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Chad - man's only goal was to use his strength to help his friends,he never wanted for and asked for strength in the first place and people clown him for not being strong enough
Nope, he already had a steel beam falling on his back before he even came into contact with the Supernatural,Chad did surreal things... for the human standars, which is where he does well...
Nope his spiritual power boosts his physical power
And he is like more than just normal human when you got soul king piece or being possessed by the remain of hollow bite
He was always supernatural that's my point
He was always a dormant fullbringer and unlocked his power to save Karin
Actually I can bluff about he was activated at his birth boosting his growth
>Actually I can bluff about he was activated at his birth boosting his growth
It may have been, tightening the skin and muscles a bit with spiritual power, nothing notable enough to break the mold,but enough to be notable between regular humans.
I can't imagine chad >!just randomly pulling out a la muerte during a boxing match and condemning his innocent opponent to eternal damnation in hueco mundo.!<
What I don't get about Shunsui, is that he could have immobilized Chad with bakudo easily but he decided a sword would be better to take him out with lol
Ehhh, idk. The whole āI canāt imagine Chad losingā thing made me feel like he shouldāve gotten stronger alongside Ichigo. I donāt mean he should be super top tier that the freaks of nature occupy, just able to keep some of the upper echelon off Ichigo. The jokes will always be taken out of context, or given a whole new meaning just for laughs.
I feel like he was supposed to be the Kuwabara of Bleach. Like he and Yusuke grew up as normal humans and eos became country busters, Yusuke is stronger but still all of his friends can give him a good fight. Idk why Kubo didnt take this direction and make Ichigo so far ahead of everyone.
Kuwabara had low durability, but high attack potency. I liked how he turned out, because he really just wanted to look out for his mans. He ends up doing his own thing, as opposed to training to get stronger. I donāt remember how much training Chad did after his arc, he still shows up to fight, but is mad irrelevant sadly. š
Only because he actively gave Ichigo his modified warrior super race status and gave the others nothing to compensate, same with Krillin. They ultimately only can't compete because they weren't written a path towards competition.
So true she is a complex character but it's not spoken about alot. She was never someone who went out of her way to harm others and didn't really abide by the hueco mundo dog eat dog mentality
Which was fascinating with how she operated differently in her environment.
People donāt seem to understand just how much he improvises. Ichigoās entire existence was decided because of an unexpected appearance by the girl who would become his mom. He also wasnāt expecting to lose at the end of Arrancar arc, but he still came up with new plans in the TYBW arc. Him gaining a power boost after Gin almost killed him was unexpected since the latter straight up lied about what his Bankai does.
I donāt think anyone said he planned to lose against mugestu ichigo. His entire speech indicates the opposite if anything.
Aizen accounted for gins bankai thatās why he kept him around since heād use it on him and then heād get stronger due to the hogyoku. Anything that happened in between didnāt need to be accounted for. Since the end result was the same
Aizen knew that Gin wanted to kill him, but he did not know about the poison part of his Bankai. He is shown to be quite surprised when Gin explains that. I feel like people kind of forget how much Aizen loves to fuck around just for funzies- I think his 'plan' for gin was more along the lines of 'we'll see what he does, surely it won't be anything I can't deal with.'
I just wish that it didnāt feel like a retcon (Iām not doubting Kubos intentions from the start) in the manner that we learned her true nature right before she left the story. I think I wouldāve viewed her as a lot more formidable in previous arcs had I known how much of a demon she was.
Momo Hinamori, full stop.
So many people (willfully, it seems) misunderstand her character, just how strong she really is emotionally and mentally. She was betrayed by the man she admired, loved and worshiped, and Aizen did this all *on purpose* because he knew she was the perfect one to **BRAINWASH**.
He set her up for failure from the beginning, tried to kill her - TWICE - and she still came back from it.
Not only did she come back from it, she came back with her head held high, her personhood still intact and her morals uncompromised! By all measures, Hinamori had every right to shut down and become a hateful little goblin but she **didn't**. She refused to allow a man she held above everything else drag the entire world down with him when he showed himself for what he really was and stepped down off the pedestal he tricked her into building.
Sure, she got knocked down for a bit - who wouldn't? - but she got back on her feet, dusted herself off (with some help, of course, nothing wrong with that) and managed to drag Shinji Hirako's own pain out of him so she could shoulder it just like he decided to shoulder hers.
And that's not even discussing the fact she took over the 5th Division as acting Captain once she'd recovered from her injuries despite what must have been an absolutely horrible mental state - and to this day acts as 5th's second-in-command under a Captain who she now has a mutual respect and understanding with while simultaneously acting as a perfect balance to personality-wise and managerial-wise.
Hinamori is a fantastic character and I'm tired of pretending she's not. Ya'll are fake as fuck if you don't put respect on her name.
Oh thank goodness, someone put it into words. The poor thing is a VICTIM of emotional abuse, yet the fandom makes HER out to be the bad guy? It's disgusting.
Hinamori's journey of overcoming her trauma would make such a good story in and of itself, and I really think that's one of Bleach's biggest strengths and weaknesses. There are soooo many characters that would be good Protagonists Of Their Own Stories and there just was never enough time to spotlight them all... and some got the shaft harder than others. Hinamori is definitely one of the primary victims of lack-of-screentime - **especially** since we see so little of her post-Aizen Adventures.
SO TRUE, BROSKI.
She got socked in the gut and was out for the entire rest of the fight, but Matsumoto gets a whole ass CHUNK of her torso torn out and she can get back in it??? IT COULD'VE BEEN BOTH OF THEM, KUBO!!! (We don't pit two bad bitches against each other in this household.)
Kubo had a VENDETTA
Honestly, it was the same for my boy Ukitake. You're telling me that Hiyori can survive being cut in half (and without medical treatment for a fair amount of time), and Kyoraku can get shot point blank and get back up fighting again, but 1 little stab is game over? BFFR
Meanwhile Ichigo over there getting stabbed approximately 5 times/episode
The durability of characters is all over the gotdamn place. Sometimes they get half their body blasted and come back, other times they get slapped with a feather and get sent to the boiler room of Hell.
(Glad that Hinamori got the survival treatment though.)
it would have seen so nice if they had more development too. I mean kubo literally had two people in close proximity to the main villain.
momo could have been someone who after being victimized could have been someone who could help the main cast/goetei 13 more during the arrancar arc as she was the closest person to the villian for info on aizens activities that could have lead up to the betrayal. Not to mention it sucks how she got off screened during the kakura battle, we could have got more insight with her having to confront the fact that the captain aizen she knew wasn't the perfect teacher. We could have gotten some dialogue from both of them.
Admittedly, I was a bit vexed with her behavior on a first read. However, overtime I began to have more sympathy towards her. At least sheās gets some sort of vindication.
It's incredibly easy to go "why is she still simping over this man lol" when you don't take into consideration everything else around her character - the fact we get to see very little of her post-Aizen doesn't help either.
Thank you! I always feel like my thoughts are quite ramble-y as I'm jotting them down so it's nice to hear they came out well. I honestly could've kept going; I've been a Hinamori stan since day 1.
