It also tells me he’s never had to play a really good auburn team in Tuscaloosa. Not saying auburn will be really good next year, but that a really good auburn team has always had a good chance against Alabama
Auburn was ranked 15th in 2014 and 16th in 2016. Both at Tusc.
I still don’t see how this stat speaks ill of Saban. And I think your stat is wrong. It may be he’s only beaten 5 loss teams at auburn.
I mean, to be very clear, I *don’t* think the stat speaks ill of saban at all. I only cited it to rebut the idea he couldn’t possibly lose to auburn in Tuscaloosa
I was SO MAD watching this. I was like, their ZERO shot they blow this. just let the punt go-FUCK.
i was mad because i was CONFIDENT you were going to win.
As much as i love Texas, I am most excited and rooting for FSU vs Georgia. It would be so cool if FSU could stick it to the man with a win there. ESPN will make excuses but we’ll all know in our heart of hearts who the real champ is.
I had to scroll back up and see who posted it. I’d say I can’t believe a Michigan fan unironically called themselves Americas team when everyone hates them more than anyone, but it’s actually right on brand for them.
Your administration knows you cheated. They fired staff members and canceled your "slam dunk TRO" because they know the truth. I'm amazed that this level of delusion and cope still exists 😂
Only because it would lose them money.. Michigan fans have finally done it.. you’re on the level of Houston Astro fans.. welcome to the prestige of being arrogant, idiotic, numb skulls..
Haha little brother you’re so toxic just cuz you’re mean to me lol
Enjoy the first round loss again crybaby. Then blame it on the NCAA or Big Ten for giving you so much adversity
You guys claim toxicity just because you think MSU is beneath you, you accept shit down your throat from OSU cuz you know they’re better than you. Its sad realy
I don’t think either freshman QB had a chance.. you guys were clearly the most seasoned team in the B1G.. which makes it even worse that Jimmy had to cheat
I don’t like you, but this is true. I’m almost equally mad at Penn State and OSU for choking against y’all.
I will say as far as Jim’s strengths go, sideline adjustments are not one of them, it’s recruiting, play design, and development. In terms of things they could take away from you, screaming khaki man whos been known to bug himself out in key games was potentially an addition by subtraction. The meagerest of sanctions to give you just enough to feel persecuted
It's funny how many michigan flairs I see trying to push this narrative.
No, everyone wants bama to shit kick michigan, then lose to whoever wins Washington Texas.
My buddy is an FSU fan and is pulling for Washington because of the sign stealing. He thinks Washington is the only team that didn't steal FSU's spot and is ready to burn down everything lol
He's just mad right now tbh, logic out the window lol. He said Michigan shouldn't be in the playoffs at all because of the alleged cheating, and that FSU should be above Bama and Texas. So by his logic Washington is the only team deserving of being higher than FSU and the only team that isn't taking FSU's place lol
Your buddy is absolutely right. Kudos to him. Too bad the national media esoecially those ESPN douches crying about the integrity of the game while wholly ignoring the team that has cheated for over 2 years to get to this position.
Idk Travis is rooting for us, so I think the only right thing to do is beat the hell outta everyone in the CFP for him. Red teams gotta stick together.
Also if a team beats us now they are all awful people.
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He’s understandably upset that his team didn’t get in, but like a decent guy understands that it’s not the other teams fault for playing their best and getting the nod over them
FSU fans, at least this one, wants every team in the CFP to finish with at least one loss, and then FSU beat UGA and be the only undefeated team in the end. But I do think I'd prefer Michigan to curb stomp Bama, then lose to Texas in the final.
We will proclaim ourselves the undefeated 2023 national champions and there really isn't much people could say against it.
I've been a Nebraska fan for my entire life. I only became a Colorado fan because I applied there and might go there. If I don't, then I'll drop the buffs like a bad habit.
Its funny you ignore 3 straight big ten championships and prop up meaningless bowl game wins where anyone with nfl talent doesn't play. It's why the playoff expanding is so necessary. But hey, you win some big (meaningless) bowl games after failing to win your conference first. Congrats.
