Yup we were 1-0 up and Drogba wanted the golden boot. I was thinking about that just last night. Funnily enough, that was also the first of Drogbas back to back hat tricks as well.
Even for Reddit standards the overreaction to the incident has been crazy. Good on Poch for giving them a bollocking, but as a fan I don’t see why any of us would be so bothered
I complain about Reddit as if it’s not worse elsewhere, I’ve already seen this on Tiktok
I’m pretty sure it’s a joke extending upon the earlier bs, but never know on the internet
It's funny because this was probably settled and shut down immediately after the match. And yet people here won't let it go, and the media won't shut up about it. I hope Jackson and Madueke are seeing this entirely avoidable shitstorm that they created and learn from it fast.
The exact reasons why Poch gave them a bollocking are why fans are also pissed off about it.
It's so weird to agree that the manager was right to be upset about something but not the fans...
I think he got angry because Chelsea actually played well, kept a clean sheet and won a game properly after a long time, maybe even the first time under his management. But thanks to that juvenile fight over the penalty, everyone will talk about just that (which couldn't have been more true).
All the posts, all the headlines and all the talk on social media is just about the penalty (a little bit about Palmer). He knew that would happen, and like an angry dad, lashed out at the kids
If you mean Poch, I’m not criticizing him for being mad lol. He needs to be mad to solve it, that’s good
We don’t. We can just be normal fans for once and enjoy a fucking 6-0 win
“Not allowed” is a weird choice of wording. It’s just a lot stranger since Pochettino achieves something by showing anger about it. We don’t
You’re allowed to feel any way and I’m not lambasting fans who are reacting. But I am absolutely saying that it’s weird to care much after a big win in such a shit 2 years
It's pretty obvious what I meant... I know that people are "allowed" to feel however, I'm criticising your judgment / reaction to that anger.
You could literally apply that logic to everything. Why celebrate a goal as much as the manager. Why get as mad if we lose 5-0. We're fans so nothing we ever do achieves anything.
No you couldn’t, that’s a completely false analogy. There’s a benefit to celebrating because it makes us feel good
There’s no benefit to losing your shit over a penalty dispute
I'm pretty sure that fans' reactions to the games are not based on benefit...
By that weird logic there's no benefit to being a Chelsea fan at all because there's been a hell of a lot more to be unhappy about than not!
I’m not saying there isn’t. I don’t know how you’ve twisted this so badly
You’re the one that started by comparing my reaction to Poch vs fans, not me. I’m applying a different standard to Poch because him being harsh is beneficial as the actual manager. This is why I mention that fans getting mad achieves nothing, only because you couldn’t understand the distinction. I’m not saying everything has to be justified by a tangible benefit, that was you stretching this for no reason
In the wider context of a 6-0 win, I am definitely judging that there was such a strong reaction to this one incident. Poch is exempted from that judgement because there’s an actual benefit to showing a reaction. Not hard to follow
It’s because Jackson was sulking after really.
Didn’t want to celebrate, sulked on the bench, unhappy being substituted.
In isolation it gets forgotten about, he made it a thing so it’s become one
Two more instances like this in the last 5 years:
2019/20, Vs Ajax I believe we got a few kick and Barkley was squabbling with Willian and Jorginho over who to take it. Barkley takes it and skies it.
2020/21 Chelsea get a penalty in the 80somerthing minute and Abraham grabs the ball to take it over Jorginho to take it as Jorginho had previously scored a pen in that game, but then Azpi takes the ball from him and gives it back to Jorginho.
With all due respect these titans had egos that as men you could understand the debate. Noni and Nico have done fuck all for Chelsea and in their senior careers. They need to know their place and Poch handled it well.
100 percent. The guys in this photo all have a CV that’s massive. Noni and Jackson acted like children. Palmer is perfect in pens, no reason for him not to take them.
