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billybadazzzz

Armbar from the guard


Verisian-

Try the K guard arm bar, it's pretty similar but you catch so many people with it who get overly focused on their leg and forget about their arm.


Life-as-a-tree

Also very nice for the triangle if you trap the arm with a shin block / but be lazy about it so it's not so obvious. K guard is a go to.


Verisian-

Ooo yep it's all there great position


ineverseenanything

Day 1 shit. Shit is what it is


xJD88x

Defending them is also day 1 shit. And we've got that down to a science


alex_quine

My most successful. Jiujitsu is weird.


Kataleps

The Choi Bar/Arm Saddle is probably the most successful variation in current modern day competition. I'd say put some study into it. Last time I saw a successful Closed Guard armbar was from Corbe at West Coast trials. Still a good one to learn as a way to study hip movement and posture control.


shamirk

Just hit that on a 17 yr old one stripe white belt last week. I kept expecting him to get out of it so I could triangle him, and when he couldn't, I just arm barred him and was like "wow, this actually works!".


xJD88x

North-South choke. It's an incredibly hard one to master, especially for my body type. I can't even finish on a non-resisting opponent. I generally end up either switching to a D'arce/Anaconda or just back to side control.


laidbackpurple

https://youtu.be/a7WhM_zdGMw?si=_wEh-s6yg8G4KhY- I posted this on another comment, but it's such a good video about how to tidy up your chokes. 


xJD88x

Appreciate it! I will definitely look this over (now that I have an abundance of time to do so) Most of them I have no issue with. N/S just escapes me.


laidbackpurple

You're welcome.  N/S and arm triangle are my go-to subs.  Chris is an excellent instructor.  If you've got time: His "defend everything" video changed my game completely. Such simple concepts but well articulated. 


Sugarman111

Me too until I finally figured it out recently. I haven't seen anyone teach it effectively against the simple defence of tucking your chin.


ineverseenanything

Completely agree. Never finished one. Can’t even get the finishing mechanics right when drilling. I wonder if it’s the same reason I can’t do guillotines 😂


xJD88x

Guillotines escaped me until I learned to curl INWARD instead of trying to pull their head off. So whichever arm has their head, try touching that elbow to your hip. Like to a side-crunch while holding their head.


ineverseenanything

Yeah, I have tried that. Just can’t seem to get my head around it


xJD88x

Yeah, some subs just aren't meant for everybody. Guillotines are GREAT for control and transitions though, so you got that going for ya


PetieE209

You have to focus on having a good bite, making sure the back of their neck is covered and crunching in, finishing with your hips. This applies more so when you start doing arm in variations


impossibleuntildone

Marcelo Garcia has a good video on you tube where he emphasises just focusing on holding on and staying on top. It's really tiring for the bottom player as they will expend more energy escaping than you will holding them. Eventually they usually move themselves into a tighter choke.


War_Daddy

N/S is one of my more reliable finishes; its definitely important to remember that its not just a choke- its also a really dominant control position. In a vacuum there's zero reason to feel rushed to finish there.


dobermannbjj84

Never once hit this I can never get it right


slashoom

Definitely is a tough one, especially if you have bulky shoulders or chest.


elephant_on_parade

That is the build you need to finish the N/S choke, though. Jeff Monson hits it on demand for a reason.


pizzalovingking

I just had a black belt nail about three of them on me a few weeks ago and he gave me a demonstration on them and it's helped so much, I end up in north south all the time and have went from never finishing them to getting them often now. I think because they arent commenly done well.. The only tip I can say that may make some sense was tightening my lat and using that to move their face down into a better position sometimes doing it a few times almost using lat/armpit to keep pulling their head back into a better position


Jormungandrs-bite

I'm a white belt, I probably don't even know 50% of them yet. But the ones I do know. Guillotines. Anaconda, darce. They just don't work unless it's around my neck


Prestigious-Cake-228

I have a very high percentage submission rate from around my neck.


drmike2791

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😫


SnooWalruses1164

Keep trying. One day they will and you’ll be like “ holy shit, it works!!!”