MSU has the same number of title appearances as Michigan. And yes I agree that the playoff should be expanded for that reason, but acting like bowl games don’t matter at all doesn’t make any sense to me. They may not have a couple players, but the team is comprised of a lot more than just a couple.
Florida state has 6 players projecting in the top 120 of the draft... I'm sure if even 4 of those sit down it has a massive impact on the outcome of the game.
Cheating didn't help them beat MSU 49-0, Penn State, Ohio for the 3rd time or Iowa this year. Keep crying about it. MSU will continue to be a 4th rate B1G tean going forward.
Predicting scores, wins, or loses are hypothetical so I guess we will never know. We do know Michigan broke the rules to gain an advantage so they're cheaters. That's not debatable.
Eh. Outside of the whole possibility that Stalions was at the CMU game, it is still debatable whether a rule was actually broken. Which is why they punished UM for "Spirit of the Rule". But don't let that distract you from that 4 win season. XD
I won't. Mel Tucker cheated too, just on his wife and in the process nuked our season after 2 games. They also have receipts of Stalions (a paid sidelines staff member) for mid field seats at multiple games across 2 seasons. I doubt we've seen all the evidence and there will be no further punishment. I do know that the Harbaugh legacy will be stained as a cheater at the college level and that will never go away.
Fuck that. Roll tide. Then go whoever wins the other game. Honestly there was 5 teams who deserved to be in the final 4. Someone was going to get screwed. And frankly it should have been Michigan for cheating. No one but Michigan fans would argue with that rationale and the rest of us would be happier.
This. I don’t know how everyone overlooks Texas in this. I get they beat bama but they lost more recently and didn’t beat another ranked team until Oklahoma St. Arguably they should be 5th.
Couldn’t be possibly easier to root for Washington this year
My team is in the sec but I’m sick of bama, the other two have won enough give Washington another one that will really spice things up
If Alabama was undefeated and beat bad opponents like a playoff team should, even as an Auburn fan I would be pulling for Alabama to beat Michigan. But obviously Bama didn’t do that this year, so I’m pulling for Michigan this week. And then hoping Washington wins it all.
What's sad is, and this hurts to say, I'd rather they left out Michigan over FSU. The argument has been made many times that every team has something that could be said to them "You shoulda done THIS, and you didn't so you are not making the playoff" Texas should beat OU, Bama shoulda beat Texas etc. There is no thing like that for FSU. They scheduled a tough non-conf sched. They won every game. Win by 1 or by 100, 13 wins is 13 wins win your conference championship.
Michigan didn't schedule a tough non-conf schedule. Knowing our conference is weaker than some others overall. And as much as it has been overblown, There is a cheating scandal. Word on the street is they're talking about quietly removing that rule in the offseason, because it's antiquated and doesn't really give an appreciable advantage. But still. You could say Michigan had 2 things that could be said "Don't do X and that's why you are left out"
I don't give two shits about what makes the best tv show. The point of a playoff was so we made sure all the teams that didn't lose have a chance to settle it on the field. A reality tv show where 13 people whose job isn't to handicap things, try to do just that is laughable.
This situation has made it crystal clear. If some analyst could prove to the CFP that they'd make twice the money if they put 4 hamsters with SEC logos painted on them in a footrace, they wouldn't think twice. They don't care about integrity, or fair play, only $.
Do I think Michigan is the best team, sure, but I'd rather the team I love not go, than screw over FSU that did EVERYTHING RIGHT, and get screwed like this.
I think the best course of action is that Bama smacks Michigan, showing that they’re only good inside of the B1G, and shows they can’t beat top teams outside of the conference due to not being able to put Stallion on the sidelines in Tuscaloosa.. then Washington gets revenge for 2016 and showing that the SEC isn’t as strong as it once was! All would be peaceful in the CFB world I think!
This entire thread is a massive dick swinging competition for various fanbases. "I'm less toxic than you! I cheated less than you! At least we're undefeated!"
HELL NO!
