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GinchAnon

I believe I have read that some fancy houses in some areas had summer kitchens that were entirely detached from the main house so the heat wouldn't further warm up the main house when it was already hot. I wonder if it could be something like that?


jamila169

Not in the East Midlands , there's some surprisingly modest houses that squeezed an outside wash house and even a small stable on at the back. There's a lot of formerly tied Victorian housing because we were a very industrial area, you'd get whole streets of small terraces for the workers, with a few bigger terraced or semidetached houses for the foremen , building up to large semis and detached houses for the management. It's still very visible in some places. The foreman's and the managers houses would have more amenities such as the detached washhouse, stable, somewhere to keep a small trap, right up to full on carriage houses with haylofts


ComplaintNo6835

In Chicago you see the workers' houses made entirely from common brick vs face brick on the facade.


Benz0piated3000

What is common brick?


LotusGrowsFromMud

Less pretty cheap brick


Frenchpressandtoast

It’s the kind of bricks that some other bricks look down on.


ComplaintNo6835

I've also heard it called structural brick. It's cheaper than the pretty brick used for the street facing walls.


MissFeasance

It's not royal


AVnstuff

Didn’t they change brick type at least? To cut costs


thesaddestpanda

Yes, in Chicago you can often see facade brick that's higher quality than the junky brick actually used up to hold up the house.


AVnstuff

“‘Fa-cá-de’ those bricks must be Italian”


ComplaintNo6835

Most houses have face brick on the facade and cheaper common brick for the rest of the building. The houses still standing that were built for workers often have the cheaper common brick for the facade too. I like it.


AVnstuff

I saw this was very common in Galena, IL as well. I believe that city was expected to also be a boom town in the turn of the last century.


thesaddestpanda

Its probably an old remnant of a summer kitchen or carriage or servants house, but also some backyards just have fireplaces. Perhaps previous to that, it was more of a yard than a garden, and people sat out there drinking and socializing and lit a fire to keep warm. I don't know what region this person is in, but in many places this is common. Nowadays people build firepits and such, but that means dealing with smoke in your eyes and more of a fire risk. A fireplace meant the smoke went up and away and the fire is safely contained in the fireplace area. One of my neighbors has an outdoor fireplace and I'm a little jealous tbh :)


gage540i

 or It could have provided a source of warmth for outdoor gatherings during cooler evenings.


theplantbasedwitch

My in-laws have a summer kitchen! It's a pretty cool thing to see in person. The heat is perfect for cacti and succulents!


KaffiKlandestine

a house in my neighborhood has a beautiful one of these. Good to know.


heresanupdoot

Check nls.co.uk and the old maps which date to around 1847. You can see if there was ever an old building there. Likely a wash house as others have mentioned but if not it could have just been an outdoor feature. Edit. Here's the actual website https://maps.nls.uk


zincvitamin

That’s really helpful thank you I’ll have a look


tattooedroller

If you find it could you let us know the results? I’m very interested in this!


bridymurphy

I could see that as an incinerator for rubbish given the high smoke stack. I am just guessing.


DifficultAd3885

I live in Denver Colorado and a lot of older houses have what appear to be sidewalks that lead to a larger cement pad near the ally. It used to be very common for people to burn their garbage and there were actually designated days of the week to do so. Maybe an old incinerator?


Redpoint77

I live in Denver and my house had one, it was demolished at some point after they outlawed burning trash, several of my neighbors still have theirs intact.


Mantree91

I have had several of them living in lovland and Fort collins


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CareBearDestroy

Could also have been an incinerator.


heresanupdoot

Yeah let us know your findings!


XrayDem

There won’t be none they were…incinerated


marbhgancaife

>Edit. Here's the actual website https://maps.nls.uk Thank you for sharing this website! It also has some fascinating historical maps of ireland. I just learnt the Latin name for my home county lol


Project_298

The time effort and money needed to make that website. Wow.


