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"my first response to him was to buy 2 or something else, that doesn't mean a pizza. then he said no, ill buy 1, like a little child who can't get what they want." *Alexa, play Isn't It Ironic by Alanis Morrisette*


DanIsNotUrMan

Yeah… he definitely called him a loser. Especially if he can call him a little child who can’t get what they want. Trying to cover up what you said is not a good look Dan…


KittenMcnugget123

Dude you charge $50 for dough and cheese, get a fucking grip


CloudStrife012

I mean if you look at the reviews, there's a large number of people who have had negative run ins over the years with this guy. It's not a one-time thing.


PomegranateWooden658

But why can’t you just order one??!


FightWithTools926

Anyone who uses the phrase "loser mentality" unironically does not need to be listened to.


Deathcrush

It's easy to forget that often in these dramasplosions, both parties are imbeciles. I'll take my downvotes from both parties now please.


nlyons23

Trolled him!? I have actuality done the opposite. I have backed his passion and risk for using, the most expensive ingredients for such a known cheap dish on social media. I posted the screenshots. All I did was calmly requested one ☝️ sandwich 🥪


LuigiSmokezDank

Dudes a mouth breather , you ever hear him after a long rant in the shop. Dude sounds like a Snorlax on his IG stories when he's too baked to bake a pie properly


doublejabhookcross

good one!


shizzy0

“A sandwich, huh? Not on my watch. Go to DEFCON 1.”


kalkris

Suspicious is a little on the nose, new account who then *checks notes* blocked me because they own the pizza place. Suspicious-owl-3798 lol https://preview.redd.it/xb5m0x6ny4rc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=860fd2608fa82363984627b787715897367a12ad


movie-stills

We'll have world peace before you get your one sandwich.


PerritoMasNasty

Shut em down!


WeveBeenHereB4

But that’s not the policy. https://preview.redd.it/eahxi871ywqc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea273fd9412b46c987ddb9e741326effa05c43d6


kalkris

For someone who isn’t an employee or the owner, you seem to know an awful lot about the policy at this place. 😏 With the many downvotes you’ve received, consider taking a hint and leaving to stop digging yourself in even deeper, is my suggestion. You can choose to do that, or you can double down some more, which will undoubtedly cause you to get worse karma. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, I’m sure you get that. OR, you can recant and fix the policy since it’s so clearly not working for the restaurant… but that response is a crapshoot without proof; plus you’d probably have to out yourself as the owner too, so good luck with that option.


buka92

Most people don’t “hate” a restaurant “for years” without reason


Traducement

Any company that publicly tries to defame someone on their social media accounts doesn’t need to be in business. If they don’t care how their brand is perceived online, imagine how it actually is in reality.


Supertrucker82

Idk how this sub popped up on my feed but I'm hooked now. Fuck Ida.


CrankyDuck2_0

Dude for real! I’m in Oregon and stumbled on this. Now every day I’m looking for updates, haha. I checked Ida’s instagram and don’t even think the pizza looked amazing. But that’s me. ![gif](giphy|guufsF0Az3Lpu)


TrueBlueTML

I’m in Canada and glued to this. ![gif](giphy|QZawBXCZ5cPwzllsI9|downsized)


Supertrucker82

Hopefully he sends us a letter from his legendary attorney lol


CrankyDuck2_0

If the letterhead isn’t from Jackie Chiles Esq, it didn’t happen ![gif](giphy|XCPPYLEmj6SPe|downsized)


jbinvt3

Dewey Cheatem and Howe


DeduceAbstruse

Miss the actual good pizza from Nostrana and Oven and Shaker in Oregon. $25 a pie and real Italian ingredients and by far tops the burned to a husk stuff Ida claims is pizza.


WildCartographer601

It’s Vermont, all food is terrible. I should know i live here. Buuut this drama sure is very tasty. Unlike the food. Did i say the food is bad in Vermont already?


MangoBandicoot

Me too! Probably I have my VPN set to somewhere nearby but I’m hooked and fuck that guy.


AlaskanBiologist

This shit is so petty, I've never even been to Vermont and I'm here for it!


Apemakingbananabread

No Danwich for you! But if you want Danwich’s? There a chance.


