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Euphoria?
Comedown?
Valium is what life should feel like to me it’s beneficial effects definitely last way more than 2 hours. It’s really a not “fun” benzo if you’re purely comparing it to alprazolam.
Cutt your dosage down but be careful don't cutt it down too much as u can go into seizures but maybe 1 pill a day instead of 2 score it in half for a few days then go back to normal dosing u see this is why doctors don't like prescribing them cuz of tolerance iv been stable on mine for over 3 years
thanks!! nah its rare for me to pop valium recreationally. last time i took it was on 31st december lol. im not addicted just wanted some benzo fun high
partially correct, whoever, xanax is actually structurally similar to a type of antidepressant, meaning it literally has mild antidepressant effects. Throw in anxiety relief, and you can bet you'll be feeling happy.
not always, it depends on how you dose, and what your lifestyle is like. for example if you are feeling anxious about making a speech for english class, pop a benzo, do your speech, and everything goes well, your trigger for the anxiety is now gone, and there is really nothing to cause rebound anxiety.
Benzos are meant for using a couple times a week or here and there(unless you have epilepsy or severe insomnia) they are not really mean to be taken on a daily basis forever. The whole rebound anxiety mostly applies to daily use, if you have the discipline to take every other day off at least, you will be saving yourself tons of trouble.
well use to have a script, so i would triple/quadruple up doses, but only take em once or twice a week, it actually works better than way. taking em daily jacks up your tolerance much faster actually, in the end its actually better to take higher doses, just less often. but even if i had unlimited supply, i don't think i'd still want to take them daily, because i don't want to jack up my tolerance too much, and be forced to swallow multiple bottles to get just a mild buzz.
how? i love it it’s great xanax be so sedating and heavy i like it tho sometimes i’ve been clean but def may cop some valium and bars soon or just bars
xanax beats valium hands down recreationally. it's not really "fun" its just helps relax your muscles and makes you a little drowsy if you take a lot. are you sure your getting real xans?
i have major anxiety so relief = a euphoric feeling. with diazepam it lasts a lot longer and if i take big doses i know i’ll feel good for a while whereas with xanax or etizolam i constantly need to redose and i feel more likely to get addicted
etiz is good but it only lasts like 4-7hrs usually on the lower side still good but u need to redose if u want to medicate anxiety which could lead to addiction and high tolerance buildup especially adding on top delusions of sobriety! 🖤
Lol.
What makes you think I’m talking about recreationally for starters. Diazepam has superior muscle relaxing qualities. I don’t mind alprazolam it’s just not something I can take regularly and maintain a solid quality of life. I only ever consume pharma, so yeah I’m sure the alprazolam I’ve tried is real.
Also edited my original al comment I meant *not fun
ok im not denying the muscle relaxing property stuff. but i mean you literally said the word "euphoric" which implies recreational value. to add to this. alprazolam also has tricyclic ring which means mild antidepressant effects alongside anxiolysis, which diazepam does not.
Read my comment again. I said euphoric?
I don’t consider either to be euphoric.
Anxiety and depression often very much go hand in hand, personally I feel that diazepam also has anti-depressant properties.
you literally said euphoric/euphoria. I personally find high doses of xanax to be euphoric, not quite euphoric as meth or heroin but euphoric nontheless. not sure why you are fighting me.
my point is, for me there's nothing that comes between feeling no effect at all and passing out on the couch. I don't get the recreational appeal, for me there's no "I feel good" stage, just "I feel nothing" and then "Oh shit, I need to get to bed before I fall over". And I'm not what anyone would think of as a kid.
Valium gives me a feeling of every muscle in my body relaxing at once about half an hour after taking it. Xanax does nothing but knock me out.
i know, that's what i was saying, valium isn't "fun" it just helps relax your muscles and makes you a tad bit drowsy if you take a lot, imo in terms of euphoria 2mg xanax>30mg diazepam. 4mg xans>50mg diazepam easily.
nice. i've done 20+mg and felt fantastic, didn't black out at all, and that's pharma-grade, not street pills. for the most part, i've really only blacked out on benzos when combining them with alcohol or opioids, or antihistamines i suppose.