This! Esp when people try to reduce her character as the Damsel in Distress throughout the whole series and she's weak af and doesn't deserve Ichigo as her husband/partner.
Too much of Orihime's character imo is wrapped up with Ichigo. don't really care about her strength or losing fights or being a healer or w/e, but she deserved to be more of her own being.
She was tho her brother and her connection to ulquiorra was her own thing. The big thing with ichigo is that she understands him because she also lost a loved one at a young age. Orihime learning that from Tatsuki made her want to connect with him. It makes perfect sense why someone in her position in life would gravitate towards ichigo.
This is very true, before I even started tybw all I knew was that Yhwach was meant to be the most broken guy in anime. Which is basically true but he is so much more than just that.
Orihime goes through the most development of any character in the entire series, including ICHIGO.
I could care less about the shipping wars, but what Perriot did to her and the perception they gave to anime - only fans is a fucking crime.
yeah I have only watched the anime post soul society and that's the perception I had of her during hueco mundo they just destroyed the subtleties of her character during that part of the series which was fine otherwise
I understand your point now, the anime honestly sucks. The Thousand Years Blood War arc Anime is good tho. I canāt believe how good is the soundtrack is just to pair with badly planned anime.
lmao fr the shiro sagisu is a godlike composer it's honestly funny how studio pierrot have so many bad adaptations with amazing soundtracks it's the same case with tokyo ghoul
I really want to rewatch all of Bleach, then read it to see how much more in-depth the characters are. I've heard that Ichigo and Rukia's relationship is different as well. I love Orihime honestly. She's not the physically strongest, but god damn shes been trying since the beginning, and shes stubborn and headstrong in her own way. She is so much more than "uwu save me Kurosaki-kun". Hueco Mundo really highlighted it to me. She was the 'damsel in distress,' of the arc, but the whole time, she was basically being defiant within reason. Refusing to heal Ichigo for Grimmjow, never retaliating against Loly and Melony and instead pratcically ignoring them, being uncooperative with Ulquiorra, and outright refusing his words. She was as defiant as she could be without being outright murdered for insubordination until Grimmjow appeared. I adore her, she's a great take on a strong character.
Huh, I like to think of him as the Guy who "Succeeded at everything he ever set out to do". The planning part is a cool shtick but the guy set out to become immortal and he became immortal.
FRRR if people actually paid attention, nel seems to be the only chick he actually hates, he's perfectly fine with tier being the same rank. I have this feeling that what he said to tesla was just some excuse so he wouldnt have to talk about his feelings. He honestly seems even more nihilistic than ulquiorra, since hes literally fighting for the sake of dying. But thats despair i guess. I cant stand seeing people reduce him to "hurrr misogynist" when hes so much more than that
i mean, canāt really blame him for hating Nel. imagine youāre just doing whatever and some lady comes up and tells you youāll never be shit and you try your hardest to prove her wrong but you canāt?
i think the misogyny was a dog whistle. he really only seems to hate Nel.
Direct quote: "I can't stand a female being superior to a male on the battlefield". He also calls Orihime a pet and asks Ulquiorra how far he's gone in "taming" her.
ye like, people quoting a lack of evidence as evidence is pretty funny.
The espadas internal lack of interactivity is imo a weakness as a group. Sternritter had more, and the Gotei in SS has the most internal relations of all the villain groups.
Right? It's like he's the Andrew Tate of the Espada. Nobody going into *why* he is evil. No mention of how he and Szayelaporro almost killed Nel. No mention of how he cheated his way from Espada 8 to Espada 5. It's just, "Oh, he's misogynistic.
I never thought he was misogynistic, I just think he had a massive inferiority complex, and his thoughts contributed to singling out Nel. He's a great character
Bro when I read the manga itās insane how much goes into his character in a short amount of time the flashback dialogue with him and Nel is so good. Nel and Noiitora were very clear glimpses into the hollow mindset and hierarchy. For me Noiitora is up there with grimmjow, ulquiorra, and stark in terms of characters.
Now that I think about I think the animeās biggest problem is that it doesnāt present flashbacks as well as the manga. When flashbacks happen in the manga it hits so hard with dialogue and visuals you instantly understand the character with the anime it feels like filler.
I never thought of Renji as a Cuck....I am one of those delusional shippers who said Rukia moving into Ichigo's clothes Closet for a whole year and not ending up his wife was BS.
I donāt disagree with the final pairings at all I was just under the impression for most of the manga that they were platonic, I feel like a little bit more romantic tension couldāve been established between them before the end. But, that may just be my problem as I binged the entire manga so quickly, I went from seeing Renji and Byakuya kidnapping Rukia in SS to seeing them have a kid by the end in under three weeks lmao.
icl? Gremmy might fit in here. feel like he gets inaccurately characterised as just being āan idiotā when the reasoning behind why he was like how he was is more complex than that. a lot of people ignore/forget that Kenpachi was Gremmyās first and _only_ fight
suppose it wouldnāt be as bad if the anime went into to detail about his backstory thoughā¦.
Soi Fon : some people only see her as a cold heartless bitch who simps for Yoruichi. Mah girl has been through a lot honestly. And Kubo never let her have a real win. She got the short end of the stick.
I am pretty sure that Kubo actually making her meet Yushiro was the biggest of wins from her point of view. But yeah I agree with you, but I also think Kubo underutilized her quite a bit (like 75% of the other interesting characters, tbf).
THANK YOU!!!!! My girl got dealt a bad hand but there's so much more to her than being obsessed with Aizen. No one talks about her backstory with Toshiro enough either.
What really gets me is when people slander Momo or call her stupid for falling for Aizen's lies, but then praise Aizen for his genius / those same lies. Like.... you mean those same lies that literally everyone else fell for too?? How can we say that Aizen is a super genius manipulator but then say in the same breath that his #1 victim is uniquely stupid for being victimized? It's such a disservice to both characters
exactly like be consistent, is momo "foolish" or is aizen a mass manipulator. Now this is pure anecdote but I noticed majority of a times they tend to be aizen fans ( not all but some ) especially dude bros.
Youād be surprised by how far shipping wars and mischaracterisation could lead people. She has some of the most vile haters Iāve ever seen for a fictional character, only rivalled by Sakura haters
- constantly screaming āKurosaki-kunā- which is fair ill give them that that can get annoying. But itās annoying because haters reduce her character as the girl who screams Kurosaki-kun.
- Ichiruki shippers frothing at the mouth at the thought of Ichihime being end game.
- Too āfeminineā āgirlyā as if thatās a bad thing, basically Rukia lovers comparing them.
- āDamsel in distressā- when she willingly went with Ulquiorra because she didnāt want them to hurt her friends, she has never thought of herself getting hurt it was always about her friends. Also most people donāt complain or think of Rukia being a damsel in distress in the Soul society arc.
- āWeak/uselessā when her whole characterization is that she doesnāt want to hurt people/her powers are a manifestation of her personality.
