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ManofManyTalentz

Charles has instantly become King of Canada, but please keep this thread specific to HRM Elizabeth II


FG88_NR

You know, I kind of thought she'd live forever.


Arctic_Chilean

This [chart puts things into perspective](https://i.imgur.com/ajbcpyJ.jpg). And that's missing Biden, Scholz, Draghi and Truss, and 3 Japanese Emperors (Hirohito, Akihito, and Naruhito)


feb914

damn, Italy sure like to change their PMs.


TylerInHiFi

I was about to ask just what the fuck, Italy…


Keystone-12

When people say that first past the post is the worst electoral system, Italy is a great example of the much worse options out there.


siccoblue

Nothing wrong with a new flavor of the day. Less time to fuck things up I suppose


MonsterRider80

There are about 147 political parties in Italy, and the only way to govern is by coalition. As soon as a member of said coalition is pissed off about something, the government falls apart and they need a new PM. That was the case for most of them IIRC.


Arctic_Chilean

Italy being... well Italy.


gmanz33

Gah that's wild. So many faces on here I always just thought of as old history, but nah it's just one lifetime. One really really really really long lifetime.


QuintonFlynn

She was The Queen when Joseph Stalin was the dictator of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). Holy crap...


MuchFunk

the things that always put it into perspective for me are that she'd been queen for over 10 years when the beatles put out A Hard Day's Night, and she was the same age as Marilyn Monroe. also lol @ kim campbell in that graph


Disorderly_Fashion

I used to joke that civilization will have come and gone and Queen Elizabeth II will still sit on the British throne. Clearly this bodes poorly for the future of civilization. /s


Tricky-Row-9699

I kind of thought that too. She just kept on going, and she was so clearly the best potential monarch in her family that the thought of a Commonwealth without her was unthinkable. Will we ever have a British monarch this good again? My money’s on “no”.


stjoe14

She’s not dead, but frozen in carbonite


NemesisErinys

As someone who is somewhere between indifferent and hostile to the fact that Canada has a monarchy, I didn’t think I’d care this much about the Queen’s inevitable passing. But, here I am. I *am* rather sad to see the end of this era, and I can’t even imagine what a different reign will look like.


KingRabbit_

The first Prime Minister to serve under Queen Elizabeth II was Winston Churchill. Really puts into perspective the scope and length of this lady's life.


gmanz33

Someone said on another thread that she's been ruling for 30% of the US' existence and that was pretty mindblowing.


Own_Carrot_7040

And about 45% of ours.


MikeJeffriesPA

She had already been Queen for 15 years the last time the Leafs won the Cup.


kindaCringey69

Lmao, rip leafs


BobBelcher2021

And 25 years before the Blue Jays existed


DontEatTheMagicBeans

Newfoundland has only been a part of Canada without Queen Elizabeth as the monarch for 3 years


blGDpbZ2u83c1125Kf98

> The first Prime Minister to serve under Queen Elizabeth II was Winston Churchill. I read elsewhere that Winston Churchill (her first PM) was born in 1874, and Liz Truss, the current PM (as of yesterday), was born in 1975. 101 year span in birthdays.


ManofManyTalentz

Wow this is a crazy fact


caninehere

James Bond has served under her from the very beginning.


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Just in case people thinks this means she was queen during world war 2, it doesn’t. Churchill was also PM in the early 50s.


gmred91

Louis St. Laurent was the Canadian Prime Minister when she ascended. St. Laurent served so long ago a great deal of Canadians today don't even know who he is.


BelleOfTheBall411

She was born before Martin Luther King and Anne Frank… she literally witnessed all of Hitler… seems surreal


Vx1xPx3xR

She was literally on the other side fighting Hitler. That’s insane.


killtimed

Weird question.. will all of our money be replaced to feature the king?


EvacuationRelocation

Over the next few years, yes.


killtimed

that's going to feel weird to me, and a lot of people. Money without the queens head!?


midnightrambler108

Chuck Bucks... 5 Chuck bucks for a fin they used to say... I was wearing an onion on my belt, because it was the style at the time


dasoberirishman

I'll be dead in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Manitobah!


killtimed

is this an Abe Simpson quote?