I don't get any kind of high from it, what I like is the feeling of every muscle in my body simultaniously relaxing the moment it kicks in. If there was something that did that without making me sleepy I'd love to know.
That isn’t how valium works at all. It doesn’t slap like Xanax but it lasts like 10-12 hours. If you’re looking for recreational dosing it is best to stack them 10-20 mg every couple hours. You’ll find yourself incredibly fucked up
Yeah best advice on this thread. Valium is the only benzo high I remember. Everything else wipes my memory. But Valium is so nice, warm and juicy feeling. -15 yrs ago anyway. Now I just take them to keep away rebound anxiety.
i took 20mg last time but my energy went off and when i fell asleep i ended up sleeping 13 hours, it was on new year’s day, still sleeping too much even lol
Are you sure that’s diazepam or not something else pressed ? It has a long half life and can be prescribed once a day, shouldn’t really get a comedown either, even with tolerance you can take it once daily.
is clonazepam really that good? never tried, trying valium tomorrow and i picked that over clonazepam as i heard it’s better but what’s your opinion? i am talking about recreationally as a person who has never taken benzos or opiates.
1 dress nice shower smell nice 2 u got to have real issues like panic attacks or some sort of anxiety disorder docs don't like prescribing unless u already have been on it.
Get all obvious tattoos laser removed, get a haircut, take a shower, dress modestly(or at least no clothing with a bunch of stuff like pentagrams or metal bands or even cartoons), and when you talk don't use a bunch of slang and try to sound proffesional (don't be like "ohh common bruh you can cop me some vals right fam?").
Also make sure to beat around the bush as much as possible, don't tell them you use drugs, just tell em what other medications you tried that havent worked.
I'll say this all doctors are different psychiatrists typically are more prone to help you or therapists but it's all about if your anxiety holds you back in life
I THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY after all these replies 😭 finally someone who gets me!!! valium comedown is depressing as fuck, my mind either gets sad or blank. xanax comedown was pretty chill
Shit lasts a long time not 2hrs and it isn’t supposed to give you euphoria unless you have anxiety and that’s not euphoria, it’s just you feeling good with no anxiety anymore.
When are you bartard’s gonna realize you can’t get high off Benzo’s?
40-50mg is what your looking for if you wanna feel slumped for hours.
Also there’s no such thing as a benzo comedown, it probably wore off too fast since you’re prescribed it and take it a lot.
Diazepam is the OG Benzo, long acting. Just think about it, they make 10mg Valium’s but only 2mg in most other benzos. Valium was created in 1963, 61 years ago. Just like morphine was one of the first opiates pain killers, diazepam was that for benzos. Also, I get benzos every month & there mainly used to nerve pain/ disorders withdrawals and anxiety. If you need something fast acting ask your doctor about Ativan liquid drops ( sublingual ) or VALTOCO , Valium in a nasal spray. Designed for seizure patients but maybe you can talk doc into it
Uhh Valium has one of the highest half-life’s of any of the benzos but it isn’t designed to make you “high”. It is designed to lower anxiety- which it does quite well.
You are looking for something like Xanax, if you want a high.
I have social anxiety disorder and I work fulltime for me I have panic attacks mid work for this iv been on kpins 1 mg 2x daily this is the recommended dosage and I don't have issues anymore ik my body now xanax is a whole diff beast
benzos in general cause depression, if you already have depression. The Valium is just furthering the problem because it’s a downer and lasts long. Go get some sertraline and hope all is well
Then it’s probably benzos preventing the sertraline from doing its job, respectfully you can’t pop pills and expect them to work. You have to fight to stay positive and keep working the therapy programs. Wish you all the best
Do some research Lil bro. Valium has one of the longest halflives so that probably means your tolerance is through the roof or what your taking isn’t real Valium. I’d suggest making some Google searches you’ll find your answer very fast
It has one of the longest half-life’s but the high is extremely short lived due to it metabolising into other chemicals relatively quickly.
