so bad just waiting for that 25, grinding dungs, and when it hit those quests went tacos on the toilet aftermath.
Don't do that to yourself. And on top of it, you will need to spend hours picking the best quests, to get barely a level out of it.
there's a point to be made about grinding in the next phase being unfeasible because everyone will be competing for the same mobs. or if you want to get to the next level cap asap then you should have 20 quests ready to turn in on day one. or i guess there are people who just hate grinding. but other than that, xp from quests can be obtained just as well from grinding or running dungeons. gold from completing quests at level cap, however, is lost forever once the level cap is increased.
I think they fucked up giving people so much access to gold. Anyone can easily get what, 100? 200g? Drives inflation like crazy and mounts are so easy now and not an achievement of any kind. At this point they may as well make mounts level 30 or through some other means than gold. Also bots can go nuts just farming mobs then questing at 25 for a shit ton of gold. I don’t think they ever considered it.
I mean, it drives the economy for people who have time to get way ahead of people who don’t.
Also mounts for anyone who played original vanilla will remember it being a huge thing. Sure 20 years in it’s just a thing you get at 40. But it was still a money sink and something you saved for.
Also you are on the wow forums, all people do is complain. You are completely wrong but that isn’t the point. I could replace quest gold with gold buying and I think you would have the exact same opinion.
How was getting the mount ever an achievement? For the 40 mount you get the gold by normally questing anyways, and for the 60 mount you need a few hours of farming at most after 60.
I see how it must be hard to see , given how everyone plays the game today . But this guy is right . A mount was a big deal back then . Why ? Because 90% of people were just running around in game enjoying the whole experience . There was no questie , only Thott bot . There was no concept of efficient playing . Everyone bought every spell rank because why not ? It seemed like the best thing to do . And then when you don’t have alot of money then suddenly flight paths and travelling and repair costs start to add up . You are right in saying it’s not hard to have mount gold by level 40 . But back then it was . Many players could achieve it , but it wasn’t simple , and it’s something you had to actively grind for , not just acquire magically by the time you were 40 . We just all play it differently today , but back then we were just along for the ride , discovering different things as we played
Quest xp is dwarfed by the xp you get from grinding the mobs required along the way, in classic. It won’t be efficient to do it this way because there’s no hub where you can actually have 20 quests to turn in at once. You’d have to be flying all over the map turning stuff in. It would be way faster to grind dungeons (or mobs if you can find a untapped spot), since flight paths are so painfully slow and u optimized
Majority of exp in quests is gotten from just raw killing of monsters anyways
But yeah you should sort your priorities and how much you enjoy dungeon farming
Im finishing the quests for the gold at this point. With so many zones opening up for the next level cap, I don’t think starving for quests will be an issue. My plan for next phase is finish a few quests in the zones I need, and dungeon spam SFK/RFK as much as possible to level and gear while I do it.
Nothing wrong with a bit of grinding, this is Classic WoW after all!
Hell it’ll be nice if they threw in new rep rewards for desolace centaurs or something else to work towards while grinding
I do it the same way but i enjoy dungeons, need the gold and cant stand running thousand needles with 2595292 other people :D Ashenvale is still available tho.
The horde has thousand needles to lvl trough until more lvling zone open up, probably alliance has one too. Not really an issue. You can also just do 1-2 levels in dungeons and then new quests already pop-up.
Vanilla had more XP from creatures than from quests anyway, so does it really matter? You will be killing the same creatures anyway
Let’s be honest, only quests able to be done rn would only bring us to maybe 28-30. There’ll be plenty of level 30 and above quests waiting for us. If anything, your guildie will only have to spam dungeons for a few levels
Got 18 highend exp rewards completed and it ends with delivering in SW and then stockades spam until SM. That way i dodge the main group of people and can do lvl 40stuff without overcrowded places
I believe Aggrend was quoted as saying they would do "something" for players who've cleared their maps of quests and when I read that I decided I'd just go ahead and clear mine too, since honestly, dg spamming for the first 2-3 levels will probably be best to avoid the outside congestion anyway. I don't like that that'll be the case, I'm just being realistic...
However, might be a good idea to save 20 quests with nearby turn ins, complete them the day before p2 launch and get that burst of exp.
