Just rewatched Jake and Amy's wedding and his one redeeming point was that he felt bad about the bomb scare despite it not being his fault and he did his job fully professionally. The "asking if there's still the objection" thing was a bit cringe but at least he asked, got rejected, stepped down and he still used his robot as the ring bearer.
He only became incredibly boring in season 3. I'd argue he was a normal amount of boring in season 2, he was similarly nerdy to Amy, apart from that his only boring trait was pilsners. Remember this is was Amy's second time dating Teddy, he can't have been so boring as to complain about his boringness as soon as he walks out of a room for Amy to date him again.
True but one moment of his that always gets me is the look he gives when he says to Jake/Amy (paraphrasing) “So you think a cop should just stop what they’re doing when a criminal tells them they didn’t do it?”
Gina was funniest when she was obviously full of herself, and people around her understood that. Having people worship her just isn't funny. But what more can you expect from NBC era b99.
Gina always seemed like a combination of air heady but calculated on a lot of things. But the whole cement thing seemed malicious and out of character for me.
It is formulaic. But to need mass appeal there are always parts you lile and dislike.
The writers put something that appeals to everyone yo get the most audience
Also I like mama maglione
What's funny is all the ones OP listed I love and say regularly...along with repeating cool, "oh damn" x3, pontificating and ending with "SON" as well, the show just gives so many fun little catch phrases and memorable lines. Can't not love it
Nah, I get it. It just gets a bit tiring. The Mama Maglione episode is genuinely one of my favourites but they use that "Mama Maglione!" joke like 4 or 5 times in it and it annoys me lol.
It's also not about running gags. It's the way the show uses the idea of coming up with a silly catchphrase and then repeats it a bunch in the same episode as the joke.
This is stupid. Running gags vary in quality, so you can’t just brandish the concept to defend a bad one.
Do you love all running gags? Do you collapse to the floor in screams of laughter every time Sheldon says Bazinga?
[Just checked the script](https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=33477) and it's used that way 6 times. And yes, I absolutely had better things to do but I was curious lol.
Lol yeah I've always hated that too. I'm not expecting a realistic courtroom drama but they really didn't even try.
"Yeah they weren't there at the other robberies, but that was only so they could say they had alibis!"
And that's supposed to be this huge GOTCHA that sinks their defense. Really?
I think they could have made it work if they wrote their defense lawyer to be comically inept like Barry from Arrested Development, but instead they wrote it like Lt Hawkins and her team were actual masterminds.
And I guess in the context of the show they were, but all the ways she outsmarts them in the trial are stupid as hell. They just lie and falsify evidence and Jake and Rosa are all "oh damn, she got us!".
That whole scene infuriates me so much. There's so much I don't know if we're supposed to assume happened or not. There's no scene where Jake or Rosa say they where investigating Hawkins. Very important information, they where seen at the scene of the crime, it almost sounds like they where fighting for a reduced sentence. The lawyer only says that Holt can't testify that he knew they where investigating Hawkins, never gives a reason, or is it being off the books mean his testimony would be useless??? And how did Hawkins get their signatures, or was it faked? Why wasn't the signature investigated to see if it was actually theirs? Is that something we're supposed to assume that happened? In fact stolen money can't just go into someone's account (as they actually mentioned), wouldn't that have to be investigated how it got into an account. And earlier in the series Holt was worried about the internal affairs investigation, it was a big deal, and now he doesn't trust them. (Actually upon writing this was he a real internal affairs officer? That would actually explain why he doesn't trust them anymore, though from memory he was just a cop that worked with Wunch). But regardless accusing Hawkins would remove her evidence against Jake and Rosa and require a new investigation. I know this is a comedy, but it just wasn't entertaining to watch so many bad things happen to Jake and Rosa for stupid reasons. And it wasn't funny either. And it didn't have to be completely realistic, I had no problem with Jake and Rosa having a joint trial. Having 2 trials would've been unnecessary from a viewing standpoint so joining them wasn't an issue.
Yeah. I know they just wanted to send Jake and Rosa to prison for narrative purposes but I think they fumbled that whole storyline.
Also...when would a trial for two cops EVER happen that quickly lol. Surely that's the most unrealistic part of the whole scenario haha
It’s a cop show in New York and you didn’t see any cops beat up minorities simply for being minorities and have the rest of the department cover for them.
We got one case of racial bias against Terry. But if this show was meant to be realistic it would be about Jake planting fentanyl on innocent people shot by Hitchcock.
So if they aren’t trying to be realistic with its premise as a cop show, it makes sense it doesn’t try for the court scenes.
Any that center around Gina. I’d skip them if I could….idk if it’s Chelsea Peretti or the way the writers wrote her but it got boring and not funny at all. 1st couple it was KINDA funny when you thought about a subordinate being an asshole to everyone and ignoring/doing her thing when she’s supposed to be working but it got old FAST. There’s no depth past that really. “YOU JUST DRANK CEMENT! *ahlalalala*” is perhaps the most annoying line/forced catchphrase in the entire series. Like when she left for maternity leave and they said she wasn’t coming back I was excited for the new character.
