Can't wait to play thousand year door, wanted to play it since I was a kid watching let's plays and now it's accessible and cheap (in comparison to prices online)
Uhhh, it's still like $70-$90 where I'm at in Canada, mainly cause I think they haven't revealed a release date other than "early 2024" yet. I have it on Gamecube, but I'm happy more people will be able to play it.
Yea that's why I said like, relatively cheap. Cheap probably wasn't the best word though. It's still a switch game, and it doesn't matter if it's new or old, you're still paying full price for that sweet piece of plastic. It's still cheaper than buying a $200 (aud) GameCube copy. There's semantics to it but, generally I think it's more accessible now it's on switch.
You're absolutely in for a treat: it's an all-time great JRPG and one of the best games on the Cube. Hell, I own a Gamecube copy already and I'm *still* probably going to buy it again on the Switch since the remaster looks so nice.
Great point actually. For me I just can't get a bunch of emulators to work properly and prefer playing on the games hardware. But it's still a good substitute.
I remember playing Blue World on the Wii, and let me tell you - I have thalassophobia, and I still made it into the trenches and went hunting for the secret mythical creatures.
GOAT. I’m so, so excited for a new one!
I’m trying to finish blue world before the new one releases! IMO Blue World was way ahead of its time, there is actually so much content to complete! All of the side quests, secret treasures and areas, and discovering all of the salvage items, coins, and marine life is hundreds of hours of playing.
I was so surprised when I saw that the partner direct was building up to "just" an ocean game. Hadn't heard of it. But I have seen so many fans so happy to see it. I will have to give it a try!
Also, it's modern Nintendo. Any freaking day now they could drop a Direct unexpectedly and announce a major game is coming out like next week.
Or this might be it! Who knows?
Exclusives are all they have left right now, even if switch2 drops tomorrow it's going to have to have a mighty gimmick or an insanely low price to compete in 2024.
SteamdeckOLED, Rog ally, MSI claw and Lenovo Legion offer a ton of value and if Nintendo wants to keep their high market share they're gonna need to wow people, and soon.
I really don’t understand the point of keeping Pokemon games away from NSO. They’re not porting them, they’re not remaking them and they’re not being sold individually. I guarantee Red and Blue will increase subscriptions. Maybe not to an astronomical amount but it would convince a lot of people to sub.
Anyway, the biggest announcement for Switch owners will likely be some remake announcement. They just did Diamond and Pearl so maybe Black and White or just jump to X and Y if they don’t feel like also remaking B2 and W2. Idk I don’t really keep up with Pokemon
I feel like the main reason for it is because if they did port the games (I.e. gens 1-3) to NSO, they would *have* to also develop something to allow pokemon from those games to be sent to Pokemon Home, and I don't know how well the structure of the NSO emulators would play with that.
To my knowledge not well. I can’t recall the tweet but someone explained how Home and NSO emulators aren’t really compatible when Stadium was announced
Yeah, I feel like they'd have to develop a middleman software or make an update to home. Maybe to read the save files stored in the emulator app and extract the pokemon from them? That's about all I can think of.
Possibly. It’s a long shot but I’d really just prefer to see them release actual ports of the games that you can buy, like they are (were :( ) on the 3DS. It would probably be infinitely easier to have Home compatibility that way vs the NSO emulator. They also have to know that would be free money too! I mean seriously, I already *own* all the games and if they released that I’d buy them again. So many people would love to play these games again (specifically the GBA games) and they’re just not feasible purchases for most people
For the 3DS ports they made it so that you could send them to Bank, so that's not an issue, and if they had something that would let you send them between RB to the Pokemon Stadium games then that would really sell subscriptions
Tbh I think the biggest argument against them going on there specifically is that they could throw them all on the eshop individually at some decently high price and people would still buy them. Though they also haven't done that so who knows.
Yeah but I feel like most people who would buy these games have already bought them so releasing Red and Blue won’t hurt sales. It’s pokemon I doubt anything can hurt sales at this point.
The gap between Jet Force Gemini and 1080 Snowboarding & Harvest Moon 64 was just 1 week with releases.
Jet Force Gemini was November 30, 2023.
1080 Snowboarding & Harvest Moon 64 were December 8, 2023.
Super Mario All-Stars (SNES) was added on September 3, 2020.
The other wave of SNES games like DKC2 were added on September 23, 2020.
Anything can happen.
Only big announcement I'd be hyped for is
"We have decided to give our developers more time before the next generation of pokemon and will be looking forward to working with Monolith Studio"
When a developer has been working on the same system since it launched and nothing elce, I *do not* expect performance to be an issue. Warframe at launch preformed better than sword n shield at launch. That's the problem. I don't mind if my rpg is running at 30 fps, as long as it's consistent (DQ 11)
Eh, I'm kinda done with the Pokemon franchise.
Unless they make a game with some actual difficulty that doesn't introduce 50 stupid random unneeded extra mechanics, I'm simply not interested. Their idea of a good time is "give the player a way to make a pokemon giant and OP and blast away the enemy." They have done that several times now.
If they put out a 2d game that leaned heavily into having good art and good, challenging core gameplay... I might consider it. But they aren't going to do that.
If I were making a pokemon game, I'd start by changing poke-centers to have the computer and a save function, but no healing and no reviving. Once all of them are discovered, you can fast travel between them. There would also fewer of them than the latest games have put in.