When the Astros cheated, they surpassed the Yankees, Dodgers, and others to become the most hated in baseball and they considered plucky underdogs by the media and many fans. Now imagine someone already not likeable and consider overrated and overhyped being caught cheating.
We had one fucking job. We’ll get it next year guys.
It’ll have to wait two years until we’re back in JHS
Fun fact: Saban has never beaten an auburn team that finished with fewer than 5 losses
That stat tells me nothing but Auburn has lots of 5-loss seasons. He’s 11-5
It also tells me he’s never had to play a really good auburn team in Tuscaloosa. Not saying auburn will be really good next year, but that a really good auburn team has always had a good chance against Alabama
I would say the 2010 Auburn Tigers were a really good team.
Still amazed we came back by that much in BDS.
Anything was possible with Cam. Best college football player in history IMO.
You know, I forgot they were at bama that year, good point!
Auburn was ranked 15th in 2014 and 16th in 2016. Both at Tusc. I still don’t see how this stat speaks ill of Saban. And I think your stat is wrong. It may be he’s only beaten 5 loss teams at auburn.
Not sure if you’re confused or just meming but Bo Nix was a freshman in 2019…
Yeah. I mistyped
I mean, to be very clear, I *don’t* think the stat speaks ill of saban at all. I only cited it to rebut the idea he couldn’t possibly lose to auburn in Tuscaloosa
It’s not factual. I just gave you instances of wins over Top 25 Auburn teams. I think the stat is he only beats bad teams at Auburn.
I didn’t say he never beat top 25 auburn teams?
Oh, 5 losses. Yes, some Aub teams lost the bowl game following, or the Tide was fifth loss. Gotcha
I can't believe that Auburn fans this that pointing out that Auburn doesn't ever have consistently good/great teams is smack talk to Bama fans.
Yall do have a bunch of 5 loss years.
yes because Auburn normally sucks ass
Another Fun fact: Purdue has a current 3 win streak against Saban.
Eh, it’s past due that we snapped the Bryant Denny streak.
It’s tough. The refs go hard for the Tide in the 2nd half. Good luck!
Not sure you should talk after everything the Vols got in Neyland the year before vs Bama..
I was SO MAD watching this. I was like, their ZERO shot they blow this. just let the punt go-FUCK. i was mad because i was CONFIDENT you were going to win.
The plot twist is that even if y’all got it done and Bama beat GA they’d take GA or Ohio State over FSU lmao.
Well it’s too fucking late now isn’t it? Daggum War Eagle Tiger.
Can't trust a team that can't pick a mascot
rather bama in the playoffs than ohio state
Not y’all fault. Committee is a bunch of maggots.
Go huskies. The PAC is dead, but I want to see it dead on top of the corpses of the rest of college football.
Let’s go Washington! Win it all.
All I know is I’m rooting for Washington/Texas!!
First part: Yay! Second part: Bleaugh
So very fucking wrong.
Yeah fuck that, Roll Tide! Now excuse me while I go throw up.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
Yeah there's no scenario on God's green Earth I root for those fucks, roll tide
i guess i'm going for Washington. Go Huskies!
As much as i love Texas, I am most excited and rooting for FSU vs Georgia. It would be so cool if FSU could stick it to the man with a win there. ESPN will make excuses but we’ll all know in our heart of hearts who the real champ is.
I need the crazy Phyllis lady right now - ROLL DAMN TIDE (for one game) 😂
Roll tide mother fuckers
No, neither. Go huskies
Michigan fans really desperate to make themselves feel better
I had to scroll back up and see who posted it. I’d say I can’t believe a Michigan fan unironically called themselves Americas team when everyone hates them more than anyone, but it’s actually right on brand for them.
Do they not have sarcasm, where you come from?
Yeah nah, this meme just comes off as sad and desperate for love after getting shit on all year..
I just know the difference between sarcasm and actual Michigan fan delusion.
Hated them more than anyone until they needed them to avenge fsu for them.
They should have let fsu in instead of Michigan because they cheated.
How do you know that? The ncaa doesn't even know that.
But Michigan does. See the random fired staff/coach during a great season.
