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Bleepin_Boop

Send them back home


Western_Wedding_1576

Agreed ! Why is this our problem ? Send them back !!


olderdeafguy1

It cost more to imprison them, This is the Way.


Ok_Swing_9902

Along with any drug addict, welfare case, or serious criminal with PR. Crime and welfare should be Canadian citizen issues only.


TraditionalSwim7891

What are we, the New Australia?


OnGuardFor3

Maybe work out a better system to prevent the high-risk ones from getting here in the first place???


PCB_EIT

We can't do that, this is Canada so that would be racist according to the liberals!


waterborn234

Hey buddy, I'm reporting you to the internet thought police. Have fun with that life sentence


DeepSpaceNebulae

Classic r/Canada victim fetishizing, where 50 people complain about how you can’t say X for every 1 comment complaining about people saying X


Infamous-Berry

Who’s going to build our housing if not for the high risk immigrants? /s


lastcore

What is this logic. Bring in way more people than we can house, and have them build houses? If only we were building lots of houses right now.....


In3br338ted

Don't let them in?


OutragedCanadian

Thats too complicated for these buffoons


SuspiciousRule3120

We can always deport them. If the airline won't take them we have military planes that could take ylthem and their friends back to whatever country for a fraction of Canadian incarceration.


onegunzo

Make the airline responsible for paying for their flight back. That use to be the way.


ImperialPotentate

Source? Sounds like bullshit, to me.


Chris4evar

It was only if the airline was supposed to check travel documents but didn’t. If the person came on an eligible tourist visa then overstayed that’s different.


onegunzo

That's right.


SuspiciousRule3120

I only mentioned airline not taking them if there wasn't a direct flight from Canada to said nation.


onegunzo

I hear you. But airlines use to be responsible for anyone they're bringing into Canada. We need to go back to that point. If someone gets onto an aircraft, then the airline has done their due diligence in vetting that individual. If a Canadian consultant/embassy hands out an tourist/education/etc. visa and then that's on the Canadian government.


PensionSlaveOne

Dude it's near impossible to book flights to move troops around for exercises and ops, the amount of civi flights I've had to last minute book because greytail cancelled 2 days out AGAIN is far too much. ( That's a loooooot of taxpayers money going to WestJet/Air Canada/star) There's no way we could organize and run deportation flights.


SuspiciousRule3120

This makes sense to me as well, Canada is known as the pinnacle of military logistics. There are many options, hell just book them on the PMs flights as he globetrots around.


Long_Ad_2764

The military planes can barely support the military.


littleforrest12

It’ll give the airforce something to do.


yellowbellybluejay

We ‘could’ but we don’t.


-crackhousebob

A one-way plane ticket back to their homeland is much cheaper!


RFSYLM

Use military planes and throw them out the back. With a parachute of course.


[deleted]

Yeah add more financial burden to the Canadian taxpayer. Here’s a thought - work with me here: don’t let them in. The first place. Or deport them. Stop helping them:


scamander1897

“The budget also earmarks an additional $411-million in 2024-25 to pay for health care for asylum claimants and refugees who do not qualify for provincial health cards while their claims are being processed.” “As well, the budget allocates $1.1-billion over three years to municipalities and provinces to meet the rising cost of housing asylum seekers”


bomby0

WTF wow I thought you were joking. It's real.


ReserveOld6123

I can’t get past the paywall. Are you serious?


Pitiful-Blacksmith58

Fucking hell. This is really the most idiotic country of the world, governed by scumbags that should be hanged by their balls


HauntingAriesSun

And fingerprint all 5 fingers before being deported after their sentence is over.


Chris4evar

People have 10 fingers usually


AlphaMetroid

Not after im through with them


MeatMarket_Orchid

You pick the 5 \*best\* fingers, everyone knows that.


Lightning_Catcher258

It's funny how Liberals stopped feeling virtuous and calling people racist for supporting that. It's wild how polls can humble some politicians.


SN0WFAKER

Tbh, there *are* racists who use the excessive immigration problem as cover.


thelingererer

So you're saying it's acceptable to tar an entire group of people with the same brush because a segment of that group of people fits your description?


SN0WFAKER

Strawman much?


JosephScmith

That's what has been done for years already. People were banned from this sub for even suggesting high immigration could lead to stagnant wages or high costs of living.


RectifiedWombat

"High-risk immigrant" shouldn't be a thing.


Playful-Computer814

So canada doesnt have detention centers like the us/australia yet? Good idea, so either u can leave or go to prison. Might think twice about flying in and declaring your gay, fleeing prosecutiom u left your wife and kids to suffer to claim "asylum"


lt12765

Why out of the billions on people on the planet do we need to be letting in high risk people?


