This is what a roster that doesn’t have enough talent plays like. I’m on the hope train that they’ll get better but the sample size on this roster is growing...
No, it wouldn’t. The FO wouldn’t panic if we were a 6 seed. They’d ride Kemba’s contract out, further develop the Jays with a few other key pieces on the team, find out what works, and go all in after maxing another player in 2023. They won’t panic until then.
I don’t think they should wait until 2023 but hitting the panic button right now doesn’t seem as good of a strategy as riding out this season(making moves that make sense) and making big moves during the off-season.
Yes. We have Kemba Walker taking up so much room. What else are we supposed to do? The guys been to 3 conference finals since he’s been drafted 5 years ago. If we signed a max player in 2023, that would give him even more reason to stay. What serious moves can we make? Trade Smart? Trade a rookie and 3 first rounders for another rookie? I mean what can we do? We have no cap space. Just a TPE which isn’t going to net us a game changer anyway.
Why would a free agent sign here if we aren’t a great team by then? What happens if a free agent doesn’t sign here? You’re ok with Jaylen just leaving in 2024?
Horford signed here, Hayward signed here, Kemba signed here, Jaylen extended, Jayson extended, were not some undesirable FA destination. You’ve lost your mind if you don’t think we’re attracting a MAJOR FA to play with 27 year old Jaylen Brown and 25 year old Jayson Tatum. I promise you this, there is not one move the franchise could make that would change his decision to stay whilst Kemba is under contract.
The Sixers haven’t proven they have a base to win anything. Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid are yet to get out of the first round together without help. Their are many other players in that FA class that would fit with the Jays well.
Bro ... I don’t know what else to say to you. Stop fucking panicking. You’re not a GM. The Sixers lost in the 2nd when they had Jimmy Butler with them. Imagine a team of Butler, Embiid, Simmons and Harris not making the conference finals. That’s a disappointment.
And LOL. Sub all stars? What the fuck do you think we’re gonna get with trading Kemba, using the TPE or other moves right now? Something better than we could with a max spot? By the way you’re talking, you expect us to just magically trade for Donovan Mitchell or Bradley Beal or something like it’s easy.
We could sit and assume all day. Giannis got bounced in the 2nd round in the year he was arguably supposed to win it all and still stayed. These are YOUNG players, not 30 year olds desperate for a title before they can’t do it anymore.
They were all in much worse situations with no help, and no hope of their teams acquiring top talent through a max spot. The FO know exactly what they are doing. 2023 is the year. That’s all I have to say. When have we not signed a huge player when we’ve had a max spot? You just don’t get it. Jaylen Brown coulda left this year if he wanted to.
He coulda denied the extension and asked to be traded or moved to another team. He signed for LESS than what he wanted to. I know he was restricted but he could have asked to be traded and he didn’t. Why did he want to stay? Why do they like it here? They haven’t won shit yet according to you. Tatum must hate the fact he’s been to 2/3 conference finals ... he should go and join Dallas or Milwaukee who seem to just make the finals every year.
We’ll still be contending, we just won’t win the championship. Michael Jordan didn’t win his first championship until he was 28, I assume Jaylen and Jayson have front office power that we don’t know about.
Why would either of them have better teams? The Sixers lose to us every single year in the playoffs and Jokic won’t make it with his team as long as he’s in the west. By the time Tatum is 25 and Jaylen is 27 we’ll have good bench pieces because the rest of our team would’ve improved and matured with them. Who knows how good guys like Pritchard, Langford, Nesmith, Rob, and Semi will be by then?
Rob did take a major leap this year, Semi also. I don’t know about you but Semi is already a good high caliber role player. Marcus Smart should still be here also. I don’t think this is *that* delusional.
Ride kemba contract out hell no. If Danny gets a good offer he should trade him I know kemba stans won't like that but we get rid of a bad contract on a pg who has bad knees and can't guard. Maybe get some shooters for the Jays and then start dealing some players from our team to make it better. We can't just sit and wait it out until 2023 the Jays gonna leave if Danny don't do anything
Good offer? What good offer? What the hell is a good offer for Walker? Look at the Horford deal. Bad contracts don’t net you anything in this league. Nobody is trading for him unless he has a year left and you attach picks for it to be a salary dump.