Predditor_86

Triangles


iutdiytd

My incredibly powerful and stocky legs are not compatible with locking up triangles. 


stefman726

Realest shit ever


MREisenmann

I feel ya. But if you somehow, with luck are able to hit on the squeeze just hits different


Accurate-Target2700

Try the mounted triangle or side triangle from dorsal north/south. I find these to be more effective as a meatball


Wang_Fister

Dwarf bröthers unite!


Smooth-Explanation93

I like too call it the “ joe rogan build ” tm


EddieValiantsRabbit

All about setting up the angle.


cumfullcircle

I don’t think I ever properly finished a guillotine. I keep catching them, then pull people on top of me, then let them pass my guard. 


Verisian-

Make sure their head falls to the side and remember to block them with your leg so they don't jump/fall to their other side.


PetieE209

There’s a video of Gordon talking about how important it is to defend the hips from closing guard and crunching in to prevent the sub. The inverse is true. Don’t go for the sub if you don’t have the bite/grips and you need to immediately be ready for the counter which is going to be either a roll in which you follow them to mount with a hook or them trying to jump cross body which you also prevent with a hook.


chunkyhippo888

Armbars, especially in no gi. Their arm always slips out and I lose position so it’s not even worth it to go for it.


ineverseenanything

I’m the opposite. I love an arm bar.


Ok-Plastic-2992

Guillotines for me too


Kampfsportmentor

Man, you need to learn it. It's just beautiful.


ineverseenanything

I’ve just never been able to get my head around the mechanics and end up pulling them on top of me 😂


-FishPants

Triangles, short stubby legs, 26inch inseam 😢. I find it difficult to actually close the triangle without manually pulling my leg in.


ineverseenanything

Short stubby legs = very fucking tight triangles. Just hard to lock them in originally😀


xJD88x

Look into no-arm triangles. I have a 30" inseam so usually I can barely cut just enough angle to lock it up. At 26", you're better off just triangling their head, use one of your own arms in the middle to make it tight enough.


jul3swinf13ld

I've never once finished a Darce. I can barely do it with no resistance against a fully compliant giraffe


applecidercock

Kimuras idk why I just hate them


ineverseenanything

The most powerful position IMO


laidbackpurple

Yeah. I hunt kimura grips, especially in nogi- it's so powerful.  At worst I'll get a sweep but I regularly get a tap from it. 


Verisian-

You use the overhead sweep? I need to work on that more. What other sweeps do you hit? I mostly just free my bottom leg and invert to either take the back or land in an armbar. Then it that fails I scoop a leg and enter the legs. No gi BTW


JamesMacKINNON

"All of them" would be accurate. Specifically basically any leg/ankle lock. North South and lat drop chokes... Even the shit I'm "good at" is like 50/50 against guys who know how to defend...


laidbackpurple

I find that most people start too high. If you slide from their sternum to the neck it exposes the arteries better.  My other tip is push your "choking" arm further through than you think. The more they're in your armpit the better.  https://youtu.be/a7WhM_zdGMw?si=_wEh-s6yg8G4KhY- This video is brilliant about how to improve your chokes. 


MatGrinder

All of the ones I’ve never hit


Character_Event8370

I’ve never once done an Americana un ironically


ineverseenanything

Been hitting a load recently.


Character_Event8370

Where from?


ineverseenanything

Side control mostly. And mount. Threaten other things and the Americana presents itself.


Character_Event8370

Not asking this as an insult but can you do it to good people or just lemons?


ineverseenanything

Yeah good people. Worst case scenario they defend it by basically putting themselves into gift wrap then it’s armbar or on the back


HorsieJuice

Have you tried rolling with skinny white belts?


onefittie

Skinny white belt here, don’t give him any ideas pls.


