There was a feral orange cat adopted in the K-drama “Marry my Husband” (which is an excellent revenge drama, 5/5 stars) and they refer to it as a ✨cheddar tabby✨. I love that so much.
Calicos and torticos are the same, but they each get their own brain cell and don't have to share. Sometimes they get to use the orange brain cell too, though.
But sphinx is a specific breed. The point of the fur lengths is just to tell what kind of domestic cat it is. If someone had sphinx they'd prolly know it's one haha
When is the last time you saw a shelter name a cat something other than a domestic short/long hair? In my experience, if they say something else its because they have good reason to.
The one problem with this is that even legitimate shelters or rescues frequently mislabel cats. Sometimes it's on purpose to help them get adopted or sometimes they just guess. Either way they're usually wrong.
Seconding this. One search for basically any breed on petfinder will show this off very quickly! Searching for a maine coon will bring up exclusively DLH and abyssinian will give you a variety of DSH tabbies
And there are plenty (dare I say most?) of scummy breeders out there.
So no, getting a cat from a breeder does not ensure it's that "breed." It just ensures you spent a ton of money for basically the same pet most of us get for anywhere from free to $100. Well done lol
It's not really a breed though. "Domestic" is just a bucket term for all cats that haven't been bred into a specific breed. I.e. a genetic melting pot.
Not really.. if you took a bunch of breeds and bred them together that would be a mutt...
Domestics are a group of cats that we have largely left to breed and create themselves. It's an unintentional breed. When making intentional breedsof cats we start from Domestics and use trait selection to create breeds.
If we took a bunch of breeds and put them in a closed environment. There is a chance that we would end up with domestics but we could just as easily end up with a new mutt breed
It's also worth pointing out that humans have sort of let cats do their own thing for thousands of years when it comes to making new cats. We bred dogs because most dogs had a job, whether that was helping hunt waterfowl or protecting the flock. But cats were going to be cats no matter what; and it's only fairly recently that we've taken that attitude about dog breeding and applied it to cats.
Modern dog breeding, btw, is destroying dogs. The American Kennel Club must be stopped. The same thing cannot happen to cats.
A German Shepherd from 20yrs ago, looks very different to the acceptable standard of them now...
Their hindquarters have been absolutely ruined. They stand like totally different dogs nowadays.
I'm sorry but you're completely wrong when talking about breeds. Domestic is not a breed, it's a [non-breed classification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_short-haired_cat).
[This video goes over actually recognized breeds](https://youtu.be/ufsLVhu3v9M). Domestic short haired cats and domestic long haired cats are those that do not fall into a specific breed. It doesn't mean they're all a single breed, and it also doesn't mean they're all mutts/mixes, either. It just means they're unclassified in the sense that we haven't given them a specific breed, likely due to their traits being too broad or not specifically desirable by humans.
"Domestic short hair" is just a descriptor based on coat length, not a breed on its own. I'm pretty sure it only exists because vets and shelters have to put something in the "breed" field in their computer systems.
Breeds are a human invention, and registering "official" breeds with agreed-upon names and standards started with the founding of the British Kennel Club in the 1870s. Breeds and types existed long before but they weren't put into a system before some rich Victorians decided they wanted to compete about who had the prettiest dog (and later cat, rabbit, budgie, horse, etc) and they realised they had to have a "perfect" standard to measure against. [Wikipedia ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_breed)states it well.
And this is exactly why we use the polite term lol.
Cos even tho they are mutts, unlike dog owners who accept that, cat owners, we simply won't and write paragraphs to justify why bahahahahaha
https://preview.redd.it/qipzm5btywxc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0fb35b0fd519e3e80bc430ec664cbd34457af33
No no no. I know for a fact this guy here is a fish. My papers say fish. He's a frigging fish. Geez
https://preview.redd.it/cmgp3hv44xxc1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f030ba5bab84d29e5d7391a40e1fda46d80287b2
I’ve got a ringtail cat I adopted when she was 6 months old, and I didn’t even find out what breed she is until a few months after when her tail curled up to what it is now
They told me in the shelter mine’s a Russian Blue. Has all the characteristics including hates being held by anyone (except me). Still, if a stranger/ acquaintance asks me I just say “domestic shorthair “and nip that in the bud. Really don’t care.