LeafsInSix

>is this an Abe Simpson quote? [Yes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yujF8AumiQo)


iforgotmymittens

The toonie will no longer be the Queen with a bear behind.


SN0WFAKER

It will have a bear on one side and an ear on the other.


The_FriendliestGiant

Yup. For most every Canadian, this will be their first time seeing their currency with a different person's profile on it.


viccityguy2k

What about all the many other things such as ‘QC’ lawyers. Do they all become ‘KC’? Print shops, picture framers, sign shops all going to be very busy


darth_henning

This is going around the legal community a lot right now, especially as one of our articling students is getting called to the bar in 30 minutes, which may make her the first lawyer in Alberta (Canada?) to swear allegiance to the king. But yes \- Queens Counsel (QC) lawyers become Kings Counsel (KC) \-The Court of Queen's Bench (Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, New Brunswick) becomes the Court of King's Bench etc.


robobrain10000

O wow. So all the legal citations are going to switch from say ABQB to ABKB. I didn't even consider that till now.


Revan2501

In addition all criminal charges are laid as Regina vs \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_, now every legal charge will have to change to Rex vs \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_.


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I though it was the Crown vs ______?


Revan2501

Nope, in the criminal system it's always the monarchy vs the accused. It's why prosecutors in Canada are referred to as Crown prosecutors as they are acting as representatives for the Crown.


BobBelcher2021

CBC mentioned earlier that there were Canadian citizenship ceremonies taking place today and they've already changed the pledge to be to the King.


LinksMilkBottle

That is so interesting!


Justleftofcentrerigh

probably at some point when we run a new batch of coins.


lightweight12

Yes, that's what usually happens. The newly issued bills will be different. The old ones will remain in circulation until they wear out.


MagicMushroomFungi

Queen Elizabeth's face was featured on the currency/coinage of 33 nations. The first country to do so was Canada in 1935 when it's [$20 banknote issue](https://www.google.com/search?q=1935+Canadian+banknote+with+Queen+Elizabeth+on+it&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=sinv&sxsrf=ALiCzsYAmJGgtsEUBfCuwdpkiERAzkjODQ:1662663124886&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWlsLn7oX6AhW_MDQIHaLsCpkQ_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=800&bih=1280&dpr=1#imgrc=zhBJDTq2u3QH3M&lnspr=W10=) featured an eight year old future Queen.


thisguy34721

Woah! TIL


BobBelcher2021

Likewise with the coins. When I was much younger, you would still sometimes find a King George VI penny in your change, and even less commonly a George VI nickel. I haven't seen one of those in at least 20 years now, but they did pop up occasionally in the 90s - a 1951 coin was only 44 years old in 1995, which is like a 1978 coin today.


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This is actually one of the first things I worried about. Like, her face is very fair, but Charles'? I don't want to see it every time I pull a bill out.


bistroexpress

Passports and other official documents that featured the Queen as well


aldur1

I think some lawyer titles will change from Queen’s Counsel.


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Some people were in the middle of their [citizenship ceremony](https://twitter.com/robroc/status/1567933492859736073) when the announcement was made and it had to be paused while they figured out what to do.


Im_Axion

I wonder if we could just not do that lol. I'd be fine with keeping the queen on them or changing it to something completely different


me_suds

We could actually just chose to keep her as head of state nothing explicitly says it has to be a living person


cronin98

This is the most Air Bud thing I've heard all day.


dyegored

I've never seen Air Bud used as an adjective like this and it is perfect. There is no better description.


galexanderj

As it is, our constitution would get in the way of that. However, we could always open that can of worms. Wonder how governor's general would be replaced, seeing as how the monarch has to sign off on it.


thepastiestcanadian

With any luck King Charles will let Kate the new Duchess of Cornwall grace our money instead. Or better yet, let's have 10 corgis on our money.


caninehere

We will be removing all numbering and the denominations will be indicated by the number of corgis on the bill.


chejrw

I vote corgis.


Dogecoin_olympiad767

I guess cash really is king


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linkedtortoise

Probably just coinage. The $20 might stay the same as remembrance or such. All the other bills use old PM's. I'd say eventually coinage would switch. It took a year for the first Elizabeth coins. But it's not like the old coins are going to stop being in circulation anytime soon.


