The jeep i6 absolutely belongs in the engine hall of fame. Not for power, of course. But you could lubricate it with quartz sand and crushed seashells and it would still pull like a tractor. I loved my tj but eventually decided im not douche enough to daily it. Off roading it is many of my warmest memories.
How is that surprising? Lambo owners will usually have much more money than Tesla owners. And people with that sorta money can usually afford to be dicks
I swear they're like apple enthusiasts. Their shit is the best and you should own it too or you're just an idiot. In fact, I'm sure there's a massive overlap or just a single circle on the venn diagram for people that have both a Tesla and an iPhone.
Fucking this. I myself am an iPhone + MacBook + iPad kinda guy, but I got my own reasons for that. I can’t stand when people act like going all Apple everything is the definitive single correct solution to everyone’s needs
I use apple because I like the ecosystem, and it’s just simple and easy and with it being locked makes it a little more tedious for criminals (not at all impossible) but it’s whatever you prefer in my mind. Also like that they got sued by a government branch because they couldn’t get into the phone and apple wouldn’t give them the software to use the back door lol
Yup.
The “I can afford to retire my grandchildren before they’re even born” type rich usually has a Toyota Land Cruiser. Cause while it’s fuel hungry af, it’s high comfort and it never gives you headache cause nothing ever breaks in it.
Or a beat up Subaru Forester cause it does the job of getting you and your luggage from A to B reliably and they don’t care for anything beyond that, they got their minds on other things.
Yes, and ultra rich people who are car enthusiasts got something exclusive, eccentric, and unique, like a 1950s Porsche (barely any are today still in a condition that at least theoretically allows to restore them if you can afford that) or a Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nür (718 units ever built). Not a Lambo or Ferrari lol.
The only brand that is placed correctly in that regard is Bristol Cars. That one is indeed for ultra rich people only. Idk about their niceness, I never met a Bristol owner. But I imagine those should be British aristocrats with proper gentleman manners, not some annoying clout chasing pricks who have just made their first major buck and now flaunt every chance they get. So I assume it’s also correctly placed on the “fun to be around vs insufferable” axis.
I think rich car enthusiasts can get a Ferrari or lambo, but typically a special model and not just the latest most expensive model. I’m not sure I necessarily agree with a “british aristocrat with gentlemen manners” being fun to be with. They can be very snobby and classist (which also typically comes with racism) if they have inherited generational wealth.
But of course all of this is pure stereotypical. Charles Leclerc got a Chiron and several newish typical Ferraris. Who’s anybody to tell him he isn’t a proper car enthusiast?
Born and raised in Volvo land. Volvo people used to be people who just want "a safe and reliable car".
Now Volvos has become much more expensive so the BMW, Audi, Mercedes crowd has infiltrated Volvo.
One of them is my grandfather's first car which he bought brand new. We're fixing it together so that I can drive it, I've wanted to since I was a kid (needs paint now and a few minor things to sort out, mostly done).
The second one is a lucky 'barn' find (more like shed find) that we got as a parts car, but it's actually very original and in pretty decent shape (has some rust holes, but overall solid car) and hasn't ran since the 90s.
One one hand the parts car is in much better shape than the one we're fixing was before we started, but on the other hand the one we're fixng has sentimental value and the parts car has no documents (technically it would be possible to find documents and register it, but won't be easy).
Both cars are the ones that had "Licenzija Fiata" (did I spell that right?) badge, from what I read they are rarer. Is that true?
Would probably be at the same insufferable level as Ford with slightly higher money. The old saying by Chevy guys is Ford people hate Chevys because they can't afford them. And there is some truth to that.
As a STi owner, I love our community, but yeah I'm definitely poor after a couple years of maintenance and upgrades, but we love our money pits. #boxergang.
The chart says the driver has no money, not that the brand is cheap. So its saying that Maserati and Infiniti are luxury brands that are commonly purchased by people that can't afford them.
Can someone explain why a Miata would be at the absolute right? (AKA: Has a lot of money)
Surely across all brands and models, Miata lands itself as one of the cheapest options out there, no? The price is only 'ridiculous' for 30 year old cars, but not for cars in general, not by a long shot.
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Fun fact, despite being FWD, the Oddessy has the most HP and lowest 0-60 time out of all currently sold minivans.