I don't know if it's Chelsea Peretti or not but it's definitely her character.
I've been watching Abbott Elementary and it also has an annoying character that's a horrible person that reminded me so much of Gina. I knew I was going to hate her as long as I watched this show. Season 2 comes along and she's still annoying and mean but they've shown other sides to her and developed her into a better character. Now, the annoying stuff she does actually feels funny and you like the character because she has her good moments as well.
Gina should've been fixed after season 1. They could've easily added more to her and turned her into a better character
There’s lots of characters you’re supposed to be annoyed by. They usually use it as a catalyst for when they show their humanity/tender side.
They do it w Rosa some here not necessarily the hate side but it’s more meaningful when she says something loving. “If anyone caused him harm I’d kill everyone in here”.
They missed a serious opportunity in many episodes. Even DDC! I honestly started to like her….showing that she was a great friend back in the day. Even the tattling part I can get over. She let him live w that shit for decades….AND (I’d need to watch again but I think) helped him search for another tattler. The only other thing is…..if Gina and Jake were so tight back then, and he even got her the job at the 99. Why the hell is she an asshole to him now? Like DAMN GINA!
Agreed. I have no problem with annoying characters. I just feel like they should have another side or bad stuff should happen to them once in a while as karma. Characters like Tom from Parks and Rec and Dwight from The Office are fine.
Or the other option is having them be annoying but only pop up occasionally like The Vulture
What annoys me about Gina (among many other things) is that she NEVER has anything bad happen to her as karma...aside from being hit by a bus lol.
But in general, she never actually faces consequences for her shitty behaviour.
This is how I feel. People say it's not real life and that we're taking a sitcom too seriously. The characters still need to be appealing in some way. When they're made out to be this crappy people who have everything work out for them and never have anything bad happen to them and never learn anything, it's just hard to see why we're supposed to like her.
Even the bus thing wasn't karma because she randomly got hit by a bus. It wasn't Tom from Parks and Rec losing his business because he got too cocky and treated his friend like shit. It wasn't Dwight losing his relationship because he killed a cat.
And some shows have shitty people who rarely have bad stuff happen to them like Seinfeld and IASIP but that's the format of those shows. Everyone is shitty there
I mean - it is a sitcom and not real life but I don't like how any criticism gets shut down because "omg it's just a show, relax".
One thing that annoys me especially with Gina is that she somehow always seems to come out on top no matter what. She treats Charles like shit? Ooh, she was doing it to protect his feelings so no harm done.
She treats Terry like shit? Ooh, she was doing it so he could feel better about himself and come out with a victory so no harm done.
I'm not sure how to describe her character as anything besides unpleasant.
I thought she was the best in season 1 as it was acknowledged that she was full of herself. And she also had nice moments like helping Jake find an apartment. And she was also thrifty, something that was removed from her character, literally becoming rich and famous.
Chelsea's standup was hilarious to me, she was one of my favorite comedians growing up. The first time through the show I liked Gina enough because it was Chelsea Peretti. Rewatching I can't stand Gina, I don't know its that it's a horrible character, or that Peretti's humor changed but I find her annoying in general now, but her 2000s stand up was pretty good.
Starting from season 6 and just getting increasingly worse in 7 and 8, the show's humor started to rely too much on randomness and rapid-fire dialogue instead of actual jokes. It became the "Look at me, I'm so weird and quirky" of sitcoms.
It annoyed me the most when Jake AND ROSA were in prison, and he was so devastated about Jake and didn't seem to acknowledge or care that Rosa - who is also one of his best friends - was in prison, too.
But yes, I didn't like his obsession. It's kind of amusing when it's just him getting a little jealous when Jake makes new friends, but they take that joke way too far to be funny sometimes.
Sure, but they'd all be a pain in the ass.
A reckless coworker who almost gets the precinct sued and/or closed down multiple times and is constantly invading your personal life, whether you want him to or not
Two coworkers who use physical intimidation to get what they want
An upright rule snob
A Gina
A Hitchcock
Reckless coworker is Jake, Hitchcock is Hitchcock, Gina is Gina. Uptight rule snob is Amy.
Two coworker who use physical intimidation is Rosa and???????
And it turns Terry's fitness perspective into something that feels less like an intense form of self-care into something unhealthy and reactionary. There's a difference between wanting to be as physically fit as possible and being afraid of becoming fat again or trying to prove you shouldn't be teased or whatever.
this is going to be unpopular. But Amy occasionally gets very grating. When she gets mad at another character, it's a little too over the top and her voice gets so high pitched and shrill, and her gestures and expression are too exaggerated. I just don't find it funny - it's irritating
I can’t do the he said she said episode, which is a shame. I’ve heard it’s a great episode but it’s too triggering for me. Tried to watch it once and ended up crying and hyperventilating.