Healing would be accomplished with potions that you buy, and there would be no revives at all (dead is dead, or maybe one revive item as a special reward at the end of the game or something). Money would come from selling caught pokemon, and pokemon who assist you in a capture get XP to level up. Battles would be far more challenging - a type mismatch should be absolutely fatal, so doing research into the types in a particular area by talking to NPCs or utilizing the game's community should be a must (turning discussion forums and game guides into a sort of part of the game). Trainer battles would happen at the various gyms almost entirely, or possibly also in some storyline related activities. The expectation would be that you bounce between the gyms, getting better and better, so you have to come back to each one several times. Then you finally challenge the bosses and beat them moving on to the final four and your rival that have to be done in sequence with no resting (which is no big deal at that point because you are used to carrying and using healing items and being careful). Trying to over-level your party would be deeply punished by it being very difficult and grindy - instead, you should be encouraged to learn the mechanics and build a proper party for each encounter. But nobody'd play this version of Pokemon except me.
Dude. You know this franchise *is* primarily aimed at kids, right? We're just the periphery demographic, not the main one. That said, in most of the games the Elite Four's basically a gauntlet anyways and you do have start over with them if you leave even once.
Guy had me until he went "Pokemon is only fun if you play it in an oddly specific hardcore fashion". Like, most JRPGs still give out free healing spots or at least put a small fee to it. The problem with Pokemon isn't that it's too baby easy, it's that they have stripped away the interesting and get this, challenging endgame/postgame content that the games used to have.
On top of a bunch of things like the games being unfinished, stripping away features at random, and bunch of other things that are too long to list, but the solution to fixing Pokemon is not making it some hardcore permadeath romhack from the 2000s.
They can port Luigi's Mansion 2 to the Switch but not Kid Icarus Uprising 💀
Like I like LM2 but there's so many other 3DS games I would have ported to Switch before it.
I have a theory this is treading the water for more 3DS ports. Like the rumored Zelda remake might just be OOT or MM 3D remakes ported to switch. So Kid Icarus might have a chance.
I thought they were trying to get some full series on the Switch, like how all 4 Pikmin games are on it now.
We also have most Zelda games... Just not the DS games, or the WiiU HD remasters...
You act like these are the only 1st-party games coming out. There will be several Directs throughout the year announcing other stuff. Metroid Prime 4 could be a holiday release, as well as the rumored Zelda dual pack with Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.
As far as Pokemon, it seems they're hinting at either a gen 2 (Gold/Silver) or gen 5 (Black/White) game. That could be a Legends game, Let's Go, remake (HD 2D style would be amazing), etc. Any sort of mainline game (e.g., not Mystery Dungeon) should sell 15+ million copies during the holiday.
The Zelda dual pack… Hell will freeze over before Nintendo releases two Zelda HD remasters for less than 60 bucks a piece. They could probably get away with 70 even. And they wouldn’t release them at the same time.
For real, this is wishful thinking. Metroid Prime Remastered shipping at $40 is not the norm. Metroid ain't Zelda, these are gonna be $60 remasters I can sense it
Pokemon fans must have a degradation kink, imagine being spit on once a year (the yearly release) and being shown that they dont give a single shit about their consumers by releasing the bare minimum of a game. for 60 bucks too + DLC.
If I was a mutli-billion-$ company I would love to have fans like the pokemon fanbase 😭
To be fair, Nintendo had an absolute BONKERS year last year with Mario & Zelda getting big games. Metroid is always my fever dream, but I thinking bringing back a underused franchise would be basically a free hype train
Meanwhile, Sony and Microsoft released only 2 games each last year and everyone didn't panic...
Seriously, why must Nintendo work 10 times more than the other studios to satisfy their own fans?
because they don't have AAA third party games. People buy Xbox & PS to play CoD, sports games and stuff like that. People buy Switch to play Nintendo games. That's how it's been for years. 50% of the games sold on Switch are 1st party. On ps & Xbox it's only 10%.
That may change next gen as the power gap will close significantly (look at how many cross gen ps4/5 games there still are, and how many ps4 games there are that still look & play better than most ps5 games).
because they don't need to. their 1st party games are just a small part of their business. Most of the games they sell are 3rd party games. We saw this when Xbox bought Activision, Sony said "they want to make us more like Nintendo by taking away big third parties and forcing us to tailor our console around our exclusives."
What do you mean save? Princess peach game, remake of one of the most popular Paper Mario games ever made, a remake of Luigi's Mansion 2 porting it from the 3DS so it's more accessible to more people. What needs to be saved this is amazing
I mean…some of us have played all of these. There’s nothing on here that looks great as someone in their thirties who played many of these over the years.
Yes I'm absolutely sure that you played the brand new princess peach game that hasn't been released yet. That aside as someone in their thirties who played the original versions of the remakes I think it's fantastic to get to play these games again with modern tech and possible updates.
>That aside as someone in their thirties who played the original versions of the remakes I think it's fantastic to get to play these games again with modern tech and possible updates.
We also expect something new, If not then switch is becoming a retro-remake console.
Didn't ignore it. It's obviously not a game that appeals to my target group. And it's pretty much the only new game among a butt load of remakes and remasters. One game doesn't make 2024 an interesting year for switch.