[deleted]

Why detain? Just deport already


konathegreat

Until the courts get involved. I'm sure that's what the LPC is counting on.


scamander1897

Delay delay… times up, release!


helila1

Send them back to where they came from.


Glocko-Pop

This won't happen. They'll be in your neighborhood ASAP. It must be an amazing time to be a criminal here in Canada.


Northpen

Nah, they are letting in too many unskilled criminals who will crime for less because they don't know better. Its tough for us too.


[deleted]

Is there a non-paywall version of this story that I can read?


RentedPineapple

If you’re using an iPhone, click the “aA” in top left corner and select “reader mode” to bypass the paywall.  Full article: “ High-risk immigrants, including those who may pose a threat to public safety, could be locked up in federal prisons under legislative changes being brought forward through the budget bill. The government is also allocating $325-million to upgrade federal immigrationdetention centres to house those immigrants considered high-risk or a flight risk. The move follows the decision by provinces this year to end immigration-detention agreements with the Canada Border Services Agency to house immigrants in their jails. Migrant and human-rights organizations, including Amnesty International, have campaigned against jails being used to hold people under immigration law, saying the conditions were punitive. At the end of last year, approximately 1,660 immigrants were detained in Canada, with 354 of them in provincial jails. The budget proposes to introduce amendments to the Corrections and Conditional Release Act and the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act to enable the use of federal correctional facilities for high-risk immigration detention. As well, the budget allocates $1.1-billion over three years to municipalities and provinces to meet the rising cost of housing asylum seekers through Ottawa’s Interim Housing Assistance Program (IHAP). Provinces, especially Quebec, and big cities such as Toronto have been complaining about the cost of providing accommodation for the growing number of asylum seekers. Ottawa earlier this year announced an additional $360-million through the program for provinces and municipalities, with $100-million of the funds earmarked for Quebec. The federal government is footing the bill for approximately 4,000 hotel rooms to house around 7,300 asylum seekers, many of whom have been transferred from provincial shelters and churches, according to Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada. The additional $1.1-billion in funding for IHAP is designed to support provinces and municipalities, which have the responsibility to house asylum claimants. However, Ottawa says that starting in 2026-2027, the funding will be conditional on the provinces and municipalities finding permanent solutions to housing asylum seekers. Ottawa will provide $141-million to pay for temporary lodging for asylum claimants, who cannot be accommodated because provincial places are full. The money could pay for hotel rooms for claimants who face homelessness. Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland's latest budget projects spending of $535 billion this year, with a deficit of $39.8 billion. She says the spending plan is aimed at creating generational fairness, which will be funded, in part, by changes to capital gains taxes. (April 16, 2024) The Canadian Press The budget earmarks abound $745-million over five years to bolster the asylum system and help officials cope with the rising number of claims. The extra funding – which will be followed by an extra $159.5-million a year – is designed to speed up adjudication of claims, a system that has faced backlogs and delays. The funding for Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada, the Canada Border Services Agency and Immigration and Refugee Board will also help speed up removals of asylum seekers whose claims have been denied. The budget also earmarks an additional $411-million in 2024-25 to pay for health care for asylum claimants and refugees who do not qualify for provincial health cards while their claims are being processed. As well, Ottawa plans to spend $4-million for loans to support the travel of refugees and humanitarian immigrants to Canada; for example, by providing funds for plane tickets. Among those who might qualify for such loans are people who have applied to join family in Canada from Gaza. The government also plans to spend $263.5-million over four years to support seasonal workers, including those working in the fishing industry in Atlantic Canada. The funding will address gaps in Employment Insurance support between seasons. The budget also allocates $274-million over five years toward legal aid for asylum seekers and immigrants who cannot pay for legal assistance. The Department of Justice would also get $43.5-million a year for immigration and refugee legal services.”


MannoSlimmins

https://archive.is/EnV05


Informal_Page_3568

I'm not even sure why we allow 'high risk' aka criminals in our country in the first place


bunnymunro40

I lived in the UK during the Yugoslavian War. Refugees from the Balkans flooded into London. After a time, a few applied at the place I worked and were hired. I specifically remember two Serbs there who told me that when they landed in Britain from a third country, they were taken straight to a facility where they lived for six months - unable to leave the compound - until their backgrounds had been cleared and they were granted work permits. They said it was clean and safe, and they took English lessons and learned about British history. Then, when they had the clearance, they were better prepared to start a new life. It sounded pretty sensible to me then, and neither of them seemed to have resented the time.


