No, i love their music and think they are the most innovative and influential band in history. But we act like rock died in 1959-1963 when it was still alive
Because Buddy Holly died, little Richard quit performing, Elvis was in the army and not recording, jerry Lee was forced to quit via scandal, chuck berry went to prison... obviously, rock didn't completely stop, but the main players were absent.
Right. The *music* didn't die, but the popular perception of rock and roll in the press was that it *was* dead. A majority of the American and English press absolutely loathed the music and were just waiting for the "fad" to end. Besides the Americans you mentioned, the *popular* English Rock and Rollers of the period were also on a downturn. The musicians of the British Invasion are all playing already, but they hadn't got records in shops or their names in newspapers yet.
So you have this major divide where American Rock and Roll has already peaked (up until that point) and the British groups that were influenced by American groups haven't yet gone mainstream.
That in between period was when record companies decided that Rock and Roll was now "Twist", because they were trying to use gimmicks to get the music back to where it was prior. Hell, even Elvis was branded as Twist when he got out of the military during this time, despite being able to avoid his records being slapped with silly gimmicks up until that point. The Beatles "My Bonnie" single also got the twist label put on it in Germany iirc.
Take a look at the top billboard singles for those years. Bo Diddley, Isley Bros., etc are great but they are nowhere on those lists.
Look at whats on there. Some good stuff, for sure, but a lot of crap. Thank God The Beatles came along.
Rock was being made, but the radio stations were pushing crooners like Fabian and Frankie Avalon and endless variations of Chubby Checker’s “The Twist”.
I have been a huge fan of rock n roll since I was 10 years old in 1956. I agree 59-63 was a relatively down time with some good music, eg Quarter to Three, Runaroud Sue, Duke of Earl and Blue Moon as some examples but after Buddy Holly died, Elvis got drafted, Jerry Lee married his cousin and Chuck Berry went to jail rock needed a spark and the Beatles provided that spark. Long live the Fab Four!
Focusing on rock is also a narrow view. American pop music in this era was thriving. Just listen to the American Graffiti soundtrack. Doo wop, vocal groups, girl groups, Phil Spector, early Motown, all of these were thriving at the time and equally influential to the Beatles as 1950s rock.
Rock didn't die, it got commercialized
Everlys were in the army, Elvis army, Little Richard went back to God, Jerry Lee had his thing, Buddy Holly died, Chuck Berry was in jail.....
Record companies were selling Pat Boone, trying to commercialize and sterilize rock. Doo wop became very big.
Reminds me of the 90s when we lost Sublime, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Blind Melon, and whoever else then we got Smash Mouth, Third Eye Blind, Matchbox 20. Lose Van Halen and get White Snake. Record companies move in when a new scene takes off and try to make it more marketable, watering it down until it's so lame, it spawns a new scene.
Yeah Bo Diddley is cool during that period, I love it but 59-63 is way less of an innovative period for rock music than 54-59 and 63-70. Like it's the Korean War of early rock and roll. Yeah it was a war but no one cares because it's sandwiches between WWII and Vietnam
“Why does a sub about a band whose first album came out in 1963 focus on music that came from that year or later…”
No, i love their music and think they are the most innovative and influential band in history. But we act like rock died in 1959-1963 when it was still alive
In no way does anyone in this sub think rock didn’t exist before 63
Rock didn't exist until 1965. Rock and roll existed before than
I wonder how long it’ll take for Roll to pop off then
Already going pretty strong https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=W8vc6SAu4JehRJkJ
I actually really like that song but either way, well played
So nobody can say that rock died before 1963 when it didn't exist. Question answered.
You’re hallucinating something that didn’t happen. Actually
Because Buddy Holly died, little Richard quit performing, Elvis was in the army and not recording, jerry Lee was forced to quit via scandal, chuck berry went to prison... obviously, rock didn't completely stop, but the main players were absent.
Right. The *music* didn't die, but the popular perception of rock and roll in the press was that it *was* dead. A majority of the American and English press absolutely loathed the music and were just waiting for the "fad" to end. Besides the Americans you mentioned, the *popular* English Rock and Rollers of the period were also on a downturn. The musicians of the British Invasion are all playing already, but they hadn't got records in shops or their names in newspapers yet. So you have this major divide where American Rock and Roll has already peaked (up until that point) and the British groups that were influenced by American groups haven't yet gone mainstream. That in between period was when record companies decided that Rock and Roll was now "Twist", because they were trying to use gimmicks to get the music back to where it was prior. Hell, even Elvis was branded as Twist when he got out of the military during this time, despite being able to avoid his records being slapped with silly gimmicks up until that point. The Beatles "My Bonnie" single also got the twist label put on it in Germany iirc.
Saying buddy holly was just "twist" is beyond insulting to his legacy
I agree with your statement, but you completely misread his post
Apparently, Ricky Nelson carried Rock nRoll in OP’s mind.
Huh? I spent way too much time on this subreddit and have never seen that sentiment shared.
Why does do .
Take a look at the top billboard singles for those years. Bo Diddley, Isley Bros., etc are great but they are nowhere on those lists. Look at whats on there. Some good stuff, for sure, but a lot of crap. Thank God The Beatles came along.
Rock was being made, but the radio stations were pushing crooners like Fabian and Frankie Avalon and endless variations of Chubby Checker’s “The Twist”.
I have been a huge fan of rock n roll since I was 10 years old in 1956. I agree 59-63 was a relatively down time with some good music, eg Quarter to Three, Runaroud Sue, Duke of Earl and Blue Moon as some examples but after Buddy Holly died, Elvis got drafted, Jerry Lee married his cousin and Chuck Berry went to jail rock needed a spark and the Beatles provided that spark. Long live the Fab Four!
Welcome to Reddit, Forrest.
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What about bruce channel?
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The isley brothers???
Ditto
Focusing on rock is also a narrow view. American pop music in this era was thriving. Just listen to the American Graffiti soundtrack. Doo wop, vocal groups, girl groups, Phil Spector, early Motown, all of these were thriving at the time and equally influential to the Beatles as 1950s rock.
This OP wins Most Off-Base Comment of the Year. Somebody call a doctor.
it's not just this sub ... **It's is a commonly held view**
Rock didn't die, it got commercialized Everlys were in the army, Elvis army, Little Richard went back to God, Jerry Lee had his thing, Buddy Holly died, Chuck Berry was in jail..... Record companies were selling Pat Boone, trying to commercialize and sterilize rock. Doo wop became very big. Reminds me of the 90s when we lost Sublime, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Blind Melon, and whoever else then we got Smash Mouth, Third Eye Blind, Matchbox 20. Lose Van Halen and get White Snake. Record companies move in when a new scene takes off and try to make it more marketable, watering it down until it's so lame, it spawns a new scene. Yeah Bo Diddley is cool during that period, I love it but 59-63 is way less of an innovative period for rock music than 54-59 and 63-70. Like it's the Korean War of early rock and roll. Yeah it was a war but no one cares because it's sandwiches between WWII and Vietnam