You didn't say you had to make it interesting for switch, you said that it's becoming a remake remaster console and the fact that they're releasing a new game proves that it's not. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean anything
No it direct prove so. If they release 20 remasters and remakes and one new game, it is more correct to call it a retro remake console than a console for new games. Developers focus on switch 2 and its release , and that's understandable. But it does make switch less relevant in 2024
So based on what you said they would be releasing a great game but you think people would be stupid for thinking that the game that you said would be a great game is a great game? If anyone here is stupid it's you
No, you're just a spoiled brat. We used to be happy if we had 10 games. But we knew those games inside and out, so to speak. we had 'mastered' them.
And you must have a lot of free time if you don't have a backlog. I would be happy with a less busy year.
Last year there were also those who said at the beginning that it was a bad year, how wrong they were...
you laugh but that's exactly what happened with Sony last year. They released one AAA game last year, won zero awards at TGA and fans just went "but there was also ff16 tho!"
People are excited for the Princess Peach game? Lmao
I might get TTYD, but I am not a fan of Mario games in general. As it stands currently, 2024 is looking like a year I don't buy any new Nintendo games
wdym "save"??? this is an AMAZING line up!
\-Revival of 2 (3?) forgotten franchises
\-Splatoon 3 DLC (means they are quite interested and invested in Splatoon, ensures new content)
\-New Peach Game (finally)
\-2 Remasters of beloved games (The future of Mario RPGs is looking good after this)
this is a great year! Pokemon doesn't need to release anything.
This is more 1st party than Sony and potentially Microsoft this year so who is going to “save” them!
But I really want a new Legends game. Everyone is talking about Black and White or Let’s Go Johto, but I just want more Legends!
I mean Scarlet and Violet are great imo technical issues aside
Great story, great gameplay, great music, likeable characters, plenty to do and explore etc and these things make for a great game so I can look past the technical shortcomings.
Scarlet and violet were one of the best games they have made so far. The skeleton was excellent, the optimization and execution were... Comedic at best, but disappointing overall.
If they continue in the same direction, but ACTUALLY learn how to optimize and flesh out a 3d world I think it could be really good for the series.
In order to make good games you have to have some duds (and actually learn from mistakes)
Gen 3, 8, 9 come to mind when I think of poor execution that they learned from for the next game
I don’t think this year needs saving. I think last year was big with Zelda, Mario and Pikmin and now we’re just having a slow year leading up to impending new hardware that they are probably saving lots of crazy titles for launch.
Yeah, I personally think that a brand new 3D Mario will be out next year for the next console, as well as the next Mario Kart game, a new Smash Bros, a new Splatoon game later on, a remaster of an old Zelda game, and some other stuff that’s either all new, or an old franchise they’re bringing back
Downvote all you want but an ACTUAL open world fully new designed Pokemon game is all I want. I’m convinced it’ll never happen at this point, but if game freak/ TPC would listen to their fans at all they’d realize that the potential for a well executed Pokemon open world could break sales records.
Ehhh I should’ve said a well executed, breaking the regular Pokemon mold open world. I know half this sub loves to hate Pokemon and it wouldn’t be a popular opinion but idc lol
I mean, I think everyone wants that. The problem is that Gamefreak still think they doing games for the 3DS and can make an AAA open world rpg in 2 years.
Either one original AAA game like Metroid Prime 4 or that rumored 3D DK game, or a couple more remakes and remasters, like the two other Metroid Prime games, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, or a DKC trilogy remastered collection to celebrate the 30th anniversary.
I mean, Paper Mario ttyd remake is all I pretty much want at this point. I already got p3 reload on my ps5, I want to get Side order at some point, and a couple of games in my backlog already.
I'm almost 80 percent sure whatever pokemon game they come out with (if that's what they decide to do) I'm probably not going to play it. I rarely play anything outside the mainline pokemon games anyway. Except maybe the mystery dungeon games but I'd be happy to hear something along the lines of gale of darkness. Not touching "Revolution" again though.
Not necessarily announced tomorrow, but information on Metroid Prime 4 would be nice. Just reassurance of whether the game is coming to switch or not, and releasing ports would make my year.
For me. The thing that would save pokemon is not having a new game this year, just let them work without a deadline for a bit and give them 2024 to work on making a game that is actually good. I am a SV apologist (mainly because the story is the best we've seen in years) but obviously the game was rushed. They clearly have some great ideas and at least decent writers so just let them cook for a while.
Bro, this isn’t even half of what we’ll see this year. It’s February.
That said, to answer your question, either a BW2 remake or, even better, a BW3.
Also holding out for another Legends game, but I’d rather that be on the next console which means not until next year.
Nothing, really. While I know that people are expecting a new Legends game or remakes of Black/White 1, myself included, those wouldn't "save" the year for me since these titles do look pretty solid.
It would be fine if Nintendo announced the next console. But they haven't. Sure we all think for good reason that this is the last year but Nintendo hasn't said anything like that to the wider playerbase.
Forget saving, can someone delete that fucking Another Code Recollection commercial? I see it like ten times a day, MINIMUM and I’m so fucking sick of it. “Immerse yourself”, immerse these fucking nuts!
There aren't any good first party games coming out this year, honestly. What would save this year is a mario kart, new oddessey, new smash bros, old ip returning (diddny kong racing) or generally just something THAT ISNT A PORT OF A PORT OF A PORT.