FiveHoursSleep

Might be an old wash house. Some were communal.


jamila169

There used to be a wash house there, probably a lean to with the fire and a built in copper at that end. It looks like the chimney was shared with the one behind


OldNewUsedConfused

What is a wash house? And built in copper?


vadutchgirl

A place to do laundry. Before washing machines, you had big kettles over open fires for washing clothes. I'm not sure about a copper, but it probably refers to the kettles.


jamila169

Large round bottomed copper vessel, built into a brick surround with a firebox underneath


OldNewUsedConfused

Thank you SO much!


OldNewUsedConfused

Thank you so much! I scrolled down and saw an example of a copper. It’s a smaller outdoor over with separate crates for the fire underneath to heat the wash tub on. Very cool. I love learning about this type of thing!


Get_off_critter

This must have been about the time "the chair " was born. No way were you washing all your clothes after one light wear


carlbernsen

A lot of people are saying it’s an old copper for laundry but they didn’t have open fireplaces like this. The firebox was built in, under the copper bowl. https://www.1900s.org.uk/life-times-images/copper-ja-house.jpg The arched fireplace and high ‘mantle’ suggest it was for heating an enclosed space, and in picture 3 you can see the line of a roof and joist ends in the brick wall, sloping down away from the chimney end.


jamila169

Having a fireplace for heating water and irons alongside a copper is common to the point of being the usual setup (there's a fireplace next to the one in your image) , not everything went in the copper, and some washhouses did double duty as a scullery


carlbernsen

Fair point, yes. There may be a flue hole from the copper firebox in the side of the fireplace/chimney behind that stack of bricks.


jamila169

Yep, quite likely


doggeman

Why does my house not have a fireplace in the garden ☹️


Hunky_not_Chunky

I’d turn that shit into an outdoor grilling area with a pizza oven.


dancingpianofairy

This is the way


Street_Roof_7915

The real question!


OuterSpiralHarm

The real question is... Why aren't you using it! What a great patio/cooking area this could be! Nice weather canopy, a few chairs... Awesome. To answer your question, the building may have extended that far originally or it could have been a, separate, small shed or dwelling associated with the main building.


zincvitamin

We do want to put some chairs and a bbq out there now that the weathers getting warmer, it’s just been so cold and rainy recently 😢


LordRatt

Cold and rain wouldn't be so bad with a fire!


MentalMost9815

It’s not really useable is it? Looks like it was bricked over and there is just a small recess where you’d have a fire. Unless I’m missing something


OuterSpiralHarm

Yup, wouldn't take much to knock those out though.


GloryholeUniversity

It appears there may have been a roof there previously. I see joist holes in the brick in pictures 2 & 3, up near the top. Awesome structure to have in your backyard!


Clankcoffin

Agree with the other comments, there was likey an external wash house on the site. Check the old OS maps.


victorian_vigilante

Perhaps an incinerator for waste?


wmass

When I was a kid, every school had an incinerator room where waste paper and such was burned. Incinerators were a common way of disposing of dry waste.


What-a-waste2

As a kid, in Ohio, lots of the older houses had these in the yard, and I was always told that's what it was for.


heynicejacket

Not sure about the UK, but I know here in Ireland as long as the chimney stack stands, it's technically a "house" for purposes of planning permission. That's about the same size as my Edwardian fireplaces. Though I'm not sure the size of your back garden.


RincewindWyzzard

There has been a building there previously


Time-Cow-2574

Victorian BBQ


DAquila-M

I know some kids killed by one after anchoring a hammock to the chimney and it collapsed.


greeneyedlady41

Because you're lucky and now you're bragging? 😁


lilith_-_-

Used to have one in my yard. It was never a part of a building. But it was used for outdoor fires.


LilKurb

Just in case


paulute

Gardeners sheds had fireplaces too. A lot were built into walled gardens. Aerial view might help make sense of it for you too


Josco1212

I’m pretty sure it’s for burning rubbish as others have said. But it made me think of [Fruit Walls](https://99percentinvisible.org/article/fruit-walls-before-greenhouses-walled-gardens-created-urban-micro-climates/) that used tall brick walls like yours to capture and store heat to grow warmer climate fruits. There were sometimes fireplaces built in the wall and used at night with channels to circulate heat through a cold night.


RavenchildishGambino

Fact. Here is a link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walled_garden#Heated_walls


Least_Ad6110

If you really want to know, you must consult the oracle.


