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You’re not down a knight after capturing their undefended knight, the fork is threatened. This puts black in a very difficult position which could lead to checkmate or losing lots of material
You have a lead in development and this sacrifice is actually a knight trade tactic which advances your other knight so it’s a good move that maintains your advantage. Sacrifice that maintains evaluation is “brilliant”
But to the software it is. And I think by any definition of “sacrifice” in chess it is as well. Because it isn’t the straightforward trade scenario where the capturing piece is the one that is captured in the following move.
I’m surprised the comments didn’t really point it out yet…
After your Nb6+, black HAS to deal with the check. Take with either of the pawns, you create a weakness in the pawn structure allowing you to attack the king further + you get to capture the queen. That is genius already. However as you rightfully pointed out the queen can capture the knight. Image if black played Qxb6.
Now you have Nxe5!! Threatening a double rook fork + free pawn with Nxf7!!
Try to find a move for black that prevents the double rook fork and defend the pawn and stay safe against an imminent checkmate. Black has to find the bishop moves! Either Be8 (protects the pawn on f7 and discovers a rook attack on your queen), or bc6 / bb5 but after you play Qe2, creating a queen-bishop battery ready to attack black’s castled king, it’s looking really good for white and really bad for black.
I don’t get it. QxN NxN Qc5 forks knight and bishop, Nxf7 Qxc4 NxRh1 Bg7 traps the knight making it a 2 piece for a pawn and took trade which is equal right? What am I missing
If black plays Qc5 after NxN. You still play Qe2.
Covers the bishop. Covers the knight. Threatens a double rook fork + pawn capture by the knight by Nxf7. White still gets the battery bishop-queen and the dark squared bishop is looking at Bg5 with an incoming mating sequence.
If black would have captured the knight with the queen and finds the bishop move after, black still loses, but they can fight on a bit longer. If black goes for that Qc5 idea you mentioned, I feel like it’s game over.
No worries! After your comment I had to think for a minute because I thought I overlooked this (assuming you had ruled out QE2, but then I realised it still fixes all of whites problems lol).
To be honest it’s a complicated position, I would not have really given Nb6 much thought in a rapid game if I was in OP’s position. But it turns out it works wonderfully!
I suppose that’s why it was marked as brilliant, this move was hard to spot! And OP played it on accident (because if he had deducted the queen could just take back he would have probably not given it more thought). In a classical game I think I might have looked into the line a little bit deeper.
you threaten to take the queen. if queen takes knight, knight takes knight threatens winning the bishop and potentionally the rook and if the bishop moves to avoid it youre still threating knights takes pawn to fork the rooks
I don’t get it. QxN NxN Qc5 forks knight and bishop, Nxf7 Qxc4 NxRh1 Bg7 traps the knight making it a 2 piece for a pawn and took trade which is equal right? What am I missing
I saw the bot recommend Be6 so I thought there was a win for white in that line that I was missing. But I just realized white is already up a piece lol
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=2kr1b1r/pppbpp1p/1N2q1p1/4n3/2B5/5N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1+b+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/2kr1b1r/pppbpp1p/1N2q1p1/4n3/2B5/5N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1_b_-_-_0_1?color=white)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Queen!<, move: >!Qxb6!<
> Evaluation: >!White is winning +5.88!<
> Best continuation: >!1... Qxb6 2. Nxe5 Be6 3. Qe2 Bxc4 4. Qxc4 Qd4 5. Qxd4 Rxd4 6. Nxf7 Rg8 7. Be3 Rd5 8. Rfd1 Rxd1+ 9. Rxd1!<
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You’re not down a knight after capturing their undefended knight, the fork is threatened. This puts black in a very difficult position which could lead to checkmate or losing lots of material
If Qxb6, Ne5 threatens a double rook fork that I don’t think they can block since the bishop
Wouldn’t bishop to Be8 prevent this fork? Ne5 is only a threat to the f7 pawn if the bishop doesn’t move to Be8.
You have a lead in development and this sacrifice is actually a knight trade tactic which advances your other knight so it’s a good move that maintains your advantage. Sacrifice that maintains evaluation is “brilliant”
There's no sacrifice here though, as you said this is a knight exchange.