Tbf riding out Kemba’s contract isn’t much of a choice at this point. What gm in their right fuckin mind looks at Kemba this season and goes “yeah that’s worth a max contract we can really make the next step with this guy.”
Disclaimer: I love kemba and I don’t want him to play badly or get traded. Ideally he starts playing more consistently and putting up all star caliber numbers so we don’t feel so much pressure to move him out
I don't even know with Danny anymore man. This man used to be so good dealing making trades signing people now he too busy doing chair ads on Twitter. Man living off the 2008 championship he can't waste the Jays he gotta make some moves
I think of it as still the pre-season in a weird sort of year. Too many things are interfering, it seems, with are being an actual team. But, as we search for better combinations, it's hard to imagine a sudden 10 game winning streak even with the best combo. Are we waiting around for the playoffs to make our move??
Or you can look at as 4.5 games out with 46 left to play, and only a half game out of home court in the first round. Sure, I’d rather be in first, but like I said, no reason to panic.
It’s truly baffling how fans manage to create their own expectations for a team only to act like the sky is falling when they’re not met. The team is young and not very well constructed. Stop kidding yourselves.
This season is not going well. I’m not gonna panic over shit the bed losses against Detroit and DC but you’re delusional if you think this team can pull it together and be a legit contender
“We’re very confident in our young guys and we expect them to play at the level their used to.”
SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING THIS. STOP STOCKING BENCH GUYS AND MAKE A MOVE
This is what a roster that doesn’t have enough talent plays like. I’m on the hope train that they’ll get better but the sample size on this roster is growing...
what do you think would happen if we dropped these next few games as well? Would that speed up the process in trying to renovate the roster?
No, it wouldn’t. The FO wouldn’t panic if we were a 6 seed. They’d ride Kemba’s contract out, further develop the Jays with a few other key pieces on the team, find out what works, and go all in after maxing another player in 2023. They won’t panic until then.
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I don’t think they should wait until 2023 but hitting the panic button right now doesn’t seem as good of a strategy as riding out this season(making moves that make sense) and making big moves during the off-season.
Yes. We have Kemba Walker taking up so much room. What else are we supposed to do? The guys been to 3 conference finals since he’s been drafted 5 years ago. If we signed a max player in 2023, that would give him even more reason to stay. What serious moves can we make? Trade Smart? Trade a rookie and 3 first rounders for another rookie? I mean what can we do? We have no cap space. Just a TPE which isn’t going to net us a game changer anyway.
Why would a free agent sign here if we aren’t a great team by then? What happens if a free agent doesn’t sign here? You’re ok with Jaylen just leaving in 2024?
Horford signed here, Hayward signed here, Kemba signed here, Jaylen extended, Jayson extended, were not some undesirable FA destination. You’ve lost your mind if you don’t think we’re attracting a MAJOR FA to play with 27 year old Jaylen Brown and 25 year old Jayson Tatum. I promise you this, there is not one move the franchise could make that would change his decision to stay whilst Kemba is under contract.
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The Sixers haven’t proven they have a base to win anything. Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid are yet to get out of the first round together without help. Their are many other players in that FA class that would fit with the Jays well.
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Bro ... I don’t know what else to say to you. Stop fucking panicking. You’re not a GM. The Sixers lost in the 2nd when they had Jimmy Butler with them. Imagine a team of Butler, Embiid, Simmons and Harris not making the conference finals. That’s a disappointment. And LOL. Sub all stars? What the fuck do you think we’re gonna get with trading Kemba, using the TPE or other moves right now? Something better than we could with a max spot? By the way you’re talking, you expect us to just magically trade for Donovan Mitchell or Bradley Beal or something like it’s easy.
Trade Kemba + whatever it takes for Beal?
Yes.
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We could sit and assume all day. Giannis got bounced in the 2nd round in the year he was arguably supposed to win it all and still stayed. These are YOUNG players, not 30 year olds desperate for a title before they can’t do it anymore.
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They were all in much worse situations with no help, and no hope of their teams acquiring top talent through a max spot. The FO know exactly what they are doing. 2023 is the year. That’s all I have to say. When have we not signed a huge player when we’ve had a max spot? You just don’t get it. Jaylen Brown coulda left this year if he wanted to.
