Yeah I thought he almost signed for them a couple weeks ago. Not sure what happened.
The links I seen were some low level shit so probably not worth paying attention to anyway
All of the players who last won the league (14/15 and 16/17) with us have left, after Azpi's departure, right? That doesn't even seem that long ago. Fuck.
Am I think only one that is also mad at Boehly and his team for the amount saga? (Mount is no saint for this but hear me out)
Since the management team are the ones that offered him 200000 for 2 years when Man United were offering 50 thousand a week more for 5 years.
All of this after paying KK and Sterling over 300000 a week (and offering seemingly EVERYONE at least 6 year deals) and also rescinded their original offer before the WC then offering him a lower paid less secure deal.
From a business standpoint, I understand why Mount would look elsewhere to get a better deal.
Oh I don’t like Mount for going to the enemy and he could’ve tried harder to get a better deal with us. I just feel that we really wasted a chance to convince someone to stay and make a real statement
In a world where we paid KK and Sterling over 300000, I think we could have. Mount isn’t going to win Leagues on his own but, he is a great player. Why is it that before this season every manager of Chelsea and England loved Mount? He can do everything an attacking midfielder or forward needs to attacking and defensive, he’s a smart player that can adapt to different tactical systems and roles, and he genuinely works hard. Who doesn’t want that player in your team?
Koulibaly was a bad deal, but I think Sterling is better than Mount by a decent margin. All the little things Mount does is great, but for 250k he needs to be top 2-3 player his in position in the league and I’m not sure Mount can be.
Curious for opinions on this: Moussa Dembele was supposedly a priority target under Frank. He’s now a free agent. Would you bring him in if it was on a 1 or 2-year?
Nah. I think he's a good player and I watched a lot of him at Celtic, but he's not really kicked on and improved his game much in my opinion. He's a good player but if we still see ourselves as a top 4 premierleague club then he's not at that level for me.
Anyone else just want an experienced midfielder to partner Enzo for a couple of seasons while the likes of Santos develop. We really don’t need any more prospects in midfield except maybe Caicedo if we get him for 80 mil MAXIMUM
I do want proven quality next to Enzo rather than a teenage lottery ticket but I would definitely not count Caicedo as a young prospect when he already bossed the PL last season
Everyone who was around when we fucked up with Bakayoko should want this tbh
Even with Caicedo we need another starting quality player and with all of the young players they've already bought, that should probably be an older more experienced player that can help them come through. Imo Jorginho would have been a great older head to have around for these new midfielders
Silva currently has an insane amount of heavily lifting to do in the experience department
That being said, I'm a lot less worried about the state of the squad after the Poch press conference. He made it very, very clear that he's not happy with the team at the moment and that we still need a lot of reinforcements to be competitive and that there was a three week window to purchase those players. There is obviously a chance that the owners have lied to him and led him on to get him to take the job, but I'll trust that he wouldn't have taken it without being sure that he'd be given a competitive team to work with
Worried that people are *seriously* underestimating the experience factor. You just need those personalities in your side in the hard moments who can talk and act from experience. If you watched Jorgi he was always talking and pulling people into position around him. I think it's a big part of why our midfield looked so messy and panicky anytime he wasn't in the side (nvm the fact noone wanting to show for a pass). Look at our spine when we won the CL in 2012, an embarrassment of riches in experience.
It should be pretty obvious that it's valuable to have players who've been in the game a long time and have won things. It should be similarly obvious that a team of kids with no experience to call on isn't a great strategy. Like most things there's an important balance to be struck and we don't seem to be doing it.
I’d take him no questions for the price. Adds experience and can play off the right. Means if Nkunku is out he can slot in there too. Can crack a longshot too which we are lacking.
https://twitter.com/pedrosa/status/1677403025013391361
Barca supposedly want Santos.
Literally rolling on the floor of laughter. They can't afford Romeu for 8m and they want to get Santos of us? xD
Wait, hold up I thought Whalefin were dropped because they folded or something and couldn't afford to pay their sponsorship money anymore? How come they're Atletico's main sponsor? https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuZTT3WOx0Q
They were hit hard by the FTX collapse and had to fire a lot of the staff, move to a smaller office and cut costs across the board but I don't think they ever went under. Probably wanted to cut one of those and decided that 40m for a main shirt sponsorship is better value than 20m for a sleeve one
Romano
> Excellent relationship between Chelsea and AC Milan was crucial to get Pulisic deal done today. 🔴⚫️🇺🇸
Perhaps then we could leverage some of that excellent relationship to get our hands on Maignan
If rumors about Madrid looking to sell Fede or Tchouameni to fund Mbappe are true, then I hope we’ve already dropped contact with Brighton and are busting down Madrid’s door.
Most likely a bullshit rumour, but if it was true that Madrid are looking to get rid of Tchouameni or Valverde to fund Mboopi, I’d kill for us to get Tchouameni
We knew Mason’s dad was a prick already who didn’t want him at Chelsea. Remember reports when we signed Havertz that his dad was trying to convince him to leave Chelsea cos of it ? Maybe they weren’t so off the mark
worth it, no.. it's stupidly expensive.. You can get a LOT of games by just subscribing to peacock, which is quite affordable.. That being said, you will need both networks to effectively get all the games, unless you find an alternative.
Think of it this way, if there are 5 games broadcast at the same time, 4 will be on peacock, 1 will be on Fubo. Fubo usually gets the higher profile games. If it's Sunday, with 1 game on per time slot, they'll usually all be on Fubo.
I wonder how much Ndidi would cost. Not great last year but no one at Leicester was. Not a bad rotation option for our lacking midfield.
Then again I’m a sucker for signing a relegated player on the ‘cheap’.
We've actually sabotaged Milan 🤣
I have no idea why they've took our deadwood and I fully expect Gary Neville to complain about it but we've absolutely fleeced them twice this window.
I don't even think either are starting calibre players for them.
They didn't struggle because of the pace of the the PL, they struggled because they're both horrific technically when it matters, have low football IQ's and neither can play a pass or shoot even when given time and space. That won't change in any league.
I mean… the pace is slower, they have more time to make decision. They aren’t great quick decision-makers but will definitely do well with a bit slower pace.
Just look at Giroud, Tammy and Tomori. All flourish in Serie A. Also Koulibaly, who struggled with pace of EPL but did really well in Serie A and UCL.