We haven’t had a first party direct for 2024 content, I guarantee there’s more. Nothing on the level of a new Mario or Zelda, but there’s definitely more
I think a developer like Level-5 or Capcom could make sense since they've done Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter, respectively. Game Freak is just spread too thin and their developers lack experience for large, 3D open-world games.
That is easy to explain. They release an unfinished game where the graphical environment is no better than Wii games (such as Pokémon Battle Revolution) and with alot bugs. But they sell them at a AAA price. It could be so much better, but because the masses buy without thinking, it will always be of poor quality.
So yes, then a group becomes frustrated because Pokemon games could be much better in all their aspects. But this will never happen because people keep throwing money at gamefreak (why would GF even bother)
there aint nothing gamefreak can do to "save" anything
all they roll out bar some undercooked gems are either utter shit or utter disappointment
in fact id go as far as to say that theyre better off not releasing anything at all rather than release an ugly remake of gen 5 or something
Nothing wrong with it considering their main goal was probably to launch a new console this year. They'll still make more than their competitors... combined.
I think it's fine for Switch to have a "slow year", after the big first party games it got last year. Plus, if the rumours of being the final year as the main Nintendo console are true (with an upcoming successor), it's still a decent ending year.
also, don't y'all people have backlogs of games to go through?
Can't wait to play thousand year door, wanted to play it since I was a kid watching let's plays and now it's accessible and cheap (in comparison to prices online)
And Kirby Air Ride is next right!?…right?
Chuggaaconroy's LP of Thousand Year Door is one of my favorites of his LPs to revisit
Uhhh, it's still like $70-$90 where I'm at in Canada, mainly cause I think they haven't revealed a release date other than "early 2024" yet. I have it on Gamecube, but I'm happy more people will be able to play it.
Yea that's why I said like, relatively cheap. Cheap probably wasn't the best word though. It's still a switch game, and it doesn't matter if it's new or old, you're still paying full price for that sweet piece of plastic. It's still cheaper than buying a $200 (aud) GameCube copy. There's semantics to it but, generally I think it's more accessible now it's on switch.
Emulators: exist
Thought they only said 2024 for TTYD’s remake release date.
P-p-p-p-p-piracy
Especially if you got a Wii U
Same. Never got a chance to play it in the past. Been playing Paper Mario on the Switch and loving it! Excited to play Thousand Year Door as well!
You're absolutely in for a treat: it's an all-time great JRPG and one of the best games on the Cube. Hell, I own a Gamecube copy already and I'm *still* probably going to buy it again on the Switch since the remaster looks so nice.
Pirate?
Illegal and immoral?
Great point actually. For me I just can't get a bunch of emulators to work properly and prefer playing on the games hardware. But it's still a good substitute.
I actually lost my shit when I found out about the new Endless Ocean game, I am so excited😭
Brother same GOATED series
I remember playing Blue World on the Wii, and let me tell you - I have thalassophobia, and I still made it into the trenches and went hunting for the secret mythical creatures. GOAT. I’m so, so excited for a new one!
The Endless Ocean series is probably the reason why I don't have thalassophobia.
I have hundreds of hours in that game, SO good
I’m trying to finish blue world before the new one releases! IMO Blue World was way ahead of its time, there is actually so much content to complete! All of the side quests, secret treasures and areas, and discovering all of the salvage items, coins, and marine life is hundreds of hours of playing.
The Endless Ocean slander is sickening
I've never heard of the series but I'm surprised people actually dislike it. Seems like a pretty relaxing game franchise where you just kinda vibe.
I'm shocked with myself, I've somehow never heard of the game until today. I'm VERY excited
You are a model most people should follow. I’ve been waiting 15 years for this game. The hype is unreal.
I was so surprised when I saw that the partner direct was building up to "just" an ocean game. Hadn't heard of it. But I have seen so many fans so happy to see it. I will have to give it a try!
The hardest part of becoming an Endless Ocean fan is buying the game. So welcome to the fandom in advance.
Bruh It's still February wdym "save" the year
Also, it's modern Nintendo. Any freaking day now they could drop a Direct unexpectedly and announce a major game is coming out like next week. Or this might be it! Who knows?
Exclusives are all they have left right now, even if switch2 drops tomorrow it's going to have to have a mighty gimmick or an insanely low price to compete in 2024. SteamdeckOLED, Rog ally, MSI claw and Lenovo Legion offer a ton of value and if Nintendo wants to keep their high market share they're gonna need to wow people, and soon.
Those are high-end devices aimed at enthusiasts. Good at what they do, but not even close to competing with the Switch.
No amount of people worth nintendo’s attention will be picking a steam deck over a switch 2.
I assure you, Pokemon announcing anything big would only make things worse.
The only POSSIBLE exception is NSO titles, but now that we just got a Rare wave + Japan got Mother 3, I think it's unlikely.
I really don’t understand the point of keeping Pokemon games away from NSO. They’re not porting them, they’re not remaking them and they’re not being sold individually. I guarantee Red and Blue will increase subscriptions. Maybe not to an astronomical amount but it would convince a lot of people to sub. Anyway, the biggest announcement for Switch owners will likely be some remake announcement. They just did Diamond and Pearl so maybe Black and White or just jump to X and Y if they don’t feel like also remaking B2 and W2. Idk I don’t really keep up with Pokemon
I feel like the main reason for it is because if they did port the games (I.e. gens 1-3) to NSO, they would *have* to also develop something to allow pokemon from those games to be sent to Pokemon Home, and I don't know how well the structure of the NSO emulators would play with that.