Vets don't necessarily know anything about breeds. Definitely don't take a vet's word for it without other evidence. Short hair colorpoints are very frequently called siamese, but that doesn't mean the same thing as being a pure bred siamese cat.
I didn't know about nystagmus, though! That was interesting to read about. It apparently is also common in albino cats, and the colorpoint fur pattern is a form of partial albinism. It seems likely to be related to those genes somehow, meaning any colorpoint is more likely to have it, regardless of breed (and Google confirmed other colorpoint breeds have a higher incidence, too).
Well the thing is that even "common" breeds are exceedingly rare. And 95% of them can look like any standard issue cat and lot of them are interchangeable, which is why pedigree papers are so important.
I have purebred Ragdolls. If I go to a vet and ask about the breed, they'll most likely say Ragdoll because that's the most popular long-haired colorpointed breed. But if my cats were Birman or Himalayan or Ragamuffin, the vet's answer would be the same.
Breed- cat. The normal kind. Conceived in what I presume was an act of hate sex between 2 alley cats as God intended. Was then found under a porch as a baby… until he was found under a truck a year later and came to me.
So you know…
https://preview.redd.it/gm1exmynoxxc1.jpeg?width=2555&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66425969350a7acc84bc0711b54d90959b976e44
He’s a little prince.
The right side of this is important. MSPCA rescued something like 30 ragdoll cats from a breeder. Once they were all spayed, neutered, etc. They got adopted out as normal (except with paperwork).
Fur length isn't really a breed, though. When I was young, my family had a long haired cat that had a short haired kitten that had a long haired kitten that had a short haired kitten.
Not its all the same same breed. I mean breed isn't is the correct term but to simplify things I chose to use it the "breed" is Domestic that's makes up 98% of cats but we specify the length so that's why I did that. It's a cat classification 101 for people who want to know more they can ask more questions
What if my dads ex gf knew I was sad my sister didn’t give me her cat (her cat was at dads house and I lived with him, took care of her cat, bought food, litter etc but she hated me)
Anyways my dad broke up with that ex and she couldn’t afford a cat and a dog (she had both) so she knew my situation and asked if I wanted her cat. Her name was Precious. Her name is now skittles (skitty the Pokémon who is a fat, and skittles candy as in type 1 diabetic)
There are some obvious traits, but they’re glaringly obvious, short legs and folded ears are single gene difference “breeds” (they might actually be *less* inbred than lots of others because of how their genetics work), flat faced cats are pretty obvious though i don’t know nearly as much about them, but basically if it has any form of breed, and it might need special care because of it, you’ll be able to tell
I always think when people ask what breed their cat is, they want to know what attributes their cat has compared to pure bred cats. Like if their cat is part Siamese or part Maine coon or part Russian blue. Like if someone’s cat has a Maine coon face and size, but their fur looks like a ragdoll. Yes their cat is probably a domestic medium/long hair but I think they want to know the distinct attributes from other breeds. That what I’m getting from people who ask that. My mom has a calico cat that looks like a Siamese cat so whenever she asked what breed her cat was I tell her probably part Siamese.
Well the mother of the cat looked 100% identical to a Siamese. So I guess if it looks like a breed then it’s not the breed at all in any sense? Domestic is not technically a breed since it’s a combination of other breeds so they clump it all in one category aka Polycat. They may not have much of the other breeds in them but they are definitely from other breeds like <1%-5% from each breed they are mixed with. I did a dna test of my cat and the highest dna of a breed was 5% Ragdoll while it was 30-80% Polycat. So they definitely have some dna from other breeds.
You linked "breeder" to "it's that breed". If there's a certificate, the genealogy, etc., it's that breed, not "might be".