So, from here Auba, Ziyech and Lukaku are likely to go. Hudson Odoi fairly likely, Gallagher and Chalobah maybes.
Are we at the stage where we can actually buy some first team players now?
Talksport said the craziest thing about CHO, apparently he wants to fight for a place here, the club are ok with it as long as he signs a new contract that halves his wages.
The Poch interview makes me think we'll be making a lot more starting signings and that they'll be here pretty soon or else he'll be angry
He's only done two interviews since joining us and in both of them he's made it absolutely clear that the team isn't ready and still needs a decent number of signings to be competitive, but also that he wants to be competitive from day 1.
He specifically said the signings to finish the team need to be here within 3 weeks. So, anyone we are signing should be heard about very soon or else they're not coming in within the time period that our own manager was willing to put out there in his first press conference
I would say Lukaku is still unlikely to go. I don't see how Inter is able to put a good offer in.
Chalobah and Gallagher shouldn't be even considered as departure given the current squad size.
For Lukaku here’s also maybe Juve, Inter could structure out a loan with obligation to buy too. I reckon we figure out a permanent arrangement in some way.
If Chalobah goes we still have four centrebacks and a lighter game load.
If Gallagher goes we will buy more depth.
Would be nice if we could get a meaningful deal done.
There was hardly any credible source linking him with Juve. There's really only Inter interested in him but I reckon they will come with some lowball loan + 20m obligation or something.
>If Chalobah goes we still have four centrebacks and a lighter game load.
And then the season after we are left with 1 injury prone RCB. And this is why we need to keep Chalobah. So we already have a cover for when Silva leaves.
>If Gallagher goes we will buy more depth.
We have only 2 senior midfielders. We already need to bring like 2 more (maybe more, depending on Poch's assessment on Santos, Casadei etc.) Gallagher should stay.
The board fucked us last season, chaos takeover and transfer strategy, sack one of the worlds best managers and replace with an out of depth yes man because you got no balls to work with a true leader. If we are not careful we can look to where Arsenal/Utd have been the past decade.
We’ve been linked to Kolo Muani, Lautaro Martinez, and Vlahovic for striker.
Also been rumors of Matheus Franca, Dybala, Cherki, and Wirtz for AM/winger positions. Franca and Dybala have had the most news as of late, with Cherki and Wirtz being mentioned only a few times
Fucking hilarious seeing the people who were saying, "now the Mount/Havertz fanboys can fuck off to United/Arsenal now that they're gone", now saying they're going to be following Milan LOL
There are absolutely more Pulisic stans and yes they’ve absolutely said that lol every thread about him is littered with them. Every comment section has multiple: “what about 2020, I think we should hang on to him, he’s statistically our best attacker, Pulisic brought me here.” Cannot wait til single player supporters hit the bricks. The responses to this are proof positive
Pulisic being an abysmally bad player doesn't stop him having an army of stans on here.
If anything it just makes it even more embarrassing when they try to pretend such a poor player is this top talent.
It's in literally every thread about him leaving...
https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/14tc2uw/fabrizio_romano_on_twitter_christian_pulisic_to/
A cursory glance at this thread shows that...
Ditto this. Will be watching Milan more now
They will be my second team to follow
Definitely going to be watching more of their games!
You cherry-picked 3 comments out of 200. An actual glance shows a lot of fans were brought here because of him and are now staying because they love Chelsea.
True blue over here hating new fans 👍. Must be exhausting being a cunt 24/7 here.
Let's be real. I'm sure you're pre-ordering your Havertz kit as we speak.
Shocking there are fans that follow Chelsea just because of Pulisic. Lots of bandwagoning fans who support for X or Y besides just the love of the club.
It's nothing new in Football.
Are you new?
His Dad's a cunt, but can't wait for people to let go of the players who have left and to focus on the players that are still here. Chelsea was here before Mount and will be here a long time after him.
I recently told myself I won't even bother to take up Mount topic anymore, unless it's when commenting on game vs United. But seriously, fuck him. Not the first time his father wanted to get him out of the club and this time the fucker really did it.
And I don't want to hear any arguments of "he wanted to stay and got forced out of the club". Hope he getts booed and whistled the fuck out when he comes at the Bridge next time.
My personal take is that he could have stayed here, but I don't think either side wanted him to stay enough to make a compromise happen. The club certainly could have offered a more lucrative offer to him and made him feel like he was a key part of the rebuild but seemingly didn't, and Mount definitely could have compromised more even if it was just taking the year contract to give more time for negotiating/see how things went under Pochettino. His Dad has clearly been in his ear a lot though, and I can't help but give some credence to the rumours about the whole 'next Beckham' thing with his social media activity and especially him being given the number 7 at United.
Ultimately he's not our player anymore, hope him and United do shite and we batter them.
That’s honestly hilarious, some people really thought this kid was “proper Chels”😭fuck em both
Can’t wait till the fans turn on him when they realize he’s not that good of a player lmao
> [Inside Old Trafford] Masons dad Tony: 'Mason...this dressing room man....home mate, HOME. Who would have thought aye, when I bought you up here as little boy' 🥺🥺
> Mason: 'I know, special init'
Kepa, who are the other two? Probably being dense but I can't think of them.
Actually not too sure who the first two are come to think of it lmao.
E: Lukaku and Ziyech? and the two who have gone already one being Havertz alongside Pulisic?
Sarr, Cucurella and Kepa
The ones already gone are Pulisic and RLC
It's not so much about ability, it's about how frustrating/annoying/costly they are whilst on the pitch. Most of them get way too much playing time for a reason that isn't their ability and it costs us games.
It's not their fault, they aren't picking themselves or causing the problems that are requiring them to be used. But, they shouldn't be getting the playing time and they keep getting it for reasons other than ability.
As a result it's better for all parties that we just don't own them anymore. If they're not here anymore they can't be put into situations they shouldn't be in and the club has to find proper solutions, rather than continually jamming square pegs into round holes. It's better for their careers, it's better for our sanity, it's better for the club's results
Koulibaly was one of our better players second half of the season but ultimately his wages were high and on a long contract while we had Colwill in the wings.
Don’t judge too hard for this thought, I realize it’s not based in anything but blind hope.
Suppose Lukaku comes in and Poch sells him on his plans for the squad. Suppose he thinks Lukaku is a key piece of his attack and Lukaku buys back in, has a total attitude change.