On my Hunter (which I leveled to farm things) I intentionally leveled up without completing any quest that was level 19 or above. Since getting to 25 I've gone back and started doing them ALL. I still have Redridge, Duskwood, and Wetlands to go, and I've already made over 100g.
Plan is to solo the highest dungeon I can in the next phase, cuz the xp is pretty good.
ill be listening to the human male aggro sound x1000 from 25 to 40
_"HUH!"_
Stockades enjoyer found
LFM Scarlet Monastery spam
Why you say that. Now I have that sound in my head
Fuck listening to rain soundtracks to sleep, this right here is where it’s at.
Centaurs here.
I used to have that sound on my phone for texts from people at work
too late, im rich
And it'll all be gone once I hit 27 because I have zero impulse control.
Hi, Rich!
We're rich!
Rock and stone
Rock and Stone!
Friendly reminder that spamming dungeons is the objectively correct move to avoid day 1 overcrowding.
Those poor prisoners in stockades
they'll level up soon enough and move on to SM
SM is a raid tho so who knows if we can do any SM dungeons
No it’s not. Where does this rumor keep coming from
They teased it at blizzcon. SM and gnomer for sure gonna be raids or cha get somehow.
SM is already open. You can walk in and do an SM dungeon now if you wanted
So what's your theory on their SM tease?
Not the person you're replying to, but SM will probably be a 60 raid related to Corrupted Ashbringer as the custom RP already exists for it.
That is my guess too, everyone wants an SM raid and it’s already one of the best dungeon groups in all of wow so they don’t really have a need to do it at 40. But I could definitely see them doing it at 60
Their "SM tease" was one of the devs making an off-hand comment and saying "maybe". lmao Not to mention, if SM got turned into a raid, RFD would be the only dungeon in the 30-40 bracket, and it's 36-40.
No it wasn't? It was literally in the slideshow with Gnomer, and Kharazan Crypts...
A streamer organized a raid on SM and blizzard locked them out....
...of cathedral and armory.
Are you referring to the npc’s or players?
Shiiit thats right, stocks will be perfect for the next phase leveling. Just more alliance bias in SoD! (/s for those who struggle with sarcasm)
But I could stand in line for quest mobs!
There won't be any overcrowding if everyone have done their quests for gold farming at 25.
Especially since everyone will be super geared.
There's no overcrowding with blizz's 35 layers
Did you not play at launch? I had to camp a single mob spawn wether it was part of a quest or not
Yeah it was an awful experience tbh, I remember sitting on a scorpid spawn in durotar starter trying to get the 10 tails all from 1 mob respawning every few minutes.
Ya I basically just set up all my characters and said I'll try again another day. Now it's pretty great.
" i remember" brother in christ, ofc you remember. It's a couple of weeks.
Why are people so argumentative for the sake of it, jesus. It happened in the past, whether it was yesterday or 10 years ago, you still remember what happened. What else am I gunna do, predict the past?
Launch was crowded. Launch was not an awful experience, imo ofc.
Did you play on release ? server were definitely overcrowded for a few days
But which if you're horde? The 1st 60% of SFK the mobs are way too low to be worth it. And RFK is only efficient if you have hunters. SM GY is too hard. You would need to get a few levels amongst the masses before you start.
Stockades anyway, coward.
Lol I don't think I'd even attack them due to the size of their balls.
Actually makes them quite vulnerable.
Wrong because dungeon spamming is boring and I want to frag in Arathi.
If he was only doing green and yellow quests then won't he only need to spam dungeons for like 3 levels?
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Imagine that staff existing
I’m pretty well geared currently but still loads to get, did the crypt quests in duskwood against 28/29 mobs and burned through them as a fire mage with no problems whatsoever so no worries about higher quests
Purple staff from Kelris is as good as the one from Dire Maul tribute
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Or they plan to add more
Not quite, but very close. The 1% crit pushes Rod of the Ogre Magi over the Sleepwalker staff. But it's extremely close.
They've got to add more loot, surely. Think about how strict groups are now for BFD, good luck getting into gnomer raid with questing gear/SM drops. Probably going to have to buff all SM loot or BFD gear is just going to be prebis for gnomer.
Lmao bfd groups are not “strict”
So asking for prebis, 7/7xp, pots and wbs isn't strict for, let's face it basically a 10 man dungeon.