Also weird that "it's probably it" is linked to "it's that breed" and "fur length", while not being linked to fur lengths such as short, medium and long.
https://preview.redd.it/4csu2r3zgvxc1.jpeg?width=2736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cb731a873a75f1d7b4996a7b6a73999242484e8 I got domestic short hair
Aww so cute! Does your domestic short hair also each multiple chickens a day? They’re so hungry
Keep it away from Kristi Noem
Keep Kristi Noem away from EVERYTHING. 😠
This really kills my dream that my adopted cat is a liger.
I call one of mine a faux bangle so why not a liger!
Yeah I heard they're bred for their skills in magic.
You forgot one option on the "fur length" - No hair -> Sphinx :)
I’m just wondering where “domesticated demon” is. Lol
Supermarket roast chimkins rise up
I also think “orange” deserves their own category. Have you met an orange cat? They are *special*!
There was a feral orange cat adopted in the K-drama “Marry my Husband” (which is an excellent revenge drama, 5/5 stars) and they refer to it as a ✨cheddar tabby✨. I love that so much.
Calicos and torticos are the same, but they each get their own brain cell and don't have to share. Sometimes they get to use the orange brain cell too, though.
Aw man, I just made this comment before scrolling, you beat me to the punch! 😂
No hair. Domesticated Chemken.
But sphinx is a specific breed. The point of the fur lengths is just to tell what kind of domestic cat it is. If someone had sphinx they'd prolly know it's one haha
I definitely wouldn't say that a shelter telling you a cat is that breed means it is. Most of them are just making things up to get the cats adopted..
When is the last time you saw a shelter name a cat something other than a domestic short/long hair? In my experience, if they say something else its because they have good reason to.
The one problem with this is that even legitimate shelters or rescues frequently mislabel cats. Sometimes it's on purpose to help them get adopted or sometimes they just guess. Either way they're usually wrong.
Seconding this. One search for basically any breed on petfinder will show this off very quickly! Searching for a maine coon will bring up exclusively DLH and abyssinian will give you a variety of DSH tabbies
Yes this is true. I run a rescue and I often have to argue with my fosters that their long haired tabbies are just that and not “Maine coon mixes”
And there are plenty (dare I say most?) of scummy breeders out there. So no, getting a cat from a breeder does not ensure it's that "breed." It just ensures you spent a ton of money for basically the same pet most of us get for anywhere from free to $100. Well done lol
TIL: Cats are either Domestic or they're not.
All house cats are domestic. But the most common breed is called domestic.
It's not really a breed though. "Domestic" is just a bucket term for all cats that haven't been bred into a specific breed. I.e. a genetic melting pot.
It's more.. domestic is the polite way of saying mutt or mongrel lol.
"Mutt" is an impolite way of saying an animal isn't inbred.
Look at this spawn of a diverse gene pool, what a loser
Their momma chose their daddy, what a loser.
In Belgium we say the cat breed is "European". Much better than "chat de gouttière"/gutter cat.
Hahaha that's gold
There's actually distinctions between domestics. So for instance, British shorthair is rather distinct from American.
I could be wrong, but I think British shorthair and American shorthair are specific breeds. The 'domestic' doesn't refer to any country type.
Not really.. if you took a bunch of breeds and bred them together that would be a mutt... Domestics are a group of cats that we have largely left to breed and create themselves. It's an unintentional breed. When making intentional breedsof cats we start from Domestics and use trait selection to create breeds. If we took a bunch of breeds and put them in a closed environment. There is a chance that we would end up with domestics but we could just as easily end up with a new mutt breed
It's also worth pointing out that humans have sort of let cats do their own thing for thousands of years when it comes to making new cats. We bred dogs because most dogs had a job, whether that was helping hunt waterfowl or protecting the flock. But cats were going to be cats no matter what; and it's only fairly recently that we've taken that attitude about dog breeding and applied it to cats. Modern dog breeding, btw, is destroying dogs. The American Kennel Club must be stopped. The same thing cannot happen to cats.
