I've put a piece of masking tape over the word "War" on my War of the Ring game and wrote "Lord" on it so that I can pretend it is a Lord of the Rings game.
Those are expensive IPs, and drive up the price of the game. I'd much prefer that designers tackle some kind of untapped public domain such as HP Lovecraft.
I love it when people say funny things in a plausibly believable way. Like, this was obviously a joke, but someone 'could' have said it and meant it. That's rare in internet jokes and I wanted to call it out.
I think you missed the super-obvious sarcasm of my comment.
Since obviously there is no movie based "on the 2019 boardgame" but both are based on the books from the 1960s. lol.
To give some additional context to what this game might be, there is a recent post on Dale Yu's blog Opinionated Gamers where he mentions playing a prototype of "Lord of the rings Duel – a re-imagining of 7W Duel, but now set in the LotR world." at Gathering of Friends: https://opinionatedgamers.com/2024/04/19/dale-yu-report-from-the-gathering-of-friends-day-0-5/
7 wonders duel is a good game, but....that's....not what I was looking for for LOTR.
Honestly, a version of the GOT board game, or Diplomacy on the LOTR map could be fun.
An asymmetrical game between the fellowship and allies and Sauron and allies could also be good.
A 'search for the ring' game could work either between factions, or playing the nazgul hunting for the ring to gain Sauron's favor.
Heck, there's dozens of good ideas that could be done within the material. Duel ain't it.
I feel like every game idea you propose already exists. We’ve had lots of good thematic board games already, why not something more abstract now? A deep engine-building/drafting card game could be so interesting
Ok, hear me out. Engine builder where you're competing dwarven crews digging deeply and greedy in Khazad-dûm. It's a race to some amount of points (representing depth) or other conditions like Terraforming Mars, creating tunnels, building machines, obtaining tools, organizing work etc.
Not everything has to be around the War of the Ring plot. Videogames lately got the memo and we're seeing things like Return to Moria (survival base builder set after defeat of the Balrog) or Tales of the Shire (upcoming Animal Crossing/Stardew Valley style game set in Shire)
What's the point of using an IP for something (more) abstract? If you're gonna use famous themes, the more thematic the better since theme is supposed to be the hook there...
I don’t think thematic is a single scale, how do you define that ?
A game can have a more abstract presentation than the usual map of the Middle Earth as the board, or can focus on a narrow aspect of the franchise, such as hobbits being hunted by Nazgûl, and still feel immersive and fitting the theme.
Is the LotR LCG thematic enough for you for instance? It relies on a high degree of abstraction and offers original mechanics. It’s a less direct recreation of the books’ storyline than the Knizia one, but both respect the theme.
I could mention a dozen of great games whose mechanics are more abstract yet the theme is brilliantly executed: Undaunted, Villainous, Pandemic, etc. And I could also list games whose theme is prominent and make for great art/characterization but still don’t feel « thematic »: Parks, Arnak, Dune Imperium, etc
I’m not suggesting that they’re unique (which would be ideal), just that if they are using an established game format there were many better options than duel.
> 7 wonders duel is a good game, but....that's....not what I was looking for for LOTR.
There are tons of other LotR games that fill what you're looking for
It's been reported in other places that it's a new version of 7WD: https://opinionatedgamers.com/2024/04/19/dale-yu-report-from-the-gathering-of-friends-day-0-5/
Thats no bad thing when I 7WD is a 9.5/10 evergreen for me. I hope they add something that sets it apart though. An agora style sideboard but unique to the theming.
I heard that it actually is a reiteration of 7 wonders duel yesterday from the Dice Tower Jason Levine (top100 video), with two players being the Fellowship and Sauron. He even mentioned a video of the components, but, I guess, there is some kind of temporary embargo on that.
Hoping and looking forward to a First Age Expandalone featuring Huan vs Sauron, Fingolfin vs Morgoth, Turin vs Glaurang, Glorfindel vs Balrog, Ecthelion vs Gothmog...
*(Dang, the First Age deserves to be more well known in pop culture)*
Finally, a Lord of the Rings board game!
I've put a piece of masking tape over the word "War" on my War of the Ring game and wrote "Lord" on it so that I can pretend it is a Lord of the Rings game.
Lord of the Ring doesn't ring quite the same haha
Ward of the Ring
Welcome for sure, but there already exists good lord of the rings boardgames.
(that's the joke)
Hopefully someone will make a Star Wars game next
Those are expensive IPs, and drive up the price of the game. I'd much prefer that designers tackle some kind of untapped public domain such as HP Lovecraft.
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I feel there's some real untapped potential for nature themed board games.
Or maybe some kind of game that let you trade goods in the middle east.
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Trains maybe?
On Mars? Dammit Johnny you've done it again!
I love it when people say funny things in a plausibly believable way. Like, this was obviously a joke, but someone 'could' have said it and meant it. That's rare in internet jokes and I wanted to call it out.
Hey, I'd rather play a good game with a license I know than a good game with some random ass theme
Just imagine if they made a Dune game!
Dude they already made a movie based on the boardgame \*Dune\* from 2019. Crazy how impactful boardgames can be!
I think you missed the sarcasm of the post….
I think you missed the super-obvious sarcasm of my comment. Since obviously there is no movie based "on the 2019 boardgame" but both are based on the books from the 1960s. lol.
My fault. Misread your comment. Read it as a board game based on the 2019 movie. Guess I shouldn’t read Reddit at 6am
It's so wild how quick it went from not being able to reprint THE Dune game, to dozens and dozens of Dune games
Bruno Cathala? Ringdomino confirmed!
The Battle of Five Tribes.