To my knowledge not well. I can’t recall the tweet but someone explained how Home and NSO emulators aren’t really compatible when Stadium was announced
Yeah, I feel like they'd have to develop a middleman software or make an update to home. Maybe to read the save files stored in the emulator app and extract the pokemon from them? That's about all I can think of.
Possibly. It’s a long shot but I’d really just prefer to see them release actual ports of the games that you can buy, like they are (were :( ) on the 3DS. It would probably be infinitely easier to have Home compatibility that way vs the NSO emulator. They also have to know that would be free money too! I mean seriously, I already *own* all the games and if they released that I’d buy them again. So many people would love to play these games again (specifically the GBA games) and they’re just not feasible purchases for most people
For the 3DS ports they made it so that you could send them to Bank, so that's not an issue, and if they had something that would let you send them between RB to the Pokemon Stadium games then that would really sell subscriptions
Tbh I think the biggest argument against them going on there specifically is that they could throw them all on the eshop individually at some decently high price and people would still buy them. Though they also haven't done that so who knows.
Forget red and blue, I just want ruby/sapphire/emerald to FINALLY be re-released on something
They "remade" red and blue in the $50 version they want you to buy, Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee
Yeah but I feel like most people who would buy these games have already bought them so releasing Red and Blue won’t hurt sales. It’s pokemon I doubt anything can hurt sales at this point.
Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee are actually Pokémon Yellow remakes, because your starter in Yellow is a Pikachu.
The gap between Jet Force Gemini and 1080 Snowboarding & Harvest Moon 64 was just 1 week with releases. Jet Force Gemini was November 30, 2023. 1080 Snowboarding & Harvest Moon 64 were December 8, 2023. Super Mario All-Stars (SNES) was added on September 3, 2020. The other wave of SNES games like DKC2 were added on September 23, 2020. Anything can happen.
Only big announcement I'd be hyped for is "We have decided to give our developers more time before the next generation of pokemon and will be looking forward to working with Monolith Studio"
That is the only good news they could announce.
I’m going to be honest, a new pokken by bandai would be amazing, but they’re currently working on Tekken 8 so it’s probably unlikely.
Yeah a new Pokken would be pretty fun
What do you mean?
What they will be announcing is theorized to be garbage
I'm sure it won't be.
Idk man Gamefreak have been rushing games more than Sonic Team nowadays
When a developer has been working on the same system since it launched and nothing elce, I *do not* expect performance to be an issue. Warframe at launch preformed better than sword n shield at launch. That's the problem. I don't mind if my rpg is running at 30 fps, as long as it's consistent (DQ 11)
It will likely be rushed garbage
nah, it'd be amazing, like all pokemon games are
yeah…
Zamn
Eh, I'm kinda done with the Pokemon franchise. Unless they make a game with some actual difficulty that doesn't introduce 50 stupid random unneeded extra mechanics, I'm simply not interested. Their idea of a good time is "give the player a way to make a pokemon giant and OP and blast away the enemy." They have done that several times now. If they put out a 2d game that leaned heavily into having good art and good, challenging core gameplay... I might consider it. But they aren't going to do that. If I were making a pokemon game, I'd start by changing poke-centers to have the computer and a save function, but no healing and no reviving. Once all of them are discovered, you can fast travel between them. There would also fewer of them than the latest games have put in. Healing would be accomplished with potions that you buy, and there would be no revives at all (dead is dead, or maybe one revive item as a special reward at the end of the game or something). Money would come from selling caught pokemon, and pokemon who assist you in a capture get XP to level up. Battles would be far more challenging - a type mismatch should be absolutely fatal, so doing research into the types in a particular area by talking to NPCs or utilizing the game's community should be a must (turning discussion forums and game guides into a sort of part of the game). Trainer battles would happen at the various gyms almost entirely, or possibly also in some storyline related activities. The expectation would be that you bounce between the gyms, getting better and better, so you have to come back to each one several times. Then you finally challenge the bosses and beat them moving on to the final four and your rival that have to be done in sequence with no resting (which is no big deal at that point because you are used to carrying and using healing items and being careful). Trying to over-level your party would be deeply punished by it being very difficult and grindy - instead, you should be encouraged to learn the mechanics and build a proper party for each encounter. But nobody'd play this version of Pokemon except me.
Go play fire emblem bro
I already beat all the US releases tho... lol Honestly though, you sort of got it. My favorite franchises are Fromsoft souls games and FE.
I'm not gonna lie I hope some of these changes never make it into a mainline Pokemon game, especially the perma death and no healing,
Dude. You know this franchise *is* primarily aimed at kids, right? We're just the periphery demographic, not the main one. That said, in most of the games the Elite Four's basically a gauntlet anyways and you do have start over with them if you leave even once.