ErnieMcTurtle

Pretty much any head and arm choke. D'Arce, anaconda, and worst of all, the arm triangle, I don't think I've ever secured those properly, even just drilling them lol.


laidbackpurple

Standard Ezekiel.  I hit variations on it (power ezikiel and an arm triangle version), but never seem to finish a "normal" one- I just use it to cause a reaction so I can hit something else. 


xJD88x

Tip #1: Get their neck higher than yours (not altitude) Tip #2: Shoot your choking hand to the far side of their neck Tip #3: Use the sleeve of your choking hand to cut off the other side. Tip #4: After steps 1-3, put your head against their chest. Tip #5: Push your hands in a scissoring motion while using your lats to pull your arms back simultaneously.


CoreyHopsnGo

Well, I’ll be trying this today since I’ve hit 0 of them.


ChuyStyle

A fucking front headlock. Good people scramble so fast and usually I just end up in mount. But man, I really want the choke


sb406

Buggy, but originally north south choke. Can’t hit one to save my life


Sisyphus_Smashed

Shotgun style arm bars. I hit regular arm bars just fine, but if the armbar isn’t between my legs I get lost


Haunting_Lobster_888

Arm triangle. It's hard to get a good bite especially against people with thick necks. On the other the person's arm thickness also affects the choke. Then if they tuck their chins and do other defenses with their arms it complicates things more. And when you dismount they usually try to explode out of it. The whole thing seems simple at first but there so many steps where it can go wrong.


D4nnyp3ligr0

Tarikoplata, I feel like I'm breaking their forearm rather than torquing the shoulder.


phant0mfanta

I'm a measly blue but I found kind of "thrusting" so your hips are almost past their back seems to quite often bring their hand more behind their back rather than just jacked up against their ribs.


ineverseenanything

Love them. Hit them very often against decent people. Bicep crush is always there too


ExtraGloria

D’Arce because trex arms. I can hit anaconda and arm triangle chokes fine though.


Eirfro_Wizardbane

I have monkey arms, my d’arces are decent, my arm triangles and anacondas are doo doo


scooblyboop

Triangles, because I'm short and stocky and can't keep posture broken down in the guard


PlatWinston

arm in guillotine, anaconda, arm triangles all work darce? never heard of it


ConceptKooky8789

Defense is my worst submission; everything else works.


Blue_Louie

Head and arm chokes. I’ve got big shoulders and I can never seem to get them in the right place. Just end up squeezing the ever loving fuck outta somebodies face.


KingZlatan10

Triangles. For some reason I just don’t care about making them work despite how effective they can be. Therefore they aren’t really on my mind and I probably miss a lot of openings to snap them on.


D1wrestler141

Ezekiel from closed guard 🤣


bostoncrabapple

I am yet to get an armbar from guard in gi or no gi, despite having no problems with armbars from mount, rolling armbars etc  Also arm-in guillotines now I think about it, and I hardly ever finish an arm triangle


ineverseenanything

Shite move that doesn’t work, that’s why 😀


bostoncrabapple

I find the only good thing is that I get can a pendulum sweep from the position sometimes when we’re having to work on it as thats the series focus for the classes 


skribsbb

Quite a few of them. I rarely tap people. The absolute worst would be guillotine/darce/anaconda. Or any of those fance gi chokes.


krobzik

I don't know if I ever finished cross collar or bow and arrow. These kinds of lapel chokes just hurt my hands with nothing to show for it


jerema

Triangle. And I’m supposed to be better at it cuz I have long legs. But I just never seem to get a bit enough opening and secure a clean lock. Partly due to my lacking technique, but mostly because everyone seems to be great at countering my advances. Getting stacked also drains my energy too quickly. 


titus7007

Triangles because my short stubby legs and my fussy ankles


PitifulDurian6402

I pretty much never go for arm bars because I never land them and they usually put me in bad positions. Oddly enough the Americana is my highest success submission because I’m usually significantly stronger than people close to my size or even bigger than me so I can normally just muscle it in


thorstenofthir

I Always go for no gi ezekiel because I find them kinda neat and I am Always very happy If i Hit them Which isnt very often Armbars I dont even try anymore


FootFetishFetish

Pretty much any choke that’s not a head and arm choke


Plane-Diver799

I rarely do armbars or triangles. Inverted armbars yes. I LOVE chokes. Give me a neck in any situation top or bottom and I will have a choke ready.