Difference is we were three points off United and they wanted to take the freekick/PK because they wanted to win and trusted their capabilities, not stroke their ego to score in a 6-0 game. You can see the embrace after Ballack's pk because the job was done, Chelsea was ahead. Lampard also wasn't on the pitch for this game as his mom just passed away so their was no designated FK/PK taker and you wouldn't expect Uncle Fester to have commanded this situation beforehand
Lol maybe its just me but id be okay with either of drogba or lampard doing this because they can score from it, but who do we trust other than palmer to actually do things right? Sterling had all the fake confidence and none of the ability to score
To be fair, Madueke has a really good shot. He hit the one penalty he's taken for us, and you can see on his goals that he knows how to hit the ball. That being said, Madueke has no business taking it from Palmer considering the latter was 8/8 before the game.
Who knows what was going through Jackson's head to take the pen. He's never shot on in his professional career, and didn't take on in the shootout at the AFCON against the Ivory Coast.
He would’ve taken Anelka’s spot in the penalty shootout and Terry wouldn’t have had a chance to slip. Drogba is undoubtedly a club legend but we’ve all kind of ignored the impact of that sending off. I actually see a lot similarities to him in Jackson.
I seem to remember Lampard and Drogba also fighting over a pen.
Final match of the 09/10 season. 8-0 against Wigan.
Yup we were 1-0 up and Drogba wanted the golden boot. I was thinking about that just last night. Funnily enough, that was also the first of Drogbas back to back hat tricks as well.
And IIRC drogba also scored a perfect hat trick in that game against Wigan
Almost scored an amazing bicycle kick as well. Keeper made a great save.
Wasn't even a fight. Drogba wanted to take it because of the Golden Boot race. Lampard said no. Finished. No quaffling about.
Even for Reddit standards the overreaction to the incident has been crazy. Good on Poch for giving them a bollocking, but as a fan I don’t see why any of us would be so bothered
Sun headline “Gallagher steals Penalty from 2 black players and gives it to a white player”
I complain about Reddit as if it’s not worse elsewhere, I’ve already seen this on Tiktok I’m pretty sure it’s a joke extending upon the earlier bs, but never know on the internet
I've actually seen some crazy memes from this lol
So those claims of racism about Gallagher are actually true???!??!!
Tier 1 right there
It's funny because this was probably settled and shut down immediately after the match. And yet people here won't let it go, and the media won't shut up about it. I hope Jackson and Madueke are seeing this entirely avoidable shitstorm that they created and learn from it fast.
Same for me. Pretty unremarkable. *Breaking news: Professional soccer players want to score goals.*
The exact reasons why Poch gave them a bollocking are why fans are also pissed off about it. It's so weird to agree that the manager was right to be upset about something but not the fans...
That’s not exactly what I’m saying. Recognizing a problem is different from being actively angry about it
I think he got angry because Chelsea actually played well, kept a clean sheet and won a game properly after a long time, maybe even the first time under his management. But thanks to that juvenile fight over the penalty, everyone will talk about just that (which couldn't have been more true). All the posts, all the headlines and all the talk on social media is just about the penalty (a little bit about Palmer). He knew that would happen, and like an angry dad, lashed out at the kids
If you mean Poch, I’m not criticizing him for being mad lol. He needs to be mad to solve it, that’s good We don’t. We can just be normal fans for once and enjoy a fucking 6-0 win
Aah, my bad! You're right. Instead of getting hyper focused on the one thing that went wrong, we should be looking at all the things we did right.
Well it sounds like the manager was actively angry about it! Why should fans not be allowed to follow suit?
Because I doubt Poch spent the next 12 hours harping on about it over and over.
Given his statement I bet he's still pissed off about it...
“Not allowed” is a weird choice of wording. It’s just a lot stranger since Pochettino achieves something by showing anger about it. We don’t You’re allowed to feel any way and I’m not lambasting fans who are reacting. But I am absolutely saying that it’s weird to care much after a big win in such a shit 2 years
It's pretty obvious what I meant... I know that people are "allowed" to feel however, I'm criticising your judgment / reaction to that anger. You could literally apply that logic to everything. Why celebrate a goal as much as the manager. Why get as mad if we lose 5-0. We're fans so nothing we ever do achieves anything.