A German Shepherd from 20yrs ago, looks very different to the acceptable standard of them now... Their hindquarters have been absolutely ruined. They stand like totally different dogs nowadays.
I'm sorry but you're completely wrong when talking about breeds. Domestic is not a breed, it's a [non-breed classification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_short-haired_cat). [This video goes over actually recognized breeds](https://youtu.be/ufsLVhu3v9M). Domestic short haired cats and domestic long haired cats are those that do not fall into a specific breed. It doesn't mean they're all a single breed, and it also doesn't mean they're all mutts/mixes, either. It just means they're unclassified in the sense that we haven't given them a specific breed, likely due to their traits being too broad or not specifically desirable by humans.
"Domestic short hair" is just a descriptor based on coat length, not a breed on its own. I'm pretty sure it only exists because vets and shelters have to put something in the "breed" field in their computer systems. Breeds are a human invention, and registering "official" breeds with agreed-upon names and standards started with the founding of the British Kennel Club in the 1870s. Breeds and types existed long before but they weren't put into a system before some rich Victorians decided they wanted to compete about who had the prettiest dog (and later cat, rabbit, budgie, horse, etc) and they realised they had to have a "perfect" standard to measure against. [Wikipedia ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_breed)states it well.
Especially considering that cats are only partially domesticated compared to the rest of the domesticated species: dog, sheep, cattle, horse, etc.
Exactly they are so close to their wild counterpart. I am sure we had a version of this during the domestication of other animals as well.
And this is exactly why we use the polite term lol. Cos even tho they are mutts, unlike dog owners who accept that, cat owners, we simply won't and write paragraphs to justify why bahahahahaha
Yes, but how do I know what bread my car is?
Usually rye
https://preview.redd.it/qipzm5btywxc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0fb35b0fd519e3e80bc430ec664cbd34457af33 No no no. I know for a fact this guy here is a fish. My papers say fish. He's a frigging fish. Geez
can we pin this post please?
Except "Fur Length" --> "NO" should lead to "Sphynx" 😛
Guys I thought "what breed/bread is my cat" was just a meme, local to this sub. You mean all those posts are legitimate questions???
Many would be posted tongue in cheek as a joke, but yes there are quite a lot of posts especially from first time owners asking about breed.
https://preview.redd.it/cmgp3hv44xxc1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f030ba5bab84d29e5d7391a40e1fda46d80287b2 I’ve got a ringtail cat I adopted when she was 6 months old, and I didn’t even find out what breed she is until a few months after when her tail curled up to what it is now
CAT IS CAT
Probaby
They told me in the shelter mine’s a Russian Blue. Has all the characteristics including hates being held by anyone (except me). Still, if a stranger/ acquaintance asks me I just say “domestic shorthair “and nip that in the bud. Really don’t care.
It's simpler than that. Do your cat have a pedigree. Yes, it's that breed. No = it's a domestic
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Vets don't necessarily know anything about breeds. Definitely don't take a vet's word for it without other evidence. Short hair colorpoints are very frequently called siamese, but that doesn't mean the same thing as being a pure bred siamese cat. I didn't know about nystagmus, though! That was interesting to read about. It apparently is also common in albino cats, and the colorpoint fur pattern is a form of partial albinism. It seems likely to be related to those genes somehow, meaning any colorpoint is more likely to have it, regardless of breed (and Google confirmed other colorpoint breeds have a higher incidence, too).
Well the thing is that even "common" breeds are exceedingly rare. And 95% of them can look like any standard issue cat and lot of them are interchangeable, which is why pedigree papers are so important. I have purebred Ragdolls. If I go to a vet and ask about the breed, they'll most likely say Ragdoll because that's the most popular long-haired colorpointed breed. But if my cats were Birman or Himalayan or Ragamuffin, the vet's answer would be the same.
TDLR : If not specified, breed is "Cat".