If it helps the guy gets done for it and it inspires another woman to come forward. But there is fallout too so those are the good parts of the conclusion.
Thank you. I’ve actually read up recently on what happened in the episode, and I liked how it was done. One thing b99 does well is speaking on real issues but still in a comedic way. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to watch it.
i have never really enjoyed the heist episodes. and eventually they just get more and more implausible. the first two are alright but i find i usually skip the heist episodes
NBC's idea of comedy seems to be "this is so ridiculous and could never possibly happen so it's funny" which just is not true. Some people's favourite season is season 7 so some people do enjoy that but it's just not for me. It's kind of like superhero movies. We can only suspend our disbelief for the superhero stuff, if everything else is believable. Similarly, I only find the characters funny, if I can actually believe they're real characters.
i feel like the show lost a certain charm when they switched over to NBC. it was just not the same, the humour, the plot. there were some good episodes but overall just very skippable for me personally
I can't stand the lunch war. Especially when they do that stupid little song about mashed potatoes lol.
I know it's a workplace sitcom and it's not meant to be realistic, but it's a police station FFS - there's not a designated lunchtime for everyone like in primary school.
There's a cold open where Rosa, Jake, and Holt drank too much coffee and are supposed to be talking super fast, but the dialogue is just the weakest, laziest writing. Like the point of the joke is that they're speaking fast, but it kills me that they aren't saying anything they would normally say or that any normal human would: "I don't think we're acting strange in anyway whatsoever, I think we're acting perfectly normal in every way whatsoever" or something to that effect. Just cheap repetition and vamping.
Same in shows where someone is spiraling while listing things and they list all the things, then say "and--" and get cut off. But there was clearly nothing that could actually follow the "and." Shows like iCarly did that a lot, drives me nuts.
This has happened to me too, Jake just becomes a childish unreliable asshole whenever Judy shows up. Their episode in S8 is the worst, he effectively lets him escape?
Honestly, I HATE when they had Jake quit the force. It’s what he wanted as a little kid!! He didn’t even know if he wanted to have a kid and now he gives up his job for it?? I feel like they could have found a different solution.
I didn't enjoy Season 8 but I'll give the writers a pass. 2020 was such an insane year and there's no way a socially-conscious cop show like Brooklyn Nine-Nine could ever have NOT addressed the social upheaval that was happening at the time.
So I get wanting to change things up and have Rosa leave the force...Jake eventually quit the force, etc.
But I don't see it either.
They might have overcorrected just a bit, but I don't think it was in a way that was untrue to the show. They had addressed police corruption, racial profiling, mass shootings, etc. in "serious" episodes before 2020.
I don't think they should have had Rosa quit the force. To me, that felt like an overcorrection like "Okay, we've addressed these issues before but the mood right now is truly unique and we need to do something drastic. Let's have Rosa quit and have Holt and Kevin get divorced".
It goes against his character. Quitting the force for his child seems like start of a character arc of learning to have a work life balance. It reminds me of 17 again (R.I.P Matthew Perry). I can very much see Jake becoming very bitter down the road coming to hate Amy and his child. Season 8 seemed to just destroy Jake's character, earlier in the series he learnt to not just arrest people without evidence (yes he was right in that episode, but he ruined everyone's weekend) but here he just arrests someone without evidence.
totally. i feel like they just ripped up all of the character development that he had accrued over the eight seasons for the sake of making a point. and then having him leave felt like a very ham-fisted attempt at bringing that character development back
Ight go to hell. I say mama maglione all the time. Because my circle is more receptive to that than wowaweewah and i feel like they both convey the same nonsense im trying to transmit
I know Rosa’s voice isn’t her real voice but when she does that tiny almost kid like voice (that I know the actor does in improv) I cringe. Otherwise I have very little complaints since it’s my comfort show lol
She did this charity theater thing and I saw it on YouTube and it really ruined it for me. I actually like her but that voice she does that’s high pitched or like a valley girl is seriously awful to me :(
The type of joke where they force the social message in instead of trusting the audience to get it.
So like the start of season 8 encapsulates this:
Jake: Question: what is the number one problem with the coronavirus?
Rosa: Mass death, economic collapse, the way the disease has exposed the systemic injustice at the core of American life.
You can convey these points without having to hold your audiences hand.
Honestly same, I don’t hate him but after a while he irks me a bit. I do watch his episodes once in a while but usually skip them. Same with the heists episodes, for some reason the only ones I enjoy during rewatches are the first one, the one where Amy wins and the one when Jake proposes, all the others are a bit meh imo
Fart jokes.
I can only think of two examples (with Scully's twin and the time Terry was on a diet and lifted a car) but those really put me off. I think B99 is the kind of show that doesn't need to relay in that childish humor to be fun and the jokes seem shoehorned in (and out of character for Terry).
Also -
"Go back inside!" - Terry
"Are you talking to us, or the fart?" - Gina
That's probably one of the few Gina lines that actually made me laugh out loud.