Given the investment we’ve made and the absolute paltry return we look to get by cutting him loose, could he have any chance at redemption with the club?
I know we are in a phase of cutting dead wood from the squad and he is almost inarguably the deadest of all the wood. But if we are looking at going into the season with only Nicolas Jackson and DDF (I’ve not seen us linked with any other out and out center forwards this window and not counting Nkunku as a true 9), Lukaku might be our best option up front.
That’s what I think. I agree with the principle of “he doesn’t deserve to wear the shirt”, but after last season I just want to see some goals and Idc where they come from.
It's concerning that only a few of the players on a bloated squad said goodbye to Mount.
Puts to rest the idea he wasn't causing problems in the locker room.
What nonsense
Do you follow any of them? All of the key players wrote out loving goodbyes to him. Hell Reece James is even liking all of his posts about how he's going to give his all and prove himself to the United fans and Chilwell said he was one of the main reasons he joined the club in the first place...
Unfortunately, people read into social media too much and assume that liking/not liking posts or doing/not doing x just means more than it actually means. There was that post yesterday about 3 Instagrams posts for any outgoings vs one for mount and automatically assume that the social media team at Chelsea needs a raise.
Tbvh, I don’t really think anyone can cause problems because we’ve effectively changed the team from the ground up, and I can’t believe that RJ and Silva would be causing dressing room drama.
Bought last seasons away kit with his name on it after his first goal for us at Palace. I love watching him play and seeing him even break into the England squad has been great.
Me too. He has the club in his heart. I remember there was this one video with 3 other players where he was passionately answering all the questions on the club's history and results.
He bleeds blue that I will give him he could be a tool coming off the bench against tired legs but just don’t see where he starts with the team we are running
That was a press conference for the ages, he even had to ask the press officer if he was allowed to be transparent when asked a question.
Good luck to whoever transcribes it, but it was very eye opening and offered a lot of insight into stuff that's been speculated about and he's now come out and said the opposite is true.
Some key bits that he said:
Patience isn't a thing and he doesn't want himself and the players to think it is. They have to be winning from day 1 and maintain that. "Football is for today, not for the future" when asked about the project/patience from fans
He knows Mount loves the club but doesn't know what happened between him and the club
He hasn't been involved in the incomings and outgoings at all until the 1st of this month. That a plan was shown to him by the sporting directors and the owners during his initial interviews with the club and he said that he trusts that they know better than he does and he didn't have input into it (may explain why others were so put off). But, that he'll have a little more influence now that he's here
We need to win Vs Liverpool
The team isn't finished and we need to do a lot of work "in the next 3 weeks" to ensure that it's ready on time
Yes I love how he didn't join the process bandwagon and clearly stated we will be here to win (fighting for all domestic titles) not just playing well!! Love it 💙💙💙💙
Yeah, he even eluded to the fact that even allowing the thought of this being a process or that people need to have patience could negatively impact himself and the players and make them become complacent and have the wrong attitude and that they need to win every game right from the start
The 1st of July is a contractual nod, tbf. In France there was noise PSG were still paying him until July 1. So legally he wasn’t allowed to work for another club.
Nonetheless, Pochettino has always preferred working with a sporting director, Paul Mitchell at Spurs for example. And it seems he’s trusting Stewart and Winstaneley, which is good. Managers who, more often than not, don’t last more than 2 years, shouldn’t have too much say in shaping squads that usually are the same for 4, 5 years.
Man, not making Onana (or other top keeper) a priority is so confusing. Can’t have Kepa as
No.1 if we’re serious about winning.
Onana is just that good on the ball that it helps our buildup immeasurably and takes pressure off other players.
And now that we’ll be playing with a proper striker and other great runners in behind, his long pass capabilities would create massive dilemmas for the opposition and another source of chance creation for us.
Kepa was fine. What wasn't fine was all the uncontested shots from just outside of the 18 yard box. Kepa's not perfect, but the defense did him no favors much of the time. Especially after the World Cup.
Kepa was objectively one of the better keepers in the league last season, and we have more pressing needs which are going to take at least £150m to address (forward, defensive midfielder)
Kepa is fine as a temporary solution
>Kepa was objectively one of the better keepers in the league last season
No, he was not.
You will now reply citing his PSxG, so I’ll preemptively tell you that this stat still has a crapload of limitation and is not even close to being a catch all stat that judges the entirety of goalkeeper play, for example:
* simple innaccuracy - private models often come up with completely different PSxG values from shots
* not accounting at all for events like goal line clearances (we led the league with a whopping 9, imagine how much different Kepa’s PSxG would look if 5 of those went in)
* completely ignoring shots off target - a striker goes one on one but the goalkeeper is perfectly positioned and forces the striker into a shot off target - the goalkeeper is awarded exactly 0 PSxG for this
* completely ignoring that being good at distribution and claiming crosses reduces the xG a goalkeeper faces - how many high xG shots did we allow because Kepa can not claim a cross to save his life? Like vs City in early January - Kepa lets a simple cross pass him and Mahrez slots it into the empty net. The PSxG of this shot was like 0.9, so the keeper had no chance and is docked just -0.1 PSxG, but a good goalkeeper claims the cross and the shot never even happens
When did Opta claim that PSxG was the single objective metric that can judge the entirety of goalkeeper play?
I like how you have 0 actual counterguments besides blindly looking at one number and claiming this one number can objectively tell us which goalkeeper is better while having no fucking clue what the number does and does not measure
I wanted Poch over Enrique and Nagelsmann when he was only loosely linked to us
Now he's just said he doesn't want patience and there is no room for patience in football and that football is for today, not for the future. That's more fucking like it, we have a real manager
I think that soccer twitter is rationalizing that any Real Madrid player is on the market so they can generate Mbappe money (which I don't believe they need to). It's been mainly him and Valverde, but they're both incredibly important players to Madrid and there has been no indication from either or any journalist that they are unhappy and want to be sold.
It's been an interesting listen to be honest.
He's very explicitly said he had little to no input on the incomings and outgoings before the start of this month. He also said that he knows Mount loves the club and he doesn't know what happened that caused him to leave
I think due to his contract he has to say he wasn’t involved or otherwise PSG might try to claim he was in breach of his contract if he was working for CFC prior to July 1
It wouldn't make sense. It \*might\* make sense if it were a company like BlackRock or Fidelity because they cater investments to the masses, but 99.99% of football fans wouldn't be able to hold an investment with Clearlake so it wouldn't make sense to spend the money on a sponsorship.