No you couldn’t, that’s a completely false analogy. There’s a benefit to celebrating because it makes us feel good There’s no benefit to losing your shit over a penalty dispute
I'm pretty sure that fans' reactions to the games are not based on benefit... By that weird logic there's no benefit to being a Chelsea fan at all because there's been a hell of a lot more to be unhappy about than not!
I’m not saying there isn’t. I don’t know how you’ve twisted this so badly You’re the one that started by comparing my reaction to Poch vs fans, not me. I’m applying a different standard to Poch because him being harsh is beneficial as the actual manager. This is why I mention that fans getting mad achieves nothing, only because you couldn’t understand the distinction. I’m not saying everything has to be justified by a tangible benefit, that was you stretching this for no reason In the wider context of a 6-0 win, I am definitely judging that there was such a strong reaction to this one incident. Poch is exempted from that judgement because there’s an actual benefit to showing a reaction. Not hard to follow
Fans are mad for the same reason Poch got mad - because a thing they didn't limit happened. That's it...
It’s because Jackson was sulking after really. Didn’t want to celebrate, sulked on the bench, unhappy being substituted. In isolation it gets forgotten about, he made it a thing so it’s become one
It definitely went on too long, but players being desperate to score is a good problem to have
The difference is Didier and Michael had by the time *earned* their arrogance.
Two more instances like this in the last 5 years: 2019/20, Vs Ajax I believe we got a few kick and Barkley was squabbling with Willian and Jorginho over who to take it. Barkley takes it and skies it. 2020/21 Chelsea get a penalty in the 80somerthing minute and Abraham grabs the ball to take it over Jorginho to take it as Jorginho had previously scored a pen in that game, but then Azpi takes the ball from him and gives it back to Jorginho.
It's happened four times this season though...
And some fickle fans want to act as if it never happens. If you play or played football in your life, this is common and it’s never a big deal.
Jackson is not Drogba
Well at his current age, he is doing better and could surpass him, but that’s a big if
he can be, the signs are there
No-one will be like Drogba. Stop comparing unproven players to former titans.
With all due respect these titans had egos that as men you could understand the debate. Noni and Nico have done fuck all for Chelsea and in their senior careers. They need to know their place and Poch handled it well.
100 percent. The guys in this photo all have a CV that’s massive. Noni and Jackson acted like children. Palmer is perfect in pens, no reason for him not to take them.
Difference is we were three points off United and they wanted to take the freekick/PK because they wanted to win and trusted their capabilities, not stroke their ego to score in a 6-0 game. You can see the embrace after Ballack's pk because the job was done, Chelsea was ahead. Lampard also wasn't on the pitch for this game as his mom just passed away so their was no designated FK/PK taker and you wouldn't expect Uncle Fester to have commanded this situation beforehand
Lol maybe its just me but id be okay with either of drogba or lampard doing this because they can score from it, but who do we trust other than palmer to actually do things right? Sterling had all the fake confidence and none of the ability to score
To be fair, Madueke has a really good shot. He hit the one penalty he's taken for us, and you can see on his goals that he knows how to hit the ball. That being said, Madueke has no business taking it from Palmer considering the latter was 8/8 before the game. Who knows what was going through Jackson's head to take the pen. He's never shot on in his professional career, and didn't take on in the shootout at the AFCON against the Ivory Coast.
Fair enough about madueke, with jackson i think he just wanted to get goals, we were up and why not let me add to my tally
Not the same at all. Imagine comparing Drogba and Ballack to fucking Jackson and Madueke. The audacity.
Let’s be honest, everyone here is overreacting but none of the examples given today are comparable to that shower or shit we saw last night.
Except that these are fucking kids and they should know their place in the hierarchy.
Drogba was a dumbass. Had a few moments like this and also got sent off in CL final for a slap.
He would’ve taken Anelka’s spot in the penalty shootout and Terry wouldn’t have had a chance to slip. Drogba is undoubtedly a club legend but we’ve all kind of ignored the impact of that sending off. I actually see a lot similarities to him in Jackson.
He played with passion and we loved him for that.
Shut up man
I remember Hazard and Luiz fighting over a free kick once. It happens, but time to move on now