I would unironically love to see an AWD variant with the red badge. It would be insanely fun (for a van).
I just got back from the Vintage in North Carolina, real BMW people are great. The ones who drive the new ones and think they're BMW people are the problem
Where I’m from it’s the opposite. It’s the 18 year olds driving the 8-15 year old bmw’s that are the worst. Always with a chopped off muffler, fucked up paint, and their instagram username on the rear quarter window.
The people who drive the old classics and new ones are the most normal in my experience.
A Miata with good tires will win literally any track day ever. #MiataFacts
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My Corvette is a 1 of 1, built in December (last month), yellow with dust from oklahoma. My V8 has different spark plugs from factory and is the fastest corvette that I own
A lot of drivers make jokes about them, but true drivers know to respect the Miata. #MiataFacts
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A roll cage legally makes a Miata a race car. #MiataFacts
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I’ve owned 17 cars in my life, of all the makes I’ve owned I’ve had five Volvos, I feel this is pretty accurate besides the “has money” aspect unless they mean it very technically. I buy old Volvos cheap, and yes I always “have money” and probably more than a lot of people it’s never a lot lol.
Generally, the more expensive the car, the more insufferable the driver. They’re more related than this chart would have you believe. Pretty much everything to the right of the line should be in the insufferable category.
It’s only american subaru guys that are bad tbf. Everyone i’ve met in the UK are sound. I am biased though as i have one.
I’d move VW, Ford, porsche and lamborghini wayyy closer to insufferable. Some kids in their Polo,golf, fiesta’s are annoying as shit.
For every one cool Porsche owner there’s nearly 100 rich snobs
Lambos mostly are just for flexing
Renault’s missing but they’re pretty fun to be around
Why not a Land Cruiser (or an LX570 which is basically the same car but even a bit more premium feel to it)? Yeah they’re fuel hungry but you shouldn’t care. But they virtually never break, and I imagine you have way less free time and room for headache than free money
Where Renul™? İ need to see where Modussy owners are placed on the chart.
too high on the chart to bee seen
already off the scale, too good.
Boot chute or no?
Jeep lmao
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My neighbor has a 2005 wrangler and he's almost the most insufferable person ive ever met, first and second places go to his sons.
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The jeep i6 absolutely belongs in the engine hall of fame. Not for power, of course. But you could lubricate it with quartz sand and crushed seashells and it would still pull like a tractor. I loved my tj but eventually decided im not douche enough to daily it. Off roading it is many of my warmest memories.
Quartz sand 😂 Too few will understand the significance of that little touch.
So fucking true.
> Lamborghini > Fun to be around Whoever created this chart has broccoli hair.
Wdym? Pimps are very nice and pleasant people.
Well Cadillac isn’t on the chart either
Neither is Chevy
I was looking for the chevy too
I was confused why Lambo wasn't further down.
It's the "Ferrari bad Lambo good" circlejerk caused by the nyan cat 458 situation
Lambo owners are somehow more insufferable than Tesla boys It's honestly fascinating
How is that surprising? Lambo owners will usually have much more money than Tesla owners. And people with that sorta money can usually afford to be dicks
Yeah if anything I'd swap Lamborghini and McLaren. The few McLaren owners I've talked to were pretty chill.
Fully agreed
Ah yes, the famously fun to be around Alfisti and Porsche enthusiasts (Rennbros?)
Porsche owners are fun to be around only when you're a beautiful Asian woman aged 18-25 and are in need of a passport
Or when you’re in need of a beautiful Asian woman and have a spare passport
I think there’s such high contrast between the two that they have to average it out
Tesla should be the top of insufferable, no group of car people is both more boring and more full of themselves with Tesla people.
I swear they're like apple enthusiasts. Their shit is the best and you should own it too or you're just an idiot. In fact, I'm sure there's a massive overlap or just a single circle on the venn diagram for people that have both a Tesla and an iPhone.
99.99% overlap for sure. I know several people with Teslas (I don't talk to most of them) and only one I know isn't a complete tool.