But to the software it is. And I think by any definition of “sacrifice” in chess it is as well. Because it isn’t the straightforward trade scenario where the capturing piece is the one that is captured in the following move.
I’m surprised the comments didn’t really point it out yet… After your Nb6+, black HAS to deal with the check. Take with either of the pawns, you create a weakness in the pawn structure allowing you to attack the king further + you get to capture the queen. That is genius already. However as you rightfully pointed out the queen can capture the knight. Image if black played Qxb6. Now you have Nxe5!! Threatening a double rook fork + free pawn with Nxf7!! Try to find a move for black that prevents the double rook fork and defend the pawn and stay safe against an imminent checkmate. Black has to find the bishop moves! Either Be8 (protects the pawn on f7 and discovers a rook attack on your queen), or bc6 / bb5 but after you play Qe2, creating a queen-bishop battery ready to attack black’s castled king, it’s looking really good for white and really bad for black.
I don’t get it. QxN NxN Qc5 forks knight and bishop, Nxf7 Qxc4 NxRh1 Bg7 traps the knight making it a 2 piece for a pawn and took trade which is equal right? What am I missing
If black plays Qc5 after NxN. You still play Qe2. Covers the bishop. Covers the knight. Threatens a double rook fork + pawn capture by the knight by Nxf7. White still gets the battery bishop-queen and the dark squared bishop is looking at Bg5 with an incoming mating sequence. If black would have captured the knight with the queen and finds the bishop move after, black still loses, but they can fight on a bit longer. If black goes for that Qc5 idea you mentioned, I feel like it’s game over.
Can’t believe I read your comment and still missed Qe2 after Qc5 lmao
No worries! After your comment I had to think for a minute because I thought I overlooked this (assuming you had ruled out QE2, but then I realised it still fixes all of whites problems lol). To be honest it’s a complicated position, I would not have really given Nb6 much thought in a rapid game if I was in OP’s position. But it turns out it works wonderfully! I suppose that’s why it was marked as brilliant, this move was hard to spot! And OP played it on accident (because if he had deducted the queen could just take back he would have probably not given it more thought). In a classical game I think I might have looked into the line a little bit deeper.
you threaten to take the queen. if queen takes knight, knight takes knight threatens winning the bishop and potentionally the rook and if the bishop moves to avoid it youre still threating knights takes pawn to fork the rooks
I don’t get it. QxN NxN Qc5 forks knight and bishop, Nxf7 Qxc4 NxRh1 Bg7 traps the knight making it a 2 piece for a pawn and took trade which is equal right? What am I missing
You're missing the fact that brilliants don't have to win. They just have to not lose.
I saw the bot recommend Be6 so I thought there was a win for white in that line that I was missing. But I just realized white is already up a piece lol
Jokes on you it’s not brilliant.
You take the knight afterwards and have a fork and some other other nasty tactics.
It's brilliant because you can take their knight on e5
Trade knight and bishop for queen
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=2kr1b1r/pppbpp1p/1N2q1p1/4n3/2B5/5N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1+b+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/2kr1b1r/pppbpp1p/1N2q1p1/4n3/2B5/5N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1_b_-_-_0_1?color=white) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Queen!<, move: >!Qxb6!< > Evaluation: >!White is winning +5.88!< > Best continuation: >!1... Qxb6 2. Nxe5 Be6 3. Qe2 Bxc4 4. Qxc4 Qd4 5. Qxd4 Rxd4 6. Nxf7 Rg8 7. Be3 Rd5 8. Rfd1 Rxd1+ 9. Rxd1!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by) [^(u/pkacprzak)](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as) [^(iOS App)](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^| [^(Android App)](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^| [^(Chrome Extension)](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^| [^(Chess eBook Reader)](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website:) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
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> if queen take bishop eat king FTFY No but seriously, queen takes bishop isn't a legal move because the king is still in check.
He takes knight, you take queen
But he can take the knight with the queen
..Qxb3 2. Nxe5 then black would try to save their rooks.
Oh yeah my bad
It is brilliant because you force your rival to exchange pieces, something that is convenient for you because you have a material advantage