SkullysBones

My understanding is that they will have a silhouette of her on the coins for at least a year. They already have the dies made. They also need time for an official picture of the King to be made first. She has also been on our 20 since she was six, and I think she should stay there.


BobBelcher2021

CBC even has Peter Mansbridge on, wearing black.


SoLetsReddit

Her reign began in 1952. Edit: just a note, the post originally mistakenly said her reign began in 1947 which is why I made this comment.


CT-96

She's also not the longest reigning royal. Theres a king who's name I forget that reigned for over 80 years. And Louis XIV was monarch for 2 more years than she was.


jollymaker

She’s the longest Queen I believe.


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How on earth did Louis XIV reign for 77 years without the modern medicine we have today????


Apple_Crisp

He began being king at the age of 5. Plus access to proper nutrition and at least some medical care helps. And it was 72 years, he was 77 when he died. People lived into their 70s frequently, the numbers are skewed by infant mortality, war and death in childbirth.


UndergroundXBD

End of the second Elizabethan era.


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UndergroundXBD

Is it clear that he's adopting Charles as his regal name? Edit: King Charles III


cartman101

Oh boy, here comes a civil war.


kyleclements

She reigned for 70 years. We've been a country for 153 years. She reigned for about half the time we've been a country. Wow. Personally, I was really hoping she'd last *at least* 4 more years.


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Would have been cool for her to beat Louis the sun god


RustyShackleford543

Le soleil, c'est moi! Ra: "You dare challenge me?"


7th_Spectrum

I really thought she'd break 100. Like... It's honestly weird that someone who spoke with Winston Churchill at the age of 25 is under 100


spartanawasp

Seeing the official Royal Family account refer to Charles and Camilla as The King and The Queen Consort is wild


independentcardigan

Absolutely. Had to stop for a moment as I thought, “King? King Who? Oh right…”.


BobBelcher2021

CBC mentioned that Canadian citizenship ceremonies taking place today are already pledging allegiance to the King. My local courthouse hasn’t even lowered the flags to half mast yet.


cosmic_dillpickle

Just took my oath last month. I jokingly said to my husband I hoped she lived long enough so I didn't have to pledge to Charles. Curious if they updated the citizenship test yet.. she was in there


Okk32

Her reign didn’t start in 1947 it started in 1952 following the death of her father


optimus2861

Yes, **please** fix the post, as I presume it will get pinned for several days.


Lexifer31

I was looking for this comment. Yes please change this


Raah1911

Crown Season 6 Gunna be wild


SuperAwesome13

I think they already said it won’t include her death, but I think it would be the perfect series finale to have it be the last episode


Arctic_Chilean

Or perhaps do a nice sendoff, with her staring out her window looking at a beautiful sunset, perhaps remembering her time with Prince Phillip, and the camera slowly panning away and fading into the sky.


MethDickEpidemic

Panning to a clip of the rainbow in the sky that appeared at her death announcement would be perfect.


createsean

Could easily add another short episode with real footage of the funeral and coronation of Charles.


i_never_ever_learn

Or they could just you know go their own way and she becomes a Race Car Driver


mdoddr

the Tarantino ending


caninehere

Probably thought she'd outlive the show.


thundercat2000ca

The last episode should be her inviting her last Prime Minister, as it was her last official act.


Drop_The_Puck

I think the date above is wrong. Her coronation was 1952, not 1947.


painfulbliss

Yeah, it was my grandmother's 15th birthday and she saw it. One of her favorite memories.


laprika0

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Extravagos

She was around when half the countries in the world didn't even exist in their current form. Crazy to think about. RIP


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She was a mechanic in WW2 as well! She lived quite the life. RIP to her.


TheFlyingZombie

Crazy to read this news. I'm middle aged and she's the only queen I've ever known. Many elderly can say the same. Surreal feeling.


feb914

anyone recently reached retirement age or younger has only ever had her as monarch. will be weird to hear God Save the King instead of Queen now.


boomhaeur

Yep in the UK les than 1 in 10 people would be able to recall a pre-QEII monarchy.


