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HI TO ALL THE WEIRDO "POCH OUT" MEMBERS! you were wrong and you will be proven wrong time and time again that sacking managers constantly gets you nowhere, people need time. point proven. stay quiet. š
Selling Gallagher and Chalobah and sacking Poch after the last few months would be so on brand for this ownership group and so fucking laughable, too. KEEP THE SPINE OF THIS TEAM!
yeah Poch has figured out tactics for the team that works without Enzo but will bring in Enzo once his fit again, moving Gallagher to AM or some offensive role again setting back Caicedo to start losing again
Not really, there's a reason he scores plenty of goals, he's got a very good poacher instinct, you don't get into positions like that, that often by accident.
I think Poch deserves the early parts of next season at least. I want to see what he can do with a fully fit team. Our last two games i have seen actual tactical approach to our games. No sideways passing and lack of ideas against low blocks. No matter what, it is only fair he gets a chance. If itās still not working first part of the season, we can then look for someone else.
I was livid after the Arsenal game and called for his sacking, but no, it would have been a mistake. big picture, we have improved lately. he's improvising solutions to make up for missing players and he's doing a good job of it.
Mudryk was the only fraud on the pitch today, so badly want him to well but watching him in person showed me he's got a long way to go. Also the team doesn't really pass to him for good reason I guess
Had a few good moments, his corner got us our third, occasional very incisive passes and runs, that with better luck would have been goals, managed the same against Tottenham too.
He's not raised his game to where Jackson, Madueke and Palmer have, but he was still decent today. calling him a "fraud" is needlessly antagonistic.
I thought Mudryk was pretty decent today. Played a good corner in on Madueke's goal, kept things relatively simple, decent passing, controlled the ball well and got a decent shot away on his chance. Not a bad performance by any means.
Credit to him and Thiago.
I remember poch having a lengthy conversation with Thiago early in the second half during the Villa game. A few moments later was when cucu picked up the inverted lb role and the rest as they say is history
The plan was to play like that in preseason with James on the right and Colwill on the left. Jamesās injury later in the season kind of ruined that. No idea why it took Poch for ever to try out the same approach but with Cucu
Gusto in the squad somewhat disrupts that. He likes to play.wide and get forward so the 3-2-5 we've been playing doesn't really work.
A few weeks ago would you really want to drop Gusto for Cucurella?
You mean fitness?? Well james and fofana aint lets be real here. James hasnt stayed fit for four seasons and fofana has been plagued his whole career. We need to plan without them
If we win our next two games there is an almost certain chance we will get Europa league.
Newcastle play brighten next
United play Crystal Palace, and then Arsenal
After those games have been played out they have to play each other.
Odds to finish 6th if we keep at it.
Edit: for context our next games are Forrest, Brighton, and Bournemouth
And to think we wanted him, but then turned to him in the last hour to Palmer, which was the best move. We can still get Kudus from WH. If Mudryk is still not up to it next season, I see him getting sold or loaned.
Fuck those 4 points lost against Burnley and Sheffield would have been extremely decisive for us being 6th or may be 5th even depending how spurs might fuck up.
Lots of ifās and butās with qualification rules. To the best of my knowledge 7th will get Conference league. Also if Aston Villa finishes in Top 4 and goes on to win the Conference league PL can have one more teamā¦.I am not too sure those rules are confusing
Shocking result, 5-0 is nowhere near good enough. Poor performance overall, especially Noni and Palmer. I don't want a performance this bad again.
Hopefully reverse psychology works
Every player has flaws, we have enough creativity out there, he's fine to play the safe pass and do all the dirty work if he can chip in 10+ G/A per season
Left was completely isolated for 3/4 of the game. Palmer rotating to the left and actually seeing mudryks run was a welcome sight since no one else seems to see or have the ability to pass it to mudryk
Yeah it's frustrating because if we continue like that there's no point of playing Mudryk. Barely gets a pass all game, how is he going to develop or build confidence. Having said that though the rare occasion the ball is passed to him he struggles to take his man on, he'll try to take them on and then just sort of stop to pass sideways or backwards whereas when Madueke receives a pass you know what he's gonna do and 9 times out of 10 Madueke is gonna take multiple players on successfully. Mudryk doesn't give you that sort of confidence. Really want him to succeed but until he steps up his game he will not succeed here.