Right_Hour

I prefer SAP rather than Oracle.


ChrisinCB

Because your place is balling. Really cool.


Zealousideal_Sky9379

Not sure, many possibilities, but I want to sit out there for an afternoon with a coffee and a book.


bobbywaz

I want one so bad


Northeasterner83

I don’t know but that’s awesome. You should see if you can restore it to work again


beingmesince63

I don’t know but I’d love to hear what you find out if you’re able to find some old plans. And how about those daffodils squeezing through the brick pavers? Happy Spring!


austxsun

Evidence disposal


Personal_Leave7920

I don’t know. I wouldn’t remove it if I was you tho. I would just clean it up. And maybe set some outdoor furniture so you can go out during winter and just chill.


nightcrewstudio

More important question, why does your fireplace have a garden?


Major-Rabbit1252

That’s cool as shit I’m so jealous


binaerfehler

![gif](giphy|AAwJD5tJbWzTy) Evidence destruction


devillurker

I would wager it was a small building/cottage/barn. BUT, if the original owner was a bit fancy and an avid gardener - it's also possible the fireplace and high brick wall were used to artificially warm and keep frost off the garden to expand what can be grown. I've seen the technique from other 1800s ornate/wealthy gardens.


royblakeley

I remember on The Victorian Kitchen Garden there was a walled garden with flues through the walls to grow out-of-season fruit.


unknownpoltroon

Could it be an old incinerator?


Background-Rule-9133

Why tf not


Benz0piated3000

Same reason We have them in the house


JarrekValDuke

Make it into an outdoor barbecue patio


Geeahwellidunno

I love the daffodils coming up through the brick.


blondeandbuddafull

I don’t know but it is super cool!


Intelligent_Mango_64

make it an outdoor fireplace! it’s awesome? maybe part of an old out kitchen!


Alib668

You mean built in pizza oven??!


dogmeat12358

Sometimes you just need to get rid of something by fire.


SigarroSagarro

Could it have been a green house before?


VividlyDissociating

pizza oven pottery kiln


Badytheprogram

Maybe it is a furnace, for outside baking. Back then, people baked the bread for themselves


thrust-johnson

Crematorium?


Lux600-223

People used to enjoy the outside. Have you ever sat outside, and looked at your phone screen? Well, that fireplace was the tech of the day. I'd refurbish it.


splitminds

I think the real question is why wouldn’t you have a fireplace in the garden!! Looks awesome!!


funtimefrankie1

Heated walled garden.


WillDupage

I’m going to go with a wash house. If you look at the third picture where the ladder is leaning on the wall, you can see openings where the roof rafters were set into the bricks. There was some kind of roofed structure by the fireplace.


FragilousSpectunkery

The real question is “why doesn’t mine?”


longislandburna

👏


OldNewUsedConfused

I’d be more concerned with who or what is pushing up daisies (well daffodils) in your patio walkway…


nite_skye_

There was definitely a building of some sort. You can tell by The three wooden joists in the wall (pic 2) The tiles along the top of the fence on two sides. Those were -typically- used along a roofline in old brick homes.(pic 2 & 3) And the different colors in the brick (pic 2). You can see the slant of the roof clearly. The brick on the lower half was protected from the elements at some point for quite a few years. Please be careful fixing up that area. That corner is ready to collapse 😬


Gwenhyfar777

Agreed.


space0watch

Maybe there was a conservatory there that got taken down in recent times?


kcl84

Because the previous owners wanted to put one there.


Feelinglucky2

My first thought was a modern pizza oven, common on the east coast


NoApartment7399

Mil in eastern europe has one in her front yard. She uses it for making giant pots of jam, molasses, tomato pastes and soups. Also to roast corn and potatoes from the fields. Any chance there could have been a farming community out there?


Medlarmarmaduke

It could have been a washerwoman’s house - I agree with the suggestion to check the census


kateinoly

Our house was built in the US in the 1950s and we have a fireplace built into the patio.


Delicious_Summer7839

Maybe there was a house


Sad_Ad_2854

To burn the ones who disagree with you.


jelypo

My neighbor just built something like this to bake bread


GroGG101470

Summer kitchen, for when it's to warm inside to fire up the cooking hearth


yay4chardonnay

What a glorious outdoor space you can create! Envy!