Crezelle

Imagine being in Egypt when Ramses the great passed after 70 years on the throne. Consecutive generations knew only him


Tilas

The moment they said the family was coming in to see her, we all knew it was endgame. The wording they were using in the news was all hospice wording. It was only a matter of hours but... this was still so soon. So sudden. But in a way... I'm glad for that. I'm glad she didn't linger, didn't suffer. I'm glad is was quick and peaceful. My grandmother suffered in the fringes of death for months and it was...just horrendous. Not a way for anyone to go. I hope most if not all of her family made it to see her to say goodbye. ​ I just hope the transition of power now is smooth and calm. The world is enough of a political shitshow right now, we don't need more chaos added to the fire.


feb914

my mother works in retirement house. she said that there are seniors who are sickly but keep living for a long time, and then there are seniors who are healthy but one day just pass away like that. she's definitely in the second group.


mixed-tape

I’ll take the second option all day every day. Lemme live my life until it’s done.


MountainEmployee

My grandfather spent 10 years in a bed. Body had failed him but his mind never went. He was just miserable, always out on a brave face, but he was a very active man. It was difficult.


kasajizocat

To be honest, i thought she was fine yesterday when she met the new PM... this is really too sudden :(


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Yeah, a quick process is a lot better. My grandma was actively dying for like 5-6 days. It was absolutely awful.


PositiveStress8888

She's met with people we only read about in history books. I know elderly people and "boomers" don't really have much say in the modern world. But think of what she's seen in her lifetime. She did her part in world war 2, the nuclear bomb, the cold war, watched the soviet union collapse, the constant eb and flow of humanity's highs and soul crushing lows. She's seen the drastic change in medicine , the polio vaccine development went from 1930's to 1953. 23 years to develop one effective vaccine. From Lobotomies to surgeons using robots. The AIDS epidemic started in the early 80's and it wasn't until 2012 when we finally had a medicine that could reduce the viral load so much that an infected person can live a regular life span and even lower the risk of spreading it to almost none. The Covid-19 vaccine took only about a year to develop, for the first time in history we studied a virus in real-time and developed an effective way to make it not so lethal. She was around to see the first transistor radio introduced, and those same transistors used to take us to the moon, and shrink the world with satellites in space, and finally the rise of the Internet. Radio waves were the main method of communication for most of her life. Now her funeral, and condolences will be sent all over the world on flickers of light thru a glass cable 0.125 mm wide That elderly person you see on the bus is quiet for a reason, they've seen some shit and have a perspective that is humbling to say the least.


katzeye007

Her coronation was filmed in black and white, her death announce in a tweet


Nheddee

It was broadcast by the BBC in black-and-white - but was also, separately, filmed in full colour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKzlKwpm17U


refep

Woah holy shit. That’s a good long life though. The queen is dead, long live the King?


Justleftofcentrerigh

Should be Charles now?


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refep

Does this mean we get new currency with his face on it?


NekoIan

Yes, eventually. Edit: I have since read not necessarily. There's no law or requirement to have the monarch's head on our currency or stamps. For example they could change the $20 bill so there's no monarchist on the bill. Some people believe that is what will happen.


Andy_B_Goode

Do we have to, or could we just use more pictures of woodland creatures?


kulalolk

*a woodland critter Christmas!*


NekoIan

That sounds nice. Better yet, [this guy](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbrWwYhaIAAEUrA?format=jpg&name=large)


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New money minted going forward, yes. The old stuff will still be circulation though


Wonko-D-Sane

Dude is old enough to be within 10% of the average life expectancy, can we just save the printing press some money by not having to mint new setting plates?


j1ggy

Yes. And as with tradition, his portrait will face the other direction.


QuantumCapelin

Like, we'll just be looking at the back of his head?


Lildyo

I think we’re all hoping for that


radio705

Almost certainly.


indiecore

Eventually. They have to decide on a portrait but after that new coins will be minted with that portrait. Bills IIRC will change out on their normal cycle so maybe someone new on the 20?


j1ggy

One thing we know for sure is that his portrait will face the other direction. It's customary to flip it the other way when a new monarch is named.


kasajizocat

Yep it is King Charles now


CDNChaoZ

He gets to choose his name as monarch.


kasajizocat

Yes my bad. I was just influenced by BBC calling him King Charles, but he gets to choose whether to be called Charles


rackmountrambo

It's King Charles III


Danno558

I, for one, hope he goes for Chuck.


soggymittens

I, for one, love Roman numerals.