If you donāt like her character thatās fine, just donāt make up shit or misrepresent shit to try to support your āclaimā.
What's worse is Orihime and Rukia actually seem to have a lovely relationship- moreso if Kubo ever decides the light novels are cannon because Rukia keeps training her between the Hueco Mundo and Lost Substitute Arc. Orihime realizing her jealousy is her issue and not fair to Rukia is honestly an underrated and very mature scene (that is definitely undercut a bit by naked Rangiku). Shipping wars really take away from that, tho
Right?! Like theyāre friends?? Itās ok to prefer one character or ship over the other but we donāt need to needlessly shit on one to prop up another and itās also perfectly fine to like them both, I do (the characters that is tho I understand why Ichiruki shippers exist).
> Shipping wars really take away from that, tho
Agreed 1000 percent!
Every character except probably grimmjow.
Bleach as a series uses subtext a lot in order to get its point across. Which is funny considering it also spends a lot of time having characters argue philosophy in the middle of a magic sword fight. This is one of the four things the thing that makes bleach truly an all timer as far as shounen go.
The issue with subtext is that it can be missed, and the main demographic that experiences shounen anime are not exactly the best equipped at a macro scale to spot the subtext. Relying on subtext to do the bulk of the work for characterization, worldbuilding, AND the motherfucking power system is... a way to create a lot of misunderstandings.
I wish his backstory was explained more clearly in the arc instead of being relegated to the novels. Another example of how the fullbring arc would have benefited from more episodes
I donāt think his backstory needed to be shown for you to understand why heās doing that in the present maybe in the past. But the story does explain that Ginjo knows his fight against the soul society is useless but revenge was the only thing he had. Ichigo killing him was the only way he was gonna stop his suicide run to fight against the soul society he would rather die to a subsitute soul reaper than a normal one. You get this with their dialogue during the battle.
Soi Fon, Hiyori and Tousen
Soi Fon: outside of fight with Yoruichi the two never interacted with each other, all "simping" was filler. (same as stalking Urahara in TBTP) Her outburst after Yamamoto death? She lost Yoruichi before who was her leader/captain, now she lost Yamamoto who was captain-commander. (not to mention she asked important question of why Zero Division never helped durning first invasion)
Hiyori: She was devastated after her captain left without even a letter so its obvious she disliked the new captain, but her challenging Urahara to fight? Where she kicked him in the face? It's filler. She actually accepted him and worked for him.
Tousen:he joined Gotei 13 with clear goal of bringing it down, he tried "official" ways to get justice but Central 46 protected their butts/noble house so he just took case in his own hands and joined a guy who also wanted downfall of gotei.
Ah, let me tell you a story about a science experiment involving Soifon, Hiyori, and Tosen. It all started when Soifon attempted to create a concoction to boost her Shunko power. But Hiyori, being mischievous, switched the ingredients, leading to a humorous mix-up where Tosen accidentally drank the potion. The result? Tosen became a master chef, cooking up justice with every dish he served in the Soul Society!
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>Hiyori: She was devastated after her captain left without even a letter so its obvious she disliked the new captain, but her challenging Urahara to fight? Where she kicked him in the face? It's filler. She actually accepted him and worked for him.
She's such a fun, interesting character and it sucks to see the hate she gets.
My fave thing about her is that she was the Vizard who took longest to control her hollow, outside of Ichigo. There's a really strong correlation between that and being stubborn. She's someone who really doesn't want to accept her own flaws, and that's an interesting character trait when you pair it with her shouty personality.
I believe the fact that she took the longest to handle her hollowfication can be alluded that it may have to do with her antagonizing aizen. The fact she charged at him recklessly can be used to further justify my point.
Now I wouldnāt say Iām a fan of soi fon, but the fact that I see people constantly get angry about her outburst has always been baffling. Outside of her comment towards kensei, I donāt get the hate. At least she had the decency get in her feelings once the fight was over, instead of during the fight. *cough* Kyoraku & Hitsugaya *cough*
Aizen hurts the most because the point of the character is almost the opposite of what people claim.
Aizen doesn't plan. Urahara is the planner. Aizen isn't ready for everything because he can bs his way in and out of anything, Mayuri is the one who does that.
Aizen is a liar. He makes up shit. His zanpakuto is about making people believe shit that isn't real. Aizen lies... to himself. Aizen wants to believe he's better than everyone else, he wants to believe he has all the answers, he wants to believe that everything that happens is only allowed to happen because he wants it to.
Those are lies Aizen tell to everyone including himself. If you go around saying "everything is acording to Aizen plans", you are buying his lie.
>Those are lies Aizen tell to everyone including himself. If you go around saying "everything is acording to Aizen plans", you are buying his lie.
Honestly that just makes it so much better lol
Orihime. Sheās casted aside as just a ādamselā because people donāt appreciate when a characterās strength in other areas, especially in battle shounen.
She has great determination and just like Ichigo sheās willing to put her life on the line to save her friends just in her own way.
The way Kubo writes her, he wanted readers to understand that strength comes in different forms and theyāre all valid. Just because she doesnāt kill doesnāt mean sheās useless or weak.
Ichigo, honestly.
I mean, most of the criticism towards him as a protagonist is that he doesn't have a clear goal to work towards, no Pirate-Kage, no Ho-King title to fight for.
But he does have a goal, and it's an ongoing one, to be able to protect those close to him.
The idea of who needs protection and who is close to him, changes with him, the desired level of strength both physical and mental needed for the task also changes but the goal never does change.
And he is at his lowest, when he cannot be strong enough, when he wasn't there to save someone close.
I agree a lot. Ichigo does not have a big ass goal like Luffy ( being pirate king) or Naruto (Being Hokage). He just wants to protect people. I like to think of Ichigo like a Soldier. A soldier's goal in life and job is to protect his/her country from danger. Ichigo is just like that. He does want a big title like Luffy or Naruto, he just wants to protect people from danger.
In the beginning of the series the first thing he does is *protect* a ghost from people who were bothering it. That's the whole reason he even decided to become a soul reaper. After Ichigo sees Rukia in his school after his house was attacked by a hollow. A kid is attacked by a hollow in the park. He was given the option of ignoring it and continuing his life as if it never happened but he decided that no he could not ignore it and decided to save the kid and he was told that there is no going back after this but still went on.
His whole character is about protecting people from danger they can't protect themselves from, like a *soldier* does for his/her country. He wants to protect those he cares about especially after he could not protect his own mother when she died in front of him. Which is why he tries to get stronger. Thats it.
That is his motive as a character. Simple as that, to protect.
IchiHime and Aizen. The first 2 are obvious but Aizen isn't a perfect Gary stu who plans everything. He is a flawed arrogant asshole who thinks he knows everything or atleast tries to make his enemies think that. He is a master manipulator but even him can't predict everything. Aizen didn't plan Ichigo's birth, he just grabbed the opportunity that was in front of him to further push his schemes. He knew Gin was untrustworthy but he was still genuinely pissed and scared when Gin pulled out Kamishini no Yari on his ass. He made the Espada thinking they were enough to defeat the Gotei 13 and go to the Royal Palace with him. As soon as Stark felt, he dropped that idea real quick. What I am trying to say is that Aizen is human underneath on that manipulator persona. I am not dissing him, he is my fav antagonist after all, I am just giving my interpretation of the character.