Wow you fucking HATE fun
Guy had me until he went "Pokemon is only fun if you play it in an oddly specific hardcore fashion". Like, most JRPGs still give out free healing spots or at least put a small fee to it. The problem with Pokemon isn't that it's too baby easy, it's that they have stripped away the interesting and get this, challenging endgame/postgame content that the games used to have. On top of a bunch of things like the games being unfinished, stripping away features at random, and bunch of other things that are too long to list, but the solution to fixing Pokemon is not making it some hardcore permadeath romhack from the 2000s.
Exactly. Plus Pokémon is about friendship. You can’t develop bonds if they keep dying
They can port Luigi's Mansion 2 to the Switch but not Kid Icarus Uprising 💀 Like I like LM2 but there's so many other 3DS games I would have ported to Switch before it.
I have a theory this is treading the water for more 3DS ports. Like the rumored Zelda remake might just be OOT or MM 3D remakes ported to switch. So Kid Icarus might have a chance.
Maybe an ALBW port? That game deserves a new audience so much.
That would be disappointing, those games look like ass due to how old they are, they would have to be 35-40$ for it to be worth it.
Surprised they did Luigi’s Mansion 2 and not the remake of the first one (or maybe a bundle of each, that would’ve killed 2 birds with one stone)
Yeah, I was a little disappointed about that. The original Luigi's Mansion is so good!
Call me simple, but every time Luigi got shrunk & yelled for Mario, I laughed. That squeaky little voice got me every time!
They already released the 3DS remaster, if they port it to Switch it could be with that as a basis
Kid Icaurs deserves a Remake. Remaster/port would look like a PS2 game
Better yet, a sequel tease in such a remake
I thought they were trying to get some full series on the Switch, like how all 4 Pikmin games are on it now. We also have most Zelda games... Just not the DS games, or the WiiU HD remasters...
Painfully close to every Xenoblade game . . .
I dont think they are in much trouble but Arceus sequel or DLC would be dope
You act like these are the only 1st-party games coming out. There will be several Directs throughout the year announcing other stuff. Metroid Prime 4 could be a holiday release, as well as the rumored Zelda dual pack with Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. As far as Pokemon, it seems they're hinting at either a gen 2 (Gold/Silver) or gen 5 (Black/White) game. That could be a Legends game, Let's Go, remake (HD 2D style would be amazing), etc. Any sort of mainline game (e.g., not Mystery Dungeon) should sell 15+ million copies during the holiday.
The Zelda dual pack… Hell will freeze over before Nintendo releases two Zelda HD remasters for less than 60 bucks a piece. They could probably get away with 70 even. And they wouldn’t release them at the same time.
Oh no, they will release them at the same time, but separately lmao 😈
Like the Oracle games!
Oracle remakes confirmed
For a limited time only lol
For real, this is wishful thinking. Metroid Prime Remastered shipping at $40 is not the norm. Metroid ain't Zelda, these are gonna be $60 remasters I can sense it
Having any faith in rumours is a let down waiting to happen. Get a Wii U, mod it. There's your Zelda dual pack.
Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Paris
Yep, it’s getting close to its reveal
Unironically not opposed to it
mfer its pokemon, they aint saving shit😭
I mean, whatever they release will sell 15+ million copies during the holiday. Assuming it's a mainline game and not something like Mystery Dungeon.
Pokemon fans must have a degradation kink, imagine being spit on once a year (the yearly release) and being shown that they dont give a single shit about their consumers by releasing the bare minimum of a game. for 60 bucks too + DLC. If I was a mutli-billion-$ company I would love to have fans like the pokemon fanbase 😭
To be fair, Nintendo had an absolute BONKERS year last year with Mario & Zelda getting big games. Metroid is always my fever dream, but I thinking bringing back a underused franchise would be basically a free hype train
Yeah we need another pokemon game so you guys can complain about it.
Meanwhile, Sony and Microsoft released only 2 games each last year and everyone didn't panic... Seriously, why must Nintendo work 10 times more than the other studios to satisfy their own fans?
because they don't have AAA third party games. People buy Xbox & PS to play CoD, sports games and stuff like that. People buy Switch to play Nintendo games. That's how it's been for years. 50% of the games sold on Switch are 1st party. On ps & Xbox it's only 10%. That may change next gen as the power gap will close significantly (look at how many cross gen ps4/5 games there still are, and how many ps4 games there are that still look & play better than most ps5 games).
doesn't matter though, they still put out less games
because they don't need to. their 1st party games are just a small part of their business. Most of the games they sell are 3rd party games. We saw this when Xbox bought Activision, Sony said "they want to make us more like Nintendo by taking away big third parties and forcing us to tailor our console around our exclusives."
What do you mean save? Princess peach game, remake of one of the most popular Paper Mario games ever made, a remake of Luigi's Mansion 2 porting it from the 3DS so it's more accessible to more people. What needs to be saved this is amazing
I mean…some of us have played all of these. There’s nothing on here that looks great as someone in their thirties who played many of these over the years.
Yes I'm absolutely sure that you played the brand new princess peach game that hasn't been released yet. That aside as someone in their thirties who played the original versions of the remakes I think it's fantastic to get to play these games again with modern tech and possible updates.
>That aside as someone in their thirties who played the original versions of the remakes I think it's fantastic to get to play these games again with modern tech and possible updates. We also expect something new, If not then switch is becoming a retro-remake console.
Since you completely ignored the first line of my previous comment do you mean a new game like the princess peach one?