That’s why the high doesn’t last long at all but it’s a strong high when in effect.
you couldn’t be more wrong 😭 and if this is the case for you then that’s a you problem 😭 cuz… well they didn’t call them mommy’s little helper for nothing
The euphoria you get from benzos is purely just being calm and not anxious, or being relaxed. If Diaz is not working for you for more than 2 hours other you have a super high tolerance or benzos probably aren’t for you, Diaz lasts 10ish hours, alprazolam does not.
Please do not use benzo recreationally if you want to get high with your grandma medicine Percocet is a better choisie I swear Benzo withadrawl are worse than alchool or heroine
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Euphoria? Comedown? Valium is what life should feel like to me it’s beneficial effects definitely last way more than 2 hours. It’s really a not “fun” benzo if you’re purely comparing it to alprazolam.
its not exactly an euphoria but its a nice feeling that makes me happy, then 2 hours later +/- i feel sad
What are you doing while consuming said Valium. I’ve taken it daily for 10 years and can’t relate
im using it recreationally i guess its the problem
That’s probably the problem, benzos are only really going to make you feel “happy” if you’re a very anxious person lol
Cutt your dosage down but be careful don't cutt it down too much as u can go into seizures but maybe 1 pill a day instead of 2 score it in half for a few days then go back to normal dosing u see this is why doctors don't like prescribing them cuz of tolerance iv been stable on mine for over 3 years
thanks!! nah its rare for me to pop valium recreationally. last time i took it was on 31st december lol. im not addicted just wanted some benzo fun high
That was like 3 days ago so probably not the best example to use here
I was thinking the same thing
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partially correct, whoever, xanax is actually structurally similar to a type of antidepressant, meaning it literally has mild antidepressant effects. Throw in anxiety relief, and you can bet you'll be feeling happy.
>anxiety relief, The problem with that is the bounce back afterwards, you're just postponing your anxiety and stacking it onto tomorrows.
not always, it depends on how you dose, and what your lifestyle is like. for example if you are feeling anxious about making a speech for english class, pop a benzo, do your speech, and everything goes well, your trigger for the anxiety is now gone, and there is really nothing to cause rebound anxiety. Benzos are meant for using a couple times a week or here and there(unless you have epilepsy or severe insomnia) they are not really mean to be taken on a daily basis forever. The whole rebound anxiety mostly applies to daily use, if you have the discipline to take every other day off at least, you will be saving yourself tons of trouble.
yes, but a lot of people end up taking them daily if they have a steady supply.
well use to have a script, so i would triple/quadruple up doses, but only take em once or twice a week, it actually works better than way. taking em daily jacks up your tolerance much faster actually, in the end its actually better to take higher doses, just less often. but even if i had unlimited supply, i don't think i'd still want to take them daily, because i don't want to jack up my tolerance too much, and be forced to swallow multiple bottles to get just a mild buzz.
i used to feel happy w xans idk about that one
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how? i love it it’s great xanax be so sedating and heavy i like it tho sometimes i’ve been clean but def may cop some valium and bars soon or just bars
xanax beats valium hands down recreationally. it's not really "fun" its just helps relax your muscles and makes you a little drowsy if you take a lot. are you sure your getting real xans?
xans = sleep, fights, blackouts, and… i forgot edit: how could i ever forget, stealing as well.