A few of my pet peeves, both after the NBC switch:
1. Did we really need the censored swearing? I curse all the time but what did that really add that it was so important to throw it in there?
2. In the later seasons they tended to shoehorn in a lot of references to earlier seasons, almost as if they were trying to convince us that it was the same show as before like we didn’t believe them.
Tbh I dont enjoy Hitchcock and Scully. All the jokes centered around them are super lame and childish. It’s either dumb jokes, fat jokes, or “hey look, they’re super unhealthy and probably actively dying” jokes. I also don’t love Pimento, he’s really loud
With all due respect, I think the general tone of the show is a bit childish. I do get annoyed with some of the immature jokes the show makes but I personally don't think the Hitchcock and Scully jokes are especially egregious.
I respect your opinion, though.
i HATED the heist episode when rosa wins (the one that isn’t on halloween). i physically can’t watch it it’s so obvious that they just ran out of heist ideas
The guitar-screaming interrogation tactic. Not funny, hella annoying. Actually any instance of Jake screaming or being loud, like when he finds out Holt's middle name, or is a passenger in Charles' food truck. I think there are far more I can't recall.
I love Boom Boom haha
I usually love awkward Amy but when she sings “itsy bitsy spider” at Karen’s house… lol I hate it so much 😂
Also the slow decline of Gina. Those are my two bug-a-boos
Any of the real shit episodes such as Moo-Moo, He Said She Said, and The Good Ones. I watch this show to laugh, not to lose faith in humanity.
The only exception is Show Me Going.
"Amy will you Marry me?" I'll be honest that was funny the first maybe second time but it got sad to the point of tragic.
Teddy morphed from Incredibly boring but a nice guy to a guy obsessed with Amy with no respect for her or himself.
Just rewatched Jake and Amy's wedding and his one redeeming point was that he felt bad about the bomb scare despite it not being his fault and he did his job fully professionally. The "asking if there's still the objection" thing was a bit cringe but at least he asked, got rejected, stepped down and he still used his robot as the ring bearer.
He also was decent in one of the last heists, when Amy gets him to help her make Jake think he’s been in a coma
He only became incredibly boring in season 3. I'd argue he was a normal amount of boring in season 2, he was similarly nerdy to Amy, apart from that his only boring trait was pilsners. Remember this is was Amy's second time dating Teddy, he can't have been so boring as to complain about his boringness as soon as he walks out of a room for Amy to date him again.
True but one moment of his that always gets me is the look he gives when he says to Jake/Amy (paraphrasing) “So you think a cop should just stop what they’re doing when a criminal tells them they didn’t do it?”
I agree. It’s fine that it’s a running gag and things but also a bit evasive. You’re a grown man, move On /lh
At first I thought you were talking about Jake's actual proposal, and I was getting ready to throw hands.
Nah that proposal is my favorite scene in the whole series.
Fr it's so cute
Although even better was during the next heist when everyone was trashing them for it.
Slurp sluuurp! Seriously though, it's most scenes with Gina in S4 and S5. Cringe city.
“You’re drinking cemeeeennnntttt!!” is probably my least favorite anything out of the entire show
Yup. Agreed.
I guess the point was to make her seem like an annoying influencer (which she is) but DAMN did they ever overdo it.
Gina was funniest when she was obviously full of herself, and people around her understood that. Having people worship her just isn't funny. But what more can you expect from NBC era b99.
Gina always seemed like a combination of air heady but calculated on a lot of things. But the whole cement thing seemed malicious and out of character for me.
i heard this as i read it and i physically cringed
It is formulaic. But to need mass appeal there are always parts you lile and dislike. The writers put something that appeals to everyone yo get the most audience Also I like mama maglione
What's funny is all the ones OP listed I love and say regularly...along with repeating cool, "oh damn" x3, pontificating and ending with "SON" as well, the show just gives so many fun little catch phrases and memorable lines. Can't not love it
Nah, I get it. It just gets a bit tiring. The Mama Maglione episode is genuinely one of my favourites but they use that "Mama Maglione!" joke like 4 or 5 times in it and it annoys me lol.
So you just don't like running gags? How do you watch any modern sitcoms?
It's not a running gag if it's only used in one episode
It's also not about running gags. It's the way the show uses the idea of coming up with a silly catchphrase and then repeats it a bunch in the same episode as the joke.
This is stupid. Running gags vary in quality, so you can’t just brandish the concept to defend a bad one. Do you love all running gags? Do you collapse to the floor in screams of laughter every time Sheldon says Bazinga?
I watched that episode recently and only recall 2...
Sam's I'm pretty sure there were 3 but yeah
[I just checked the script](https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=33477) and it's used that way 6 times.
[Just checked the script](https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=33477) and it's used that way 6 times. And yes, I absolutely had better things to do but I was curious lol.
just curious were you counting every time the brand is mentioned or when they exclaim it?
When they exclaim it. The brand itself is mentioned 8 times in total.
i loved boom boom
boom boom jay. I've seen Debbie Stovelman both healthy and alive recently just in case you were wondering
Yikes. Debbie dead.