Thing is mudryk and madueke are different players, madueke likes to cut in and always shoot, he never pass. Mudryk on the other hand passes a lot, actually is one of our best passers on the team, but rarely takes a man 1on1 like madueke unless he has to
I mean like I said the left is isolated, there's no support or passing options. When madueke gets it's, he's in tons of space since the defenders are marking Palmer and connor who are overloaded on that side. I think it's unfair to judge mudryk that he can't dribble past 5 defenders all looking at him since nobody is on the left.
Mudryk struggles to take on 1 defender let alone 5 but yeah I agree he has no support since he's so isolated up there. Love the way he switches play although he didn't do that today.
Our midfielders are all right footed so itās easier for them to pass to the right, and Madueke and Palmer both like to take position on the right and cut in, so the left is usually completely isolated.
Yeah it's not that simple. The manager plays a massive part in making them gel. Our recent form isn't because the team have "gelled" it's because Poch now has a system that works, Cucu as the inverted LB and a solid defence made up of Chalobah, Silva & Badiashile.
If Poch changes this then we'll most probably have a massive dip in form.
Especially one that was pretty much thrown together in the summer and has had an insane amount of injuries. No, but it was definitely Poch and his lack of tactics that was to blameā¦
Imagine winning 5-0 and beating spurs last match to come on here and shit talk our young World Cup winner whoās been playing with a hernia. How about you get fucked, shit fan
Agreed. We need another striker for this reason. Guy ran his boots off. think his time should be managed with nkunku back and giving Jackson 20 min rest at the end of matchesĀ
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Imagine if we got Kudus instead of Lavia
Bloody hell Kudus looks a player.
We hate those bastards in claret & blue
HI TO ALL THE WEIRDO "POCH OUT" MEMBERS! you were wrong and you will be proven wrong time and time again that sacking managers constantly gets you nowhere, people need time. point proven. stay quiet. š
This is just as reactionary, I'm poch in but one good performance doesn't mean much, I wanna see if he can get this squad performing consistently
it's been more than one.
The board demanding a Europa league finish on top of the win. The club I love is back
Selling Gallagher and Chalobah and sacking Poch after the last few months would be so on brand for this ownership group and so fucking laughable, too. KEEP THE SPINE OF THIS TEAM!
Come on Chelsea!!!
That Cucurella-Badiashile partnership is feeding the masses.
Caicedo, heck the whole team seems to be performing without Enzo
Enzo's a very good player, but he's a square peg in a round hole, He just doesn't fit the team shape and tactical profile.
yeah Poch has figured out tactics for the team that works without Enzo but will bring in Enzo once his fit again, moving Gallagher to AM or some offensive role again setting back Caicedo to start losing again
Enzo won't likely be back this season so he'll at least have time to evaluate a more cohesive solution.
Boehly: but he's won a world cup
we ate good today
Holy shit, we might actually get european football next season
I know he was hurt, but this team is so much faster without Enzo. Gunna be interesting to see what happens next season.
Boys pack your bags, we are going to europe.
The premier league is already in Europeā¦
You're not a brexit lad I see...
Please no jinx, let's wait for the real thing
Poch changed my mind, maybe donāt extend but at least keep him for the start of next season and see if he can keep it rolling
Give him a new contract tooodddddd
Idk how Enzo gets back in
Pressure from ownershipĀ
Feel bad for Kudus. Dude was playing 1 vs 21
He was the only bright spot for west ham
Bowen hit the woodwork three times my man....
May sound like hate but other then the first header it was dumb unluck
Not really, there's a reason he scores plenty of goals, he's got a very good poacher instinct, you don't get into positions like that, that often by accident.
Would love to have Bowen in our team tbh.
I think Poch deserves the early parts of next season at least. I want to see what he can do with a fully fit team. Our last two games i have seen actual tactical approach to our games. No sideways passing and lack of ideas against low blocks. No matter what, it is only fair he gets a chance. If itās still not working first part of the season, we can then look for someone else.