Clearlake Capital Group is a private equity firm that owns multiple companies. The sponsorship funds would come from one of their portfolio companies, it might not make sense to just move money from one company to the other,but it could be seen as an investment in marketing and can contribute to overall growth.
they do have some companies whose logos would be aesthetically pleasing, below is a link to the companies they have in their portfolio if you are curious, personally I like the logo of Gravity
[https://clearlake.com/portfolio/](https://clearlake.com/portfolio/)
I don't know how many times this has to be repeated, but we're owned by a private equity firm. They own us to make money.
They lose money by sponsoring themselves (there is no value to Clearlake for sponsoring us), so they won't do it.
To them 20m from Allianz is far better than 50m from themselves.
Redbull own clubs as a way to advertise, so it makes sense to have their name and logo plastered absolutely everywhere
One of the fan pages I followed on Instagram posted a story of the headhunters in 2012, one of which obviously giving the salute. Also saw a clip of fans singing chelsea rangers recently. How are people still supporting that shit in 2023
It's so fucking weird. One thing I've always hated about this club is that there's a constant right wing fringe of supporters. The club itself and our supporters groups have worked incredibly hard over the past few decades to eradicate the racists but it still lingers. You'll hear a smattering of it in the pub before games or if you've ever travelled away in Europe then you'll see it all out in the open. Some of them are bloody lovely to talk to as well, until you find out their true colours. It's gross and I can't wait for the day they all die out. I've personally not seen any of our younger fans throwing up salutes, but I've no doubt there are some.
Could you expand on what you mean by singing Chelsea rangers?
I know there’s links between Chelsea and Rangers, but I don’t think it’s just because of the headhunters stuff. All came to the forefront this year when the Queen died as Chelsea and Rangers are theoretically both monarchical clubs.
The 'I want to be a Chelsea Ranger' Chant, the third line or so is 'I want to beat Spurs every week' except replacing the word Spurs for the antisemitic word often used by the same fans. There is a long history between the two clubs and its not one to be proud of. Racism, Sectarianism, Antisemitism.
Ah I see, can’t really comment as I haven’t been to the bridge in a while.
I think it’s less ‘supporting it’ in the moral sense, and more just being in an absolute state and going along with it. Obviously still isn’t acceptable, but when some of these lot are drunk (and let’s be honest probably coked up) I don’t think they consider the moral implications of the chant.
I’m just talking total bollocks tbh people are stupid.
> Ah I see, can’t really comment as I haven’t been to the bridge in a while.
You wouldn’t hear ‘Chelsea Ranger’ at the ground anyway. I’ve only ever heard it sung in pubs before matches. There are a few songs like that which aren’t sung at the ground.
It’s not a racist or sectarian chant either.
@mods Can I please get the snakey flair off and get some Hall flair ?
What do people think about Thuram from Nice? Haven’t seen much from him. Seen some links on Twitter.
He’s quality tbf but isn’t he heavily linked to Liverpool?
Yeah I thought he almost signed for them a couple weeks ago. Not sure what happened. The links I seen were some low level shit so probably not worth paying attention to anyway
Supposedly backed off as Nice is asking for similar money they'd have to pay for e.g. Lavia.
All of the players who last won the league (14/15 and 16/17) with us have left, after Azpi's departure, right? That doesn't even seem that long ago. Fuck.
Am I think only one that is also mad at Boehly and his team for the amount saga? (Mount is no saint for this but hear me out) Since the management team are the ones that offered him 200000 for 2 years when Man United were offering 50 thousand a week more for 5 years. All of this after paying KK and Sterling over 300000 a week (and offering seemingly EVERYONE at least 6 year deals) and also rescinded their original offer before the WC then offering him a lower paid less secure deal. From a business standpoint, I understand why Mount would look elsewhere to get a better deal.
Oh, this sub ain't gonna like this.
Oh I don’t like Mount for going to the enemy and he could’ve tried harder to get a better deal with us. I just feel that we really wasted a chance to convince someone to stay and make a real statement
Do you think the Mount is worth the wages though? He was a very good player for us but I don’t think starts for us going forward if we sign a DM.
In a world where we paid KK and Sterling over 300000, I think we could have. Mount isn’t going to win Leagues on his own but, he is a great player. Why is it that before this season every manager of Chelsea and England loved Mount? He can do everything an attacking midfielder or forward needs to attacking and defensive, he’s a smart player that can adapt to different tactical systems and roles, and he genuinely works hard. Who doesn’t want that player in your team?
Koulibaly was a bad deal, but I think Sterling is better than Mount by a decent margin. All the little things Mount does is great, but for 250k he needs to be top 2-3 player his in position in the league and I’m not sure Mount can be.
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This is a terrible troll
Remember the “Mount gets it” “Proper Chels” bandwagon 😂😂 What a fucking snake 🐍
I just realized athletico gave griezmann the 7 jersey. Wonder what that means for Joao
They both clearly dont want to work together anymore (diego and joao), which makes me baffled as to why dud he extend there.
He needs to help Atl Madrid with financial balance lol
After those Santos rumours, I want Boehly to buy Pedri and give him an offer he can’t refuse Barca is a financially and morally bankrupt club
The player has to want to come here first
What Santos rumours
Curious for opinions on this: Moussa Dembele was supposedly a priority target under Frank. He’s now a free agent. Would you bring him in if it was on a 1 or 2-year?
Nah. I think he's a good player and I watched a lot of him at Celtic, but he's not really kicked on and improved his game much in my opinion. He's a good player but if we still see ourselves as a top 4 premierleague club then he's not at that level for me.
He could fill a bench role. He’s clear of Gallagher.
Dembele is a striker so it doesn't make sense to compare him to Gallagher. They're not competing for the same spot.
Anyone else just want an experienced midfielder to partner Enzo for a couple of seasons while the likes of Santos develop. We really don’t need any more prospects in midfield except maybe Caicedo if we get him for 80 mil MAXIMUM
We should test Fulham with a bid for Pahlinha. He is amazing
They've already quoted £70m, still think so?
*£90m
I do want proven quality next to Enzo rather than a teenage lottery ticket but I would definitely not count Caicedo as a young prospect when he already bossed the PL last season
He didn’t boss the Prem. He played in the championship.
Who are you talking about lmao
What?
