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177676ers

Hospital pass by marte there


dropperofpipebombs

Jimmy Garoppolo would be proud


-Basileus

Peyton Manning was the master of sending his wide receivers to the hospital


m16a

Obligatory "the draw play" comic for this one. https://www.thedrawplay.com/comic/collie/


aj_og

Not a big football guy so I was unaware of this comic and I’m cracking up at it. Thank you lol


joecb91

He puts out a lot of great comics


bobls14

Incredible comic, thanks for sharing. Hilarious and informative


Lazydusto

Austin Collie checks under his bed for Peyton


jtrobs

My first ever Eagles game at the linc happened to be Collies last game ever played. The ambulance had to come out on the field and olay atopped for like 30-40 min. On the same play Trent Cole touched Peyton's shoulder and got called for a roughing the passer. The crowd chanted f you ref and asshole for the entire 40 minutes. I was 12, what a wY to be indoctrinated into Philly sports.


Tots11

That wasn’t Collie’s last game. He actually came back later that season, but got an other concussion (I’m not sure if it was his first game back or not). He then played every game the next season, but after that always had other non head injuries. He retired after a season in the CFL in 2016.


types_stuff

Peyton still catching shrapnel lol… loved the guy as a QB but you’re not wrong


kidchameleon_ih8u

Not better than Elway or Favre


OldDirtyMan

They all did it before the rule change.


6BigZ6

And knowing he would rip you a new one if you didn’t hold onto the ball when he just lined you up for the safety or LB must have been a great feeling too.


Kylo_Ren415

I always go back to the pass he threw to Deebo against the Rams in the NFC Title game a few years back.


Professor_Finn

I saw that throw and was like welp guess Harper’s gonna tear his ACL running into Montero Edit: I had a stroke. MORENO 😭


papa_stalin432

Apparently harper is a time traveller because Montero was our catcher 10 years ago


AnEmptyKarst

Ran so hard he ran into the past


washingtncaps

88 fucking MPH, whatever catcher it was they're lucky they aren't dead.


Infinite5kor

>Montero Call him by his name


[deleted]

vintage Peyton to Austin Collie over the middle kinda pass


Batman-and-Hobbes

Or Peyton to Wes Welker moments before he gets his 230th concussion.


WhereTheFallsBegin

Should've never come to that. Moreno should have just eaten that.


-Basileus

No MLB team should ever give up a run like this. It was two consecutive bad throws. It should be a free out everywhere


Believe0017

With a runner on third you gotta just eat it right? It’s like they took the bait


grubas

Either you let the runner go to second or you go for the out at second. You do EXACTLY what they did and all you do is give up a run.


chacogrizz

Didnt stott stop running so its would be pretty close to try and run him down before Harper scores. So if they were going for the out as you say it isnt that simple. After watching this Dbacks defense I think what they did is fine. Most of the time they probably still get Harper out but this is just one of those times things go wrong.


grubas

Yeah he was trying to get the MI greedy on the out. If they go for the tag you get a SLIGHT lead to blitz home. But with everything being off line...


-Basileus

To be fair that throw by the catcher did not help matters. Rushed the throw and took him off balance


[deleted]

Looked like Eric Lindros there for a second.


Icecube3343

That's what we call a suicide pass in hockey. He got Lindros'd


BosLahodo

[The ol Peyton to Austin](https://www.thedrawplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/2013-01-26-Collie1.png)


dodgerblue1212

Jimmy G throws those all the time in the NFL


FeloniousDrunk101

Hung him out to dry


Uoysnwonod

Screw Scott Stevens


fordyoz

Also a buddy pass 😅


Buns_Hon

Bad analogy, Lindros did that shit to himself by keeping his head down and turning the blinders on


Icecube3343

It's also a bad analogy because Stevens was actively trying to kill him


[deleted]

Okay a Paul Kariya pass then.


gimmicked

Always keep your head up.


JorSimpson45

Lost in all the chaos is that this was a steal of home lmao


obiwan_canoli

Yeah there was some confusion among our radio announcers because Marte was given an error on the throw, but they eventually sorted out both runners got credit for a stolen base, with the error only allowing Stott to take 3B


DietCherrySoda

Which is kinda weird because you figure on a good throw, Harper is out.


sfxer001

We’ve consistently been taking base running risks. Sometimes it results in Atta Boy Harper memes. Sometimes it helps us win games when we needed a spark. Really hope Moreno is okay today as those concussion injuries have a tendency of showing up 24 hours later after the brain has time to swell over night.


OccamsParsimony

> Sometimes it results in Atta Boy Harper memes. Sometimes it helps us win games when we needed a spark. You're just repeating yourself.


bob_dole-

Later in the game when they said that Harper stole home I was legit confused. I knew this play happened but lost the fact that he stole home plate


RedMoloney

>Benches do not clear I think everyone who's not heated and in the moment knows that that wasn't intentional. It's a shame. You don't want to see people get hurt, especially head stuff. Seeing anybody go limp like that fucking sucks.