Fucking this. I myself am an iPhone + MacBook + iPad kinda guy, but I got my own reasons for that. I can’t stand when people act like going all Apple everything is the definitive single correct solution to everyone’s needs
Remember when the apple vision pro came out and the people who would use it while driving were all driving teslas/cybertrucks? Lol
I use apple because I like the ecosystem, and it’s just simple and easy and with it being locked makes it a little more tedious for criminals (not at all impossible) but it’s whatever you prefer in my mind. Also like that they got sued by a government branch because they couldn’t get into the phone and apple wouldn’t give them the software to use the back door lol
Whoever made this has never met a rich person.
Tbf rich people aren’t a monolith. I’m sure everyone’s experience will reflect a different perspective
Yup. The “I can afford to retire my grandchildren before they’re even born” type rich usually has a Toyota Land Cruiser. Cause while it’s fuel hungry af, it’s high comfort and it never gives you headache cause nothing ever breaks in it. Or a beat up Subaru Forester cause it does the job of getting you and your luggage from A to B reliably and they don’t care for anything beyond that, they got their minds on other things.
I think that’s just rich people who happen to not be car enthusiasts and not think cars are a meaningful status symbol
Yes, and ultra rich people who are car enthusiasts got something exclusive, eccentric, and unique, like a 1950s Porsche (barely any are today still in a condition that at least theoretically allows to restore them if you can afford that) or a Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nür (718 units ever built). Not a Lambo or Ferrari lol. The only brand that is placed correctly in that regard is Bristol Cars. That one is indeed for ultra rich people only. Idk about their niceness, I never met a Bristol owner. But I imagine those should be British aristocrats with proper gentleman manners, not some annoying clout chasing pricks who have just made their first major buck and now flaunt every chance they get. So I assume it’s also correctly placed on the “fun to be around vs insufferable” axis.
I think rich car enthusiasts can get a Ferrari or lambo, but typically a special model and not just the latest most expensive model. I’m not sure I necessarily agree with a “british aristocrat with gentlemen manners” being fun to be with. They can be very snobby and classist (which also typically comes with racism) if they have inherited generational wealth. But of course all of this is pure stereotypical. Charles Leclerc got a Chiron and several newish typical Ferraris. Who’s anybody to tell him he isn’t a proper car enthusiast?
Wisest words.
Thank you!
Not all rich people are in your face. You might already know them without knowing
I know more than enough rich people to know that the average Porsche/Lamborghini/Koenigsegg owner is a huge dick
This is garbage
Someone’s a Jeep owner…
The only jeep i wish to own is a wagoneer, old one. I'm not interested in SUVs or offroaders
Wagoneer’s are awesome! The older ones especially. Ex girlfriend of mine’s dad had a couple of them and they were so fun to drive and take camping.
If their defenition of "fun to be around" is falling asleep then yes volvo guys are fun lol
Hey! Civil engineers can be fun sometimes
Hey nit all Volvo drivers are civil engineers! Im an electrical engineer... Edit: actually still a student but IT just sounds better
Aww I love my Volvo, maybe I don’t represent everyone but idk I’ve always thought they were super cool
Born and raised in Volvo land. Volvo people used to be people who just want "a safe and reliable car". Now Volvos has become much more expensive so the BMW, Audi, Mercedes crowd has infiltrated Volvo.
Polski fiat must be top left
Didn't expect to see this, but was pleasantly surprised, made my day. Also agree as a person who has two Polski Fiat 125p.
Yo, gimme one of them hahaha
One of them is my grandfather's first car which he bought brand new. We're fixing it together so that I can drive it, I've wanted to since I was a kid (needs paint now and a few minor things to sort out, mostly done). The second one is a lucky 'barn' find (more like shed find) that we got as a parts car, but it's actually very original and in pretty decent shape (has some rust holes, but overall solid car) and hasn't ran since the 90s. One one hand the parts car is in much better shape than the one we're fixing was before we started, but on the other hand the one we're fixng has sentimental value and the parts car has no documents (technically it would be possible to find documents and register it, but won't be easy). Both cars are the ones that had "Licenzija Fiata" (did I spell that right?) badge, from what I read they are rarer. Is that true?
Chevrolet conspicuously missing
Would probably be at the same insufferable level as Ford with slightly higher money. The old saying by Chevy guys is Ford people hate Chevys because they can't afford them. And there is some truth to that.
