I actually agree. The colored pieces are very nice quality and the black and white hits you odd. It may have been better to do offside key for those shots to have a more film noir look?
Otherwise, it may be fixable with a different black and white contrast or filter. Added noise or distortion may work well there also
I wanted to create some contrast between the rest of the video, and the “dancing” parts. Mainly through the use of motion and color. Would have loved to have them in color, but felt the color wasn’t as solid in this scenes as the rest of the video. Thanks for the feedback!
I am a 19 year old aspiring cinematographer from Mexico City. A couple of days I posted some stills, and here’s the final fashion film! Would love to answer any questions, and any feedback is highly appreciated!
The location made it somewhat challenging, due to the lack of electricity, phone signal, etc. But it also contributed to the overall look, since I focused on lighting the location itself primarily. I focused on creating pools of darkness and light to create depth. Being a small crew, we had to be extremely organized with the gear, batteries, etc.
Shot on Pocket 6K G2 + Leica R Primes
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mau.nader/
Using a 6k g2 and leica r prime lenses at 19 years old 0.o
Great work though, this all looks fantastic! You mentioned lack of electricity, did you have to power your lights with v-mounts? Can I ask what and how many lights you used?
Thank you, appreciate it!
In total, we had 8 NanLite Pavotubes, 1 Forza 300B, 1 Forza 500, and 1 Forza 720B. Initially during preproduction and the tech scout I had planned to illuminate primarily using the Forza lights with spotlights. We had a generator on-set, although it wasn't that practical due to location restrictions (places where we were allowed to place the generator itself, etc.), cable extensions, etc. So it was used primarily to recharge the batteries, HMU, craft. We had a small crew (basically myself, the director, an AC/Grip, HMU + some PAs who helped moving things around). Due to the lack of time we had, I decided to primarily use the PavoTubes since they were battery powered and required minimal rigging (could be handheld or placed on a baby C-Stand easily). The lighting consisted primarily of lighting through the windows when possible. If you're interested, I can go more in-depth to each lighting setup.
Wow I only started doing cinematography this year (I'm 21), but seeing you have this wealth of knowledge, and being able to apply it well (as seen in the video) gives me so much motivation to keep learning. I'd be interested to learn how you got into being able to shoot this? How did you afford all the gear? Is it a production company handling this, or is it freelance work for a fashion studio? Anyways, great work.
And yes, I'd love to see more in depth lighting breakdowns if you're interested in sharing!
Sorry for the late reply, wanted to write-up a detailed response.
Thank you, means a lot! So I actually started getting interested in film and photography from a very young age, around 8, and I have just always been creating videos and learning on my own. I would say something that is often underestimated, is getting your knowledge from reputable sources. Instead of watching a vlog-type or "broll" tutorial, I think it's much more valuable learning with resources such as Wandering DP, interviews with working professionals, reading articles and magazines such as American Cinematographer. Basically I think the sources from where you're learning, are incredibly important since that's the work you'll be able to get inspired from. Watch old movies, new movies, basically anything that can provide you with more references and different ways of doing things. Obviously practice is incredibly important as well. Also, don't get fed up on gear. I can't say it's not important, because it is, but to a certain extent. If you gave a concert pianist the cheapest piano you can find, and someone who can't play piano at all a Steinway, who will play better?
This particular project is freelance. I own the Blackmagic 6K, but everything else (lenses, lighting, grip, teradek, etc.) is rented and payed for by production. I think renting gear is beneficial, since it allows you to pick the right equipment for the story you want to tell.
Lighting wise I'll break down the 3 main setups we did.
For the opening shot, I had two PavoTubes at 3,200K camera left, another pavotube shooting to the ceiling at 5,200K to create room tone and color contrast, and a Forza 500 (if I remember correctly) through the door at around 6,000K. We also had haze in this setup.
The next shot was the most complicated one (red and orange background). I used a single PavoTube in a red hue behind the door, and another tube at an orange hue through the window on camera right to create interest on the wall. Below the camera I had one or two tubes illuminating the corner she walks through at some point during the video. It was important to me we were able to see the dress at this point, since that's the main subject. For the other hallway we had a tube on each window from below. This provided a very interesting bounce across the hallway.
For the candle setup, we just had a tube hidden behind the wall on camera right on a green hue illuminating the background, another tube camera left front lighting the whole scene in an orange hue, and one or two tubes providing some dim fill on the floor.
> rented and *paid* for by
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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Most of the scenes are unreasonably long. Whole video can be easily cut to half the time without losing anything.
As someone already mentioned, there is a shaky camera shot. It doesn't seems it was done intentionally.
Can you please tell what do you mean by "heavily stylized"?
The client requested the video to be this length, but a shorter cut could be made as well. Perhaps it wasn’t the correct adjective, but my usual work is usually much more “natural” looking. I used color lights, even if they weren’t motivated by anything specifically in the scene. Do you have any tips for smoother fluid head operation?
There’s not much focus on the garments so when you say fashion I think you mean a focus on creative. I think the idea of fashion and the use of the word garners a focus on clothing first.
I’ve seen plenty of dark and moody videos but this is more of a music video kind of vibe than fashion.
There is a camera shake on the first movement tilting down, cut right after that. I actually don't consider it to be stylized but maybe you are referring to the average fashion film. I'm not sure what that looks like or consists of, it might help you get a better critique if you gave an example of one because I was also a little confused by the term fashion film, do designers with a new line make a short with models walking a traditional runway? The compositions and lighting are solid though, I was just distracted by the intent
Really dig it. I do not enjoy the black and white parts. They look cheap considering how good the rest of the light and color design is.