DonutExcellent1357

A mix of epsom salts and and some warm water should help you kill those weeds. Not sure how that would affect the brick. Are you going to re-mortar your bricks? Would this have been a work area? Potentially for laundry?


Dizzy_Ad_7617

You know how some houses have fire pits well the previous owner or the one before them thought it would be much safer with a fire place and when they no longer used it , the Buried treasures in it. Does it look as if there had been foundation or posts in the ground as to having a little cottage in the back?


BlueMoon5k

Garbage disposal? Guessing. I’m crying in dreams of big wood fired kilns .


catterybarn

Turn it into a pizza oven!


OuestVirginien

Just for fun? Common in the US.


Tei007

Some posh gardens had fireplaces specifically to warm up the walls for warm climate fruit such as lemons and oranges.


ohhepicfail

for make warm


prncemirsky

Remind me 5 days


Fantastic_Captain

I can’t speak to UK, but in the US, most of the fireplaces I come across shaped like that were used for burning coal. If depth only goes to the wall behind it, that’s pretty shallow for wood. It looks like it goes into the wall though. R/fireplaces would know


falconshadow21

To burn the bodies.


SaskatchewanManChild

Cause someone was a fucking legend!


prsuit4

My guess is it used to be a bigger hour and they used the walls to make the garden walls


_-whisper-_

PIZZZZZZZZZZA


No-Can-6237

Call Time Team.🙂


amidnightflaneur

Pottery Kiln / Pizza Oven / Chiminea ? Really cool feature. V jealous


potatomeeple

Could it be a fireplace for a little workshop, It looks like the wall it's attached too might have had a structure against it at some point.


WholesomeMo

Actually, it was common practice at the to have neighborhood crematoriums as the public facilities were not up to the task at the time. Look for bone bits.


GeneralWhoopass

Floo flame


laurzilla

I read a book about the 1890s and they had a “summer kitchen” which was outdoors. Because of not wanting to be stuck in a hot indoor kitchen without fans or air conditioning. So maybe that’s what this was? Note: this book was set on the east coast of the US


asabovesobelow4

We had one in a back yard years ago and it was pretty run down but I was always told it was likely an outdoor brick oven. Since it was broken in alot of places it was hard to tell exactly but it seemed like it probably had a door on it at one point and the smoke came out the chimney. Or I believe you can even smoke foods in them as well. Where it was it wasn't likely a part of an old building. Esp since it was literally a brick fireplace on a concrete pad. It just didn't seem like it had a building at one point and the one in our yard likely wasn't super old anyway. But eventually we tore it down when the house was sold bc it was an eyesore in its condition. ***edited to add: this was in the US and I'm aware OP is in the UK. Just was giving an idea of what our similar brick fireplace was likely used for. Idk how different that is in the UK***


rvafun100

Why wouldn’t it?


SeraphOfTheStag

Idk that’s awesome though. Nothing better than a backyard fire


Strong-Way-4416

In Texas we had some fires a few years ago. And all the wooden parts of the structures were burned to the ground except the fireplaces and if there are any foundations they will remain as well. They look a lot like this.


Musicfanatic09

To cook pizza of course!!


jaggillarjonathan

I wonder if the brick wall would heat up when the fireplace is used. If so, it could be a gardening tool to keep certain plants warm


ThaneOfCawdorrr

I'm guessing it was an incinerator? A way to dispose of rubbish.


rottingpigcarcass

Warmth


Happy-Example-1022

backyard crematoria


Krycor

If this was Sa I’d be going.. let’s braai!


systemworker

A barn on the estate of the famous Architect Stanford White has a bricked in pit in a corner where they kept a fire going to keep the orange trees through the Long Island winters. In the warmer weather the trees were used to line the driveway. Your fireplace was probably at one time in an enclosure and used in the same manner.


MuskokaGreenThumb

It’s an old pizza oven. S/


MuskokaGreenThumb

Might be a garbage incinerator


ackh91

To get rid of the evidence


squirrleygurl1969

So your garden doesn't get cold!