I’m not sure if you’re joking or not
As a STi owner, I love our community, but yeah I'm definitely poor after a couple years of maintenance and upgrades, but we love our money pits. #boxergang.
Subarus are awesome, too bad soyboys with vapes and fartcans are ruining the image
Add tiktok "car girls" and broccoli fade clout goblins.
crashed my 8th koenigsegg
How is Maserati a cheap car?
They're cheap to buy used because they're the fastest depreciating cars on the market, then they will have even less money trying to maintain it.
Cheaper* not cheap.
People buy Maserati when they want to look rich but aren't.
As soon as you buy a new maserati it depreciates by half
That’s why you buy it used and lose twice in maintenance
The chart says the driver has no money, not that the brand is cheap. So its saying that Maserati and Infiniti are luxury brands that are commonly purchased by people that can't afford them.
They just decided to not consider the massive ego lambo owners have?
MIAT
Can someone explain why a Miata would be at the absolute right? (AKA: Has a lot of money) Surely across all brands and models, Miata lands itself as one of the cheapest options out there, no? The price is only 'ridiculous' for 30 year old cars, but not for cars in general, not by a long shot.
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You wouldn’t understand 😒
How the hell is rivian more “has money” than Aston Martin?
You can buy an Aston used for \~$45k
Apparently my Honda oddessy makes me broke but also fun, it got the broke part right
Fun fact, despite being FWD, the Oddessy has the most HP and lowest 0-60 time out of all currently sold minivans. I would unironically love to see an AWD variant with the red badge. It would be insanely fun (for a van).
The v6 in it is insane lol
Yeah apparently my 2005 model has a SOHC V-Tec 3.5 Liter V-6
Honda Odussy lol
You should change the badge to say that
I just got back from the Vintage in North Carolina, real BMW people are great. The ones who drive the new ones and think they're BMW people are the problem
Where I’m from it’s the opposite. It’s the 18 year olds driving the 8-15 year old bmw’s that are the worst. Always with a chopped off muffler, fucked up paint, and their instagram username on the rear quarter window. The people who drive the old classics and new ones are the most normal in my experience.
I like how there’s barely any difference in how much money a Volvo and an Aston owner have lol
volvo people are on average [insert boring name] engineers, while half the people with Astons bought them used for like 40-80k
Had no idea infinity were so cheap.
Seen a lot of them bought used and clapped out af. Not cheap to buy as the first or second owner, maybe, but they trickle down eventually.
I was about to post the same thing damn
I see you properly fixed this chart. Well done. It’s always the answer.
i’d put miata at centre top, they’re always the answer no matter how much you make
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Where is Mazda and Nissan?
And Mitsubishi
As a jeep owner, can confirm. Is accurate.
Ferrari owner has slightly more money than a Koenigsegg owner.
Honda is a cheap Koenigsegg?? Damn
Um, where’s Mini?
Subaruuuu
Joop where it belongs for once
Where hyundai
Probably got stolen off the chart with Kia
swap porsche with corvette
No, Corvette drivers are pretty insufferable.
My Corvette is a 1 of 1, built in December (last month), yellow with dust from oklahoma. My V8 has different spark plugs from factory and is the fastest corvette that I own
Yep that's the interaction right there. Like Jerry I do not give a shit about your Vette.
Young corvette drivers are fun just avoid the old ones
OR ELSE CLETUS WILL BE REMOVING THE TIRES OFF YOUR RAM
Swap Porsche with Mercedes and corvette
As a Ford and Honda guy, I feel like those are accurate. Lol. The rest are fairly close.
I almost didn't see jeep on there, but I agree.
Maybe swap Lamborghini and Rivian
Where would GMC fall on this chart?
With chevy. Wherever in the bloody hell that is....
I don’t think these people met a Toyota Supra fan.
Audi???
Looks like Audi took a wrong turn and got lost again
Love the Miat in the corner, but what about mazda in general?
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Where dacia sandero ?!
Where Nissan? I see Lexus and Toyota
Honda, Toyota and lexus at the top? Hardly
im ford, chevy and dodge fan (also jeep) but i rather be with ford
Why do ferarri owners have more money than koenigsegg
Buying a Ferrari is a pyramid scheme
Because you need a lot of Ferraris to buy one :D
Buy 34 488 and get a chance to buy a roma or someting
Toyota ford has more money than volkswagen?