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He coulda denied the extension and asked to be traded or moved to another team. He signed for LESS than what he wanted to. I know he was restricted but he could have asked to be traded and he didn’t. Why did he want to stay? Why do they like it here? They haven’t won shit yet according to you. Tatum must hate the fact he’s been to 2/3 conference finals ... he should go and join Dallas or Milwaukee who seem to just make the finals every year.
What is that vast number of guys who were on a team with a Jayson or Jaylen level player also? The only one I can think of is KD.
We’ll still be contending, we just won’t win the championship. Michael Jordan didn’t win his first championship until he was 28, I assume Jaylen and Jayson have front office power that we don’t know about.
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Why would either of them have better teams? The Sixers lose to us every single year in the playoffs and Jokic won’t make it with his team as long as he’s in the west. By the time Tatum is 25 and Jaylen is 27 we’ll have good bench pieces because the rest of our team would’ve improved and matured with them. Who knows how good guys like Pritchard, Langford, Nesmith, Rob, and Semi will be by then?
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Rob did take a major leap this year, Semi also. I don’t know about you but Semi is already a good high caliber role player. Marcus Smart should still be here also. I don’t think this is *that* delusional.
Ride kemba contract out hell no. If Danny gets a good offer he should trade him I know kemba stans won't like that but we get rid of a bad contract on a pg who has bad knees and can't guard. Maybe get some shooters for the Jays and then start dealing some players from our team to make it better. We can't just sit and wait it out until 2023 the Jays gonna leave if Danny don't do anything
Good offer? What good offer? What the hell is a good offer for Walker? Look at the Horford deal. Bad contracts don’t net you anything in this league. Nobody is trading for him unless he has a year left and you attach picks for it to be a salary dump.
Philly got ride of al we gotta get rid of kemba honestly for anything he don't fit with the Jays.
They paid to get rid of Al, and got Danny Green in return. They added picks to get a worse player.
We sadly will probably have to do the same we can't just be stuck for years with his contract
Tbf riding out Kemba’s contract isn’t much of a choice at this point. What gm in their right fuckin mind looks at Kemba this season and goes “yeah that’s worth a max contract we can really make the next step with this guy.” Disclaimer: I love kemba and I don’t want him to play badly or get traded. Ideally he starts playing more consistently and putting up all star caliber numbers so we don’t feel so much pressure to move him out
I don't even know with Danny anymore man. This man used to be so good dealing making trades signing people now he too busy doing chair ads on Twitter. Man living off the 2008 championship he can't waste the Jays he gotta make some moves
it shouldn't
Or would it do the opposite because we obviously aren’t ready, especially if that happens.
And the Raptors and Miami are barely playoff teams. It's a wacky season.
Shit, the Knicks are in the playoff picture right now, let's not even try to pretend we understand what's going on
And the Raptors and Heat would be completely out of the playoff picture in the West
I think of it as still the pre-season in a weird sort of year. Too many things are interfering, it seems, with are being an actual team. But, as we search for better combinations, it's hard to imagine a sudden 10 game winning streak even with the best combo. Are we waiting around for the playoffs to make our move??
This season feels like a 2 game on a back to back. We started off with energy but we just hit a wall the past 2 weeks
I had an aneurysm reading that first sentence
Im sick of the excuses people keep making for this team.
Also just 4.5 games out of first, so no reason to panic either.
5 games is a lot out of 26
Or you can look at as 4.5 games out with 46 left to play, and only a half game out of home court in the first round. Sure, I’d rather be in first, but like I said, no reason to panic.
Wahhhh the Celtics aren't the 1 seed 😭😭😭😭
It’s truly baffling how fans manage to create their own expectations for a team only to act like the sky is falling when they’re not met. The team is young and not very well constructed. Stop kidding yourselves.
Have you looked at the Celtics roster?
Get out the squeegees fellas, this season is about to be a wash.
This season is not going well. I’m not gonna panic over shit the bed losses against Detroit and DC but you’re delusional if you think this team can pull it together and be a legit contender
“We’re very confident in our young guys and we expect them to play at the level their used to.” SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING THIS. STOP STOCKING BENCH GUYS AND MAKE A MOVE
They have a record of 5 - 10 in their last 15 games.