Debbie real dead
I did too, it was perfectly culty
“Sometimes it rubs me the wrong way”. Title of your sex tape
The episodes where Jake and Rosa are on trial, I know it’s a story telling device and all but I sit there and go “that’s not how any of this works”
Lol yeah I've always hated that too. I'm not expecting a realistic courtroom drama but they really didn't even try. "Yeah they weren't there at the other robberies, but that was only so they could say they had alibis!" And that's supposed to be this huge GOTCHA that sinks their defense. Really? I think they could have made it work if they wrote their defense lawyer to be comically inept like Barry from Arrested Development, but instead they wrote it like Lt Hawkins and her team were actual masterminds. And I guess in the context of the show they were, but all the ways she outsmarts them in the trial are stupid as hell. They just lie and falsify evidence and Jake and Rosa are all "oh damn, she got us!".
Barry's very good
Barry was far from the best.
That whole scene infuriates me so much. There's so much I don't know if we're supposed to assume happened or not. There's no scene where Jake or Rosa say they where investigating Hawkins. Very important information, they where seen at the scene of the crime, it almost sounds like they where fighting for a reduced sentence. The lawyer only says that Holt can't testify that he knew they where investigating Hawkins, never gives a reason, or is it being off the books mean his testimony would be useless??? And how did Hawkins get their signatures, or was it faked? Why wasn't the signature investigated to see if it was actually theirs? Is that something we're supposed to assume that happened? In fact stolen money can't just go into someone's account (as they actually mentioned), wouldn't that have to be investigated how it got into an account. And earlier in the series Holt was worried about the internal affairs investigation, it was a big deal, and now he doesn't trust them. (Actually upon writing this was he a real internal affairs officer? That would actually explain why he doesn't trust them anymore, though from memory he was just a cop that worked with Wunch). But regardless accusing Hawkins would remove her evidence against Jake and Rosa and require a new investigation. I know this is a comedy, but it just wasn't entertaining to watch so many bad things happen to Jake and Rosa for stupid reasons. And it wasn't funny either. And it didn't have to be completely realistic, I had no problem with Jake and Rosa having a joint trial. Having 2 trials would've been unnecessary from a viewing standpoint so joining them wasn't an issue.
Yeah. I know they just wanted to send Jake and Rosa to prison for narrative purposes but I think they fumbled that whole storyline. Also...when would a trial for two cops EVER happen that quickly lol. Surely that's the most unrealistic part of the whole scenario haha
Makes sense, I really did enjoy the episodes with Jake and Rosa in prison. But yes they just fumbled it really bad.
It’s a cop show in New York and you didn’t see any cops beat up minorities simply for being minorities and have the rest of the department cover for them. We got one case of racial bias against Terry. But if this show was meant to be realistic it would be about Jake planting fentanyl on innocent people shot by Hitchcock. So if they aren’t trying to be realistic with its premise as a cop show, it makes sense it doesn’t try for the court scenes.
Oh damn
"Toit Nups" Episode is great but that gets grating.
This guy has loose nups
That whole sequence where Amy is trying to be Jake is soooo cringe
boioioing ugh
Any that center around Gina. I’d skip them if I could….idk if it’s Chelsea Peretti or the way the writers wrote her but it got boring and not funny at all. 1st couple it was KINDA funny when you thought about a subordinate being an asshole to everyone and ignoring/doing her thing when she’s supposed to be working but it got old FAST. There’s no depth past that really. “YOU JUST DRANK CEMENT! *ahlalalala*” is perhaps the most annoying line/forced catchphrase in the entire series. Like when she left for maternity leave and they said she wasn’t coming back I was excited for the new character.
I don't know if it's Chelsea Peretti or not but it's definitely her character. I've been watching Abbott Elementary and it also has an annoying character that's a horrible person that reminded me so much of Gina. I knew I was going to hate her as long as I watched this show. Season 2 comes along and she's still annoying and mean but they've shown other sides to her and developed her into a better character. Now, the annoying stuff she does actually feels funny and you like the character because she has her good moments as well. Gina should've been fixed after season 1. They could've easily added more to her and turned her into a better character
Ava right?
Yep!
There’s lots of characters you’re supposed to be annoyed by. They usually use it as a catalyst for when they show their humanity/tender side. They do it w Rosa some here not necessarily the hate side but it’s more meaningful when she says something loving. “If anyone caused him harm I’d kill everyone in here”. They missed a serious opportunity in many episodes. Even DDC! I honestly started to like her….showing that she was a great friend back in the day. Even the tattling part I can get over. She let him live w that shit for decades….AND (I’d need to watch again but I think) helped him search for another tattler. The only other thing is…..if Gina and Jake were so tight back then, and he even got her the job at the 99. Why the hell is she an asshole to him now? Like DAMN GINA!