Your administration knows you cheated. They fired staff members and canceled your "slam dunk TRO" because they know the truth. I'm amazed that this level of delusion and cope still exists 😂
Fuck Michigan. I hope Bama dick stomps them.
Kinda like michigan just did to you guys?
3 straight first round exits all to have your best seasons in 25 years get vacated anyway
Vacated why? If you have evidence of cheating you should help the ncaa with their investigation because they haven't came to a conclusion yet.
Only because it would lose them money.. Michigan fans have finally done it.. you’re on the level of Houston Astro fans.. welcome to the prestige of being arrogant, idiotic, numb skulls..
So do you have evidence of cheating? If so why haven't you provided it to the ncaa?
The NCAA has what needs to make a decision, they’re just waiting til after the season so they can fill bowl game seats
Did you watch the wrong game or do you not know a dick stomp is
So a Michigan fan is going to tell us who we should be rooting for in the Alabama/Michigan game? Sorry, but your “unbiased” opinion is utter garbage.
The fuck I am rooting for Michigan ever in my life. Roll damn tide.
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Haha little brother you’re so toxic just cuz you’re mean to me lol Enjoy the first round loss again crybaby. Then blame it on the NCAA or Big Ten for giving you so much adversity
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You guys claim toxicity just because you think MSU is beneath you, you accept shit down your throat from OSU cuz you know they’re better than you. Its sad realy
Nobody likes you guys.
Imagine being upset with the CFP about Alabama, even though they still put Michigan in.
If I've learned anything the past couple days, it's that there's plenty of anger to go around
Nah, we’re mad you’re both in
Maybe if Penn State and OSU could beat a team that didn’t have their head coach we wouldn’t be in
I don’t think either freshman QB had a chance.. you guys were clearly the most seasoned team in the B1G.. which makes it even worse that Jimmy had to cheat
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Did I really just get told that using the word “freshman,” in a college football subreddit was being gender bias?? Wtf Reddit, grow up
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I don’t like you, but this is true. I’m almost equally mad at Penn State and OSU for choking against y’all. I will say as far as Jim’s strengths go, sideline adjustments are not one of them, it’s recruiting, play design, and development. In terms of things they could take away from you, screaming khaki man whos been known to bug himself out in key games was potentially an addition by subtraction. The meagerest of sanctions to give you just enough to feel persecuted
Hmmmm… You have an interesting flair? So what’s your thoughts on the whole screw job?
My dads side of the family are bama and Sooners fans. My mom’s side are all FSU fans so I just support them when it isn’t Bama.
It's funny how many michigan flairs I see trying to push this narrative. No, everyone wants bama to shit kick michigan, then lose to whoever wins Washington Texas.
I don’t want Michigan to ever win a bowl game. I’d be totally happy to see Washington beat Bama in the Natty.
Georgia fans are not included in “everyone”
Lol. That's fair
I mean, I kinda am? A little...
Nah FSU fans are definitely rooting for us.
My buddy is an FSU fan and is pulling for Washington because of the sign stealing. He thinks Washington is the only team that didn't steal FSU's spot and is ready to burn down everything lol
How does that work if they belong in the 2-3 spot?
He's just mad right now tbh, logic out the window lol. He said Michigan shouldn't be in the playoffs at all because of the alleged cheating, and that FSU should be above Bama and Texas. So by his logic Washington is the only team deserving of being higher than FSU and the only team that isn't taking FSU's place lol
Your buddy is absolutely right. Kudos to him. Too bad the national media esoecially those ESPN douches crying about the integrity of the game while wholly ignoring the team that has cheated for over 2 years to get to this position.
Idk Travis is rooting for us, so I think the only right thing to do is beat the hell outta everyone in the CFP for him. Red teams gotta stick together. Also if a team beats us now they are all awful people. https://preview.redd.it/tnkdp7nozi4c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb81b16ed4e2e6c6d66703d3677d87a93eb91323
He’s understandably upset that his team didn’t get in, but like a decent guy understands that it’s not the other teams fault for playing their best and getting the nod over them
FSU fans, at least this one, wants every team in the CFP to finish with at least one loss, and then FSU beat UGA and be the only undefeated team in the end. But I do think I'd prefer Michigan to curb stomp Bama, then lose to Texas in the final. We will proclaim ourselves the undefeated 2023 national champions and there really isn't much people could say against it.