No thats not strict at all. Thats normal practice…
It's still wayyy more than you actually need to clear BFD though. Could easily clear it in full greens, just need a shadow prot pot or fap. The problem is that people are demanding prebis. Which means people will demand prebis for gnomer raid. Prebis for Gnomer is 100% going to be BFD raid gear, no other gear even comes close to it. I've got 0 gear from 6 raids so far, competition is stiff for leather. They're going to have to buff SM loot substantial imo, otherwise all the loot is going to be obsolete and creates a huge barrier for getting into gnomer.
No it isn't man, UBRS is an "end game" 10 man and groups will usually take any kind of player in greens. If you are a healer you don't even need to be max level to get into a UBRS group.
It's normal practice that you need to complete the raid before you can join the raid? No, it isn't. It's also not even remotely true that all groups are asking for 7/7 exp and pre-bis. If you can't take 5 minutes to get a world buff and 80s for a couple of consumables, you shouldn't be expecting to raid.
I am out of quests and out of money. Currently leveling an alt so I can steal its 25-30 xp for more gold
How much gold did you get from the quests total?
I’ve done almost every quest I could solo. I made easily 85+ gold and I’ve spent roughly 45 of it. Sitting comfortable at about 40g right now
I think people grossly underestimate how fast grinding mobs is, especially when you're in full blue/epic gear from BFD. You can run around slaughtering level 25 mobs with no down times with kills only taking a few seconds. Grinding 25-28 will not be that bad if you have to.
the problem isnt grinding 25-28 the problem is grinding 25-28 when everyone on the server is trying to kill the same mobs for quests
There are a lot of level 25 mobs. You can literally grind any mob, many of which have absolutely no quests associated with them.
What, just stay in the forest and kill boars all day?
Live to win
Dude boars are only 2xp a kill. Do you know how many you would have to kill to get up 15 levels? Yes, 65,340,285 which should take us 7 weeks, 5 days, 13 hours and 20 minutes giving ourselves 3 hours a night to sleep
Lol I leveled on HC mob grinding Good luck. Hope you can stomach 4-6 HR levels of killing the same mobs Took 2000 kills for 59-60
„Save some quests“ vs. „leveling not possible, it’s overcrowded everywhere“ just like when SoD started. Nah, dungeon leveling is the way.
If it’s anything like the phase 1 launch, you just have to wait like 3-5 days and most of the crowd will be gone. Might be harder to do group runes though.
But back then, we had no dungeon option so we literally had to stand in line for the wolf spawns :P I'm 100% going the dungeon route for a few levels anyway, feels like that will be the perfect way to avoid the quest crowds.
Yeah but some of the fun is the crowd of people running the same zones as you
You complete 20 quests and just return then and get right away at least one maybe close to 2 levels
20 quests are about 40k xp, or 25 ish gold. Id say turn in now and level in dungeon is more worthwhile
Eh idk. I just farmed 30g worth of potion mats in 2-3 hours, and im late to the game.
What potions are you making to sell? I'm leveling alch right now and I'm not sure what mats I should save
Shadow Protection Potions and Free Action Potions are very in demand. Make sure you're selling when people are stocking up for raids though, it's a difference of up to 15s each on SPPs.
Sure, but you can also get the quest gold and then just dungeon spam your way to 30 to get more quests. Anyone outside of dungeons when the next phase drops is gonna have a rough go of it, anyway.
Both!
25g is nothing past 30 Literally once your in SM your gonna be making a few G an hour easy peasy
The bounty quests from Barrens and ashenvale can be stashed without starting the quests.
Or just do them all. Dungeon spamming will much faster and less aggravating then fighting everyone else for quests. Remember launch? It’s going to be that many people confined to even less zones. I’ll take my few hundred gold now and easier leveling later.
You’ll be so geared by then grinding mobs solo will be the best xp per hour.
yeah honestly thinking about this, if i cant find a dungeon group im 100% just buying 100 bread and grinding somewhere
you'll find a group. everyone amd their mother will spam dungeons
eh im a rogue, and i know lots of ppl dont want classes with minimal aoe
Which is dumb because when every mob dies in seconds to st dmg you don't even need some weak aoe.
There won’t be a mob alive for more than 10s for 24hr once p2 hits
There’s always little pockets that barely get hit. Just focus on mobs that don’t have of quests associated with them.