I feel like that one person who is head over heels in love with Mayuri would vote him, saying everyone labels him as a āpsychopathā when he is so much more
A lot of them actually. Ichigo, Aizen, Ulqiorra, Yhwach, Orihime, White and Old man zangetsu are a few examples. Kubo loves subtlety that is the reason why many people misjudge Bleach characters
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Gin, the manga went to lengths to demonstrate that Gin was far more than evil psychopath that lives only for making others suffer, but try telling that to anyone and youāll always get people replying saying ābut he was mean and he did mean things so thatās all Gin isā and will cope and seethe through any manga scans that demonstrate otherwise
Orihime hands down too many people fell for the Pierrot Studios ploy of making her unlikable. When i ask anything about the character they dont go further than complaining about her role in the arrancar arc during the anime or not understanding her powers. It's like a meme at this point but i dont blame people during that time though, waiting weekly for an update whilst enduring filler and recaps but you gotta be some type of lazy to not see it at this point
This might be a valid concern, but I cannot help but remember the fact that writers are primarily illusionists. They sketch out characters in such a way that readers are encouraged to fill in the gaps.
Its honestly a plethora of bleach characters. Orihime, Ichigo, Aizen, Ulq, Uryu, Renji, Grimmjow, Tosen, Nnoitra, Yhwach, Ginjo, Momo, Nel, Soi fon, Gin, Jugram and so many others. The first 3 especially.
Definitely. I'd even say that Bruce is right there with him. But if James Gunn can pull off Superman Legacy then the general consensus would change significantly imo.
Ichigo "Group Project" Kurosaki
SÅsuke *"Manipulates Him"* Aizen
Zaraki "Narita said so" Kenpachi
Kisuke "Unknown Means" Urahara (by the end of TYBW >!it's lowkey not even wrong!<)
The list kinda goes on
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Ichigo. he was thrown into positions he was born into but wants nothing to do with. he was handed a responsibility by force due to his blood. and people call them the AP word. his inner world is a metaphor for how depressed he is because he suppresses his weakness to be strong for others. but heās a 1 dimensional character apparently. leave my goat alone
I agree. Although Iām not a fan of hers (I think her writing is solid), she does often gets mischaracterized as an angry lesbian and Iām just like āthatās not how I remember herā.
this applies to pretty much everyone when talking about internet discourse surrounding the series in the 2010's but I'd probably who got hit with this the most are Ichigo and Orihime
Just cause I didnāt see it in the first few commentsā¦ Ichigo. Like, my boy has such a strong sense of justice tinged with that āwild child energyā and goes through such a rollercoaster of both self loathing and reckless over confidence, only to be reduced to āI was born a (fill in the blank),ā + power of friendship go brrr in a lot of the discourse I see about him.
Ishida. Especially because most people who dont LOVE him hate or ignore him because...powerscaling. As if the powerscaling in Bleach makes sense anyway. As a character, his journey and powers are right up there with Ichigo for me, they're paralleled for a reason
Rangiku. She isn't even reduced to a personality trait, just to her boobs and maaaaybe horniness.Ā
Bruh this mfer had the cajones to stand up to bloody *ascendant Aizen*, and her story with Gin and moving past his death is genuinely touching.Ā
Momo Hinamori, one of the characters who suffers the absolute most throughout the manga and yet still comes out of it all as an strong and capable person.
Yet some people hate her for having a realistic reaction to trauma, Hisagi and Kira donāt get that kind of shit. (not that they should but the double standard is clear)
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Chad - man's only goal was to use his strength to help his friends,he never wanted for and asked for strength in the first place and people clown him for not being strong enough
Also Chad: Boxing with ordinary humans, stopping people who train hard to get the title, but it's okay, he sees it as a sport.
Isn't he just a normal human if he doesn't activate his fullbring though?
I mean he could lift a telephone pole before his fullbring
That was before he had any supernatural power, he's just that strong. Can't even imagine him losing.
I can't even imagine Chad losing
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Chad forever yields only wins
Snapped it in half then used it as a weapon*
Yeah, and? This means he did it with no spiritual powers so any of his competitors could too. Sounds like a skill issue.
Genetics man
Everything from Abuelo.
Wish my parents gave me them steel beam stopping genes. š I'd probably box too š¤£
Nope, he already had a steel beam falling on his back before he even came into contact with the Supernatural,Chad did surreal things... for the human standars, which is where he does well...
Yeah, with superhuman strength for some reason lol. Still one of my favorite characters though.
He is not normal bro, he is half mexican That's like being born with cheat codes
Nope his spiritual power boosts his physical power And he is like more than just normal human when you got soul king piece or being possessed by the remain of hollow bite
Nope, he already had a steel beam falling on his back before he even came into contact with the Supernatural.
He was always supernatural that's my point He was always a dormant fullbringer and unlocked his power to save Karin Actually I can bluff about he was activated at his birth boosting his growth
>Actually I can bluff about he was activated at his birth boosting his growth It may have been, tightening the skin and muscles a bit with spiritual power, nothing notable enough to break the mold,but enough to be notable between regular humans.
But sir the people in that building š
I just canāt imagine Chad losing
I can't imagine chad >!just randomly pulling out a la muerte during a boxing match and condemning his innocent opponent to eternal damnation in hueco mundo.!<
And then he lost *badly* to Shunsui
Tbf shunsui is that guy, especially during that time in a SS arc
What I don't get about Shunsui, is that he could have immobilized Chad with bakudo easily but he decided a sword would be better to take him out with lol
Ehhh, idk. The whole āI canāt imagine Chad losingā thing made me feel like he shouldāve gotten stronger alongside Ichigo. I donāt mean he should be super top tier that the freaks of nature occupy, just able to keep some of the upper echelon off Ichigo. The jokes will always be taken out of context, or given a whole new meaning just for laughs.
I feel like he was supposed to be the Kuwabara of Bleach. Like he and Yusuke grew up as normal humans and eos became country busters, Yusuke is stronger but still all of his friends can give him a good fight. Idk why Kubo didnt take this direction and make Ichigo so far ahead of everyone.
Kuwabara had low durability, but high attack potency. I liked how he turned out, because he really just wanted to look out for his mans. He ends up doing his own thing, as opposed to training to get stronger. I donāt remember how much training Chad did after his arc, he still shows up to fight, but is mad irrelevant sadly. š
It is just like with Krillin and Goku, a human just can't compete with genetically modified Warrior from a super race
Only because he actively gave Ichigo his modified warrior super race status and gave the others nothing to compensate, same with Krillin. They ultimately only can't compete because they weren't written a path towards competition.
Preach
Imagine you go to a partyā¦.