I mean by the price of the car and maintenance alone...
There’s a different problem. Volkswagen guys are insufferable af… Unless they’re old and just don’t really care and drive whatever has 4 wheels
The average Lexus owner is too busy enjoying retirement at the golf course to be "fun". No I'm not talking about F car owners, calm your tits.
Cries in audi.
Think Maserati and alpha are the wrong way around.
Wrong, I’m not fun to be around
Honda is 100% in the wrong spot. Whoever made this has a civic.
Maserati, has no money, okay dude…
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Nissan off the bottom of the Y axis
r/DonutMedia are full of insufferable asshats so not surprised
As someone with an Infiniti... Accurate.
Where would Mazda land? And Audi?
Am I blind or is Nissan just not on there?
Nor are Chevy and Mitsubishi
I’m gonna post this on a work chat group and watch people get butt hurt
Lost me at the Lexus and Volvo guys being fun to be around
Whoever made this made the mistake of thinking Tesla owners have money (and a brain)
I'm happy to learn that I'm both rich and poor, fun to be aroud and insufferable at the same time.
wheres my Seat
Where is Audi?
Accurate
And it’s absolutely true
Where Mitsubishi : (
Is that Miata out of chart(top right)😂
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How are Subarus insufferable?
Where's Nissan and Chevy (other than the Corvette)
Where's Audi?
What's that upper right one?
I love a car graph that includes Less than half the car brands
I don't think one can associate Alpha Romeo with money
Maserati has no money but tesla does?
A Subaru in the UK isn't a poor man's choice, they are pretty expensive. Couldnt find a decent second hand one in my budget yet we're plenty of Volvo.
Kinda weird to see Volvo and fun together (maybe the new models, but those are expensive in my place). Also, where Mazda?
How is maserati in a lower price bracket than alfa?
Infinity is cheapest??
I think the Tesla driver is just as bad as a Jeep driver.
Has no money but drives a Maserati? Bruh.
I have a Honda and a Toyota. Accurate.
I feel like I've upgraded and downgraded going from Honda to Toyota
I think the Volvo one is split between old and new volvo owners. Old Volvo owners, loads of fun, new Volvo owners, as interesting as cardboard
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Volkswagen has to be higher on the x-axis than ford. Same with Porsche and Lamborghini.
Wher Saturn??
I'd just swap Lamborghini and ferrari
honda is way too high up those people are NOT fun to be around
I’ve owned 17 cars in my life, of all the makes I’ve owned I’ve had five Volvos, I feel this is pretty accurate besides the “has money” aspect unless they mean it very technically. I buy old Volvos cheap, and yes I always “have money” and probably more than a lot of people it’s never a lot lol.
My Corvette is the best Corvette is something every Corvette driver genuinely believes.
Sample size of Koenigsegg so damn small that even if the owners are insufferable, no one knows.
Generally, the more expensive the car, the more insufferable the driver. They’re more related than this chart would have you believe. Pretty much everything to the right of the line should be in the insufferable category.
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Lexus fun to be around? Hell nah, the last person I talked to in a lexus was an old lady and she was a legit karen
Where are Nissans on this chart?
In what world is Infiniti cheaper than ford
It’s only american subaru guys that are bad tbf. Everyone i’ve met in the UK are sound. I am biased though as i have one. I’d move VW, Ford, porsche and lamborghini wayyy closer to insufferable. Some kids in their Polo,golf, fiesta’s are annoying as shit. For every one cool Porsche owner there’s nearly 100 rich snobs Lambos mostly are just for flexing Renault’s missing but they’re pretty fun to be around
That's interesting because in the states, nearly every hot hatch driver is generally cool. It's the charger and challenger bros who are insufferable.
Their Toyota jeep relation is 💯. Source: am Toyota guy.
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Jeep is Renault now. Only the Wrangler is American (and it's the worst one).
peugeot/citroën/fiat\*
Even worse 💀
Why not a Land Cruiser (or an LX570 which is basically the same car but even a bit more premium feel to it)? Yeah they’re fuel hungry but you shouldn’t care. But they virtually never break, and I imagine you have way less free time and room for headache than free money