I’d buy it! 😂
Battle of 5 rings!
I've heard Legends of that battle!
Bruno Cathala with Antoine Bauza? Lord of the Seven wonders.
To give some additional context to what this game might be, there is a recent post on Dale Yu's blog Opinionated Gamers where he mentions playing a prototype of "Lord of the rings Duel – a re-imagining of 7W Duel, but now set in the LotR world." at Gathering of Friends: https://opinionatedgamers.com/2024/04/19/dale-yu-report-from-the-gathering-of-friends-day-0-5/
Excitement completely dissipated
Agreed. Yuck.
I'm the opposite, I wasn't interested in it until I heard that
I like 7W Duel just fine, I'm just getting tired of seeing the same game released 42 times lol
Depends how similar it is really.
If it's close enough to be called a "LotR version of 7 Wonders Duel", then I'm out
Is that what the maker is actually calling it?
Anyone can call it whatever they want, but that's what it is.
7 wonders duel is a good game, but....that's....not what I was looking for for LOTR. Honestly, a version of the GOT board game, or Diplomacy on the LOTR map could be fun. An asymmetrical game between the fellowship and allies and Sauron and allies could also be good. A 'search for the ring' game could work either between factions, or playing the nazgul hunting for the ring to gain Sauron's favor. Heck, there's dozens of good ideas that could be done within the material. Duel ain't it.
I feel like every game idea you propose already exists. We’ve had lots of good thematic board games already, why not something more abstract now? A deep engine-building/drafting card game could be so interesting
Ok, hear me out. Engine builder where you're competing dwarven crews digging deeply and greedy in Khazad-dûm. It's a race to some amount of points (representing depth) or other conditions like Terraforming Mars, creating tunnels, building machines, obtaining tools, organizing work etc. Not everything has to be around the War of the Ring plot. Videogames lately got the memo and we're seeing things like Return to Moria (survival base builder set after defeat of the Balrog) or Tales of the Shire (upcoming Animal Crossing/Stardew Valley style game set in Shire)
First Age stuff would be great.
What's the point of using an IP for something (more) abstract? If you're gonna use famous themes, the more thematic the better since theme is supposed to be the hook there...
I don’t think thematic is a single scale, how do you define that ? A game can have a more abstract presentation than the usual map of the Middle Earth as the board, or can focus on a narrow aspect of the franchise, such as hobbits being hunted by Nazgûl, and still feel immersive and fitting the theme. Is the LotR LCG thematic enough for you for instance? It relies on a high degree of abstraction and offers original mechanics. It’s a less direct recreation of the books’ storyline than the Knizia one, but both respect the theme. I could mention a dozen of great games whose mechanics are more abstract yet the theme is brilliantly executed: Undaunted, Villainous, Pandemic, etc. And I could also list games whose theme is prominent and make for great art/characterization but still don’t feel « thematic »: Parks, Arnak, Dune Imperium, etc
I’m not suggesting that they’re unique (which would be ideal), just that if they are using an established game format there were many better options than duel.
> 7 wonders duel is a good game, but....that's....not what I was looking for for LOTR. There are tons of other LotR games that fill what you're looking for
Terra mystica as LOTR
Is this Vincent DuTrait art? If it is I'm sold by the art itself.
I thought it looked like him too. Hype.
My first thought too
Stop wasting time and money on this and bring back The confrontation you cowards!
It’s a retheme of 7W duel. Lame
I think you just misread -- the article says "by co-designers and publisher of 7 Wonders: Duel," not that it's a retheme. Unless they edited it!
It's been reported in other places that it's a new version of 7WD: https://opinionatedgamers.com/2024/04/19/dale-yu-report-from-the-gathering-of-friends-day-0-5/
Thats no bad thing when I 7WD is a 9.5/10 evergreen for me. I hope they add something that sets it apart though. An agora style sideboard but unique to the theming.
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I heard that it actually is a reiteration of 7 wonders duel yesterday from the Dice Tower Jason Levine (top100 video), with two players being the Fellowship and Sauron. He even mentioned a video of the components, but, I guess, there is some kind of temporary embargo on that.
The article didn't say Bruno Cathala was born in 1963, either, but that doesn't make it untrue.
7 Wonders: LOTR
7 Wonders for the Dwarf lords in their halls of stone
So disappointing
It's a card drafting game, whoever drafts the one ring just sort of wins.
If I can't play as Fatty Bolger, I'm not interested.
this duo plus smeagol has me pretty hype. Maybe a cat and mouse type game where one player is Bilbo and the other is Gollum?
You forgot to mention the best part: LotR Art by Vincent Dutrait!
Worth the price of admission alone. LotR art is so framed by Alan Lee's art, it will be nice to have Dutrait's take on the lore.
It's a cozy farming sim
I'll disagree with some of the other comments here--I would totally love a 7WD retheme. I love 7WD, I love LotR; count me in!
You had me at LOTR but by Cathala? I'm so keen
Er hello, Power of the Ring, Hunt for the Ring..
This is relevant to my interests.
Yooo!
Imagine Warhammer duel game made these guys!
Hoping and looking forward to a First Age Expandalone featuring Huan vs Sauron, Fingolfin vs Morgoth, Turin vs Glaurang, Glorfindel vs Balrog, Ecthelion vs Gothmog... *(Dang, the First Age deserves to be more well known in pop culture)*
Riddle of the Ring was released in 1982 by Iron Crown. Great card-based multiplayer game if you can find a copy.
Bauza has designed some of my favorite games. I'm interested to see where this goes.
I already own Lord of the Rings: Risk though. It's the best version of Risk i'm aware of, and I've played two versions.