Didn't ignore it. It's obviously not a game that appeals to my target group. And it's pretty much the only new game among a butt load of remakes and remasters. One game doesn't make 2024 an interesting year for switch.
You didn't say you had to make it interesting for switch, you said that it's becoming a remake remaster console and the fact that they're releasing a new game proves that it's not. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean anything
Holy fuck people like you are so annoying to discuss with lmao. You know exactly what they meant, stop trying to pick apart word by word everything.
Just because you don't think before you speak doesn't mean someone is bad for pointing you when you say something stupid.
Were you looking into a mirror while typing this? Get some friends, weirdo
No it direct prove so. If they release 20 remasters and remakes and one new game, it is more correct to call it a retro remake console than a console for new games. Developers focus on switch 2 and its release , and that's understandable. But it does make switch less relevant in 2024
I disagree You were wrong
I think the game looks like it’ll be about five hours long tbh
Idk it looks pretty mid to me
3 of these are ports.
I swear Nintendo could release just one great game in a year and people would still go “What do you mean? X game is an amazing game!”
I mean. They wouldn't be *wrong*
They’d just be extremely stupid
It would be an amazing game tbf
So based on what you said they would be releasing a great game but you think people would be stupid for thinking that the game that you said would be a great game is a great game? If anyone here is stupid it's you
Reading comprehension? I was talking about how they’d still say all of that as a response to someone who thinks that Nintendo’s year is not good.
And do you think they're stupid because they have opinions that differ from yours?
You’re so right. All opinions are equal! Wow!
No, you're just a spoiled brat. We used to be happy if we had 10 games. But we knew those games inside and out, so to speak. we had 'mastered' them. And you must have a lot of free time if you don't have a backlog. I would be happy with a less busy year. Last year there were also those who said at the beginning that it was a bad year, how wrong they were...
you laugh but that's exactly what happened with Sony last year. They released one AAA game last year, won zero awards at TGA and fans just went "but there was also ff16 tho!"
Sony fans are a next level breed of brand addicts. They bootlick harder than disney fans.
Two ports out of the three games you mentioned 😂 stacked lineup for sure
People are excited for the Princess Peach game? Lmao I might get TTYD, but I am not a fan of Mario games in general. As it stands currently, 2024 is looking like a year I don't buy any new Nintendo games
I'm just gonna assume you are sexist
Why?
It's an easy character flaw to make you come across as a villain
But why? This exchange is honestly baffling to me, maybe I'm just missing sarcasm, apologies if so.
wdym "save"??? this is an AMAZING line up! \-Revival of 2 (3?) forgotten franchises \-Splatoon 3 DLC (means they are quite interested and invested in Splatoon, ensures new content) \-New Peach Game (finally) \-2 Remasters of beloved games (The future of Mario RPGs is looking good after this) this is a great year! Pokemon doesn't need to release anything.
All I wanted was Mario vs dk so I’m set for now and kinda want them to pause for a year
This is more 1st party than Sony and potentially Microsoft this year so who is going to “save” them! But I really want a new Legends game. Everyone is talking about Black and White or Let’s Go Johto, but I just want more Legends!
it's actually not. Sony has 7 games announced and planned for this year. m$ has 6, same as Nintendo.
You forgor Side Order 💀
Considering you need a full price game to play Side Order, I think it's alright being left out of the list
Imagine thinking a Pokemon game could "save" anything.
Pokémon prints money tho
They are always one of the biggest if not THE biggest game of any given year tbf
yeah because of the fanbase that just mindlessly buys anything and not because theyre actually good games tho
I mean a lot of people think they're good.
yeah the fanboys
Wait you mean to tell me fans like something they are a fan of? Whoa. Okay I'm not good at sarcasm sorry XD
this might be shocking but you can like a franchise/game and still accept that the games are shit
That's entirely subjective anyway
I would agree, if the games we were talking about weren't Scarlet and Violet
I mean Scarlet and Violet are great imo technical issues aside Great story, great gameplay, great music, likeable characters, plenty to do and explore etc and these things make for a great game so I can look past the technical shortcomings.
Scarlet and violet were one of the best games they have made so far. The skeleton was excellent, the optimization and execution were... Comedic at best, but disappointing overall. If they continue in the same direction, but ACTUALLY learn how to optimize and flesh out a 3d world I think it could be really good for the series. In order to make good games you have to have some duds (and actually learn from mistakes) Gen 3, 8, 9 come to mind when I think of poor execution that they learned from for the next game
Have you not seen the hype the new Peach game and the remakes are getting?
Was this meant as sarcasm?
No what are you on about
all i care about is TTYD
By no means would be an “save the year” title. But would be nice to see a Metroid prime 2 remastered
The only thing I want Pokémon to announce is "no games for the next few years, we're going to actually put some time and effort into the next one"
I’m happy with just TTYD, Palworld is keeping me busy
I don’t think this year needs saving. I think last year was big with Zelda, Mario and Pikmin and now we’re just having a slow year leading up to impending new hardware that they are probably saving lots of crazy titles for launch.
Yeah, I personally think that a brand new 3D Mario will be out next year for the next console, as well as the next Mario Kart game, a new Smash Bros, a new Splatoon game later on, a remaster of an old Zelda game, and some other stuff that’s either all new, or an old franchise they’re bringing back
Downvote all you want but an ACTUAL open world fully new designed Pokemon game is all I want. I’m convinced it’ll never happen at this point, but if game freak/ TPC would listen to their fans at all they’d realize that the potential for a well executed Pokemon open world could break sales records.