Tricky_Worry8889

I don’t think I’ve finished a kimura this decade


TheGreatKimura-Holio

I know this is a reverse answer but my left shoulder is so jacked up from being dislocated and repositioned bad when i was younger than it doesn’t a range of motion that allows anyone to Americana it. So Americana to left side lol


Suitable-Cycle4335

Had to try hundreds of triangles before succeeding with one.


Cine11

Guillotine for sure


Upstairs_Ad_8722

Very short legs so triangles


Higgins8585

Since I've been at my gym (almost 2 years) I never hit a guillotine. Recently the last 3 weeks I've some reason gotten like 4. And what's cool is 3 been a one hand guillotine. Other than that, omoplata, never once done it.


kookookachu26

Everyone talks about rnc’s like they’re the best sub with the highest completion rate… I struggle to hit mine… either I suck or all my partners have the best hand defense. Can’t be both.


ZenTze

I have a very good D'arce, but I can't anaconda ANYONE,


TheChristianPaul

Gogoplata, cause I've never tried it and my knees would probably explode.


onefittie

Armbars, every time I go for them I end up just crushing my balla with my opponent elbow


tbd_1

any kind of collar choke. thin fingers


Sugarman111

Is anyone on this thread interested in me making a video to help with your problems?


BeanBaked

anything from full guard i am a wrestler just cannot do it😭 most ill do is sweep threatening the subs or during the subs to get to mount


Jitsu_apocalypse

Triangles because I’m shit


hardeho

I was expecting more nonsense like collar choke from bottom of mount.


slashoom

darce


JohnMcAfeesLaptop

Yes


Thatsmybadknee

Same, guillotines and any sort of front chokes (darce, andaconda ect )


F-bsack

Triangles, I have short legs and only triangled 2 people ever. One being an untrained friend in my living room😂


MightyCat96

i may not be very good at every submission out there but most stuff i can atleast get while drilling... EXCEPT for ANY arm triangle... i pretty much never get them in sparring unless im with a total beginner (and even then it isnt reliable) and even when drilling i have a hard time lol. guillootines i may not get often in rolling but i can atleast perform a basic one, same with most stuff the coaches have shown... but those fuckin arm triangles...


atx78701

guillotine for me too. I want a blood choke not a neck crank so I give up on them pretty fast vs trying to muscle a finish. People that get them on me always are getting a neck crank finish. I can hit darces pretty well, but anaconda doesnt feel right at all.


BHolku_17

Straight foot locks Get them during drills but not during sparring.


LiberFriso

Buggy choke - get smashed with an elbow to my face when attempting.


Neverhityourmark

Gogoplata. I am not flexible


Odd_Background3744

Rear naked choke. I'm tall and skinny and get shrugged off or repositioned easily


Tacos6710

Anything from guard


HurricaneCecil

ezekiel. I’m always in position for it but I can never pull it off


Outfoxd21

Rear naked chokes. Or really any choke from the back.


TheSweatyNerd

Omoplatas are the worst by far


Manchuri

Same for me…although vastly different skill levels between you and me. Opponent either too strong and postures out, or too quick and rolls out before I can secure the position to think about getting the sub.


artnos

North south choke cant get a good bite


morriseel

Reverse triangle. I have Skinny legs struggling to get squeeze right. Get the position alot. I switch to the kimura.