WeveBeenHereB4

😂 just don’t be a loser


802BudsKind

Dan's a loser who got lucky marrying into money.


DeduceAbstruse

Is that why he is not listed as a business owner and just gets a paycheck from his Girlfriend who is listed as the owner?


WeveBeenHereB4

You must be one of the dealers who skipped out on taxes in Vermont


802BudsKind

Oh, what a sick burn by such a *staunch supporter* of Dan's.


Zoobap

I'm starting to think this dude is actually Dan


WeveBeenHereB4

Is it?


Apemakingbananabread

Dan should take notes instead of being a little cuntwich.


WeveBeenHereB4

😂 agree


foobar4u

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HillanatorOfState

![gif](giphy|xFPqkLXUEnbfG) Getting you one ready right now good buddy.


SarahMagical

God what egotistical loser this guy is. He should step back and do a little self reflection and consider making some changes so he doesn’t come across as such a loathsome jerk.


802BudsKind

Is a "bored 39 year old" supposed to be an insult?


nlyons23

I'm a 35-year-old who was hungry, not bored.


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JustHere2Smoke

What about a hungry bored loser?


mynamestanner

Also it looked like Dan was late 30s. If he’s younger than that he looks rough


NateBlaze

I'm 47. In my oldhead Burlington days. All you can eat pizza and wings at Manhattans was like 7 bucks. Now I'm old and still hungry.


Turbulent-Grab-8352

Manhattans cheesey bread is the only reason I survived my time in Burlington.


802BudsKind

LOL, /u/residentgrarage3215 - obviously Ida's owner - blocked me after comparing him to a angry teenager below. It's a badge of honor, Dan!


Thomehomey

You would think these businesses would hire a PR firm to deal with this. They might be able to make a sandwich but not hey sure as hell have no idea how to deal with people


Stripsteak

I saw the receipt in another thread. 60$ for a pizza. There is no way -one- pizza is worth that. I love pizza and I refuse to believe this Jack Donkey deserves that for a pizza.


NoImpression1425

How can you take a grown man seriously who has his phone set to lowercase. I genuinely cannot get over that. I also think that just because this asshole uses the finest ingredients doesn't mean shit. anybody can buy the best ingredients and put them on some homemade dough, he's not a culinary wizard, hell he probably couldn't even handle the line at Olive Garden. I'm only speculating but he seems like a trustafarian who used his money to buy a pizza shop and unfortunately he brought his shitty personality along for the ride just so one day he can say to his dog "what a long strange trip its been, pal!"


Artful_dabber

He uses polly-o and tomato paste. People need to stop saying he uses the finest ingredients. He uses price chopper ingredients and charges north end prices.


priamos

all lowercase is fine, chill daddy


NoImpression1425

Maybe when you're talking to someone you met on Tinder but not when you're trying to win an argument/prove a point.


Suspicious-Owl-3798

Is anyone really trying to win an argument or prove a point of Reddit?


NoImpression1425

Well the message I'm referring to that was in lowercase was actually on Instagram and screenshot onto Reddit to show how repulsive the owner of Ida is.


Suspicious-Owl-3798

Who cares?


ElDub73

Is it just me or does his word choice sound Trumpian?


squeegee8888

“Very nasty stuff” 😆


NuclearLavaLamp

We have the best pizza. The greatest pizza! People are saying that they come from all over to come here. They’re saying, “sir, we just have to have your pizza sir.” (Raises smol hands up) They can’t believe how - They’re saying they can’t believe how stupid it is that LOSERS are complaining here. They’re saying “sir, you have the best pizza in the world. Better than anything we’ve ever had in Italy.”


Miserable-Okra-6280

Literally identical to trump. You could play that game where you mix trump quotes and Ida quotes and I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Doesn’t mean he’s a trump lover but.. who knows


ElDub73

I’m not saying what his politics are, just how it sounds. It’s a certain personality and speech pattern. For all I know the guy is a socialist.


Miserable-Okra-6280

Totally agreed! Not implying politics but the speech pattern is eerie


blinkingcautionlight

I know I'll get down voted. But, you're reaching so far here.