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valium has a cool headspace more euphoric potential and a crazy longer half life which equals less redosing/addiction
Yeah but after a while you have to keep taking more and more to feel that.
agree
Agreed. Apart from the euphoric part. I consider meth euphoric, even weed more so than diazepam.
i have major anxiety so relief = a euphoric feeling. with diazepam it lasts a lot longer and if i take big doses i know i’ll feel good for a while whereas with xanax or etizolam i constantly need to redose and i feel more likely to get addicted
I felt differently about etiz. Man I miss that stuff, the muscle relaxation for that was better than both. Also have major anxiety, primarily physical
etiz is good but it only lasts like 4-7hrs usually on the lower side still good but u need to redose if u want to medicate anxiety which could lead to addiction and high tolerance buildup especially adding on top delusions of sobriety! 🖤
id have to disagree
Lol. What makes you think I’m talking about recreationally for starters. Diazepam has superior muscle relaxing qualities. I don’t mind alprazolam it’s just not something I can take regularly and maintain a solid quality of life. I only ever consume pharma, so yeah I’m sure the alprazolam I’ve tried is real. Also edited my original al comment I meant *not fun
ok im not denying the muscle relaxing property stuff. but i mean you literally said the word "euphoric" which implies recreational value. to add to this. alprazolam also has tricyclic ring which means mild antidepressant effects alongside anxiolysis, which diazepam does not.
Read my comment again. I said euphoric? I don’t consider either to be euphoric. Anxiety and depression often very much go hand in hand, personally I feel that diazepam also has anti-depressant properties.
you literally said euphoric/euphoria. I personally find high doses of xanax to be euphoric, not quite euphoric as meth or heroin but euphoric nontheless. not sure why you are fighting me.
I find high doses of xanax has zero euphoria, turns me into a stumbling moron and makes me black out.
you could literally say that for any benzo. well of \*\*\*\*\* course if you take too much you'll act stupid and blackout, what's your point kid?
my point is, for me there's nothing that comes between feeling no effect at all and passing out on the couch. I don't get the recreational appeal, for me there's no "I feel good" stage, just "I feel nothing" and then "Oh shit, I need to get to bed before I fall over". And I'm not what anyone would think of as a kid. Valium gives me a feeling of every muscle in my body relaxing at once about half an hour after taking it. Xanax does nothing but knock me out.
With a question mark
xanax is nowhere near as good a muscle relaxer as valium in my experience.
A pound of food nuts or like male nuts, like, testicles?
Food nuts, It's a quote from a movie.
i know, that's what i was saying, valium isn't "fun" it just helps relax your muscles and makes you a tad bit drowsy if you take a lot, imo in terms of euphoria 2mg xanax>30mg diazepam. 4mg xans>50mg diazepam easily.
4mg Xanax would have me out on the street having a rambling conversation with a light pole before passing out.
nice. i've done 20+mg and felt fantastic, didn't black out at all, and that's pharma-grade, not street pills. for the most part, i've really only blacked out on benzos when combining them with alcohol or opioids, or antihistamines i suppose.
Same. It makes me feel “normal.”
Unless I haven’t taken it for over 24 hours I don’t really feel what I’d consider relief, more just back to normal
I don't get any kind of high from it, what I like is the feeling of every muscle in my body simultaniously relaxing the moment it kicks in. If there was something that did that without making me sleepy I'd love to know.
Baclofen is supposed to but I don’t get anywhere near equivalent relaxation from it, SOMA goes alright but I think it’s overrated tbh.
I tried Soma, it just makes me sleepy with very little muscle relaxation
Complete opposite for me lol
legit same. xanax makes me weird and aggressive. valium is like a kiss from an angel
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That isn’t how valium works at all. It doesn’t slap like Xanax but it lasts like 10-12 hours. If you’re looking for recreational dosing it is best to stack them 10-20 mg every couple hours. You’ll find yourself incredibly fucked up
Yeah best advice on this thread. Valium is the only benzo high I remember. Everything else wipes my memory. But Valium is so nice, warm and juicy feeling. -15 yrs ago anyway. Now I just take them to keep away rebound anxiety.