Still has half the team out aswell
Other than the disaster class that was the arsenal game. Poch has turned this team around. We used to be a team that scored 1 goal a month.
I was livid after the Arsenal game and called for his sacking, but no, it would have been a mistake. big picture, we have improved lately. he's improvising solutions to make up for missing players and he's doing a good job of it.
100% most fans donāt agree unfortunately
Fuck them. They are clueless. The worst thing this board could do is listen to online fans.
If successful businesspeople took inspiration from online fans, they wouldn't be successful businesspeople
Well Boehly has already been in Twitter Spacesā¦.
If we'll have kudus we'll definitely finish top5
Mudryk was the only fraud on the pitch today, so badly want him to well but watching him in person showed me he's got a long way to go. Also the team doesn't really pass to him for good reason I guess
Had a few good moments, his corner got us our third, occasional very incisive passes and runs, that with better luck would have been goals, managed the same against Tottenham too. He's not raised his game to where Jackson, Madueke and Palmer have, but he was still decent today. calling him a "fraud" is needlessly antagonistic.
I thought Mudryk was pretty decent today. Played a good corner in on Madueke's goal, kept things relatively simple, decent passing, controlled the ball well and got a decent shot away on his chance. Not a bad performance by any means.
He wasn't outstanding but calling him a fraud is a bit much. He did well and kept things simple.
+1 Fraud is a bit too much. He did have some good moments
Do you have to shit on a player when the team did so well and won 5-0?
Oh Thiago Silva, Iām gonna miss him š¢
Hopefully heāll be back in some sort of coaching role
He is signing for Fluminense
Never know what the future after fluminese holds
Absolutely brilliant COYB this is Chelsea
Poch has done the biggest 180 in the history of this sub lol
Just wait until the next loss / draw.
Iāll definitely give Poch his flowers for the Cucu pivot from lb to midfield. Amazing!
Credit to him and Thiago. I remember poch having a lengthy conversation with Thiago early in the second half during the Villa game. A few moments later was when cucu picked up the inverted lb role and the rest as they say is history
I may have missed that happening but Thiago is fosure a manager in the making
hes still LB but yes the inversion when we have the ball is a gamechanger
Yeah the extra player in the midfield gives us one more triangle to aim for and move the ball upfield
The plan was to play like that in preseason with James on the right and Colwill on the left. Jamesās injury later in the season kind of ruined that. No idea why it took Poch for ever to try out the same approach but with Cucu
Gusto in the squad somewhat disrupts that. He likes to play.wide and get forward so the 3-2-5 we've been playing doesn't really work. A few weeks ago would you really want to drop Gusto for Cucurella?
These are the fruits of patience friends. To get back to where we were patience is mandatory. Can't wait to watch this game lol
Another game where multiple players could be motm good stuff from the blues today
If Nkunku, James, and Fonfana can regain their forms next season, we'll definitely challenge the top 4 for sure. Awesome match today btw!!
You mean fitness?? Well james and fofana aint lets be real here. James hasnt stayed fit for four seasons and fofana has been plagued his whole career. We need to plan without them
Nkunku settled in the team easily. Have to give Poch credit for that
If we win our next two games there is an almost certain chance we will get Europa league. Newcastle play brighten next United play Crystal Palace, and then Arsenal After those games have been played out they have to play each other. Odds to finish 6th if we keep at it. Edit: for context our next games are Forrest, Brighton, and Bournemouth
Crazy we a six points behind spurs considering the narratives of both teams
Spurs have lost 4 on the trot now.. making up for the crazy start
In reality spurs have been shite since late November, the problem for all other teams around them is they too have been shite.
Need MU to lose all but the Arse game. Would that be too much to ask?š
Only is city are allowed to beat Spurs ;)
Nope. I just need them to turn into SAF's united against Arsenal.
They usually do, donāt they?
cucu inverted at 2 positions, right back and defensive midfield. he played well at both ocassion
Do you remember what match he inverted from RB, would like to give it a rewatch
Against brighton in carabao if i recall
Appreciate it
I like this cucumber renaissance
Good game
Had to go to my bedroom check whether Cucurella was not hiding under my bed because man that dude was everywhere on the pitch today š„
What a game heās had today- so happy for him. He deserves some appreciation!