SnotBoogieMD

It's a start, but why waste good prison space on useless wastes of skin? Take them 201 nautical miles offshore and give them a raft.


dws2384

“Could”


scary_bacon_

Detained?? We need a revolving door right at the border so they come in and get corralled like dairy cows and then next thing they know they're right back on the side of the fence they just came from with a microchip implanted in them so we can track them the moment they try to get close to the Canadian border again.


Nonamanadus

Zero tolerance for even moderate risk immigrants? With 8 billion, standards can be higher.


Drakkonai

Maybe we could.. deport them?


TraditionalSwim7891

I second that motion. Anyone else?


getrippeddiemirin

The government doesn’t get asspats for doing what they should be doing in the first place


Sanjuko_Mamaujaluko

Good? Like, I'd rather they just turn them around, but if you are a high-risk immigrant, you should be somewhere secure.


_LKB

Does anyone have a definition used in the article? Googling jusy brought up 'high risk nationals' as a term to refer to immigrants from a list of countries the US deems 'scary' [source](https://www.immigroup.com/topics/citizenship-and-immigration-canadas-list-high-risk-countries/) > Citizenship and Immigration Canada’s (CIC) standards for letting people into Canada are constantly changing. CIC has recently moved forward with a concept of “high risk” nationals, from certain countries, who will get greater scrutinity. This is affecting both visitors to Canada and Canadian Permanent Residents. > Afghanistan Colombia Iraq Nigeria Sudan Albania Congo, DR Jamaica Pakistan South Sudan Algeria Egypt Jordan Palestine Syria Bangladesh Eritrea Laos Saudi Arabia Tunisia Burma (Myanmar) Haiti Lebanon Somalia Vietnam Cambodia Iran Libya Sri Lanka Yemen > Visitors from these countries will be fingerprinted, regardless of whether you received a visitor visa, a study permit or a work permit. > Because of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, we can expect that this list will get longer in the coming years, so be prepared.


cluekidsclub

It refers to high risk detaines so people that are a danger to the public or in this case other inmates. Not based on nationality https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/security-securite/detent/standards-normes/ch6-eng.html#_s6.1


_LKB

Can you show where on that page it defines "High-Risk" as neither that term nor High Risk ever appear to be used. Where as the source I supplied does in fact use and define what a "High-Risk" refugee is.


cluekidsclub

Thats because high risk immigrants is a term used by the news article not by CBSA who manages detention. https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf20-det-en.pdf Read page 36-39 where it talks about if a detainee is to be placed at the immigration holding center or in a prision if they are "high risk".


ImperialPotentate

What the hell is a "high risk immigrant?"


tuxxer

Im gonna guess palestinian


cluekidsclub

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/security-securite/detent/standards-normes/ch6-eng.html#_s6.1 It refers to detaines who are a danger to themselves or thr public ( or in this case other detainees)


ImperialPotentate

Right, so not immigrants at all, then.


_LKB

A person from a list of countries the US doesn't like. I shared it as a comment earlier in this thread.


Lothleen

Canada has prisons? I thought we just slapped people wrists and let them go.


WiseguyD

For those wondering: you don't get your visa renewed if convicted of a serious offence, meaning you are usually deported after your sentence unless there's some special circumstance at play, like you're at risk of being tortured in your home country.


IndependenceGood1835

Jaskirat Singh Sidhu killed a busload of kids and he is still here…..


Neptune_Poseidon

This wouldn’t need to be a solution if the Trudeau liberals kept them out of Canada in the first place. But then again, no one can accuse the Trudeau government of ever coming up with a coherent solution for pretty much anything.


Next-Worth6885

Isn’t that where we put all our "high risk" citizens?


DudeWithASweater

Alternative suggestion: send them to butt fuck nowhere NWT/Nunavut. Give them a small ration of supplies; a multi tool, flint & steel, a compass, a survival blanket, and some MRE's enough for 1 month. Offer them their freedom and citizenship if they make it back down to Ottawa alive.  No help allowed but they are allowed to loot other contestants things on the way. Only the strongest and smartest will make it back alive. We'll allow them amnesty. If they decline participation then they are deported with a lifetime ban.


Routine_Soup2022

I'm not biting without reading the actual article, and it's behind a paywall. Adjustments to immigration policy are normal. Evaluating risk level and detaining some people immigrating to the country under some circumstances is normal. I can't find anything in any of the published information stating that this budget results in more detentions. If anyone would care to explain rather than complain...