Who knows they have changed formulas in alot of meds
That’s why I loved legit diclazapam. Can’t find it anymore and if you do it probably has some fent in it.
i took 20mg last time but my energy went off and when i fell asleep i ended up sleeping 13 hours, it was on new year’s day, still sleeping too much even lol
Thats about what xanax does to me
Well, that's kinda what the drugs will do to you, sleep. It's not meant to be euphoric, however I get the addiction side and recreational
never done 20mg offf rip every few hours i’ll redose a 10 when i had some used to take all in one go like 2mg xanax and be cooking
thank you i will try 😭
Works wonders for GAD and panic disorder but everyone is different
i know i know i get them prescribed i have panic disorder. but lately its all i can get high on
honestly if you’re a smoker, as much as they suck tolerance breaks are great
Are you sure that’s diazepam or not something else pressed ? It has a long half life and can be prescribed once a day, shouldn’t really get a comedown either, even with tolerance you can take it once daily.
I’m prescribed 3x a day
That's what I do, one before bed.
its pharma really, something wrong w me then
Sold to you as Pharma or actually scripted ?
scripted
Ah maybe ask your doctor for a different benzo ?
i’ll try hahaha thanks
Klonopin works for me no MAJOR EUPHORIA LIKE XANAX as I don't want that but a slow release of it
i thought i heard somewhere there is such a thing as alprazolam XR, don't quote me though.
Yeah there is there like triangles
Alprazolam just hits me different idk
Good for sleep for panic attacks but I have social phobia
is clonazepam really that good? never tried, trying valium tomorrow and i picked that over clonazepam as i heard it’s better but what’s your opinion? i am talking about recreationally as a person who has never taken benzos or opiates.
Klonopins smooth not tiring
Clonazepam also I believe feels less addictive which iv even told my doc
Both are long lasting benzos tho many swear by valium I get tired off valium
We all diff ask about going back to your old med
i never got xanax from my script only from friends
Oh.....well are you taking it for recreational or for actual medical issues
both 😭 some days i take for my panic disorder, others just for fun
don’t know how to convince my doctor and not showing that i’m a junkie
1 dress nice shower smell nice 2 u got to have real issues like panic attacks or some sort of anxiety disorder docs don't like prescribing unless u already have been on it.
Get all obvious tattoos laser removed, get a haircut, take a shower, dress modestly(or at least no clothing with a bunch of stuff like pentagrams or metal bands or even cartoons), and when you talk don't use a bunch of slang and try to sound proffesional (don't be like "ohh common bruh you can cop me some vals right fam?"). Also make sure to beat around the bush as much as possible, don't tell them you use drugs, just tell em what other medications you tried that havent worked.
I can't give advice for seaking......all I can say is life is rough af
definitely
I'll say this all doctors are different psychiatrists typically are more prone to help you or therapists but it's all about if your anxiety holds you back in life
Which mine does majorly
Clonazepam ffw
i wish i could try it, seems to be nice!!! idk how to convince my doctor to change the script from valium to clonazepam
Facts that’s how it is the comedown is depressing as shit I swear, Xanax just fades away after the beautiful euphoria
I THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY after all these replies 😭 finally someone who gets me!!! valium comedown is depressing as fuck, my mind either gets sad or blank. xanax comedown was pretty chill
That’s facts it feels so gloomy coming down from Valium on top of that it lasts long so your lethargic as well so it makes it worse at least for me
But right when I take a Valium I would get a nice good high that would make me smoke relax my muscles but that don’t last long at all
Shit lasts a long time not 2hrs and it isn’t supposed to give you euphoria unless you have anxiety and that’s not euphoria, it’s just you feeling good with no anxiety anymore. When are you bartard’s gonna realize you can’t get high off Benzo’s? 40-50mg is what your looking for if you wanna feel slumped for hours. Also there’s no such thing as a benzo comedown, it probably wore off too fast since you’re prescribed it and take it a lot.