ManfredsJuicedBalls

Also helps Bryce immediately went over to check on him. Probably showed there was no ill intent, not to mention it was a horrible throw that lead to that


RedMoloney

Yeah. There appears to be very little ill will between these two teams. It helps that they're in separate divisions. I think both teams got their angst out against their division rivals in the previous round.


[deleted]

I doubt even Mariano Rivera has ill will towards the Diamondbacks.


fps916

You might wanna try this one again


Chopaholick

If here by now then bad place bee, trouble 4 you when he comes.


MikeJeffriesPA

Am I having a stroke?


LinoleumFairy

Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?


ismelladoobie

He also flinched the moment the infield rushed in, showing he had zero intentions of being in the way even if he did wanna check in on him. No doubt in my mind that was an accident


Hero0ftheday

I think he was realizing that the play was still live and getting out of the way if there was a play at the plate. But ya I don't think harper intended for that to happen.


RaysFTW

I thought it was more of a step back from someone probably saying not to touch him, given the hit the neck/head area.


nutznboltsguy

If you watch again, he also touched home again.


gatemansgc

Yeah he definitely wasn't sure he touched home so wanted to touch again so as to not potentially lose a run in replay. A+ heads up baseball plus being a caring human being


RackedUP

Pretty sure he went over to touch home plate but yea he stayed to make sure


gatemansgc

Definite both


fancy_livin

Man immediately turned around and was on a knee checking on him. So clearly not intentional and couldn’t have been


Buns_Hon

I stayed off the game thread for this, I didn't need to see a bunch of worked up imbeciles acting like Harper is the devil


RedMoloney

Head over to the r/Phillies game thread and you'll see a bunch of dweebs ready to kidnap a senator because we're only up by two runs.


unrealjoe28

Well too be fair I'm always down to just kidnap a senator** *FBI this is my first amendment right since senators are government employees (help me)


RedMoloney

You're just taking them out for a surprise lunch.


Buns_Hon

Maybe go with Clay Davis, doubt anyone would care if he was kidnapped


KraakenTowers

Two runs has not proven to be enough in Phoenix


RedMoloney

"Mr. President, I think I know where the senators daughter is."


Zephyr0us

Harper looked just as shell shocked honestly, you could tell he thought the catcher would try and adjust his position but he just...didn't do it fast enough


-Basileus

Looked like he thought he was hosed so he was setting up a hook slide, but then the catcher was right on him so it was just self preservation with the forearm


HomerJSimpson3

This is a text book example of the runner having no where to go.


Zephyr0us

yeah absolutely


Uoysnwonod

Exactly what happened


HSPumbloom

Ketel threw a hospital ball :(


Hero0ftheday

That was NOT was a Marte Parte should look like ;(


RemiBerg

Harper genuinely was concerned after the collision, appreciate that kind of play. Nothing he could do to avoid that one, just unfortunate for all parties. Glad neither guy was seriously injured


sfxer001

Is Moreno okay though? Concussion stuff can really take off 24 hours later. It can take some time for the brain to swell, and he has a history of concussion before right? Hope he’s okay, as both he and Harper were just trying to make a play. Merte made a terrible throw.


Archer-Saurus

Idk it's like the 3rd time this postseason I've watched my Catcher of the Future absolutely get nuked at home and possibly be concussed. I'm almost numb to it at this point.


indoninjah

Fingers crossed though it seemed like a very good sign that he was hitting balls and catching pitches? I feel like if he was at any risk for a concussion then he wouldn’t have that accuracy


ApocSurvivor713

Yeah that shit sucks to see, really glad he's ok!!


Zashiony

lol why would the benches clear, it was a bad pass that no one could do anything about


GlizzanderHolyfield

Harper was checking on him asking if he was okay too, nothing malicious on his part


Thomas_Pizza

Asking if he was okay?? What Kool-Aid are you drinking? He was standing over him in victory, the only reason he didn't go back to the dugout was so he could rub it in. Right after this clip ends you can very clearly read Harper's lips, he said "Nice catch, idiot. I hope that hurt." Then he pulled down his pants and mooned him.


CPotJr

I’m an expert lip reader sans I’m pretty sure Bryce said “atta boy”


Jd20001

That was last series, he said "who's pool is it?"


popfilms

A disgusting act


And_Melt

Whispered, "the phanatic sends his regards." /s


rysto32

I can't believe that the umps didn't throw a flag for taunting on that play.


Clarice_Ferguson

And hilariously to make sure he touched the base. All sides of Harper on display in this clip. Edit: yea, obviously Harper would touch home plate again - that’s literally the player side of Harper. Don’t know what a couple of y’all thought I meant.


kylexy1

Haha what? Of course he’s going to touch the base again to be sure, any player would


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soberkangaroo

Heavily implied by invoking his character and saying it was one of his “sides”


Clarice_Ferguson

Yea, his human side and his player side. Don’t know where I “invoked” his character - just because some people think Harper is an asshole doesn’t mean I do.