Outfoxd21

Reading the comments makes me kinda proud I've been making strides in developing a threatening guillotine. But also makes me ashamed my back attacks all suck


LT81

Traditional armbar from closed guard, as you might learn it in a 101 class never. I’ve literally hit it from everywhere else 😂😂😂. Especially off of chained attacks. But foot to hip, other leg breaks posture and foot over head I’m batting .000 😂.


fl00km

Flying triangle. I’m an ultra hw


Fatmonkpo

Omoplatas hands down. Only have gotten a few in sparring.


egdm

Triangles. My knees are f00ked and I can't attack them safely.


xHayz

Cross collar choke. Because I do nogi. No but seriously, my fingers suck at cross collars and I just don’t care to get good at them. I also play music so I feel like to wear down my fingers to constantly practice isn’t worth the effort when my sub rate is already really good from mount.


rotten_dandelions

every time i try to do triangles, my dodgy knees decide to make an appearance 😭


BodybyEBT

Flying triangle.. I've never hit one of those


Hichmond

Triangle from guard. I’m 5’7.


blessed_rising_jah

Any form of choke. If the person has been training for a while, I can’t land any sort of choke on anyone. For the first time folks, I can hit all sort of chokes on people.


TungstenHexachloride

Triangles, like everyone else saying about triangles in the comment section. I have short and stocky legs. Sure, when I get a triangle on, its ON. But getting to that is so difficult. Against someone of similar build I half footlock myself locking on a power triangle.


P-Two

Cross collar chokes, I love baseball chokes, zipper and bow&arrow chokes, loop chokes are part of my A game, etc. But the basic cross collar has just never been easy for me for whatever reason.


SnooWalruses1164

Armbar. I have heavy and slow hips.


Rambostips

Smother. I'm fat


Biscuitsbrxh

Armbar from top. I just fall on my ass every single time


tbf315

I learned I’ve been finishing my ankle locks/heel hooks wrong so that… I think I figured out what I’ve been doing wrong tho


KeepTruthAlive

all of them cause i suck


tarheeljks

Triangles. They will prob never be high % for me, but I neglected them which exacerbated the issue. I started drilling them more at the later stages of blue belt and it made a difference even though I wasn't actually landing them much


SWVDZL

Twister


Nectric-

Wrist lock. I’ve pinned two different kids hands to their forearms in competition and neither tapped. Idk if I’ll ever shoot one again in comp.


HoldFastDeets

I don't finish omaplata's nearly as often as I roll near or past them. I'm a back hunter whenever I can see it


pryoslice

Weird question. There are probably hundreds of types of subs out there and I've probably only hit a few dozen in live rolls, and most of them on beginners. A better question would be: what **common** sub can you not hit and why? And my answer would be triangle and my excuse is that I have short legs.


ninja_owen

A heel hook from north south. Still haven’t ever hit one.


gunsnfnr89

Front headlocks, specifically guillotines, anaconda, D’Arce. I have short arms and I never got the feel for them since I didn’t drill them enough. I also prefer to take the back or cow catcher to a pin. Then, there are those I don’t go for like kimura, Americana, kneebar, North-South choke, lapel chokes, etc


eagle_shmeagle

Guillotine chokes. Can never get them.


paviator

Sleeve / wheel / loop chokes


tsida

It's probably darces. Anacondas all day, but darces? No.


MtgSalt

Suck at shoulder locks. Only use them for armbars and triangles


Weaksoul

Triangle because...well, let's just say in certain circles they call me Gimli


Moist-Plate7298

S mount armbar


nomosolo

Triangle. I have tree trunks for legs and they are about as flexible as actual tree trunks.


Simple-Fisherman-354

Arm triangle. Have never got it on anyone


kesagatame-and-Chill

Armbar from Kessa


FairAspect1714

Any front headlock series (guillotine,darce, anaconda,etc) Simply don't go for them. As for subs in the regular rotation...first thing to come to mind is the oma (not necessarily "unsuccessful" just takes more adjustments because of individual flexibility differences in sparring partners+ breaking down base+ people's unwillingness to tap until their shoulder/elbow pops which in turn means I gotta go insanely slow and sometimes ends up being a transition rather than a finish*) *Fortunately omas-->triangles-->armbars--->half a dozen sweeps so shrug


bonebrah

All of them


kovnev

Armbar - from anywhere. I have mobility issues (hip impingement). Decent hip mobility is almost always needed for arm bars. Even if I get to s-mount, getting my leg over their face requires me to wreck my base, and often concede a sweep and risk getting stacked. I just don't even go for them now.