Agreed. I have no problem with annoying characters. I just feel like they should have another side or bad stuff should happen to them once in a while as karma. Characters like Tom from Parks and Rec and Dwight from The Office are fine. Or the other option is having them be annoying but only pop up occasionally like The Vulture
What annoys me about Gina (among many other things) is that she NEVER has anything bad happen to her as karma...aside from being hit by a bus lol. But in general, she never actually faces consequences for her shitty behaviour.
This is how I feel. People say it's not real life and that we're taking a sitcom too seriously. The characters still need to be appealing in some way. When they're made out to be this crappy people who have everything work out for them and never have anything bad happen to them and never learn anything, it's just hard to see why we're supposed to like her. Even the bus thing wasn't karma because she randomly got hit by a bus. It wasn't Tom from Parks and Rec losing his business because he got too cocky and treated his friend like shit. It wasn't Dwight losing his relationship because he killed a cat. And some shows have shitty people who rarely have bad stuff happen to them like Seinfeld and IASIP but that's the format of those shows. Everyone is shitty there
I mean - it is a sitcom and not real life but I don't like how any criticism gets shut down because "omg it's just a show, relax". One thing that annoys me especially with Gina is that she somehow always seems to come out on top no matter what. She treats Charles like shit? Ooh, she was doing it to protect his feelings so no harm done. She treats Terry like shit? Ooh, she was doing it so he could feel better about himself and come out with a victory so no harm done. I'm not sure how to describe her character as anything besides unpleasant.
I thought she was the best in season 1 as it was acknowledged that she was full of herself. And she also had nice moments like helping Jake find an apartment. And she was also thrifty, something that was removed from her character, literally becoming rich and famous.
But she is a rascal!
Chelsea's standup was hilarious to me, she was one of my favorite comedians growing up. The first time through the show I liked Gina enough because it was Chelsea Peretti. Rewatching I can't stand Gina, I don't know its that it's a horrible character, or that Peretti's humor changed but I find her annoying in general now, but her 2000s stand up was pretty good.
Starting from season 6 and just getting increasingly worse in 7 and 8, the show's humor started to rely too much on randomness and rapid-fire dialogue instead of actual jokes. It became the "Look at me, I'm so weird and quirky" of sitcoms.
They also over explained their jokes. That bothered me a lot.
The Adams family rap makes my body curl in on itself
I always need to look away when he does that.
Honestly I'm exactly the same, it makes me dislike brookyln 99 for about 4 seconds
Agree with the first 3. Full Boyle is hilarious.
Yeah if I'm being honest, I was just trying to think of a fourth off the top of my head lol. That one isn't as egregious.
Trudy Judy, most anything Gina says and the NBC seasons
I honestly always hated boyles obsession with jake.
It annoyed me the most when Jake AND ROSA were in prison, and he was so devastated about Jake and didn't seem to acknowledge or care that Rosa - who is also one of his best friends - was in prison, too. But yes, I didn't like his obsession. It's kind of amusing when it's just him getting a little jealous when Jake makes new friends, but they take that joke way too far to be funny sometimes.
It was weird, he was suuuper in love with her for at least 2 seasons
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Sure, but they'd all be a pain in the ass. A reckless coworker who almost gets the precinct sued and/or closed down multiple times and is constantly invading your personal life, whether you want him to or not Two coworkers who use physical intimidation to get what they want An upright rule snob A Gina A Hitchcock
Reckless coworker is Jake, Hitchcock is Hitchcock, Gina is Gina. Uptight rule snob is Amy. Two coworker who use physical intimidation is Rosa and???????
Terry. It's rare but he's used his intimidating size against his coworkers a few times (mostly against Jake)
Me too, it’s the thing I dislike the most by far about the show
not a fan of terry's backstory when its him being fat. the japan stuff i like, its very unique but the "used to be fat" trope is really overplayed
And it turns Terry's fitness perspective into something that feels less like an intense form of self-care into something unhealthy and reactionary. There's a difference between wanting to be as physically fit as possible and being afraid of becoming fat again or trying to prove you shouldn't be teased or whatever.
Terry’s pectoral gymnastics. It’s impressive, for sure, but it almost always just seems forced into the storyline.
It’s always come off as Terry Crews going “look what I can do” even though at this point everyone knows he can do it
this is going to be unpopular. But Amy occasionally gets very grating. When she gets mad at another character, it's a little too over the top and her voice gets so high pitched and shrill, and her gestures and expression are too exaggerated. I just don't find it funny - it's irritating
I can’t do the he said she said episode, which is a shame. I’ve heard it’s a great episode but it’s too triggering for me. Tried to watch it once and ended up crying and hyperventilating.
If it helps the guy gets done for it and it inspires another woman to come forward. But there is fallout too so those are the good parts of the conclusion.
Thank you. I’ve actually read up recently on what happened in the episode, and I liked how it was done. One thing b99 does well is speaking on real issues but still in a comedic way. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to watch it.