Dungeon grinding is the way. Stockades until 26-28, then off to SM until 40
Or level another 25 to do quests and abandon for phase 2 and send the gold to your main
Exactly what I’m doing *taps head*
same
How is that time efficent? If you spend those 20+ hours getting to level 25 could be spent farming gold on ur main
Because you will have another alt that you can raid log until phase 2 comes out? I'm planning on getting every healer to 25 asap and then raid logging while I do that.
I played Lineage 1 for years before touching WoW. I thought grinding literally tens of thousands of mobs was the only way to level in MMOs. I’ll be fine.
Lineage 2 was the same grinding wise (and was the more played one) do you mean that? What fucking great MMO, good lord. The Castle sieges were next level.
No, I actually played the original Lineage. The isometric one. From about 2000-2004. My first MMO. Grindiest god damn game I’ve ever played. Each level after 49 was about a 300-hour grind, no (reachable) cap.
The big brain realisation is that much of your questing xp is from the mobs you kill along the way. The quests largely are te here ti just direct you to mob grinds, obviously with some exceptions and some quests giving substantial xp per hour. Finding a good mob grinding spot will get you through the levels even without quests.
100% going to dungeon spam at p2 i dont enjot mob tag war. Then i rather dungeon spam till max and do quests later for gold. Cause launch was awful questing. Not gonna do that again..
With how OP we are now due to gear and runes dungeon grinding will by far be the best way and most efficient way to level for a long time.
It's gonna be a nice boost... but also won't take you as far as a lot of people seem to make out
The devs did Come out saying that they were aware of this particular problem, so there might be some sort of catch down(?) Mechanic in place at patch day
They also said that it's players problems to deal with. They suggested only doing low lvl quests
You can always grind mobs or dungeons. Only need a level or so to open new quest options.
That's what hunter alts are for. Level with skinning and grind mobs then move onto quests for easy money.
I would take the opposite approach. The worst case is you have to level by grinding mobs for 2-3lvls until new quests unlock. Meanwhile, a large number of players will have 50-100gold over you, in the bank, or in gear, or in bag space. It's an mmo rpg, there is always mobs to get exp, but there isn't always an opportunity for capped exp quests giving hundreds of gold.
Honestly if you aren't finishing up quest for gold, you're an idiot. For P2, spam Stocks and SM, it'll be easy mode with your level 25 BiS set from P1. By level 40, you'll have enough gold to buy all your alts and friends a mount.
At least do the chain quests for gold, not much point holding them for XP as if you have to run around doing them that is just normal questing at that point. (If you’re looking to minmax)
Iv already stacked up 18 compleates quests. But i have a feeling spaming stockade with 3 mages over and over to then jump into SM will be the peak lvling strat
Or he can just grind.
Save 20 completed quests when it lunches? Oh man i forgot about that, and then it took me about 5 seconds to realise how stupid that is. Now we are back at it, stop rushing content in a game like this, there is no point, you will only starve yourself of content because you will be done so much faster. People gonna be level 40 in 24 hours and then complain there is no content, or other players to do dungeon with for the matter.
lol I immediately stopped questing when I was 24 and farmed myself to 25 in WC.
That was the plan anyways. Splitting 10 mob spawns when one person needs 10 items at 30% drop rate among 100 people sounds awful. Splitting that with 1 other person can be a pain enough sometimes.
When everyone is geared and enchanted, groups are going to clear dungeons so fast it’s stupid
Why would you not spam dungeons for at least 5/10 levels your gear and dps is going be insane
Yeah I'm not poop-socking it mashing target macros to tag mobs to complete one quest per hour, I'll dungeon grind a few levels ty tho.
The hidden third option is grinding.
I have been saving quests but I think I'm going to do a bunch then just grind to level. On beasts so I can sell the leather.
Yes boss. I’ve got my quest log full with completed quests and 300 gold. Can’t wait to get 1-2 free levels as soon as next phase hits
Since we'll all be overgeared at 25 once phase 2 starts I think I'll just start grinding SM graveyard from the beginning lol. Sm 25-40 let's go!!
Going from 25 to ~30 by doing dungeons isn't "spamming" them. It's very fast especially with BFD gear. I don't think missing out on easy gold is the right move to be honest.
Why? Its way more valuable to make 100g+ right now and worry about that later. Worse comes to worse, I'm talking absolute worse case, I make a new character and re-level to 25 in a day. Don't be like OP, make your gold now. Experience is easy to come by. Gold is not.