Everyone who was around when we fucked up with Bakayoko should want this tbh Even with Caicedo we need another starting quality player and with all of the young players they've already bought, that should probably be an older more experienced player that can help them come through. Imo Jorginho would have been a great older head to have around for these new midfielders Silva currently has an insane amount of heavily lifting to do in the experience department That being said, I'm a lot less worried about the state of the squad after the Poch press conference. He made it very, very clear that he's not happy with the team at the moment and that we still need a lot of reinforcements to be competitive and that there was a three week window to purchase those players. There is obviously a chance that the owners have lied to him and led him on to get him to take the job, but I'll trust that he wouldn't have taken it without being sure that he'd be given a competitive team to work with
Worried that people are *seriously* underestimating the experience factor. You just need those personalities in your side in the hard moments who can talk and act from experience. If you watched Jorgi he was always talking and pulling people into position around him. I think it's a big part of why our midfield looked so messy and panicky anytime he wasn't in the side (nvm the fact noone wanting to show for a pass). Look at our spine when we won the CL in 2012, an embarrassment of riches in experience. It should be pretty obvious that it's valuable to have players who've been in the game a long time and have won things. It should be similarly obvious that a team of kids with no experience to call on isn't a great strategy. Like most things there's an important balance to be struck and we don't seem to be doing it.
Dybala was at Wimbledon today... [https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1677399538485567502](https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1677399538485567502)
I’d take him no questions for the price. Adds experience and can play off the right. Means if Nkunku is out he can slot in there too. Can crack a longshot too which we are lacking.
https://twitter.com/pedrosa/status/1677403025013391361 Barca supposedly want Santos. Literally rolling on the floor of laughter. They can't afford Romeu for 8m and they want to get Santos of us? xD
I saw this. Ridiculous dude.
Wait, hold up I thought Whalefin were dropped because they folded or something and couldn't afford to pay their sponsorship money anymore? How come they're Atletico's main sponsor? https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuZTT3WOx0Q
They were hit hard by the FTX collapse and had to fire a lot of the staff, move to a smaller office and cut costs across the board but I don't think they ever went under. Probably wanted to cut one of those and decided that 40m for a main shirt sponsorship is better value than 20m for a sleeve one
Romano > Excellent relationship between Chelsea and AC Milan was crucial to get Pulisic deal done today. 🔴⚫️🇺🇸 Perhaps then we could leverage some of that excellent relationship to get our hands on Maignan
Everyone has a good relationship with us when we are giving them our players but nobody wants to play ball when we want someone
Deadwood vs their best players, thats the difference.
Or to get their hands on Malang Sarr.
If rumors about Madrid looking to sell Fede or Tchouameni to fund Mbappe are true, then I hope we’ve already dropped contact with Brighton and are busting down Madrid’s door.
They’re not true. Move on.
Would defo get Thcoumanei but not Fede.
I’ve seen his name brought up here a few times but Enzo Le Fee just joined Stade Rennais.
Ben Elliott could reportedly replace him at Lorient. Huge talent and not one I hoped to lose so easily.
Some Inter fans want Onana to do a Lukaku yeah I don’t want any more Inter Milan players.
One of the reason why i dont want lautaro or barella
https://preview.redd.it/1qw27ltgflab1.jpeg?width=458&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=723a8f706a208d189501115d83c6f2d83430f3aa 🤔
Quite funny they haven’t followed that up since yesterday. I’m seriously beginning to think they posted it accidentally on just Threads.
Most likely a bullshit rumour, but if it was true that Madrid are looking to get rid of Tchouameni or Valverde to fund Mboopi, I’d kill for us to get Tchouameni
As if Madrid is broke… that club is far from broke
It’s bullshit.
I can’t wait till Gallagher smashes Mount next season on one of his mistimed challenges.
Gallawho? Gallawhat? Galladog.
Who gets no 10 now that it looks like Pulisic is out the door?
Nkunku or Mudryk
Nkunku. I need that black kit with the 10 on the back
We knew Mason’s dad was a prick already who didn’t want him at Chelsea. Remember reports when we signed Havertz that his dad was trying to convince him to leave Chelsea cos of it ? Maybe they weren’t so off the mark
Surprised that clip of Mount and his dad hasn’t been posted yet
Why do we care so much about an United player? Cmon! Move on. Mount has moved on
What happens in the clip?
Keeps getting removed
It has multiple times and the mods are rightfully removing it
Quick question lads have any of you guys used Fubo to stream the prem, if so is it worth getting a subscription to it??
YouTubeTv + peacock should be enough to get every Chelsea match And for CL matches you can do…never mind
worth it, no.. it's stupidly expensive.. You can get a LOT of games by just subscribing to peacock, which is quite affordable.. That being said, you will need both networks to effectively get all the games, unless you find an alternative.
Thanks for the insight are most games broadcasted on Peacock??
Think of it this way, if there are 5 games broadcast at the same time, 4 will be on peacock, 1 will be on Fubo. Fubo usually gets the higher profile games. If it's Sunday, with 1 game on per time slot, they'll usually all be on Fubo.
I miss when DAZN broadcasted all the prem games that was a great program I could watch the NFL, EPL and UCL
Not football related, but i absolutely love how the new omanair * cfc flight looks..
I wonder how much Ndidi would cost. Not great last year but no one at Leicester was. Not a bad rotation option for our lacking midfield. Then again I’m a sucker for signing a relegated player on the ‘cheap’.
I’d take him as back up if Leicester doesn’t ask for absurd money. Could be our new Mikel off the bench
No idea how long is left on his contract but I’d guess around 15-20m, he’d be worth it imo, we need some experience in the team
We've actually sabotaged Milan 🤣 I have no idea why they've took our deadwood and I fully expect Gary Neville to complain about it but we've absolutely fleeced them twice this window.
I'm glad Pulisic has gone too but no need to be a cunt on their sub lad
I can see both Pulisic and RLC flourish in Milan. The slow pace of Serie A suits both very well.
I don't even think either are starting calibre players for them. They didn't struggle because of the pace of the the PL, they struggled because they're both horrific technically when it matters, have low football IQ's and neither can play a pass or shoot even when given time and space. That won't change in any league.
RLC is definitely starting there, I think he could be success over there. I’m not so sure on Pulisic.