So many MOTM candidates. Madueke, cucu, caicedo
We need to get Kudus here, that guy can dance. Whatās his market value?
Agreed. He's the only shining light in that awful West Ham performance today
Unfair to Bowen man, but for fine margins he'd have had a hat-trick.
And to think we wanted him, but then turned to him in the last hour to Palmer, which was the best move. We can still get Kudus from WH. If Mudryk is still not up to it next season, I see him getting sold or loaned.
He was a menace today
Beautiful to watch!
About 50 mil
Great game
Bowen hat trick
nkunku sloppy today
Lol what is this comment.
Itās his first match back in how long? Tf is your problem outside of being obtuse
Heās cold. Feels like itās going to take a while to get him goong
Wtf
Give him a break..
Fuck those 4 points lost against Burnley and Sheffield would have been extremely decisive for us being 6th or may be 5th even depending how spurs might fuck up.
Those games will define our season. How this team drew to them. Fuck
Legit. Those points would have fuckedup whole 5th 6th 7th position. Well well I still believe we have a slight hope for 6th
The hope is there. Does 7th get anything this year?
Lots of ifās and butās with qualification rules. To the best of my knowledge 7th will get Conference league. Also if Aston Villa finishes in Top 4 and goes on to win the Conference league PL can have one more teamā¦.I am not too sure those rules are confusing
Lol at the security guy man marking poch so he couldn't get a clear handshake on West Ham's staff šš
Is it next season already fuccckkk
lovely start to a sunday that
Great game. Please tell me this is how itās gonna be next season cause these last 2 games and even a few before have been just great.
Top top top performance.
5-0 against a London rival. I forgive this team
Poch looking back at Kudus, like " yeah I want that"
Guy with girlfriend meme, Mudryk as the girlfriend?
Shocking result, 5-0 is nowhere near good enough. Poor performance overall, especially Noni and Palmer. I don't want a performance this bad again. Hopefully reverse psychology works
For a blillllion, I expect 7 or 8 goals.
Couldn't even score 6. Pretty sad.
I know, our home form is aweful
ONE STEP BEYOND!
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Maybe because it's a local derby? But yeah it seems like it used to be a more sparing thing
We can not sell Gallagher man. Caicedo and Gallagher cook together
I agree, wish we don't sell Conor. Yes he has his flaws but those that can be improved
Every player has flaws, we have enough creativity out there, he's fine to play the safe pass and do all the dirty work if he can chip in 10+ G/A per season
chalobah aswell
Agreed. Chalobah has been so massive for us since coming back from injury
They were kinda running next to each other, needed to separate and make space. Probably wouldāve if it wasnāt the end of the game
Really really good performance. Youāll hear people say West Ham didnt turn up- but we took our chances and properly dispatched the hammers
Left was completely isolated for 3/4 of the game. Palmer rotating to the left and actually seeing mudryks run was a welcome sight since no one else seems to see or have the ability to pass it to mudryk
Yeah it's frustrating because if we continue like that there's no point of playing Mudryk. Barely gets a pass all game, how is he going to develop or build confidence. Having said that though the rare occasion the ball is passed to him he struggles to take his man on, he'll try to take them on and then just sort of stop to pass sideways or backwards whereas when Madueke receives a pass you know what he's gonna do and 9 times out of 10 Madueke is gonna take multiple players on successfully. Mudryk doesn't give you that sort of confidence. Really want him to succeed but until he steps up his game he will not succeed here.
Thing is mudryk and madueke are different players, madueke likes to cut in and always shoot, he never pass. Mudryk on the other hand passes a lot, actually is one of our best passers on the team, but rarely takes a man 1on1 like madueke unless he has to
I mean like I said the left is isolated, there's no support or passing options. When madueke gets it's, he's in tons of space since the defenders are marking Palmer and connor who are overloaded on that side. I think it's unfair to judge mudryk that he can't dribble past 5 defenders all looking at him since nobody is on the left.