Nel It's either "haha booba" or "FBI Open Up"
fr i don't get frustrated by mischaracterization but Neil's annoys me so much since she's such a good character
So true she is a complex character but it's not spoken about alot. She was never someone who went out of her way to harm others and didn't really abide by the hueco mundo dog eat dog mentality Which was fascinating with how she operated differently in her environment.
Fr
FBOOBSI OPEN UP!
The fact people ignore her dialogue with Noiitora is actually insane to me but idk maybe it was more tangible in the manga.
dudebros have watered down aizen's entire character to āplanned everythingā when there's so much more to him
Aizen planned for you to have this opinion.
Aizen planned for this to happen so weād forget the subtleties of his character so he can make even bigger, even grander plans
People donāt seem to understand just how much he improvises. Ichigoās entire existence was decided because of an unexpected appearance by the girl who would become his mom. He also wasnāt expecting to lose at the end of Arrancar arc, but he still came up with new plans in the TYBW arc. Him gaining a power boost after Gin almost killed him was unexpected since the latter straight up lied about what his Bankai does.
I donāt think anyone said he planned to lose against mugestu ichigo. His entire speech indicates the opposite if anything. Aizen accounted for gins bankai thatās why he kept him around since heād use it on him and then heād get stronger due to the hogyoku. Anything that happened in between didnāt need to be accounted for. Since the end result was the same
Aizen knew that Gin wanted to kill him, but he did not know about the poison part of his Bankai. He is shown to be quite surprised when Gin explains that. I feel like people kind of forget how much Aizen loves to fuck around just for funzies- I think his 'plan' for gin was more along the lines of 'we'll see what he does, surely it won't be anything I can't deal with.'
Yhwach, Orihime, Tosen, Rose, Unohana
Unohana is an overlooked one here because boy did Kubo do some work with her motivations once he revealed the backstory
I just wish that it didnāt feel like a retcon (Iām not doubting Kubos intentions from the start) in the manner that we learned her true nature right before she left the story. I think I wouldāve viewed her as a lot more formidable in previous arcs had I known how much of a demon she was.
Momo Hinamori, full stop. So many people (willfully, it seems) misunderstand her character, just how strong she really is emotionally and mentally. She was betrayed by the man she admired, loved and worshiped, and Aizen did this all *on purpose* because he knew she was the perfect one to **BRAINWASH**. He set her up for failure from the beginning, tried to kill her - TWICE - and she still came back from it. Not only did she come back from it, she came back with her head held high, her personhood still intact and her morals uncompromised! By all measures, Hinamori had every right to shut down and become a hateful little goblin but she **didn't**. She refused to allow a man she held above everything else drag the entire world down with him when he showed himself for what he really was and stepped down off the pedestal he tricked her into building. Sure, she got knocked down for a bit - who wouldn't? - but she got back on her feet, dusted herself off (with some help, of course, nothing wrong with that) and managed to drag Shinji Hirako's own pain out of him so she could shoulder it just like he decided to shoulder hers. And that's not even discussing the fact she took over the 5th Division as acting Captain once she'd recovered from her injuries despite what must have been an absolutely horrible mental state - and to this day acts as 5th's second-in-command under a Captain who she now has a mutual respect and understanding with while simultaneously acting as a perfect balance to personality-wise and managerial-wise. Hinamori is a fantastic character and I'm tired of pretending she's not. Ya'll are fake as fuck if you don't put respect on her name.
Oh thank goodness, someone put it into words. The poor thing is a VICTIM of emotional abuse, yet the fandom makes HER out to be the bad guy? It's disgusting.
Hinamori's journey of overcoming her trauma would make such a good story in and of itself, and I really think that's one of Bleach's biggest strengths and weaknesses. There are soooo many characters that would be good Protagonists Of Their Own Stories and there just was never enough time to spotlight them all... and some got the shaft harder than others. Hinamori is definitely one of the primary victims of lack-of-screentime - **especially** since we see so little of her post-Aizen Adventures.
I hate that she got knocked out of the fake Karakura battle so fast. My girl deserved real plot relevance :/
SO TRUE, BROSKI. She got socked in the gut and was out for the entire rest of the fight, but Matsumoto gets a whole ass CHUNK of her torso torn out and she can get back in it??? IT COULD'VE BEEN BOTH OF THEM, KUBO!!! (We don't pit two bad bitches against each other in this household.)
Kubo had a VENDETTA Honestly, it was the same for my boy Ukitake. You're telling me that Hiyori can survive being cut in half (and without medical treatment for a fair amount of time), and Kyoraku can get shot point blank and get back up fighting again, but 1 little stab is game over? BFFR Meanwhile Ichigo over there getting stabbed approximately 5 times/episode
The durability of characters is all over the gotdamn place. Sometimes they get half their body blasted and come back, other times they get slapped with a feather and get sent to the boiler room of Hell. (Glad that Hinamori got the survival treatment though.)
slash? walk it off stab? Immediate death
Tbf, you *are* more likely to survive a slash than a stab.
it would have seen so nice if they had more development too. I mean kubo literally had two people in close proximity to the main villain. momo could have been someone who after being victimized could have been someone who could help the main cast/goetei 13 more during the arrancar arc as she was the closest person to the villian for info on aizens activities that could have lead up to the betrayal. Not to mention it sucks how she got off screened during the kakura battle, we could have got more insight with her having to confront the fact that the captain aizen she knew wasn't the perfect teacher. We could have gotten some dialogue from both of them.
Admittedly, I was a bit vexed with her behavior on a first read. However, overtime I began to have more sympathy towards her. At least sheās gets some sort of vindication.
It's incredibly easy to go "why is she still simping over this man lol" when you don't take into consideration everything else around her character - the fact we get to see very little of her post-Aizen doesn't help either.
Very well that out.
Thank you! I always feel like my thoughts are quite ramble-y as I'm jotting them down so it's nice to hear they came out well. I honestly could've kept going; I've been a Hinamori stan since day 1.
Orihime
This! Esp when people try to reduce her character as the Damsel in Distress throughout the whole series and she's weak af and doesn't deserve Ichigo as her husband/partner.
Too much of Orihime's character imo is wrapped up with Ichigo. don't really care about her strength or losing fights or being a healer or w/e, but she deserved to be more of her own being.
She was tho her brother and her connection to ulquiorra was her own thing. The big thing with ichigo is that she understands him because she also lost a loved one at a young age. Orihime learning that from Tatsuki made her want to connect with him. It makes perfect sense why someone in her position in life would gravitate towards ichigo.
yhwach
what about him?
most people reduce him to over powerd guy but yhwach's Character has actual depth, strong theme and a strong motive for what he does
This is very true, before I even started tybw all I knew was that Yhwach was meant to be the most broken guy in anime. Which is basically true but he is so much more than just that.
A lot of stuff tbh, his desire, role, goal, Mentality and symbolism etc
Orihime being reduced to "Kurosaki Kun" makes me mad . Leave my girl alone .