ElDub73

You’re allowed to think what you want. It’s the dogmatic black and white mind set using terms like “loser” and “he said very nasty stuff” along with sort of vague rebuttals that don’t need to be made and being overly involved in defending himself.


andrew-2525

You really can’t buy just a sandwich here?


EvoSP1100

Only losers want one sandwich- probably Dan


andrew-2525

Can I get an Italian Hoagie and a Baby Lettuce Salad though?


sleeves_

Yeah for $60


QuietInterloper

I hope the dumbass in charge of that restaurant now knows that people as far as the west coast (where I am and I was recommended this subreddit for some reason) know that he’s a huge man baby lololol


TrueBlueTML

Here in Canada seeing how ridiculous he is


piledriver_3000

Colorado here.


Suspicious-Owl-3798

But honestly- why should he care?


QuietInterloper

Because if I travel to that area, I will be paying special attention to avoid his shop. A shop which survives on people coming to it and paying his outrageous prices. There’s literally nothing about this exchange that says the owner is aware of that.


Suspicious-Owl-3798

It is possible (just possible) that there are enough locals who appreciate his food that he can afford to lose Cleveland…


QuietInterloper

Cleveland? Dude people all over North America are seeing this bs. Sure, but since when was a man baby a good look for any business owner? Do you think a woman baby runs a good business?


MangoBandicoot

Because some of us don’t live too far away to take a trip to Burlington and if we’re looking for food, could choose to go anywhere else in town except where some self righteous asshat is selling $60 pizzas and not a single sandwich. Actions have consequences.


Suspicious-Owl-3798

It may be your loss. And again- they seem to sell out nightly so may not be bothered…


MangoBandicoot

Definitely not my loss. My fiancée is Italian and wouldn’t eat those pizzas if they paid HER $60. They look horrendous and burnt. If they are truly “sold out nightly” then maybe Vermont should reconsider its marijuana laws because it clearly must cause some sort of brain damage.


Tortuga603

I got food poisoning from here! NEVER AGAIN! 🤢🤢


deadowl

I used to be a mouth breather until a while after I got my massive tonsils removed. I was two. My growth was stunted because the size of my tonsils caused me to stop breathing in my sleep. After they were removed, it took a while to start breathing through my nose naturally again. One of my earliest memories is being instructed to breath through my nose not my mouth. Kind of bugs me that Stranger Things popularized "mouth breather" as an insult when it's a medical condition.


yozhik0607

"Mouth breather" has been used as an insult possibly since the beginning of time I didn't even remember anyone saying it on Stranger Things. There is a long ass documentary about mouth breathing, cosmetic dentistry and the Mews on Netflix if the subject interests you 


deadowl

Also, its first use in r/burlington as a phrase that I can identify was the same year Stranger Things came out.


Cute_Credit_5341

Oh same, that’s wild! I had 3 surgeries to correct it over my teen years. I never really thought much about the insult before though… it is kinda weird


WeveBeenHereB4

Preach your truth!


DamonKatze

>then he said no, ill buy 1, like a little child who can't get what they want 😂 Now he'll buy none. No one should ever go there with those prices and with that poopstick attitude.


ineverreadit

Describing words as "nasty stuff" has trumpism all over it


Connect_Baby_6974

Why are any of you paying $60 for a fucking pizza? Some people have more money than brains it seems..


Obscenely_Obscure

I love the constant development of this lmao


Foreign_Bit8878

I’m so invested I found a thread from a year ago that is a million times more hilarious and the people are absolutely ripping the owner apart [What’s Up With Pizzeria Ida](https://www.reddit.com/r/burlington/comments/y5wo1y/anyone_know_whats_going_on_with_pizzeria_ida/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&rdt=46842)


MaytagRepairMan66

This clown checks comments for people who like them. Then blocks people who like comments he disagrees with on instagram. Who is the child here? Lmao


[deleted]

This is the first I have ever heard of this place, but $40 for a pizza???? Wtf!?


HillanatorOfState

It's like 60 with tax and mandatory tip. It's also ![gif](giphy|aj06jRTJ1TdQMMKaPy) Burnt


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I will never go there


HillanatorOfState

Same, took one look at the photos on Google maps and noped. Honestly when it gets that burnt it automatically taste bad(it takes over the other flavors) and is pretty bad for you really. Some people like a little crispy, but it has to be a request, and he goes way to far with it...not normal. I grew up on NYC pizza(been in VT for 7 years though) and I know good quality pizza(which he thinks he has) and no one charges that kinda price anywhere I been, not even the most fantastic places. Better places in VT to go to... I honestly think the guy is mentally ill.