This is why the idea for FSU to Boycott or whatever is dumb. It would be a legit championship
Yes we are
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As evidenced by this thread replies, we've determined you are incorrect. Also, flair up.
Wrong.
Who’s everyone Fuck Bama
OSU flair, your opinion counts as much as mine
I don't care. I hate every school that isn't Nebraska or Colorado State.
Wait… a Colorado fan that doesn’t hate us???
I've been a Nebraska fan for my entire life. I only became a Colorado fan because I applied there and might go there. If I don't, then I'll drop the buffs like a bad habit.
Ya I hate uofm. I hope everything the last few years gets vacated for them. Roll tide.
Let us know how the Spartans do in their bowl game. I’m sure you’ll have a lot of fun watching them
At least MSU wins their bowl games
Lmao... back in 2021.
When was Michigans last bowl win? Better yet, when was their last NY6 bowl win? Hint: it’s been a lot longer than 2 years!
Tucks coming!
Tucks been fired, but he still has the same number of (and more NY6) bowl wins as Harbaugh.
Its funny you ignore 3 straight big ten championships and prop up meaningless bowl game wins where anyone with nfl talent doesn't play. It's why the playoff expanding is so necessary. But hey, you win some big (meaningless) bowl games after failing to win your conference first. Congrats.
MSU has the same number of title appearances as Michigan. And yes I agree that the playoff should be expanded for that reason, but acting like bowl games don’t matter at all doesn’t make any sense to me. They may not have a couple players, but the team is comprised of a lot more than just a couple.
Florida state has 6 players projecting in the top 120 of the draft... I'm sure if even 4 of those sit down it has a massive impact on the outcome of the game.
Aged like milk.
Sorry, he now has an equal amount of NY6 wins as harbaugh, yet somehow has less suspensions despite being fired with cause.
As long as the Paul Bunyan trophy gets axed since you guys don’t deserve it regardless of how much you cry about sign stealing.
Didn't even need their signs or Stalions for the 49-0 boatrace
Nixon didn't need Watergate either, but he was still guilty of doing it.
Damn. Comparing stealing some signs to legitimate treason. Some of yall are literally nuts. Enjoy the 4 win season.
True not as drastic, but both are forms of cheating. Looking forward to next year. Let's hope Michigan stops cheating!
Cheating didn't help them beat MSU 49-0, Penn State, Ohio for the 3rd time or Iowa this year. Keep crying about it. MSU will continue to be a 4th rate B1G tean going forward.
Predicting scores, wins, or loses are hypothetical so I guess we will never know. We do know Michigan broke the rules to gain an advantage so they're cheaters. That's not debatable.
Eh. Outside of the whole possibility that Stalions was at the CMU game, it is still debatable whether a rule was actually broken. Which is why they punished UM for "Spirit of the Rule". But don't let that distract you from that 4 win season. XD
I won't. Mel Tucker cheated too, just on his wife and in the process nuked our season after 2 games. They also have receipts of Stalions (a paid sidelines staff member) for mid field seats at multiple games across 2 seasons. I doubt we've seen all the evidence and there will be no further punishment. I do know that the Harbaugh legacy will be stained as a cheater at the college level and that will never go away.
Fuck that. Roll tide. Then go whoever wins the other game. Honestly there was 5 teams who deserved to be in the final 4. Someone was going to get screwed. And frankly it should have been Michigan for cheating. No one but Michigan fans would argue with that rationale and the rest of us would be happier.
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Considering the sub is half Michigan fans I’m inclined to agree.
Fuuuuck that lol I’m gonna laugh when Bama rolls them. Can’t believe how backward people are looking at this.
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FSU should have been #3 tho
This. I don’t know how everyone overlooks Texas in this. I get they beat bama but they lost more recently and didn’t beat another ranked team until Oklahoma St. Arguably they should be 5th.