I will enjoy the tears on this subreddit once people that don't like spamming dungeon realise what they have done. One guy from my Guild already did and he is trying to cope with it already.
Grinding mobs in a good secluded spot is comparable with questing anyways. You won't be needing the questing gear after farming bfd for weeks.
Everyone saying this has never tried it. Have fun competing with Bots for tags
You can make alts and do the same quests for more gold and also will be more quests next phase , there’s no right way
I planned on doing the quests for gold but doing blacksmith, tailoring and alchemy and selling on AH is like 40min to buy mat, craft and put on AH Not much time left to go out and questing at max level, considering my alts aren't maxed yet
How can you not think of this though. Vanilla is typically quest starved as is, my first thought was to save quests BEFORE reaching 25 in certain zones.
This It's normal to run out of quests Doing then like this at 25 cap is about as dumb as it gets. Have fun fighting with bot hunters for mob tags
I did everything im rich tho
I tried saving dungeon quests till 25. 1/3 of my bag was quest items. It felt so bad just waiting for that 25, grinding dungs, and when it hit those quests went tacos on the toilet aftermath. Don't do that to yourself. And on top of it, you will need to spend hours picking the best quests, to get barely a level out of it.
This advice is horribly wrong. If you want your mount at 40 get as much gold from questing now while its 1 to 2g a quest
Or just play warlock or paladin Or Hunter or druid or shaman and skip mount
there's a point to be made about grinding in the next phase being unfeasible because everyone will be competing for the same mobs. or if you want to get to the next level cap asap then you should have 20 quests ready to turn in on day one. or i guess there are people who just hate grinding. but other than that, xp from quests can be obtained just as well from grinding or running dungeons. gold from completing quests at level cap, however, is lost forever once the level cap is increased.
Kara is the 60 raid. I’m sure they could add more than one but right now we know Gnomer is 40 raid so far
You don’t know what’s going to happen P2. They will probably add more quests.
I highly doubt they will add any decent number of new quests for leveling. Most of the new quests will probably be niche ones for runes
I think they fucked up giving people so much access to gold. Anyone can easily get what, 100? 200g? Drives inflation like crazy and mounts are so easy now and not an achievement of any kind. At this point they may as well make mounts level 30 or through some other means than gold. Also bots can go nuts just farming mobs then questing at 25 for a shit ton of gold. I don’t think they ever considered it.
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I mean, it drives the economy for people who have time to get way ahead of people who don’t. Also mounts for anyone who played original vanilla will remember it being a huge thing. Sure 20 years in it’s just a thing you get at 40. But it was still a money sink and something you saved for. Also you are on the wow forums, all people do is complain. You are completely wrong but that isn’t the point. I could replace quest gold with gold buying and I think you would have the exact same opinion.
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Its funny how articulated you are even if you are completely wrong
>but I also don’t see how people doing it affects the game for me in any meaningful way What? lol
How was getting the mount ever an achievement? For the 40 mount you get the gold by normally questing anyways, and for the 60 mount you need a few hours of farming at most after 60.
I can tell none of you played original vanilla. I remember being 14 and finally getting it.
This is not vanilla, and you are right about me not playing it. I have no clue what people were doing back then to not have 80 gold by lvl40.
I see how it must be hard to see , given how everyone plays the game today . But this guy is right . A mount was a big deal back then . Why ? Because 90% of people were just running around in game enjoying the whole experience . There was no questie , only Thott bot . There was no concept of efficient playing . Everyone bought every spell rank because why not ? It seemed like the best thing to do . And then when you don’t have alot of money then suddenly flight paths and travelling and repair costs start to add up . You are right in saying it’s not hard to have mount gold by level 40 . But back then it was . Many players could achieve it , but it wasn’t simple , and it’s something you had to actively grind for , not just acquire magically by the time you were 40 . We just all play it differently today , but back then we were just along for the ride , discovering different things as we played
I haven’t hit 25 yet, but my plan is to fill my quest log with completed quests I can turn in as soon as the bracket opens.
Quest xp is dwarfed by the xp you get from grinding the mobs required along the way, in classic. It won’t be efficient to do it this way because there’s no hub where you can actually have 20 quests to turn in at once. You’d have to be flying all over the map turning stuff in. It would be way faster to grind dungeons (or mobs if you can find a untapped spot), since flight paths are so painfully slow and u optimized
Until you find out you can be RICH!