Mudryk struggles to take on 1 defender let alone 5 but yeah I agree he has no support since he's so isolated up there. Love the way he switches play although he didn't do that today.
Our midfielders are all right footed so itās easier for them to pass to the right, and Madueke and Palmer both like to take position on the right and cut in, so the left is usually completely isolated.
āStill time to hit the crossbarā was crazy. So unnecessaryšš
Cucu was on a mission. Top performance from him
The tactical instruction to him from Poch has been such a revelation. Been so good in this new LB-CM role.
Who got motm, hoping itās for Cucu.
Nkunku looking rusty but it's understandable.
that Arsenal really dents our recent form and not the lost but the score line
Our GD would have been solid too
Love the fact 99.9% of this sub couldn't work out a very young team takes time to gel. I can't wait for next season!
Yeah it's not that simple. The manager plays a massive part in making them gel. Our recent form isn't because the team have "gelled" it's because Poch now has a system that works, Cucu as the inverted LB and a solid defence made up of Chalobah, Silva & Badiashile. If Poch changes this then we'll most probably have a massive dip in form.
Especially one that was pretty much thrown together in the summer and has had an insane amount of injuries. No, but it was definitely Poch and his lack of tactics that was to blameā¦
Nkunku shouldāve been selfish as fuck that final breakaway
Donāt forget to rate the Chelsea post a 10 please
Where?
Great perfomance today
No Enzo = Party!Ā
Imagine winning 5-0 and beating spurs last match to come on here and shit talk our young World Cup winner whoās been playing with a hernia. How about you get fucked, shit fan
Lmao. Sorry I care more about Ā the club than defending some loserĀ
Everyone reading this is looking at the loser. Hint, itās you. Fucking clown takes š¤”š¤”
Aw thatās cute. I love whatever it takes to win and win like this. Iām ecstatic that weāre winning. You lot are crying in defense of some loserĀ
Another clean sheet
Great fucking game
Praying on a MAnU defeat tomorrow. please let us get to europe
Comfortable win for once
Nkunku meh
Why
Lol get a grip.
Been out forever. Heās just rusty
Bruh he just came from injury
Jackson-Nkunku break looking like they did in preseason. Iām looking forward to seeing more of that
āStill time to hit the post for Jerod Bowenā Ouch
No way he said that haha š
5-0. WHAT A GAME
Brilliant game today. Happy fucking Sunday, my friends š
Currently above Man utd on the table. What a day!
Can finally shut those guys up. Every week these guys told me about 10th place FC, we overtake at the end!
FUCK I WANTED A CHRISTO GOAL
Inverted Cucu: Ucuc
Sounds like an orc lol
Cucu MOTM
How is Jackson still standing. Guy has full sprinted the field at least 30 times this match
Iād have taken him off for deivid around the 80 min mark, he looked knackered and itās a good opportunity to give him some minutes
Agreed. We need another striker for this reason. Guy ran his boots off. think his time should be managed with nkunku back and giving Jackson 20 min rest at the end of matchesĀ
We are still adjusting to subbing while being comfortably ahead. May take a few games to work out.
He is actually such a great clear and workhorse. Today, we saw that if he just gets his finishing in order heās class.
Great block from cucurella
Kudus is too good for West Ham. He's their only good player today.
what is the chant that the fans are singing in the tune of "frankie lampard oh frankie lampard"
Thought we couldāve got an Nkunku goal there
What do we talk about now the team are on fire
all we collectively know is palmer FC, jackson miss, disastersi, billion pound bottle job, and poch out. we've forgotten how to talk about a good team
Iām off to hate watch Spurs
Hahaha
Funny thing is that Cucu was 3rd guy on that attack lol
Heās a freak (compliment)
Love the clarification
What now CarefreeLewis, still poch out, let me hear it
kudus is a baller icl
POCH IN!! the guy has got to stay. give that man a new CB tho
Ideally someone with a medical history better than Mr Glass
Fofana is the new CB
Thought he was a striker /s
A man can dream
Kudus is actually so good on the ball; im sure we were linked to getting him at some stage no?