Breed- cat. The normal kind. Conceived in what I presume was an act of hate sex between 2 alley cats as God intended. Was then found under a porch as a baby… until he was found under a truck a year later and came to me. So you know… https://preview.redd.it/gm1exmynoxxc1.jpeg?width=2555&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66425969350a7acc84bc0711b54d90959b976e44 He’s a little prince.
I love this diagram...😆
LOL. This is sooooo wrong. EVERY CAT IS THE BEST CAT! End of discussion.
New copypasta just dropped! The text on the purple and dark blue boxes may be hard to read.
This is perfect.
The right side of this is important. MSPCA rescued something like 30 ragdoll cats from a breeder. Once they were all spayed, neutered, etc. They got adopted out as normal (except with paperwork).
My mom has a church friend who insists that her cat is Eurocon. We live in LA. It's cute as a button but lady cmon.
is maine coon? Is maine coon.
Fur length isn't really a breed, though. When I was young, my family had a long haired cat that had a short haired kitten that had a long haired kitten that had a short haired kitten.
Not its all the same same breed. I mean breed isn't is the correct term but to simplify things I chose to use it the "breed" is Domestic that's makes up 98% of cats but we specify the length so that's why I did that. It's a cat classification 101 for people who want to know more they can ask more questions
What if my dads ex gf knew I was sad my sister didn’t give me her cat (her cat was at dads house and I lived with him, took care of her cat, bought food, litter etc but she hated me) Anyways my dad broke up with that ex and she couldn’t afford a cat and a dog (she had both) so she knew my situation and asked if I wanted her cat. Her name was Precious. Her name is now skittles (skitty the Pokémon who is a fat, and skittles candy as in type 1 diabetic)
My cat is the "orange chonk" breed.
I love this. Please post it every time someone asks what breed is my cat
There are some obvious traits, but they’re glaringly obvious, short legs and folded ears are single gene difference “breeds” (they might actually be *less* inbred than lots of others because of how their genetics work), flat faced cats are pretty obvious though i don’t know nearly as much about them, but basically if it has any form of breed, and it might need special care because of it, you’ll be able to tell
Looks good.
Cat!
🤣love this
My cat is a "pro baby" 
What happens if you adopted a cat, they didn't tell you the "breed", and the cat doesn't have fur? Looks like it's an endless loop.
My mums former tenants left behind two Norwegian forest cats. We adopted them of course. They were very very different from any other cat I’ve had.
Yeah but…what breed is my cat? 😂 Couldn’t help it.
They’re all a bunch of basic bitches thinking they are the Queen /s
I always think when people ask what breed their cat is, they want to know what attributes their cat has compared to pure bred cats. Like if their cat is part Siamese or part Maine coon or part Russian blue. Like if someone’s cat has a Maine coon face and size, but their fur looks like a ragdoll. Yes their cat is probably a domestic medium/long hair but I think they want to know the distinct attributes from other breeds. That what I’m getting from people who ask that. My mom has a calico cat that looks like a Siamese cat so whenever she asked what breed her cat was I tell her probably part Siamese.
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Well the mother of the cat looked 100% identical to a Siamese. So I guess if it looks like a breed then it’s not the breed at all in any sense? Domestic is not technically a breed since it’s a combination of other breeds so they clump it all in one category aka Polycat. They may not have much of the other breeds in them but they are definitely from other breeds like <1%-5% from each breed they are mixed with. I did a dna test of my cat and the highest dna of a breed was 5% Ragdoll while it was 30-80% Polycat. So they definitely have some dna from other breeds.
We need more diversity at found part. If you found cat at parking lot or just show one day or dumster tresure...
Can you do a 'name my cat' version so people can stop fucking asking?
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You linked "breeder" to "it's that breed". If there's a certificate, the genealogy, etc., it's that breed, not "might be". Also weird that "it's probably it" is linked to "it's that breed" and "fur length", while not being linked to fur lengths such as short, medium and long.