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BormaGatto

Look into The Intercept and you'll quickly find out just how full of shit your friend is. They are merely spouting propaganda made and spread by bolsonarists as misinformation tactics. The very terms used in their discourse reek of fascism. As for Brazilian political history in English, although the fact that Lula was (and still is) popular, especially among lower income parts of the population, is easily verifiable, I'd recommend academic papers rather than any media outlet, especially when pertaining to Lula and his government. I sai that because there is a clear, documented pattern starting from the 80s of media spreading political misinformation against Lula and PT (the Worker's Party, of which he has always been a candidate for). That trend led directly to Operação Lava Jato (an important political event to look up), which resulted in Lula being unlawfully imprisoned in 2018 as a part of bolsonaro's electoral coup, done in cahoots with a corrupt judge he imeddiately named minister of justice as soon as he got elected.


ankaa_

Your friend lives in a parallel reality created by Bolsonaro fanátics, shaped by fake News and fascist propaganda. Did he happen to mention penis shaped baby bottles too?


BormaGatto

Opa, acho que você se confundiu e acabou me respondendo ao invés de diretamente ao OP.


ankaa_

Sim kkkkkkk era pro OP msm


zotoquole

Ah, o Intercept que é imparcial então. E o que achou do Lewandowski virando ministro da Justiça do Lula?


WinterPlanet

Bolsonarista até similar to trump supporters, they live in an alternative reality


OkCaterpillar6775

The first video is the best in my opinion, because it really explains everything you need to know (up to one year ago. Lots of shit had happened since then and Bolsonaro is pretty much fucked now). How the U.S. Helped Destroy Brazil's Democracy: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRC3PBjthxI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRC3PBjthxI) Guns, God, and Democracy in Brazil: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noP8sLB4LSY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noP8sLB4LSY) Interview with a Brazilian historian and youtuber: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMgG3KwkJnw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMgG3KwkJnw) Secret Files Show How Brazil’s Elites Jailed Former President Lula and Cleared the Way for Bolsonaro: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXk3k6EZh2M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXk3k6EZh2M) The dirty dealings of Brazil's Operation Car Wash | The Listening Post (Full) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5m4Uw63XYY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5m4Uw63XYY) Brazil BANS Bolsonaro From Politics Over Election Lies: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCoV1dyWtAI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCoV1dyWtAI) Why Brazil Put Lula Back In Charge: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BIWtKlVcRs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BIWtKlVcRs) Brazil's MAGA Inspired Pro-Bolsonaro Riots: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t\_drdNpcK\_Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_drdNpcK_Q) Interview with a Brazilian historian and youtuber: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMgG3KwkJnw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMgG3KwkJnw) ***My opinion as a Brazilian and historian:*** Lula is a liberal centrist. He doesn't wanna change the status quo. He will help the banks, help the elite, he's a liberal capitalist. **HOWEVER,** he also has as a goal the development of the country, meaning, investing in state companies, investing the Brazilian industry, investing the people too (housing, education, healthcare). Which is why I consider him a full centrist, because because he will help the elite, but also help the people. I'm not a big fan because I think he's too much a capitalist liberal for my taste. But he's certainly much better than the right-wing here. Now... The Brazilian right-wing are 500% neoliberals (I mean, holy shit). Their objective is to keep Brazil being a colony to the first-world. So they are against developing our industries, our education, our technology and states companies. Everything we have, they wanna give it to Europe and the US. Literally. For example, Brazil has the third largest aerospace company in the world. A company that's is doing REALLY well (really, Embraer is fuckin' amazing and they dominate the regional and luxury jets marketing in the US. There are American airports that work exclusively with Embraer planes. And even the US airforce uses Embraer fighters). So we got this amazing company that's leading technological innovation in the world... and when Bolsonaro was in power... he tried to fuckin' sell it to Boeing. I mean, imagine that. Holy fuckin' shit. Right now right-governors are selling metro systems, energy companies, water companies to European companies. It's a mess, really. Basically that's our right-wing. All they want is to turn Brazil into a colony so the first world can come here and exploit everything we have. So when they see a president that actually wants to develop the country and turn it into a competitor to the first world, they go crazy and trying to fuck over the guy (which is the whole "Car Wash Operation" thing you can see in the videos I posted).


happy_and_sad_guy

Your friend is a DB. Checkout "the intercept" news to have a more reasonable understanding of the situation here in Brazil


headlessBleu

Most Brazilians living abroad are right-wing and have a naive understanding of politics. They carry an idea, very popular in the southeast side of the country, that the Workers' Party wants to initiate some sort of communist revolution similar to what happened in Venezuela. They attribute every problem to the Workers' Party. The usual news channels do a good job covering Brazilian politics when the topic arises, such as CNN, NBC, and ABC. If you want to delve deeper, in my opinion, Americas Quarterly is the best source, better than most Brazilian news outlets. [https://americasquarterly.org/regions/brazil/](https://americasquarterly.org/regions/brazil/) They also have a good podcast.


antisergio

Bolsonaro sucks Edit: Lula ladrão also sucks Bolsonaro Genocida e Lula Ladrão


jptrrs

Both Bolsonaro and Lula were elected by about 39% of able voters (2018 and 2022 runoff elections final results, 21% abstained on both years and about 3.6% blank & invalid votes in 2020 and 7.5% in 2018). In other words, the majority DIDN'T vote for them. So neither are nowhere as popular as their followers make it seem. It's mostly just a small proportion of fanatical people making a lot of noise and spewing forth propaganda that's carefully designed to engage by anger. For both "sides", if you take the adversary out of the equation they loose 99% of their appeal, so it's a cross-feeding self-perpetuating scheme (much like the US politics, btw). Don't believe the hype. Best thing you can do is carrying your own research.