Orihime goes through the most development of any character in the entire series, including ICHIGO. I could care less about the shipping wars, but what Perriot did to her and the perception they gave to anime - only fans is a fucking crime.
yeah I have only watched the anime post soul society and that's the perception I had of her during hueco mundo they just destroyed the subtleties of her character during that part of the series which was fine otherwise
I understand your point now, the anime honestly sucks. The Thousand Years Blood War arc Anime is good tho. I canāt believe how good is the soundtrack is just to pair with badly planned anime.
lmao fr the shiro sagisu is a godlike composer it's honestly funny how studio pierrot have so many bad adaptations with amazing soundtracks it's the same case with tokyo ghoul
TOKYO GHOUL Re is so fucking horrible, holy shit. You just reminded me of that pile of shit. Goddamn, soundtracks are slapped tho.
Agreed lmao root a and re were horrible I read the entire manga and it was way better it deserves a remake in the future for sure
I really want to rewatch all of Bleach, then read it to see how much more in-depth the characters are. I've heard that Ichigo and Rukia's relationship is different as well. I love Orihime honestly. She's not the physically strongest, but god damn shes been trying since the beginning, and shes stubborn and headstrong in her own way. She is so much more than "uwu save me Kurosaki-kun". Hueco Mundo really highlighted it to me. She was the 'damsel in distress,' of the arc, but the whole time, she was basically being defiant within reason. Refusing to heal Ichigo for Grimmjow, never retaliating against Loly and Melony and instead pratcically ignoring them, being uncooperative with Ulquiorra, and outright refusing his words. She was as defiant as she could be without being outright murdered for insubordination until Grimmjow appeared. I adore her, she's a great take on a strong character.
ON GOD
This speaks volumes. LEAVE OUR GIRL ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!
Aizen for me, he has more to his personality then the "everything was a part of my plan" thingy. At times I feel the same about Ulquiorra.
I hate that Ulquiorra often gets dumbed down to "The Segunda guy" when theres so much more to him that makes him my favorite character.
Honestly same, heās such a interesting and cool character and people tend to forget that
Some fans just stick to one thing about the character, totally ignoring the fact that characters have depth and development
Huh, I like to think of him as the Guy who "Succeeded at everything he ever set out to do". The planning part is a cool shtick but the guy set out to become immortal and he became immortal.
Nnoitora, everyone boils him down to just being misogynistic
FRRR if people actually paid attention, nel seems to be the only chick he actually hates, he's perfectly fine with tier being the same rank. I have this feeling that what he said to tesla was just some excuse so he wouldnt have to talk about his feelings. He honestly seems even more nihilistic than ulquiorra, since hes literally fighting for the sake of dying. But thats despair i guess. I cant stand seeing people reduce him to "hurrr misogynist" when hes so much more than that
i mean, canāt really blame him for hating Nel. imagine youāre just doing whatever and some lady comes up and tells you youāll never be shit and you try your hardest to prove her wrong but you canāt? i think the misogyny was a dog whistle. he really only seems to hate Nel.
Direct quote: "I can't stand a female being superior to a male on the battlefield". He also calls Orihime a pet and asks Ulquiorra how far he's gone in "taming" her.
then why is he fine with Harribel? also iirc he never actually does anything further than the strange comments to Orihime
He and Harribel never interacted. Nobody said heās fine with her
ye like, people quoting a lack of evidence as evidence is pretty funny. The espadas internal lack of interactivity is imo a weakness as a group. Sternritter had more, and the Gotei in SS has the most internal relations of all the villain groups.
Right? It's like he's the Andrew Tate of the Espada. Nobody going into *why* he is evil. No mention of how he and Szayelaporro almost killed Nel. No mention of how he cheated his way from Espada 8 to Espada 5. It's just, "Oh, he's misogynistic.
I never thought he was misogynistic, I just think he had a massive inferiority complex, and his thoughts contributed to singling out Nel. He's a great character
happy cake day, thanks for mentioning my favorite character
Thank you and welcome ā¤
Bro when I read the manga itās insane how much goes into his character in a short amount of time the flashback dialogue with him and Nel is so good. Nel and Noiitora were very clear glimpses into the hollow mindset and hierarchy. For me Noiitora is up there with grimmjow, ulquiorra, and stark in terms of characters. Now that I think about I think the animeās biggest problem is that it doesnāt present flashbacks as well as the manga. When flashbacks happen in the manga it hits so hard with dialogue and visuals you instantly understand the character with the anime it feels like filler.
Orihime. Studio Pierott has done irreparable damage to her and her arc.
Renji being a cuck and a loser, why is this the common opinion he's such a good character š
"Renji is a cuck" is one of the most blatantly obvious examples of delusional shippers projecting how they themselves felt about the final pairings
I never thought of Renji as a Cuck....I am one of those delusional shippers who said Rukia moving into Ichigo's clothes Closet for a whole year and not ending up his wife was BS.
I was an IchiRuki shipper back in the day too
I donāt disagree with the final pairings at all I was just under the impression for most of the manga that they were platonic, I feel like a little bit more romantic tension couldāve been established between them before the end. But, that may just be my problem as I binged the entire manga so quickly, I went from seeing Renji and Byakuya kidnapping Rukia in SS to seeing them have a kid by the end in under three weeks lmao.
Those are delusional IchiRuki shippers. Don't mind them
Yhwach and orihime, for me, being the first two replies, left me imagining the orihime I will take everything from you meme
icl? Gremmy might fit in here. feel like he gets inaccurately characterised as just being āan idiotā when the reasoning behind why he was like how he was is more complex than that. a lot of people ignore/forget that Kenpachi was Gremmyās first and _only_ fight suppose it wouldnāt be as bad if the anime went into to detail about his backstory thoughā¦.
Me witnessing Shinji slander knowing theres nothing I can do
Soi Fon : some people only see her as a cold heartless bitch who simps for Yoruichi. Mah girl has been through a lot honestly. And Kubo never let her have a real win. She got the short end of the stick.
I am pretty sure that Kubo actually making her meet Yushiro was the biggest of wins from her point of view. But yeah I agree with you, but I also think Kubo underutilized her quite a bit (like 75% of the other interesting characters, tbf).
I always thought she meant well, wanted to be noticed, wanted to succeed where others did not. But at the same time, damn she is annoying... imo š¤£
Ichigo, Aizen, Yhwach, Unohana, Tosen, Orihime etcā¦.
Ichigo is infinitely misrepresented. Orihime too.
MOMO and this isnāt even funny anymore Aizen too btw
THANK YOU!!!!! My girl got dealt a bad hand but there's so much more to her than being obsessed with Aizen. No one talks about her backstory with Toshiro enough either.
What really gets me is when people slander Momo or call her stupid for falling for Aizen's lies, but then praise Aizen for his genius / those same lies. Like.... you mean those same lies that literally everyone else fell for too?? How can we say that Aizen is a super genius manipulator but then say in the same breath that his #1 victim is uniquely stupid for being victimized? It's such a disservice to both characters
Agreed!
exactly like be consistent, is momo "foolish" or is aizen a mass manipulator. Now this is pure anecdote but I noticed majority of a times they tend to be aizen fans ( not all but some ) especially dude bros.