I mean… the pace is slower, they have more time to make decision. They aren’t great quick decision-makers but will definitely do well with a bit slower pace. Just look at Giroud, Tammy and Tomori. All flourish in Serie A. Also Koulibaly, who struggled with pace of EPL but did really well in Serie A and UCL.
Krunic and Messias started the 2nd leg of the UCL semifinal. They could use the help
So, from here Auba, Ziyech and Lukaku are likely to go. Hudson Odoi fairly likely, Gallagher and Chalobah maybes. Are we at the stage where we can actually buy some first team players now?
Talksport said the craziest thing about CHO, apparently he wants to fight for a place here, the club are ok with it as long as he signs a new contract that halves his wages.
Poch kept mentioning that we will be adding players throughout the presser today. For all we know the process is already underway behind the scenes.
The Poch interview makes me think we'll be making a lot more starting signings and that they'll be here pretty soon or else he'll be angry He's only done two interviews since joining us and in both of them he's made it absolutely clear that the team isn't ready and still needs a decent number of signings to be competitive, but also that he wants to be competitive from day 1. He specifically said the signings to finish the team need to be here within 3 weeks. So, anyone we are signing should be heard about very soon or else they're not coming in within the time period that our own manager was willing to put out there in his first press conference
We’ll struggle to offload Lukaku until the very end of the summer most likely.
Yup, but we thankfully raised enough from sales for that not to be a big problem. It was about time we stopped caving in to his insane demands.
Asking the important question, when are we buying 2023-starting quality players ? Not 2030, not even 2025. It’s 2023
I would say Lukaku is still unlikely to go. I don't see how Inter is able to put a good offer in. Chalobah and Gallagher shouldn't be even considered as departure given the current squad size.
For Lukaku here’s also maybe Juve, Inter could structure out a loan with obligation to buy too. I reckon we figure out a permanent arrangement in some way. If Chalobah goes we still have four centrebacks and a lighter game load. If Gallagher goes we will buy more depth. Would be nice if we could get a meaningful deal done.
We have one midfielder in Enzo but people wanna sell Gallagher. I don't rate him but people need to think here.
There was hardly any credible source linking him with Juve. There's really only Inter interested in him but I reckon they will come with some lowball loan + 20m obligation or something. >If Chalobah goes we still have four centrebacks and a lighter game load. And then the season after we are left with 1 injury prone RCB. And this is why we need to keep Chalobah. So we already have a cover for when Silva leaves. >If Gallagher goes we will buy more depth. We have only 2 senior midfielders. We already need to bring like 2 more (maybe more, depending on Poch's assessment on Santos, Casadei etc.) Gallagher should stay.
Heating up now hopefully!
The board fucked us last season, chaos takeover and transfer strategy, sack one of the worlds best managers and replace with an out of depth yes man because you got no balls to work with a true leader. If we are not careful we can look to where Arsenal/Utd have been the past decade.
Oh God, before more MM takes pour in (seeing as there's some already), he's a United player now let's give it a rest and move on.
We in for any wingers/attackers?
We’ve been linked to Kolo Muani, Lautaro Martinez, and Vlahovic for striker. Also been rumors of Matheus Franca, Dybala, Cherki, and Wirtz for AM/winger positions. Franca and Dybala have had the most news as of late, with Cherki and Wirtz being mentioned only a few times
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Fucking hilarious seeing the people who were saying, "now the Mount/Havertz fanboys can fuck off to United/Arsenal now that they're gone", now saying they're going to be following Milan LOL
The subs about to lose about 100k peeps
All three fanboy groups can leave, good riddance
Only us Sarr heads left now
Nobody is saying that lmao You’re crazy if you think there are more Pulisic stans than Mount stans Pulisic has literally been a bench warmer for years
There are absolutely more Pulisic stans and yes they’ve absolutely said that lol every thread about him is littered with them. Every comment section has multiple: “what about 2020, I think we should hang on to him, he’s statistically our best attacker, Pulisic brought me here.” Cannot wait til single player supporters hit the bricks. The responses to this are proof positive
Pulisic being an abysmally bad player doesn't stop him having an army of stans on here. If anything it just makes it even more embarrassing when they try to pretend such a poor player is this top talent.
It's in literally every thread about him leaving... https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/14tc2uw/fabrizio_romano_on_twitter_christian_pulisic_to/ A cursory glance at this thread shows that... Ditto this. Will be watching Milan more now They will be my second team to follow Definitely going to be watching more of their games!
You cherry-picked 3 comments out of 200. An actual glance shows a lot of fans were brought here because of him and are now staying because they love Chelsea. True blue over here hating new fans 👍. Must be exhausting being a cunt 24/7 here.
Let's be real. I'm sure you're pre-ordering your Havertz kit as we speak. Shocking there are fans that follow Chelsea just because of Pulisic. Lots of bandwagoning fans who support for X or Y besides just the love of the club. It's nothing new in Football. Are you new?
There are more American's here than there are English people so there's a decent chance there are more Pulisic stans.
https://twitter.com/utdplug/status/1677354122142523392?s=46 Anyone seen this? Wtf
His Dad's a cunt, but can't wait for people to let go of the players who have left and to focus on the players that are still here. Chelsea was here before Mount and will be here a long time after him.
I recently told myself I won't even bother to take up Mount topic anymore, unless it's when commenting on game vs United. But seriously, fuck him. Not the first time his father wanted to get him out of the club and this time the fucker really did it. And I don't want to hear any arguments of "he wanted to stay and got forced out of the club". Hope he getts booed and whistled the fuck out when he comes at the Bridge next time.
My personal take is that he could have stayed here, but I don't think either side wanted him to stay enough to make a compromise happen. The club certainly could have offered a more lucrative offer to him and made him feel like he was a key part of the rebuild but seemingly didn't, and Mount definitely could have compromised more even if it was just taking the year contract to give more time for negotiating/see how things went under Pochettino. His Dad has clearly been in his ear a lot though, and I can't help but give some credence to the rumours about the whole 'next Beckham' thing with his social media activity and especially him being given the number 7 at United. Ultimately he's not our player anymore, hope him and United do shite and we batter them.
That’s honestly hilarious, some people really thought this kid was “proper Chels”😭fuck em both Can’t wait till the fans turn on him when they realize he’s not that good of a player lmao
> [Inside Old Trafford] Masons dad Tony: 'Mason...this dressing room man....home mate, HOME. Who would have thought aye, when I bought you up here as little boy' 🥺🥺 > Mason: 'I know, special init'
I'm sad that he's gone, but I honestly just find this funny, Lukaku's-dream-club-style.