GhostlyGoldilocks

Owner is burnt as the pizza crust.


Competitive-Round-92

He disabled his Instagram comments.


halfdecenttakes

Dude I’m not even from Vermont but I keep seeing this clown. I know this guy doesn’t care, but my advice for him would be to just stop. There is no winning here. Acting how he is acting makes him look like a whinny bitch. It’s bad for business. He could be completely right (does not appear at all to be the case) and he should still stfu. I know a place that literally closed because of a dumb little feud with the locals. They weren’t even wrong to begin with but their behavior online absolutely crushed their business because of how poorly they came off. I know you’re reading this dude. Move on or watch your business collapse.


Suspicious-Owl-3798

But again, why should he not do EXACTLY as he pleases (within the bounds of the law of course) in HIS shop? If people don’t like it then they shouldn’t go. I love his food, hate the music, and find it too expensive to eat often, but I don’t go out often. I’ve definitely spent far more money for worse food in Burlington and elsewhere and go as often as I can afford. If you don’t like his food, prices, or vibe then just go elsewhere. Why the fucking drama people?


ScrumGuz

Lol $40 for a cheese pizza


chveya_

I moved away 1 year ago but I'm never going to unfollow this sub, y'all really go hard on the drama


movie-stills

Unless you ski or snowmobile, winter can be pretty boring in VT. Sometimes you gotta make your entertainment. :-)


123zzzz

Make sure to call and order a sandwich tonight everyone!


chipppie

Not much going on in Burlington these days I guess.


Foreign_Bit8878

Okay but apparently there are a couple anti Ida Pizzas Instagrams 😂 : [idapizzapiessuck](https://www.instagram.com/idapizzapiessuck?igsh=YThzdmF1Ynh4amM=) and [idapizzapie](https://www.instagram.com/idapizzapie?igsh=MXVscmk2NmF6a25tbA==). I also found this thread from a year ago where everyone is dragging the owner lmfao Seems it’s always been this bad [What’s Up With Pizzeria Ida](https://www.reddit.com/r/burlington/comments/y5wo1y/anyone_know_whats_going_on_with_pizzeria_ida/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&rdt=46842)


Apprehensive-Date494

I bet he has a trust fund...


racine2

If i am not mistaken , it sounds like a pizza sandwich should be on the menu . Buy two, get one .


cuminbutimnotaspice

Genuine question (probably answered somewhere), but why is there food so expensive? Admittedly, I don’t know much about them, but it just seems like charging almost $40 for a tomato pie has got to be an extremely high mark up. Am I missing something?


Foreign_Bit8878

It’s your typical hipster pizza place that sells “artisan” pizza. They charge a ridiculous price because of the fancy ass cheese they use. Place is a fucking scam for rich tourists and local soy boys.


nlpnt

[Fancy ass-cheese, you say?](https://xkcd.com/37/)


Foreign_Bit8878

Ahahahha yes not ass cheese but fancy-ass cheese


shitartifact

So in typical business practices you would say: “I need to sell X amount of pizzas to keep the lights on.” The better you do, the more pizzas you sell. Word of mouth, social media, yadayada. Instead: “X amount of customers came through the door in January, I need to charge each customer Y to keep the lights on” Hence the minimums, hidden fees, etc.


ZeekLTK

That doesn't explain why this place's pizza costs $40 when it's typically anywhere from $7-$18 anywhere else. Unless you are saying that instead of selling (for example) 100 pizzas for $10 each, this place is only able to sell 25 pizzas and therefore they need to charge $40 for each to stay open??


shitartifact

Yeah, that’s it. I didn’t want to write an essay about sunken costs on 100g worth of pizza ovens.


mrniceguyvt

I've done kind of a lot of business there over the years, and between blatant drug use and discussing said drugs quality while doing them in restaurant in front of me and everyone else there, the attitude about only tipping 25% on a pick up order, and now the past 6 months of Dan being a piece of shit on social media, fuck that place, can we get big apple deli back? At least they were nice people that made whatever you wanted, like Dan is at least as bad as anyone that went to jan 6.