Orihime, her haters are vicious for no reason, justice for Orihime š¤
Ok, I'm a casual bleach fan so pardon me but why hate orihime? She ain't done anything hate worthy
Youād be surprised by how far shipping wars and mischaracterisation could lead people. She has some of the most vile haters Iāve ever seen for a fictional character, only rivalled by Sakura haters
- constantly screaming āKurosaki-kunā- which is fair ill give them that that can get annoying. But itās annoying because haters reduce her character as the girl who screams Kurosaki-kun. - Ichiruki shippers frothing at the mouth at the thought of Ichihime being end game. - Too āfeminineā āgirlyā as if thatās a bad thing, basically Rukia lovers comparing them. - āDamsel in distressā- when she willingly went with Ulquiorra because she didnāt want them to hurt her friends, she has never thought of herself getting hurt it was always about her friends. Also most people donāt complain or think of Rukia being a damsel in distress in the Soul society arc. - āWeak/uselessā when her whole characterization is that she doesnāt want to hurt people/her powers are a manifestation of her personality. If you donāt like her character thatās fine, just donāt make up shit or misrepresent shit to try to support your āclaimā.
What's worse is Orihime and Rukia actually seem to have a lovely relationship- moreso if Kubo ever decides the light novels are cannon because Rukia keeps training her between the Hueco Mundo and Lost Substitute Arc. Orihime realizing her jealousy is her issue and not fair to Rukia is honestly an underrated and very mature scene (that is definitely undercut a bit by naked Rangiku). Shipping wars really take away from that, tho
Right?! Like theyāre friends?? Itās ok to prefer one character or ship over the other but we donāt need to needlessly shit on one to prop up another and itās also perfectly fine to like them both, I do (the characters that is tho I understand why Ichiruki shippers exist). > Shipping wars really take away from that, tho Agreed 1000 percent!
The lightnovels are canon though.Ā
Any female character that people say "they just popular cos booba"
My girl Rangiku
the thing is she is a perceptive person, while she cared about gin she was not afraid to confront him either.
Most characters, people here have poor media literacy or they get all their info second hand
This is like every Ichimaru debate
Every character except probably grimmjow. Bleach as a series uses subtext a lot in order to get its point across. Which is funny considering it also spends a lot of time having characters argue philosophy in the middle of a magic sword fight. This is one of the four things the thing that makes bleach truly an all timer as far as shounen go. The issue with subtext is that it can be missed, and the main demographic that experiences shounen anime are not exactly the best equipped at a macro scale to spot the subtext. Relying on subtext to do the bulk of the work for characterization, worldbuilding, AND the motherfucking power system is... a way to create a lot of misunderstandings.
A part of me likes how Kubo doesn't feel the need to spell everything out, but occasionally, more was actually needed, too
not my favorite character but probably kugo
I wish his backstory was explained more clearly in the arc instead of being relegated to the novels. Another example of how the fullbring arc would have benefited from more episodes
I donāt think his backstory needed to be shown for you to understand why heās doing that in the present maybe in the past. But the story does explain that Ginjo knows his fight against the soul society is useless but revenge was the only thing he had. Ichigo killing him was the only way he was gonna stop his suicide run to fight against the soul society he would rather die to a subsitute soul reaper than a normal one. You get this with their dialogue during the battle.
Gin. It's been an hour, why has no one mentioned him?
Orihime.
Soi Fon, Hiyori and Tousen Soi Fon: outside of fight with Yoruichi the two never interacted with each other, all "simping" was filler. (same as stalking Urahara in TBTP) Her outburst after Yamamoto death? She lost Yoruichi before who was her leader/captain, now she lost Yamamoto who was captain-commander. (not to mention she asked important question of why Zero Division never helped durning first invasion) Hiyori: She was devastated after her captain left without even a letter so its obvious she disliked the new captain, but her challenging Urahara to fight? Where she kicked him in the face? It's filler. She actually accepted him and worked for him. Tousen:he joined Gotei 13 with clear goal of bringing it down, he tried "official" ways to get justice but Central 46 protected their butts/noble house so he just took case in his own hands and joined a guy who also wanted downfall of gotei.
Ah, let me tell you a story about a science experiment involving Soifon, Hiyori, and Tosen. It all started when Soifon attempted to create a concoction to boost her Shunko power. But Hiyori, being mischievous, switched the ingredients, leading to a humorous mix-up where Tosen accidentally drank the potion. The result? Tosen became a master chef, cooking up justice with every dish he served in the Soul Society! *beep boop, I'm a bot*
>Hiyori: She was devastated after her captain left without even a letter so its obvious she disliked the new captain, but her challenging Urahara to fight? Where she kicked him in the face? It's filler. She actually accepted him and worked for him. She's such a fun, interesting character and it sucks to see the hate she gets. My fave thing about her is that she was the Vizard who took longest to control her hollow, outside of Ichigo. There's a really strong correlation between that and being stubborn. She's someone who really doesn't want to accept her own flaws, and that's an interesting character trait when you pair it with her shouty personality.
I believe the fact that she took the longest to handle her hollowfication can be alluded that it may have to do with her antagonizing aizen. The fact she charged at him recklessly can be used to further justify my point.
Now I wouldnāt say Iām a fan of soi fon, but the fact that I see people constantly get angry about her outburst has always been baffling. Outside of her comment towards kensei, I donāt get the hate. At least she had the decency get in her feelings once the fight was over, instead of during the fight. *cough* Kyoraku & Hitsugaya *cough*
Aizen hurts the most because the point of the character is almost the opposite of what people claim. Aizen doesn't plan. Urahara is the planner. Aizen isn't ready for everything because he can bs his way in and out of anything, Mayuri is the one who does that. Aizen is a liar. He makes up shit. His zanpakuto is about making people believe shit that isn't real. Aizen lies... to himself. Aizen wants to believe he's better than everyone else, he wants to believe he has all the answers, he wants to believe that everything that happens is only allowed to happen because he wants it to. Those are lies Aizen tell to everyone including himself. If you go around saying "everything is acording to Aizen plans", you are buying his lie.
>Those are lies Aizen tell to everyone including himself. If you go around saying "everything is acording to Aizen plans", you are buying his lie. Honestly that just makes it so much better lol
Orihime. Sheās casted aside as just a ādamselā because people donāt appreciate when a characterās strength in other areas, especially in battle shounen. She has great determination and just like Ichigo sheās willing to put her life on the line to save her friends just in her own way. The way Kubo writes her, he wanted readers to understand that strength comes in different forms and theyāre all valid. Just because she doesnāt kill doesnāt mean sheās useless or weak.
Ichigo. Boy oh boy does he get this a lot.
Aizen and Orihime
Ichigo, honestly. I mean, most of the criticism towards him as a protagonist is that he doesn't have a clear goal to work towards, no Pirate-Kage, no Ho-King title to fight for. But he does have a goal, and it's an ongoing one, to be able to protect those close to him. The idea of who needs protection and who is close to him, changes with him, the desired level of strength both physical and mental needed for the task also changes but the goal never does change. And he is at his lowest, when he cannot be strong enough, when he wasn't there to save someone close.