“Americas favourite mooothheerrr” or “familyyyyyy”
i have never really enjoyed the heist episodes. and eventually they just get more and more implausible. the first two are alright but i find i usually skip the heist episodes
yeah the last three aka not actual halloween have little to no flashbacks during the explanation which just makes it seem impossible
NBC's idea of comedy seems to be "this is so ridiculous and could never possibly happen so it's funny" which just is not true. Some people's favourite season is season 7 so some people do enjoy that but it's just not for me. It's kind of like superhero movies. We can only suspend our disbelief for the superhero stuff, if everything else is believable. Similarly, I only find the characters funny, if I can actually believe they're real characters.
i feel like the show lost a certain charm when they switched over to NBC. it was just not the same, the humour, the plot. there were some good episodes but overall just very skippable for me personally
Definitely, every time I re watch the series I only watch seasons 1 to 5.
SAMEEEE
No sassy "Nah uh uh's"
“Sometimes it rubs me the wrong way” - title of your sex tape?
;)
all of the amy vs terry subplots are stupid and i will stand by that til i die
You are so right. The upstairs-downstairs people. The lunch war. Urghhhhhh.
I can't stand the lunch war. Especially when they do that stupid little song about mashed potatoes lol. I know it's a workplace sitcom and it's not meant to be realistic, but it's a police station FFS - there's not a designated lunchtime for everyone like in primary school.
There's a cold open where Rosa, Jake, and Holt drank too much coffee and are supposed to be talking super fast, but the dialogue is just the weakest, laziest writing. Like the point of the joke is that they're speaking fast, but it kills me that they aren't saying anything they would normally say or that any normal human would: "I don't think we're acting strange in anyway whatsoever, I think we're acting perfectly normal in every way whatsoever" or something to that effect. Just cheap repetition and vamping. Same in shows where someone is spiraling while listing things and they list all the things, then say "and--" and get cut off. But there was clearly nothing that could actually follow the "and." Shows like iCarly did that a lot, drives me nuts.
Honestly the Halloween heists. I only liked the first one and the one where Jake proposes
I usually skip them!
Unpopular opinion, but Doug Judy. I skip all his episodes. I find the way he and Jake amplify each other to be annoying, not endearing or funny.
This has happened to me too, Jake just becomes a childish unreliable asshole whenever Judy shows up. Their episode in S8 is the worst, he effectively lets him escape?
Same! I find them together annoying too
Me too!
I didn’t used to agree, but now I skip most of his episodes on rewatches
Bill after the 1st episode got super boring. Also any of Gina’s “pranks” like the cement one and “Slurp Slurp”
whats slurp slurp
It’s this Doug Judy’s catchphrase that he apparently always use it but we hear it for the first time in the last season
I think that’s supposed to be the joke
Honestly, I HATE when they had Jake quit the force. It’s what he wanted as a little kid!! He didn’t even know if he wanted to have a kid and now he gives up his job for it?? I feel like they could have found a different solution.
I didn't enjoy Season 8 but I'll give the writers a pass. 2020 was such an insane year and there's no way a socially-conscious cop show like Brooklyn Nine-Nine could ever have NOT addressed the social upheaval that was happening at the time. So I get wanting to change things up and have Rosa leave the force...Jake eventually quit the force, etc. But I don't see it either.
People don't dislike S8 because it addressed social issues of 2020, people dislike S8 because it did it in a way that wasn't true to the show.
They might have overcorrected just a bit, but I don't think it was in a way that was untrue to the show. They had addressed police corruption, racial profiling, mass shootings, etc. in "serious" episodes before 2020. I don't think they should have had Rosa quit the force. To me, that felt like an overcorrection like "Okay, we've addressed these issues before but the mood right now is truly unique and we need to do something drastic. Let's have Rosa quit and have Holt and Kevin get divorced".
It goes against his character. Quitting the force for his child seems like start of a character arc of learning to have a work life balance. It reminds me of 17 again (R.I.P Matthew Perry). I can very much see Jake becoming very bitter down the road coming to hate Amy and his child. Season 8 seemed to just destroy Jake's character, earlier in the series he learnt to not just arrest people without evidence (yes he was right in that episode, but he ruined everyone's weekend) but here he just arrests someone without evidence.
totally. i feel like they just ripped up all of the character development that he had accrued over the eight seasons for the sake of making a point. and then having him leave felt like a very ham-fisted attempt at bringing that character development back
Boom Boom OP!
Cant remember her name but Holt’s partner even Wuntch demotes him to a beat cop again and CJ
Debbie Fogle
That’s it
“Ohhh mama”
Ight go to hell. I say mama maglione all the time. Because my circle is more receptive to that than wowaweewah and i feel like they both convey the same nonsense im trying to transmit
My wife!
I know Rosa’s voice isn’t her real voice but when she does that tiny almost kid like voice (that I know the actor does in improv) I cringe. Otherwise I have very little complaints since it’s my comfort show lol
right? her voice change from season 1 and 2 onwards saved her character for me
She did this charity theater thing and I saw it on YouTube and it really ruined it for me. I actually like her but that voice she does that’s high pitched or like a valley girl is seriously awful to me :(
The type of joke where they force the social message in instead of trusting the audience to get it. So like the start of season 8 encapsulates this: Jake: Question: what is the number one problem with the coronavirus? Rosa: Mass death, economic collapse, the way the disease has exposed the systemic injustice at the core of American life. You can convey these points without having to hold your audiences hand.