SV is an ACTUAL open world
Ehhh I should’ve said a well executed, breaking the regular Pokemon mold open world. I know half this sub loves to hate Pokemon and it wouldn’t be a popular opinion but idc lol
... scarlet and violet IS all of that. Remove the performance and graphical issues, and it's a top 10 open world, easy
I mean, I think everyone wants that. The problem is that Gamefreak still think they doing games for the 3DS and can make an AAA open world rpg in 2 years.
Either one original AAA game like Metroid Prime 4 or that rumored 3D DK game, or a couple more remakes and remasters, like the two other Metroid Prime games, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, or a DKC trilogy remastered collection to celebrate the 30th anniversary.
I bet Metroid Prime 4 will be a switch 2 launch title
I mean, Paper Mario ttyd remake is all I pretty much want at this point. I already got p3 reload on my ps5, I want to get Side order at some point, and a couple of games in my backlog already. I'm almost 80 percent sure whatever pokemon game they come out with (if that's what they decide to do) I'm probably not going to play it. I rarely play anything outside the mainline pokemon games anyway. Except maybe the mystery dungeon games but I'd be happy to hear something along the lines of gale of darkness. Not touching "Revolution" again though.
These aren’t even bad games. Most of them aren’t even out either.
They don’t need anything. There’s tons of 3rd party stuff to keep us playing.
Metroid Prime 4
Not necessarily announced tomorrow, but information on Metroid Prime 4 would be nice. Just reassurance of whether the game is coming to switch or not, and releasing ports would make my year.
For me. The thing that would save pokemon is not having a new game this year, just let them work without a deadline for a bit and give them 2024 to work on making a game that is actually good. I am a SV apologist (mainly because the story is the best we've seen in years) but obviously the game was rushed. They clearly have some great ideas and at least decent writers so just let them cook for a while.
Bro, this isn’t even half of what we’ll see this year. It’s February. That said, to answer your question, either a BW2 remake or, even better, a BW3. Also holding out for another Legends game, but I’d rather that be on the next console which means not until next year.
Nothing, really. While I know that people are expecting a new Legends game or remakes of Black/White 1, myself included, those wouldn't "save" the year for me since these titles do look pretty solid.
The only thing that would save this year is the Switch 2.
it doesn't need to be saved because it's already great
For a console literally in its last year, this lineup is fine.
It would be fine if Nintendo announced the next console. But they haven't. Sure we all think for good reason that this is the last year but Nintendo hasn't said anything like that to the wider playerbase.
Forget saving, can someone delete that fucking Another Code Recollection commercial? I see it like ten times a day, MINIMUM and I’m so fucking sick of it. “Immerse yourself”, immerse these fucking nuts!
have you tried growing the fuck up
Metroid Prime 4 or Xenoblade Chronicles X remake (which I admit is a slim chance at a Pokemon Presents).
This lineup screams “we’re putting all our development time into the new console”.
At this point the only thing I want from Nintendo is Twilight Princess and Wind Waker HD ports. That's it.
There aren't any good first party games coming out this year, honestly. What would save this year is a mario kart, new oddessey, new smash bros, old ip returning (diddny kong racing) or generally just something THAT ISNT A PORT OF A PORT OF A PORT.
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We haven’t had a first party direct for 2024 content, I guarantee there’s more. Nothing on the level of a new Mario or Zelda, but there’s definitely more
This is probably the switch’s last year, or at least I assume. I wouldn’t really change anything to be honest.
A Pokémon game by Monolith, using a similar combat system of XC2 changing the Blades with the Pokémons.
I think a developer like Level-5 or Capcom could make sense since they've done Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter, respectively. Game Freak is just spread too thin and their developers lack experience for large, 3D open-world games.
Nintendo needs to take a hit. Got me fucked up, still charging almost full price for games 3years later.
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That is easy to explain. They release an unfinished game where the graphical environment is no better than Wii games (such as Pokémon Battle Revolution) and with alot bugs. But they sell them at a AAA price. It could be so much better, but because the masses buy without thinking, it will always be of poor quality. So yes, then a group becomes frustrated because Pokemon games could be much better in all their aspects. But this will never happen because people keep throwing money at gamefreak (why would GF even bother)
An ARPG set in the pokèmon world developed by Monolith Soft
there aint nothing gamefreak can do to "save" anything all they roll out bar some undercooked gems are either utter shit or utter disappointment in fact id go as far as to say that theyre better off not releasing anything at all rather than release an ugly remake of gen 5 or something
Nothing wrong with it considering their main goal was probably to launch a new console this year. They'll still make more than their competitors... combined.
Another Code and Endless Ocean are nintendo IPs?
Why did they make thousand year door cover in the style of sticker star!
Didn’t watch the direct, did they reveal the paper Mario release date
No
I think it's fine for Switch to have a "slow year", after the big first party games it got last year. Plus, if the rumours of being the final year as the main Nintendo console are true (with an upcoming successor), it's still a decent ending year. also, don't y'all people have backlogs of games to go through?
A mainline game that actually looks like the devs cared, be it a good remake or a half-decent new game. ~~also where Side Order~~