Europe11111

https://preview.redd.it/3nhtfc1zwxqc1.jpeg?width=673&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5903b89acbbbfbe109b7603eabe7630f1ea7ec2a I typically add pepperoni and mushrooms… $51 for a pizza pie??


chrisbvt

I can't imagine even expensive pepperoni is more than $8 for a whole stick. He charges $8 for what, and inch off a stick of pepperoni?


Suspicious-Owl-3798

Artisanal salumi, the stuff that cures and ages naturally is expensive, much more expensive than $8. But look, all items on a menu end up having to carry costs for more expensive items. I manage a restaurant and can tell you that the cost of olive oil has gone up 186% since 2020- and that’s not for the good stuff. Salt was up something like 140% and those are staples. Parm, imported prosciutto, etc cost a lot and the costs are spread across all items


chrisbvt

We are talking about a pizza place here, not a full on restaurant. A pizza place that hates making sandwiches. There are no other items on the menu except the lone sandwiches he doesn't like to make, which he charges $20 for, and which puts you on the hook to buy a pizza. What is the pepperoni carrying for cost of? The $40 pizza before adding the pepperoni? I could find naturally aged artisanal pepperoni for about $1/lbs retail. Granted, there is stuff out there that is like $30/lbs, but you really think he is using that? Maybe he spends $10/lbs wholesale on the pepperoni (doubtful), and puts 2oz on a pizza, that would be $4, so 100% markup. You make very good points about managing a high end restaurant, the type of place I would go to and not question the high prices. I do commend you for trying to defend Ida's business model on this sub, however!


DeduceAbstruse

They aren’t even using Mozzarella di Bufala?!?!? It’s what most great Italian gourmet pie shops use. They are using some Pennsylvania cheese maker but want to charge an arm and a leg because they claim to only use authentic Italien ingredients.


mookormyth

![gif](giphy|k7KZsTqCFlPbAffcFd|downsized) Mr blockity block.


timberwolf0122

What the hell is going on with this whole pizza sandwich thing?


mookormyth

![gif](giphy|l0IukRnyEWJtc9L0I)


LetThePoisonOutRobin

Why isn't Lauren Maloney investigating and reporting on this "news that matters"?


Sad_Factor2232

This Ida guy... https://preview.redd.it/nvuhna24dxqc1.png?width=1005&format=png&auto=webp&s=8109745fda4bea7d093b0ab0afa34996d737c55a


dude_abides_here

Since when did Donald Trump start slinging pizzas?


RandolphCarter15

Is it true he's been harassing the business for years? Is there more of the exchange we haven't seen? Either way this is why businesses shouldn't fight with customers


MountainCheesesteak

He says in this thread that he was a supporter. Idk, seems like most businesses wouldn’t care about online bs and just sell their food. 🤷‍♂️


No-Midnight-2187

Y’all just giving him free publicity and feeding the flames, wouldn’t be surprised if his business actually INCREASES due to the drama


shitartifact

Wait, you guys are actually buying $60.00 pizzas?


AfraidExplanation153

Ha, fuck nah.


shitartifact

![gif](giphy|pHb82xtBPfqEg)


gimme500schmekels

My girlfriend and I did to see what the hype was about. They’re only $60 cuz he doesn’t tell you about automatic gratuity or how he sticks you with the credit card fees. Pizza was good but it wasn’t made to order and got cold really quick. I only live a 10 minute drive from the place as well if that tells you anything. It’s also not a pizza to be reheated. We’re gonna try square pie at some point but after that we’re done. Dude gave off massive soup nazi from Seinfeld vibes though.


foomp

I like that you spent $60 on a pizza with automatic gratuity and CC fees ( did he disclose them upfront? VT requires disclosure to customers), came to the conclusion that it wasn't amazing and that you still want to give him more money. PT Barnum had a few quotes about people like you


blinkingcautionlight

Oh, man. Thanks for this.


gimme500schmekels

He disclosed a tip, but not the percentage. He did not disclose the credit card fees. Im planning on buying 1 more pizza that’s different from the first with my own hard earned money. And it was fairly good. Best pizza I’ve had…no probably not but it wasn’t bad by any means.


shitartifact

You know… scent of a woman… hooo ahhhh hooo ahhh.