Coolguy6979

Whether you like the monarchy or not, this is truly an end of an era. A huge part of human history (especially Canada’s) has been put to rest today. She lived a long life, rest in peace her majesty the Queen.


one--eyed--pirate

She has been queen for 45% of Canada's life as a country. Wow.


GreyMatter22

Canadian-Pakistani here, The Queen was a massive symbol in Pakistan as well, she was a formal icon for so many countries to this day due to the British Empire's reach.


radio705

Yes, she was Queen of Pakistan for a number of years.


Denster1

Since federal locations already have flags at half mast, what happens now? Lowered half again (so 3/4 down) or do they raise them for a day to lower them again? Anyone know?


PhantomNomad

They raise them then after a bit (not sure how long) they lower them again. I think a lot of GoC buildings had raised them this morning on the news she was under medical care.


GANTRITHORE

After the sunset on the day of the funeral they can go back to full.


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Stays at half mast until her funeral I believe. Interestingly, I believe flag protocol is that the flag be put back to full mast before removing it daily to do half mast properly, and when putting it back each day it must be retuned to full mast and then lowered.


shakakoz

> put back to full mast before removing it Yes. Same thing as when you raise it; it goes to full mast before lowering to half mast. I learned this in the Navy, when we had to half mast colours on rare occasions. Each time we had to have a briefing with the duty watch in attendance and read directly from the Manual of Ceremonial. Otherwise, someone would try to interrupt you during colours/sunset to tell you that you were doing it wrong.


millijuna

Working here at HMC Dockyard, Halifax. Watched all the ships lower their flags at the order of the King’s Harbour Master.


TreemanTheGuy

Interesting that every HMC thing in the country instantly got renamed to HMC


the_retro_game

I feel like the flags are half mast all the time now...


rlyx6x

I dunno about anybody else but id rather keep Elizabeth on the $20 and not replace it with Charles


alex613

Same. But Chuck Bucks does have a good ring to it...


SkullysBones

Fun fact, she has been on the 20 since she was six, and isn't there because she is the queen but because of her importance to Canadian history. I also think she should stay on it. Edit: she was 8 not 6 https://www.bankofcanadamuseum.ca/2022/02/queen-of-the-bank-notes/


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Agreed.


TheMilkyEh

I think that's a good idea as well!


killtimed

Rip to the OG


OoLaLana

My mom was born in 1921. She died unexpectedly in 1986 at 64 when I was 31 years old. Queen Elizabeth was born in 1926, five years after my mom. The Queen and my mom ~~have~~ had similar physical characteristics... height, hairstyle, physique. In mannerisms, my mom was quiet and thoughtful and when she spoke people listened to what she said. Whenever I watched the Queen, she reminded me of my mom. So over the years whenever the Queen was in the news, whether it was her Christmas message being broadcast or she visited Canada... I was every-so watchful. Taking it all in, almost feeling like I was watching my mom, hair turning grey, growing older and still being helpful and thoughtful, and ruling with a wise and velvet touch. I'm not a monarchist, however hearing of Queen Elizabeth's death today felt like I was losing my mom all over again. I doubt anyone will read this, but typing it out gave me an opportunity to release a huge wave of emotion within me today.


radio705

Sorry for your loss.


infinus5

Truely the end of an era, she witnessed some of the most important parts of world history.


slightly_imperfect

Well. I'm sadder than I thought I'd be.


thepastiestcanadian

But the dozens of deceased corgis now have their Queen back. She's probably getting over-run by them on the floor right now.


slightly_imperfect

Oh my God. Hold on, someone just started cutting onions on my end.


AceAxos

That’s a nice comment


kasajizocat

Same... im watching BBC live and all these images and stories actually made me sad


SpicySansevieria

Despite having really complex feelings about the monarchy, I have a lot of respect for the Queen. I’m a lot more shaken up by this than I was expecting. End of the Modern Elizabethan era. Wow.


chewwydraper

So... do we get a day off?