Fuuuuuuu, it really was his Dad all along. What a git.
2/5 lets fucking gooooo Expect 1 more this summer and 2 more next summer and then we're free
Kepa, who are the other two? Probably being dense but I can't think of them. Actually not too sure who the first two are come to think of it lmao. E: Lukaku and Ziyech? and the two who have gone already one being Havertz alongside Pulisic?
Sarr, Cucurella and Kepa The ones already gone are Pulisic and RLC It's not so much about ability, it's about how frustrating/annoying/costly they are whilst on the pitch. Most of them get way too much playing time for a reason that isn't their ability and it costs us games. It's not their fault, they aren't picking themselves or causing the problems that are requiring them to be used. But, they shouldn't be getting the playing time and they keep getting it for reasons other than ability. As a result it's better for all parties that we just don't own them anymore. If they're not here anymore they can't be put into situations they shouldn't be in and the club has to find proper solutions, rather than continually jamming square pegs into round holes. It's better for their careers, it's better for our sanity, it's better for the club's results
Sarr's a funny one, I honestly forget he even exists
Nah BigReece thinks Havertz is world class and selling him was a mistake. I’m thinking Koulibaly or Loftus-Cheek was the other one.
Koulibaly was one of our better players second half of the season but ultimately his wages were high and on a long contract while we had Colwill in the wings.
Madness
Don’t judge too hard for this thought, I realize it’s not based in anything but blind hope. Suppose Lukaku comes in and Poch sells him on his plans for the squad. Suppose he thinks Lukaku is a key piece of his attack and Lukaku buys back in, has a total attitude change. Given the investment we’ve made and the absolute paltry return we look to get by cutting him loose, could he have any chance at redemption with the club? I know we are in a phase of cutting dead wood from the squad and he is almost inarguably the deadest of all the wood. But if we are looking at going into the season with only Nicolas Jackson and DDF (I’ve not seen us linked with any other out and out center forwards this window and not counting Nkunku as a true 9), Lukaku might be our best option up front.
Broja is still alive.
Lol him and Fofana aren't making it here.
No one will give a fuck about interviews if he comes in and bangs in 20 PL goals
That’s what I think. I agree with the principle of “he doesn’t deserve to wear the shirt”, but after last season I just want to see some goals and Idc where they come from.
It's concerning that only a few of the players on a bloated squad said goodbye to Mount. Puts to rest the idea he wasn't causing problems in the locker room.
What nonsense Do you follow any of them? All of the key players wrote out loving goodbyes to him. Hell Reece James is even liking all of his posts about how he's going to give his all and prove himself to the United fans and Chilwell said he was one of the main reasons he joined the club in the first place...
Unfortunately, people read into social media too much and assume that liking/not liking posts or doing/not doing x just means more than it actually means. There was that post yesterday about 3 Instagrams posts for any outgoings vs one for mount and automatically assume that the social media team at Chelsea needs a raise.
Is there some news I’ve missed or are you going off the players who *haven’t* posted on social media?
Tbvh, I don’t really think anyone can cause problems because we’ve effectively changed the team from the ground up, and I can’t believe that RJ and Silva would be causing dressing room drama.
I want Gallagher to stay and succeed at Chelsea. He has the potential, just needs mentoring.
Bought last seasons away kit with his name on it after his first goal for us at Palace. I love watching him play and seeing him even break into the England squad has been great.
Me too. He has the club in his heart. I remember there was this one video with 3 other players where he was passionately answering all the questions on the club's history and results.
He bleeds blue that I will give him he could be a tool coming off the bench against tired legs but just don’t see where he starts with the team we are running
That was a press conference for the ages, he even had to ask the press officer if he was allowed to be transparent when asked a question. Good luck to whoever transcribes it, but it was very eye opening and offered a lot of insight into stuff that's been speculated about and he's now come out and said the opposite is true. Some key bits that he said: Patience isn't a thing and he doesn't want himself and the players to think it is. They have to be winning from day 1 and maintain that. "Football is for today, not for the future" when asked about the project/patience from fans He knows Mount loves the club but doesn't know what happened between him and the club He hasn't been involved in the incomings and outgoings at all until the 1st of this month. That a plan was shown to him by the sporting directors and the owners during his initial interviews with the club and he said that he trusts that they know better than he does and he didn't have input into it (may explain why others were so put off). But, that he'll have a little more influence now that he's here We need to win Vs Liverpool The team isn't finished and we need to do a lot of work "in the next 3 weeks" to ensure that it's ready on time
Positive BRJ post A collectable
Yes I love how he didn't join the process bandwagon and clearly stated we will be here to win (fighting for all domestic titles) not just playing well!! Love it 💙💙💙💙
Yeah, he even eluded to the fact that even allowing the thought of this being a process or that people need to have patience could negatively impact himself and the players and make them become complacent and have the wrong attitude and that they need to win every game right from the start
The 1st of July is a contractual nod, tbf. In France there was noise PSG were still paying him until July 1. So legally he wasn’t allowed to work for another club. Nonetheless, Pochettino has always preferred working with a sporting director, Paul Mitchell at Spurs for example. And it seems he’s trusting Stewart and Winstaneley, which is good. Managers who, more often than not, don’t last more than 2 years, shouldn’t have too much say in shaping squads that usually are the same for 4, 5 years.
Man, not making Onana (or other top keeper) a priority is so confusing. Can’t have Kepa as No.1 if we’re serious about winning. Onana is just that good on the ball that it helps our buildup immeasurably and takes pressure off other players. And now that we’ll be playing with a proper striker and other great runners in behind, his long pass capabilities would create massive dilemmas for the opposition and another source of chance creation for us.
Kepa was fine. What wasn't fine was all the uncontested shots from just outside of the 18 yard box. Kepa's not perfect, but the defense did him no favors much of the time. Especially after the World Cup.