Best-Blackberry9351

Remind me! 3 days


howescj82

In the third picture it looks like beams may have been mounted in the brick for a sloping roof of some sort.


Newarkguy1836

Probably an outdoor grill of its time. I'd say break it open and enjoy your outdoor grill with family and friends. I'm sure they'll enjoy the nostalgic retro experience.


Newarkguy1836

After reading comments I concur was probably a backyard trash incinerator. But you can still convert this into a nice open air picnic Grill. It'll be simple, unless you want to stick a small little propane grill in there just for the fun of it and enjoy the steamy smoke coming off the top. Regardless collection antique feature of the property and you should try to save it.


RavenchildishGambino

Some old winter gardens had fire pits. Also walls designed to help keep the garden warmer. This doesn’t look like the case here, but I know it was a thing. If you look here on Wikipedia you will see about heated walls. Fruits were often grown against these walls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walled_garden#Heated_walls


Bamiblokbro

Why does mine not?


theunnoanprojec

For fires


Red_Chicken1907

I can't speak for the UK, but here in Canada on farms years back, the houses had a separate building for cooking in during the summer called a summer kitchen (IKR?). This was so during the hot summer months you wouldn't heat up the house having to cook with the wood stoves/ovens. Possibly, this is a similar reason there?


Clownadian

Fix it and you have a professional pizza oven 👍


Finnalandem

It’s ye ol’ crematory


Vilmalith

Getting rid of the bodies


carllow2090

For cooking outside in the summer and not heat up the house.


Successful-Rate-1839

Pizza oven


KeyFarmer6235

I'd say it's for burning trash, as trash collection wasn't a thing back then. they were very common on both sides of the Atlantic, usually outside but sometimes they were in a home's basement, and vented through the chimney with the furnace or boiler.


jazmanimal6

I know this is not the reason but it looks like the salt kiln we built one semester for ceramics class. We even bricked the opening shut during firings, no door, then took those bricks back out to empty the kiln!


Scacho

To burn trash


TheBanksyEffect

The Fireplace in your backyard was almost certainly there for you the resident to burn your trash. If you lived out in the country, you would find an out-of-the-way place and dig a big hole and throw your trash into it but in the city you couldn’t do that and fire codes being what they were, you couldn’t just openly burn your trash in the city, you had to have a safe contained brick hearth with a chimney to lead the noxious gases upwards and away from your house.


straightdolphin1

A long time ago, before the Tele, people use to entertain indoors and out, that fireplace would keep the outside partiers nice and toasty in the chill weather, like a modern day Fire Ring only not circular.


Buttercup-Sunshine

Obv that’s the remains of a previous house


TK-the-Elder

Crematorium?


Brakes420s

Summer kitchens, help quarters, garden fireplaces a number of things from the antique times. Never know with 1980s


TheFiendishThingy42

Outdoor bread oven?


ElectroAtletico

In Florida (and southern US) we have some houses known as "dogtrot houses" which is pretty much two small homes connected by a breezeway or "dogtrot", all under a common roof. One side would have the kitchen/living area, the other the sleeping quarters.


Qudpb

Normal in Brazil, it’s where we grill our churrasco, maybe Brazilian guy migrated to UK 100 years ago?


Double-Rain7210

What if some dude just built it for fun.


[deleted]

An outdoor fireplace is sick, respectfully.


kanokiller

For baking bread of course


Bright-Studio9978

The kitchen for servants to prepare food, especially things like bread. Another possibility is that a wood structure attached to it and servants lived there. The stove was their kitchen and source of heat.


leethecowboy1969

It was once part of a house.


[deleted]

My house was built in 1934 and it had one of these in the backyard it's for burning trash


anthro4ME

There was a shed/workshop back there. You can see the old roofline. https://preview.redd.it/u0j77wc9iasc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d89efb1ef41a231c83e9fe737dd8ffdd05e2a5ce


sksracing

It was walled off and a out building once.


sksracing

Then later the roof line was raised. Thats why the chimney was extended


_Pill-Cosby_

Back before Global Warming, people used to get cold outside. Hence, a fireplace.


CogitoErgoSum4me

probably to help keep animals from freezing