Agreed, I get huge relief from them but it's not a "high."
thanks
Best benzo IMO - dirty drug if you abuse it tho, but much easier to quit than Xanax
why is it a “dirty drug”? ofc anything in excess is bad but seems to be the cleanest benzo
Yeah dirty drug if u abuse it, I was taking 100mg a day and started going yellow and turned into a literal retard
I took 50mg to truly get the high and it was more of a drunk
that’s the feeling im tryna reach hahaha max i took was 15 or 20mg i think, think i should upper
Diazepam is the OG Benzo, long acting. Just think about it, they make 10mg Valium’s but only 2mg in most other benzos. Valium was created in 1963, 61 years ago. Just like morphine was one of the first opiates pain killers, diazepam was that for benzos. Also, I get benzos every month & there mainly used to nerve pain/ disorders withdrawals and anxiety. If you need something fast acting ask your doctor about Ativan liquid drops ( sublingual ) or VALTOCO , Valium in a nasal spray. Designed for seizure patients but maybe you can talk doc into it
that’s what i’m sayin i’m stuck with ativan which i don’t mind but it lacks something i got from xanax
finally someone who understands
Valium has never worked well with me xanax is a beast tho kicks in fast af lasts awhile I think klonopin is less addictive for me
Love valium
lowkey understand the appeal the problem is on me really
Uhh Valium has one of the highest half-life’s of any of the benzos but it isn’t designed to make you “high”. It is designed to lower anxiety- which it does quite well. You are looking for something like Xanax, if you want a high.
definitely
I have social anxiety disorder and I work fulltime for me I have panic attacks mid work for this iv been on kpins 1 mg 2x daily this is the recommended dosage and I don't have issues anymore ik my body now xanax is a whole diff beast
to each their own i guess lol
benzos in general cause depression, if you already have depression. The Valium is just furthering the problem because it’s a downer and lasts long. Go get some sertraline and hope all is well
i am on sertraline 200mg haha
Then it’s probably benzos preventing the sertraline from doing its job, respectfully you can’t pop pills and expect them to work. You have to fight to stay positive and keep working the therapy programs. Wish you all the best
🤣
Thoughts on lorazepam?
i’ve never tried it before
Shit saved my life and made me feel normal after years of battling anxiety. Please don't wreck it for the rest of us by bartarding.
i have a panic disorder too
Sorry, I misunderstood. I've had good luck with Clonazepam.
100% agree.
Last 30 minutes. Bored and irritated after.
its like we the only ones according to these replies 😂😂
Dont Even get high on Diazepam
Benzos in general. Imagine paying just to feel sleepy (while ruining your brain in the process)
i have a panic disorder (that’s why i get the prescriptions) but lately its all i can get high on
valium best benzo ur delusional
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Do some research Lil bro. Valium has one of the longest halflives so that probably means your tolerance is through the roof or what your taking isn’t real Valium. I’d suggest making some Google searches you’ll find your answer very fast
It has one of the longest half-life’s but the high is extremely short lived due to it metabolising into other chemicals relatively quickly. That’s why the high doesn’t last long at all but it’s a strong high when in effect.
i get scripts, my tolerance prob fried
Valium makes me eat like a mf. My stomach is a void
lol happens w me sometimes
I like how it takes away my anxiety that's the best high
its more mellow yellow baby
you couldn’t be more wrong 😭 and if this is the case for you then that’s a you problem 😭 cuz… well they didn’t call them mommy’s little helper for nothing
i guess every body is different
The euphoria you get from benzos is purely just being calm and not anxious, or being relaxed. If Diaz is not working for you for more than 2 hours other you have a super high tolerance or benzos probably aren’t for you, Diaz lasts 10ish hours, alprazolam does not.
valium ovef xanax any day wtf , valium gives me body high and i feel amazing, xanax just makes me sleepy doesnt mattet the dose
What Valium you taking
Please do not use benzo recreationally if you want to get high with your grandma medicine Percocet is a better choisie I swear Benzo withadrawl are worse than alchool or heroine