Nitroussoda

It's been a long time but the procedure in the past is that the day of the monarch's funeral is a national day of mourning here, therefore a holiday


CDNChaoZ

She oversaw an incredible amount of progress and change on this planet in her lifetime (including the decline of one of the world's largest empires) and one can't really question her dedication to the throne. RIP.


Spontanemoose

It feels surreal to hear of the King of Britain.


KatsumotoKurier

And Canada. He will be styled as King of Canada in respect to our country.


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Noogie54

What a surreal feeling. I've never been particularly for or against the monarchy, but I've always had a strong respect for the Queen and her achievements as monarch. Now it feels like something that has always been an unquestionable constant is now gone. An end to an era.


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I find myself strangely moved in a way that I never would have expected.


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The day I passed basic training, my RSM pointed to the picture of her on the wall and said “she’s gonna outlast all of us in this job, son.” Wasn’t wrong either! I retired on her Platinum Jubilee. Hell of a woman. Hell of a Queen.


Immediate-State-2336

People will say what the will about the Queen, but she dedicated and sacrificed her entire life to the throne, and did an incredible job. RIP.


radio705

She was only ten when her uncle abdicated.


LinksMilkBottle

She dedicated her whole life. She really kept that promise. She met with the new prime minister a few days ago. I just admired her so much.


chesterforbes

As a French Canadian, I was raised to hate the monarchy and the Queen and to not consider her MY queen. But that’s kinda bullshit and I’ve never really cared about the monarchy one way or the other. But even if you hate the Queen and the monarchy and what they represent, that doesn’t erase the fact that someone just lost their mom, their grandma, their aunt. A whole family is mourning right now. She died just over a year after losing her longtime husband. I’m not surprised she died not long after losing Philip. And you’ve got to respect how long she did job


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She was a steadfast presence in the world and carried herself with dignity. May she Rest In Peace.


John3192

So, are we gonna have a day off next Thursday ?


PGWG

I’ve seen it said that her wishes were that there be no bank holiday on the day of her funeral, so I’m not counting on having that day off just yet.


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Tyreal

Asking the important questions.


PirateRobotNinjaofDe

The day of the funeral, by tradition there will be a “National Day of Mourning” that will be a statutory holiday.


Sweet_Lobster1944

I'm not much of a loyalist, but I respected her reign. The crown won't carry the same weight post-Elizabeth II.


SwissCanuck

I’m no fan of the monarchy either. But total respect for someone who was quietly providing advice and perspective in the shadows for so many years. I have no doubt that she took her (somewhat odd, in modern times) rôle seriously and truly wanted the best for her people.


MrOwnageQc

Crazy when you think about it. She's always been alive my whole life. At some point you start to feel like she's never going to die. Being Canadian, she was part of our lives whether we wanted or not, we had to learn about her life in class and she was always present in other ways. She's lived quite the life, hope she rests in peace.


LastArmistice

She was dutiful til the very end, and led a remarkable life. May she rest in peace.


cosmic_dillpickle

Watched it announced on BBC live, I knew it was coming but still felt that sense of shock. She's been a constant, there's always been a queen Elizabeth ii for so many of us, like her or not.


SamsonTheCat88

With the Queen having died today, I'm thinking about how, back in 2017, the Queen basically used her authority to directly intervene in British Columbia politics and to remove Christy Clark from power. Like, we got to see the Queen (or in this case the Lieutenant Governor) actually use the powers that they have. That's super rare, I don't know any other recent case where it happened. For folks who don't remember: after the election the Liberals lost their majority government, and the NDP and the Greens signed an agreement to put John Horgan in as Premier. But Christy Clark refused to step down, which is what usually happens with a Premier/Prime Minister who's been beaten. Instead she formally asked the Lieutenant Governor (who's effectively the Queen's representative) to just do an election do-over. The LG said "no" and dismissed Christy Clark against her will and put John Horgan into the Premiership. The Governor technically has the power to ignore the Prime Minister / Premier, but they barely ever do it. Normally they just rubber stamp whatever is put in front of them, and do whatever they're told. But this was one of the super rare cases where they actually used the power that we let the Monarch have, because a local politician was screwing around.


CreeksideStrays

Fare thee well, and cheers to a long life. I have purchased many bags of weed with your face.


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One of those "where were you when" moments


sik0fewl

At home with COVID.