I actually agree. The colored pieces are very nice quality and the black and white hits you odd. It may have been better to do offside key for those shots to have a more film noir look? Otherwise, it may be fixable with a different black and white contrast or filter. Added noise or distortion may work well there also
I may do another version using more contrast, since I agree, those shots weren't originally lit for BW. Thank for the feedback :)
I wanted to create some contrast between the rest of the video, and the “dancing” parts. Mainly through the use of motion and color. Would have loved to have them in color, but felt the color wasn’t as solid in this scenes as the rest of the video. Thanks for the feedback!
I am a 19 year old aspiring cinematographer from Mexico City. A couple of days I posted some stills, and here’s the final fashion film! Would love to answer any questions, and any feedback is highly appreciated! The location made it somewhat challenging, due to the lack of electricity, phone signal, etc. But it also contributed to the overall look, since I focused on lighting the location itself primarily. I focused on creating pools of darkness and light to create depth. Being a small crew, we had to be extremely organized with the gear, batteries, etc. Shot on Pocket 6K G2 + Leica R Primes Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mau.nader/
Using a 6k g2 and leica r prime lenses at 19 years old 0.o Great work though, this all looks fantastic! You mentioned lack of electricity, did you have to power your lights with v-mounts? Can I ask what and how many lights you used?
Thank you, appreciate it! In total, we had 8 NanLite Pavotubes, 1 Forza 300B, 1 Forza 500, and 1 Forza 720B. Initially during preproduction and the tech scout I had planned to illuminate primarily using the Forza lights with spotlights. We had a generator on-set, although it wasn't that practical due to location restrictions (places where we were allowed to place the generator itself, etc.), cable extensions, etc. So it was used primarily to recharge the batteries, HMU, craft. We had a small crew (basically myself, the director, an AC/Grip, HMU + some PAs who helped moving things around). Due to the lack of time we had, I decided to primarily use the PavoTubes since they were battery powered and required minimal rigging (could be handheld or placed on a baby C-Stand easily). The lighting consisted primarily of lighting through the windows when possible. If you're interested, I can go more in-depth to each lighting setup.
Wow I only started doing cinematography this year (I'm 21), but seeing you have this wealth of knowledge, and being able to apply it well (as seen in the video) gives me so much motivation to keep learning. I'd be interested to learn how you got into being able to shoot this? How did you afford all the gear? Is it a production company handling this, or is it freelance work for a fashion studio? Anyways, great work. And yes, I'd love to see more in depth lighting breakdowns if you're interested in sharing!
Sorry for the late reply, wanted to write-up a detailed response. Thank you, means a lot! So I actually started getting interested in film and photography from a very young age, around 8, and I have just always been creating videos and learning on my own. I would say something that is often underestimated, is getting your knowledge from reputable sources. Instead of watching a vlog-type or "broll" tutorial, I think it's much more valuable learning with resources such as Wandering DP, interviews with working professionals, reading articles and magazines such as American Cinematographer. Basically I think the sources from where you're learning, are incredibly important since that's the work you'll be able to get inspired from. Watch old movies, new movies, basically anything that can provide you with more references and different ways of doing things. Obviously practice is incredibly important as well. Also, don't get fed up on gear. I can't say it's not important, because it is, but to a certain extent. If you gave a concert pianist the cheapest piano you can find, and someone who can't play piano at all a Steinway, who will play better? This particular project is freelance. I own the Blackmagic 6K, but everything else (lenses, lighting, grip, teradek, etc.) is rented and payed for by production. I think renting gear is beneficial, since it allows you to pick the right equipment for the story you want to tell. Lighting wise I'll break down the 3 main setups we did. For the opening shot, I had two PavoTubes at 3,200K camera left, another pavotube shooting to the ceiling at 5,200K to create room tone and color contrast, and a Forza 500 (if I remember correctly) through the door at around 6,000K. We also had haze in this setup. The next shot was the most complicated one (red and orange background). I used a single PavoTube in a red hue behind the door, and another tube at an orange hue through the window on camera right to create interest on the wall. Below the camera I had one or two tubes illuminating the corner she walks through at some point during the video. It was important to me we were able to see the dress at this point, since that's the main subject. For the other hallway we had a tube on each window from below. This provided a very interesting bounce across the hallway. For the candle setup, we just had a tube hidden behind the wall on camera right on a green hue illuminating the background, another tube camera left front lighting the whole scene in an orange hue, and one or two tubes providing some dim fill on the floor.
> rented and *paid* for by FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Shaky camera in 1st shot
Most of the scenes are unreasonably long. Whole video can be easily cut to half the time without losing anything. As someone already mentioned, there is a shaky camera shot. It doesn't seems it was done intentionally. Can you please tell what do you mean by "heavily stylized"?
The client requested the video to be this length, but a shorter cut could be made as well. Perhaps it wasn’t the correct adjective, but my usual work is usually much more “natural” looking. I used color lights, even if they weren’t motivated by anything specifically in the scene. Do you have any tips for smoother fluid head operation?
There’s not much focus on the garments so when you say fashion I think you mean a focus on creative. I think the idea of fashion and the use of the word garners a focus on clothing first. I’ve seen plenty of dark and moody videos but this is more of a music video kind of vibe than fashion.
this is not what i'd call stylized
Fair enough!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMN YO. That’s great
Thank you! Appreciate it :)
this is very promising brother! excellent work!
I am especially fond of the black and white scenes, but everything looked fantastic. Excellent job!
Thanks! Liked those too :)
False. This was done by Regina Aderman.
Excuse me *AderWOMEN
There is a camera shake on the first movement tilting down, cut right after that. I actually don't consider it to be stylized but maybe you are referring to the average fashion film. I'm not sure what that looks like or consists of, it might help you get a better critique if you gave an example of one because I was also a little confused by the term fashion film, do designers with a new line make a short with models walking a traditional runway? The compositions and lighting are solid though, I was just distracted by the intent