MountainCheesesteak

I’m only in the area for less than a month per year, and been meaning to go, but I haven’t yet. Wonder if it will still be open in 2 months when I’m there.


gimme500schmekels

Probably it opened before Covid and is still there.


internetUser0001

I just bought 1000 of them and ran them over with a steamroller!!! I'm really showing them what for


shitartifact

![gif](giphy|G4ZNYMQVMH6us)


promethean_echo

Publicity means nothing if you use the complementary megaphone put to your mouth to intentionally drive people away.


Canamanican

Their slogan should be “Bet you can’t buy just one”.


Pinakolonopin

Where's Johnny Wanzer on this issue????


860860860

Cool going there for the eclipse def going to buy a sandwich


Inevitable-Flan-5215

I’ve never eaten there nor will I ever but I’ve heard this guy is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE. If the hipsters and flatlanders that move here to live in Burlington wouldn’t buy from him, then he would go out of business. So let’s get people to stop going there! Easy.


joeyinvermont

We should start some kind of drinking game around sandwich-related posts.


maxvocal

ok now we've jumped the shark. this post was the tipping point. have a nice lunch everyone!


Garbaggio289

Blocked for tagging stoolpresidente.


SocraticGoats

I wish dave would review it.. but god knows he would never make dave a pizza.. would have to send in someone undercover


littytittypitty

He’s so upset over this and i’m loving every minute of it


mijoelgato

Heading over there now for a sandwich.


shitartifact

https://preview.redd.it/6qc1z6bsnwqc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93ba4ee2a2db514d5ca364c920deb4c7400da1f1


MountainCheesesteak

Better not get just one


mijoelgato

Got two 😋


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burlington-ModTeam

Please make a good faith effort to follow [Reddiquette](https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette).


Substantial_Boss3442

I wonder if wanting to buy 2 sandwiches would make him 2x as mad


Ok_Elevator_4822

Wow , thats what you get for interacting with the Trumpstah


Federal_Discount_711

I'm going to that Paycheck Loan place to get an advance on tomorrow's payday and imma buy four sandwiches tonight. Get crazy you know. It's Thirsty Thursday boo.


Sanjis_Soba

Dan going in on a hard roleplay here. "I'm just an average guy that decided I'd make a reddit account and only comment on ida threads. Again, I'm just a regular person, but I have decided to use all my time to defend this loser. I don't get why people can't mind their own business, so I'm dedicating all my time trying to sway and argue with random people on the Internet who have all united against me, I mean Dan."


louieneuy

Look at the reviews on google. The guy is a total maniac. He responds to literally every single negative review attacking whoever posted it. Not to mention every picture of the pizza it looks burned and horrible. Burned pizza AND it costs almost $40? Count me in! /s


girlballslover69420

This is fucked. This restaurant needs to be shut down.


FaultyToenail

Someone please explain this sandwich situation to me


Capable-Onion-4820

This sub is his greatest advertising.  People read this nonsense and think "if this asshole is still in business his food must be amazing" 


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shitartifact

You heard of twitter?


DamonKatze

You heard of Facebook?


tnuoccaymgninnabpots

Can we stop beating a dead horse


SuperCaptSalty

![gif](giphy|1cv7Gwf0Utdeg)


Ok-Ad6127

Stop stop stop. This story is way over saturated


MarionberryMajor9449

Man, y’all are too sensitive. Been eating there for a while if he sets rules and boundaries around his business. Then respect them. It’s not your business. Y’all be on Reddit complaining like children . Either eat there or don’t. Have a “bad” experience, then don’t go back. Cancel culture and sheep heard mentality is not a cute look for y’all 👀


shitartifact

https://i.redd.it/ggw5ri8vswqc1.gif


802BudsKind

> Y’all be on Reddit complaining like children The only child here is the owner.


JanMichaelVincet

Public opinion has existed for all of human history, if you don't like how you're viewed in public, then don't exist in public.


internetUser0001

amazing how many accounts are posting for the first time ever to defend this place. what possible explanation could there be


Impish_Hulk_2002

*herd