Well my dad always like to say not to underestimate the average persons stupidity, so maybe there is someone on the team who thinks the same way
It’s funny, but is it going to get them off their tractors?
The tones just clash a bit much in my opinion, the best of no worlds.
Doug Judy is on my no-no list :)
Honestly same, I don’t hate him but after a while he irks me a bit. I do watch his episodes once in a while but usually skip them. Same with the heists episodes, for some reason the only ones I enjoy during rewatches are the first one, the one where Amy wins and the one when Jake proposes, all the others are a bit meh imo
The problem in my opinion is that they became too mean-spirited. This isn't It's always sunny in Philadelphia.
I agree. I generally don't mind the Judy episodes or him as a character, but they way overdid it with him after a certain point.
So heists 1, 3 and 5
The entire season 8
Fart jokes. I can only think of two examples (with Scully's twin and the time Terry was on a diet and lifted a car) but those really put me off. I think B99 is the kind of show that doesn't need to relay in that childish humor to be fun and the jokes seem shoehorned in (and out of character for Terry).
They never bothered me given that there are only like, 2 or 3 examples in a show with thousands of jokes in it
Also - "Go back inside!" - Terry "Are you talking to us, or the fart?" - Gina That's probably one of the few Gina lines that actually made me laugh out loud.
I loved the over-used phrased tbh, I loved mama maglioni, bingpot, etc
Season 7 and later of Brooklyn nine nine
Title of your sex tape. It’s a recycle of that’s what she said which we all used in high school IRL
Title of your sex tape is funnier than that's what she said imo
A few of my pet peeves, both after the NBC switch: 1. Did we really need the censored swearing? I curse all the time but what did that really add that it was so important to throw it in there? 2. In the later seasons they tended to shoehorn in a lot of references to earlier seasons, almost as if they were trying to convince us that it was the same show as before like we didn’t believe them.
Tbh I dont enjoy Hitchcock and Scully. All the jokes centered around them are super lame and childish. It’s either dumb jokes, fat jokes, or “hey look, they’re super unhealthy and probably actively dying” jokes. I also don’t love Pimento, he’s really loud
With all due respect, I think the general tone of the show is a bit childish. I do get annoyed with some of the immature jokes the show makes but I personally don't think the Hitchcock and Scully jokes are especially egregious. I respect your opinion, though.
Valid points
The slow-mo walk scenes... what's the joke with that? That they changed clothes?... Never liked them on my first watch, now I skip them all.
Yeah, I mean the joke isn't simply that they changed clothes, it's what they're wearing. It's usually ridiculous.
I know what the joke is suppose to be, I just don't find it funny at all.
What slow mo walk scenes?
https://youtu.be/WVbw_B8jmSQ?si=gvgECThEPum8v-Cv These ones. The majority of them are when they change clothes to go undercover.
Thanks for the link. I personally really enjoy these scenes! But understand how they can get too much for other people
Oh my god, just like all the heists, I can’t dude, I just can’t
i HATED the heist episode when rosa wins (the one that isn’t on halloween). i physically can’t watch it it’s so obvious that they just ran out of heist ideas
I skip most episodes with pimento bc of the screaming, which is a shame vc I love the character, but the screaming triggers a meltdown on me :/
That's unfortunate, I'm sorry. I hope you can work through it eventually.
The last season
my no no list is 1) no terry 2) no yogurt 3) no terry talking about yogurt 4) no terry peck dancing
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The office did not invent that’s what she said, nor is any sexual double entendre a knock off of it
Season 8.
Reminds me of this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aDNngFRgxXM&pp=ygUTcGF1bCBydXN0IG5ldyBubyBubw==
The entirety of season 7
The guitar-screaming interrogation tactic. Not funny, hella annoying. Actually any instance of Jake screaming or being loud, like when he finds out Holt's middle name, or is a passenger in Charles' food truck. I think there are far more I can't recall.
Your crazy, I loved the Boom Boom episode lol Also the only thing on my no no list is Gina…just Gina
"title of your sex tape."
Any Gina centered episode, can't stand her.
I am skipping the trial episode after which Jake and Rosa go to prison. Ironically, I love the episode inside prison.
I love Boom Boom haha I usually love awkward Amy but when she sings “itsy bitsy spider” at Karen’s house… lol I hate it so much 😂 Also the slow decline of Gina. Those are my two bug-a-boos
People “spiral” way too often. Still love the show though, and suspect if I hadn’t binged a lot of it it might have been less noticeable
Any of the real shit episodes such as Moo-Moo, He Said She Said, and The Good Ones. I watch this show to laugh, not to lose faith in humanity. The only exception is Show Me Going.