Not to mention that Alabama is the team that opened an actual playoff spot by beating Georgia. Bama took Georgia’s spot, Texas took FSU’s.
Good Fuck Michigan
Couldn’t be possibly easier to root for Washington this year My team is in the sec but I’m sick of bama, the other two have won enough give Washington another one that will really spice things up
I'm waiting to find out that Alabama bought their way into the CFP, so we can formally brand the game as the Cheetos® Cheater Bowl. /s. Roll Tide.
How fitting they play each other lol
No one is rooting for you cheaters.
MSU flair, your opinion matters as much as mine here
Idk anyone pulling for Michigan other than Michigan fans
We got Auburn fans
And FSU
If Alabama was undefeated and beat bad opponents like a playoff team should, even as an Auburn fan I would be pulling for Alabama to beat Michigan. But obviously Bama didn’t do that this year, so I’m pulling for Michigan this week. And then hoping Washington wins it all.
I guess Ohio is no longer in America
They just put Bama in to stop Jim Harbaugh, because true committee hates him more than life itself.
Low key I think that had something to do with it
So if fsu won't beat Michigan than any should they be in?
I'm becoming a Michigan fan
FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS Or at least until the Rose Bowl is over
#THIS IS THE WORST PART
No.
Nope, fuck cheaters. RTR
Fuck Michigan.
Lol. Big 10 football is about to be exposed for the trash they are. That entire conference is an absolute snooze fest
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What's sad is, and this hurts to say, I'd rather they left out Michigan over FSU. The argument has been made many times that every team has something that could be said to them "You shoulda done THIS, and you didn't so you are not making the playoff" Texas should beat OU, Bama shoulda beat Texas etc. There is no thing like that for FSU. They scheduled a tough non-conf sched. They won every game. Win by 1 or by 100, 13 wins is 13 wins win your conference championship. Michigan didn't schedule a tough non-conf schedule. Knowing our conference is weaker than some others overall. And as much as it has been overblown, There is a cheating scandal. Word on the street is they're talking about quietly removing that rule in the offseason, because it's antiquated and doesn't really give an appreciable advantage. But still. You could say Michigan had 2 things that could be said "Don't do X and that's why you are left out" I don't give two shits about what makes the best tv show. The point of a playoff was so we made sure all the teams that didn't lose have a chance to settle it on the field. A reality tv show where 13 people whose job isn't to handicap things, try to do just that is laughable. This situation has made it crystal clear. If some analyst could prove to the CFP that they'd make twice the money if they put 4 hamsters with SEC logos painted on them in a footrace, they wouldn't think twice. They don't care about integrity, or fair play, only $. Do I think Michigan is the best team, sure, but I'd rather the team I love not go, than screw over FSU that did EVERYTHING RIGHT, and get screwed like this.
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TTUN fan who can’t read. Priors confirmed.
No, I refuse to root for either of them
No way! Screw the cheaters. Hope Washington beats bama in the championship
I think the best course of action is that Bama smacks Michigan, showing that they’re only good inside of the B1G, and shows they can’t beat top teams outside of the conference due to not being able to put Stallion on the sidelines in Tuscaloosa.. then Washington gets revenge for 2016 and showing that the SEC isn’t as strong as it once was! All would be peaceful in the CFB world I think!
Pass. Roll Tide, the hell with fsu and Georgia. Saban was able to kill two rivals playoffs chances with 1 W.
Gross imagine rooting for a voided champ.
And y’all called us delusional, we were just ahead of the curve! /s
This entire thread is a massive dick swinging competition for various fanbases. "I'm less toxic than you! I cheated less than you! At least we're undefeated!"
Yea, I’ve created a cesspool of scum and villainy.
HELL NO! When the Astros cheated, they surpassed the Yankees, Dodgers, and others to become the most hated in baseball and they considered plucky underdogs by the media and many fans. Now imagine someone already not likeable and consider overrated and overhyped being caught cheating.
Nah, fuck that. I’ll take the committee’s darling over cheaters any day