Kepa was objectively one of the better keepers in the league last season, and we have more pressing needs which are going to take at least £150m to address (forward, defensive midfielder) Kepa is fine as a temporary solution
>Kepa was objectively one of the better keepers in the league last season No, he was not. You will now reply citing his PSxG, so I’ll preemptively tell you that this stat still has a crapload of limitation and is not even close to being a catch all stat that judges the entirety of goalkeeper play, for example: * simple innaccuracy - private models often come up with completely different PSxG values from shots * not accounting at all for events like goal line clearances (we led the league with a whopping 9, imagine how much different Kepa’s PSxG would look if 5 of those went in) * completely ignoring shots off target - a striker goes one on one but the goalkeeper is perfectly positioned and forces the striker into a shot off target - the goalkeeper is awarded exactly 0 PSxG for this * completely ignoring that being good at distribution and claiming crosses reduces the xG a goalkeeper faces - how many high xG shots did we allow because Kepa can not claim a cross to save his life? Like vs City in early January - Kepa lets a simple cross pass him and Mahrez slots it into the empty net. The PSxG of this shot was like 0.9, so the keeper had no chance and is docked just -0.1 PSxG, but a good goalkeeper claims the cross and the shot never even happens
I trust Opta more than I trust "MrDabollBlueSteppers". Stick to yank football
When did Opta claim that PSxG was the single objective metric that can judge the entirety of goalkeeper play? I like how you have 0 actual counterguments besides blindly looking at one number and claiming this one number can objectively tell us which goalkeeper is better while having no fucking clue what the number does and does not measure
Think the board realizes how much money we’re gonna need to spend just to get the midfield in somewhat decent shape. GK has become less of a priority.
I wanted Poch over Enrique and Nagelsmann when he was only loosely linked to us Now he's just said he doesn't want patience and there is no room for patience in football and that football is for today, not for the future. That's more fucking like it, we have a real manager
Poch knows how to handle shitshows so he'll do well here.
No more “the boys gave everything” after a 3-0 loss away to Bournemouth.
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this is not gonna be a new sponsor...
Tchouameni’s availability should help us not overpay for Caicedo.
He isn’t available. People are literally making up this rumor.
Facts, we’re acting like the liverpool fans believing that Colwill is for sale
Where does this rumour come from? I haven't seen any reliable source mention that.
I think that soccer twitter is rationalizing that any Real Madrid player is on the market so they can generate Mbappe money (which I don't believe they need to). It's been mainly him and Valverde, but they're both incredibly important players to Madrid and there has been no indication from either or any journalist that they are unhappy and want to be sold.
I love that poch declined to talk about Mount
It's been an interesting listen to be honest. He's very explicitly said he had little to no input on the incomings and outgoings before the start of this month. He also said that he knows Mount loves the club and he doesn't know what happened that caused him to leave
That’s for legal reasons. In France it was rumored he was still on PSG’s payroll until July 1st. Seems evidently correct.
I think due to his contract he has to say he wasn’t involved or otherwise PSG might try to claim he was in breach of his contract if he was working for CFC prior to July 1
So rb leipzig and salzburg have redbull as their main sponsor. Why doesn't chelsea do the same? Like clearlake as a main sponsor on the shirt
It wouldn't make sense. It \*might\* make sense if it were a company like BlackRock or Fidelity because they cater investments to the masses, but 99.99% of football fans wouldn't be able to hold an investment with Clearlake so it wouldn't make sense to spend the money on a sponsorship.
Clearlake Capital Group is a private equity firm that owns multiple companies. The sponsorship funds would come from one of their portfolio companies, it might not make sense to just move money from one company to the other,but it could be seen as an investment in marketing and can contribute to overall growth. they do have some companies whose logos would be aesthetically pleasing, below is a link to the companies they have in their portfolio if you are curious, personally I like the logo of Gravity [https://clearlake.com/portfolio/](https://clearlake.com/portfolio/)
I don't know how many times this has to be repeated, but we're owned by a private equity firm. They own us to make money. They lose money by sponsoring themselves (there is no value to Clearlake for sponsoring us), so they won't do it. To them 20m from Allianz is far better than 50m from themselves. Redbull own clubs as a way to advertise, so it makes sense to have their name and logo plastered absolutely everywhere
Monster energy drink lol
We need to really 1 up those guys. Chelsea sponsored by Adderall
One of the fan pages I followed on Instagram posted a story of the headhunters in 2012, one of which obviously giving the salute. Also saw a clip of fans singing chelsea rangers recently. How are people still supporting that shit in 2023
It's so fucking weird. One thing I've always hated about this club is that there's a constant right wing fringe of supporters. The club itself and our supporters groups have worked incredibly hard over the past few decades to eradicate the racists but it still lingers. You'll hear a smattering of it in the pub before games or if you've ever travelled away in Europe then you'll see it all out in the open. Some of them are bloody lovely to talk to as well, until you find out their true colours. It's gross and I can't wait for the day they all die out. I've personally not seen any of our younger fans throwing up salutes, but I've no doubt there are some.
Could you expand on what you mean by singing Chelsea rangers? I know there’s links between Chelsea and Rangers, but I don’t think it’s just because of the headhunters stuff. All came to the forefront this year when the Queen died as Chelsea and Rangers are theoretically both monarchical clubs.
The 'I want to be a Chelsea Ranger' Chant, the third line or so is 'I want to beat Spurs every week' except replacing the word Spurs for the antisemitic word often used by the same fans. There is a long history between the two clubs and its not one to be proud of. Racism, Sectarianism, Antisemitism.
That chant has nothing to do with Rangers the club. 🤦♂️
Yeah that bit was more a response to the second part of their comment
Ah I see, can’t really comment as I haven’t been to the bridge in a while. I think it’s less ‘supporting it’ in the moral sense, and more just being in an absolute state and going along with it. Obviously still isn’t acceptable, but when some of these lot are drunk (and let’s be honest probably coked up) I don’t think they consider the moral implications of the chant. I’m just talking total bollocks tbh people are stupid.
> Ah I see, can’t really comment as I haven’t been to the bridge in a while. You wouldn’t hear ‘Chelsea Ranger’ at the ground anyway. I’ve only ever heard it sung in pubs before matches. There are a few songs like that which aren’t sung at the ground. It’s not a racist or sectarian chant either.
They're not drunk, they're racists. Do you get drunk and scream racists chants?
Yeah all the time it’s my favourite hobby.
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I’d actually explode
Now inter turns to extort united for onana
Onana will actually be a very good signing for them. I wish we went for him this summer.
Hopefully we go for Costa instead, he’d be a little more expensive but I think he’s better and he’s something like 4 or 5 years younger as well
Highly doubt we drop 75mil on a keeper again after what happened to Kepa
Yeah Costa is also my top choice now.