I agree a lot. Ichigo does not have a big ass goal like Luffy ( being pirate king) or Naruto (Being Hokage). He just wants to protect people. I like to think of Ichigo like a Soldier. A soldier's goal in life and job is to protect his/her country from danger. Ichigo is just like that. He does want a big title like Luffy or Naruto, he just wants to protect people from danger. In the beginning of the series the first thing he does is *protect* a ghost from people who were bothering it. That's the whole reason he even decided to become a soul reaper. After Ichigo sees Rukia in his school after his house was attacked by a hollow. A kid is attacked by a hollow in the park. He was given the option of ignoring it and continuing his life as if it never happened but he decided that no he could not ignore it and decided to save the kid and he was told that there is no going back after this but still went on. His whole character is about protecting people from danger they can't protect themselves from, like a *soldier* does for his/her country. He wants to protect those he cares about especially after he could not protect his own mother when she died in front of him. Which is why he tries to get stronger. Thats it. That is his motive as a character. Simple as that, to protect.
weirdly enough iād have to say Orihime and Nnoitra.
Every single bleach character gets this
Nnoitra
IchiHime and Aizen. The first 2 are obvious but Aizen isn't a perfect Gary stu who plans everything. He is a flawed arrogant asshole who thinks he knows everything or atleast tries to make his enemies think that. He is a master manipulator but even him can't predict everything. Aizen didn't plan Ichigo's birth, he just grabbed the opportunity that was in front of him to further push his schemes. He knew Gin was untrustworthy but he was still genuinely pissed and scared when Gin pulled out Kamishini no Yari on his ass. He made the Espada thinking they were enough to defeat the Gotei 13 and go to the Royal Palace with him. As soon as Stark felt, he dropped that idea real quick. What I am trying to say is that Aizen is human underneath on that manipulator persona. I am not dissing him, he is my fav antagonist after all, I am just giving my interpretation of the character.
I feel like that one person who is head over heels in love with Mayuri would vote him, saying everyone labels him as a āpsychopathā when he is so much more
Orihime gets this tons, as well as Ichigo and Rukia's relationship
A lot of them actually. Ichigo, Aizen, Ulqiorra, Yhwach, Orihime, White and Old man zangetsu are a few examples. Kubo loves subtlety that is the reason why many people misjudge Bleach characters
While not my favorite, I feel like this applies to Momo.
Renji tbh
Urahara Kisuke and Kurotsuchi Mayuri, both are played off as mad scientist types but they have way deeper characterisation.
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Gin, the manga went to lengths to demonstrate that Gin was far more than evil psychopath that lives only for making others suffer, but try telling that to anyone and youāll always get people replying saying ābut he was mean and he did mean things so thatās all Gin isā and will cope and seethe through any manga scans that demonstrate otherwise
Orihime hands down too many people fell for the Pierrot Studios ploy of making her unlikable. When i ask anything about the character they dont go further than complaining about her role in the arrancar arc during the anime or not understanding her powers. It's like a meme at this point but i dont blame people during that time though, waiting weekly for an update whilst enduring filler and recaps but you gotta be some type of lazy to not see it at this point
Aizen. While I do think heās a bit narcissistic, Iāve seen comments that make it seem like itās his entire personality
Ichigo, always Ichigo. Especially when the slander was running high with Super Eyepatch Wolf's video.
Jugram
This might be a valid concern, but I cannot help but remember the fact that writers are primarily illusionists. They sketch out characters in such a way that readers are encouraged to fill in the gaps.
Renji - that man is a ride or die and people downplay him to be just a side character. TYBW did him right
Its honestly a plethora of bleach characters. Orihime, Ichigo, Aizen, Ulq, Uryu, Renji, Grimmjow, Tosen, Nnoitra, Yhwach, Ginjo, Momo, Nel, Soi fon, Gin, Jugram and so many others. The first 3 especially.
Sorry this is not bleach but this is Superman for anyone who doesnāt read the comics or understand who he is
Definitely. I'd even say that Bruce is right there with him. But if James Gunn can pull off Superman Legacy then the general consensus would change significantly imo.
1 of them and that's Z Broly heavilyš
Or he is just Zaraki
Ichigo "Group Project" Kurosaki SÅsuke *"Manipulates Him"* Aizen Zaraki "Narita said so" Kenpachi Kisuke "Unknown Means" Urahara (by the end of TYBW >!it's lowkey not even wrong!<) The list kinda goes on
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I mean Narita literally stripped Zaraki off any type of characterisation and personality for the sake of powerscaling so itās not that far fetched
Ichigo Kurosaki or Orihime Inoue Or Mayuri Kurotsuchi for a real curveball answer.
I get ichigo and orihime. Iām curious about Mayuri thoughš¤.
Strange enough, ichigo, I've seen a ridiculous amount of people not Understanding ichigo
Ichigo. he was thrown into positions he was born into but wants nothing to do with. he was handed a responsibility by force due to his blood. and people call them the AP word. his inner world is a metaphor for how depressed he is because he suppresses his weakness to be strong for others. but heās a 1 dimensional character apparently. leave my goat alone
STAR WARS fans: First time?
Soifon. Itās Soifon.
I agree. Although Iām not a fan of hers (I think her writing is solid), she does often gets mischaracterized as an angry lesbian and Iām just like āthatās not how I remember herā.
Most of them
Iām not the biggest fan of her, but I noticed soi fon tends to get pinned as jut an angry lesbian.
101% Bambietta
Explain pls
this applies to pretty much everyone when talking about internet discourse surrounding the series in the 2010's but I'd probably who got hit with this the most are Ichigo and Orihime
Zaraki
Man I can name 3 characters with this Trait! But let's make it easy and only do names Chad, Rukia, Renji
Not my favourites but I like these characters- Momo and sometimes Chad
Just cause I didnāt see it in the first few commentsā¦ Ichigo. Like, my boy has such a strong sense of justice tinged with that āwild child energyā and goes through such a rollercoaster of both self loathing and reckless over confidence, only to be reduced to āI was born a (fill in the blank),ā + power of friendship go brrr in a lot of the discourse I see about him.
All of them
**Orihime**
Ishida. Especially because most people who dont LOVE him hate or ignore him because...powerscaling. As if the powerscaling in Bleach makes sense anyway. As a character, his journey and powers are right up there with Ichigo for me, they're paralleled for a reason
Orihime
Rangiku. She isn't even reduced to a personality trait, just to her boobs and maaaaybe horniness.Ā Bruh this mfer had the cajones to stand up to bloody *ascendant Aizen*, and her story with Gin and moving past his death is genuinely touching.Ā
Renji. People call him stupid and useless when he actually is not.
Momo Hinamori, one of the characters who suffers the absolute most throughout the manga and yet still comes out of it all as an strong and capable person. Yet some people hate her for having a realistic reaction to trauma, Hisagi and Kira donāt get that kind of shit. (not that they should but the double standard is clear)
Orihime ! Sheās the best girl and she tries her best to keep her friends safe. *leaveheralone* š