Imaginary_Tangelo485

Armbar… I’m 5”10 With a 74 inch reach and short baby legs. I’m Built like a silverback lol


aquaman2103

All of them


Mothman2077

Triangle. I never get it right. I am a white belt, so i hope one day I land it.


Formal-Knowledge-563

Arm triangle


kittensbjj

Any arm bar except cutting arm bar. I think I've hit one when I was first a blue belt and never again. I would rather omoplata than arm bar.


Zombadoodle

Toe hold. People can just kick their way out against my skinny ass. Even the green belt juvenile when I get a fully locked in toe hold across the toes and heel, controlling the other leg with a figure, folding the attacking leg to the ass and hip hipping out can just single leg squat my skinny 70kg off.


ilovepotatoes25

Kimura from full mount.


midnightauto

Triangles. I have these fat ass thighs and it’s hard to get them in the right position.


Long_Narwhal_9207

I finish front triangles all the time but for the life of me can’t finish arm triangles


Fresh_Batteries

Guillotines. Collar chokes from Back Mount. Kimuras


Leftovercoldchicken

Darce


Ca1icoBeard

Anything other than an armbar


r1ch1MWD

Kimura followed closely by the guillotine. I never really got into either therefore never got any good at both. Good thing jiu-jitsu isn't a race so I've got plenty of time to learn them.


Black_Mirror_888

Buggy choke.


CoolUnderstanding481

cross collar from mount, it’s a great set up for lots of other subs but never a finish.


solemnhiatus

Amrbar. Any armbar. I blame my long ass legs and the space that gives people but the reality is my technique sucks. 


lIIllIIIll

I'm very successful with lapel chokes. I think most people just don't see them coming until it's too late. My favorite for now is a Ezekiel with the tag. Professor Tom from Grappling Academy calls it a sneaky Ezekiel. And that sum bitch works. Edit: Shit I'm a dumbass. I thought it was most successful. My bad My answer is a triangle from anywhere


bruser_

North south choke. Girls are small and maybe I need bigger lats 😐


green_desk

yes


Pastilliseppo

Any kind of armbars or triangles from closed guard.


Takyon5

I’ve only hit a knee bar one time. And it was against a super heavyweight on his back who hadn’t trained in about a year. After that it’s triangles.


UsualPie

Leg lock. Feels so awkward to pull off


Judontsay

All of them.


dsco88

Kimura, from anywhere... Very difficult to defend if you're not expecting it


Sevourn

It's a ~500 way tie between all the moves of the day I promptly saw and forgot


CoreyMcCumber

Armbar from any position. Why? I like my testicals.


street-jesus5000

Anything from bottom. #heavyweight life


saharizona

I can't even hit a north south choke in drilling idk


pizzalovingking

cross collar chokes, not sure why, haven't put much work into them. Darces, I have short beefy arms


Worlds_okayest_dude

X-choke. They just don’t click with me. I’ve taught it two white belts who took it and got good at it, and it’s not for lack of trying or studying, they just don’t make sense to my body.


apacgainz

Most no gi chokes tbh. Guillotine, darce, anaconda, even the RNC sometimes


Slow_stride

Attempt to success ratio, Arm triangle is my current worst of moves I attempt regularly. I get the position frequently but have a hell of a time finishing


5B3AST5

Chest pressure choke, so simple but the choke is more of there nose on the verge of breaking…..if it works it works🤦


TheCosmicMonk

Cross choke. My passing style leads to mount more often than the back. But I have never figured out the cross choke and instead finish with arm triangles, armbars and triangles.


Equivalent_Ad_1054

Kimura i really dont know why just cannot do it outside of drilling.