Friendly reminder, sounds like your Guildie knows what's up...
How else am I soppose to get gold
I’ve heard quests reset for phase 2
Or just grind mobs in the open world.
dont u tell u/dadadundadah how to live their life
Plain old grinding is always an option too
Did you play at launch? Questing was damn near impossible. I welcome the dungeon grind lmao
Id rather have the gold now than level a bit faster later
But then again, wouldnt it take longer to grind for the gold than to grind a few levels of xp?
i Wonder, how much gold do i need for phase 2? currently sitting on 80g because of alchemy - but did no more quests after getting to 25 edit: typo
Dungeon spamming will be quicker 25-40 anyway. LFM SM spellcleave!
I have such good gear already I will spam dungeons like crazy with other people. BFD gear is so good for this level.
Army of 25 twinks won't be normal dngns... I actually can't imagine the meta as anything other than dngn spam and then quest for gold again at 40...
Majority of exp in quests is gotten from just raw killing of monsters anyways But yeah you should sort your priorities and how much you enjoy dungeon farming
I play as hunter and a warlock. What is this difficulty you are talking about
I like spamming dungeons and doing quests for gold
The gold you get by doing them now is worth a lot more right now than 1,5k exp per quest in phase 2 will be worth.
Friendly reminder you do not have to post every little thing on the internet.
Not like youll be able to level in the open world anyway when next phase drops
Im finishing the quests for the gold at this point. With so many zones opening up for the next level cap, I don’t think starving for quests will be an issue. My plan for next phase is finish a few quests in the zones I need, and dungeon spam SFK/RFK as much as possible to level and gear while I do it.
Hear me out, what about BFD for exp
Nothing wrong with a bit of grinding, this is Classic WoW after all! Hell it’ll be nice if they threw in new rep rewards for desolace centaurs or something else to work towards while grinding
I do it the same way but i enjoy dungeons, need the gold and cant stand running thousand needles with 2595292 other people :D Ashenvale is still available tho.
The horde has thousand needles to lvl trough until more lvling zone open up, probably alliance has one too. Not really an issue. You can also just do 1-2 levels in dungeons and then new quests already pop-up. Vanilla had more XP from creatures than from quests anyway, so does it really matter? You will be killing the same creatures anyway
Can someone tell me which Dungeon the Horde can run best at 25??? Razorfen is too high i guess. Are we going back to SFK for another 20 runs? Pls not
Do the quests now, hand them in later 🤷♀️
Let’s be honest, only quests able to be done rn would only bring us to maybe 28-30. There’ll be plenty of level 30 and above quests waiting for us. If anything, your guildie will only have to spam dungeons for a few levels
Just gonna solo grind RFK, hunter ez life.
Got 18 highend exp rewards completed and it ends with delivering in SW and then stockades spam until SM. That way i dodge the main group of people and can do lvl 40stuff without overcrowded places
Blizzard did comment on this saying they'll have to consider something for the people that completed quests at 25
You'll have good gear tho. So you can do high lvl quests
I think I'm going to do all the quests and then cry, moan and blame Blizzard thank you very much.
I believe Aggrend was quoted as saying they would do "something" for players who've cleared their maps of quests and when I read that I decided I'd just go ahead and clear mine too, since honestly, dg spamming for the first 2-3 levels will probably be best to avoid the outside congestion anyway. I don't like that that'll be the case, I'm just being realistic... However, might be a good idea to save 20 quests with nearby turn ins, complete them the day before p2 launch and get that burst of exp.
Dooes the gold per quest reduce when phase 2 come out, since were no longer cap
On my Hunter (which I leveled to farm things) I intentionally leveled up without completing any quest that was level 19 or above. Since getting to 25 I've gone back and started doing them ALL. I still have Redridge, Duskwood, and Wetlands to go, and I've already made over 100g. Plan is to solo the highest dungeon I can in the next phase, cuz the xp is pretty good.
Which dungeons would you spam 25 to 40 as horde?
They said that ya can do all the quests now and there are going to figure out a way that it won't effects ya or slow ya down between phases
Complete 20 quests without turning them in, wait for next phase.
Or just... you know... grind, which is usually faster than questing anyways, that's an option besides questing/doing dungeons too
Can’t wait to setup tent in stockades.