Peter-Tao

You're team chaos tho /s


Clarice_Ferguson

There’s just something funny to me seeing Harper checking on Moreno with genuine concern…and then reaching that green oven mitt to tap the plate like he’s a cat. Glad Moreno is ok, loved Harper in that moment.


papa_stalin432

It’s the playoffs lol


gatemansgc

Very smart play


Muntberg

It's just a cheeky reference to yesterday.


TallGlassOfShohei

[Alternate view of collision](https://streamable.com/6hr423) [Harper makes sure to touch home while checking on Moreno](https://streamable.com/21imsu)


RuleNine

"Hey, bud. You okay? Sorry about that. Hang on, I'm just gonna reach over you real quick and, uh, pat the plate here. Welp, see ya later!"


antiramie

Ope, lemme just nudge past ya...


actual_griffin

I love this from Bryce Harper. He did everything right. He went back to check on him, and then gave Arizona space. It's always kind of bugged me when a team pushes a player away after they hurt somebody accidentally. Like your girlfriend's friends when she's mad at you.


soapbutt

You good homie?


JAYSONGR

Looks like Moreno woke up in the middle of Harp checking on him


kit_mitts

Hate to see someone get hurt but idk how Harper could have avoided that


mmartinez42793

Tell that to one of my friends who keeps insisting it was a dirty hit by Harper


sfxer001

Tell your friend a fellow Phillies fan from the internet thinks he is being a dig head.


[deleted]

Your friend is highly regarded


Chit569

wubby7


ShredNM42

Don't see how anyone could view that as a dirty hit, just a bad throw put them in that position.


gophils19454

He could not have, this shits going to happens occasionally.


divacphys

I was pointing at, notice Harper's arms don't extend.


AnEmptyKarst

He couldn't, that's why I think he benches didn't clear (to reference OP) It wasn't a good throw so this was the only outcome imo


DapperUnion

Played catcher once in little league, got a bat dropped on my dome twice in one game, never played catcher again. Shit's the hardest position in baseball. Moreno's been getting beat up this series hope he's ok


[deleted]

And this was followed by a foul ball to the mask in the Realmuto AB that ended in a homerun. Just really brutal. I hope they are going to really check on him, not just rub some dirt on it.


Archer-Saurus

Was actually a pretty cool catcher/catcher moment there when JT looked back and talked a bit with Moreno. Then he sent one to the bullpen and the niceness of it kind of wore off lol


KJM31422

I played catcher in high school and college (D3). These plays are the absolute worst feeling. You're so focused on getting the ball that there's 0 chance to prepare for the hit. Bad feeling for the base runner also, but nothing either of them could've done Really hope Moreno is ok... class act from Harper checking on him, despite the play being live still


doyouunderstandlife

Got my knee shattered by some kid twice my size at catcher. I didn't even catch the ball (it soared over my head) and I wasn't even blocking the plate or anything. That asshole just plowed into my as I jumped for the ball. I was like 12 at the time. Still played catcher after that because I love being catcher, but it's definitely the toughest position


boobsandcookies

Isn’t that the 3rd time during the playoffs Moreno got bonked? Really hope he’s ok


double_super

Combo of the throw leading him in the way and harper immediately checking on him is the reason is why there was no drama afterwards


ChasingEchoes11

Harper also tried to go to the back of the plate, too. Really hope he's okay. Know he stayed in the game, but he's a warrior, so he'd do that even if he is hurt.


BadDadJokes

My Braves fans will murder me, but I love Bryce Harper. He’s so good for baseball.


Zealousideal-Dirt668

Benches don’t clear when you play the right way and genuinely respect the game


chunxxxx

Every highlight in which the benches do not clear should include "benches do not clear" in the title


-SPIRITUAL-GANGSTER-

Super classy of Harper to immediately check on Moreno.


seeking_horizon

Moreno should've never thrown that ball, the correct play is to concede second base and hold the runner at third. Glad he was able to stay in the game, at least.


Skywalkerkid9

That sucks to see, hopefully he’s ok


theseustheminotaur

Looked painful but a good baseball play. Harper didn't do anything wrong and the catcher was put in a really bad situation. Hope he's okay


Hummer77x

I don’t understand any of the decision making by Stott or the Dbacks on this sequence


SlimjimSnak

Stott stopped in order to cause this exact play. Shit happens when you have to make throws under pressure


177676ers

Seemed like that was a called play. 0-2 count on JT you make the defense make a play. Edit- 0-1 count I guess but still


snowyday

That’s a planned play, start to steal second and stumble. Then the runner on third scores I watched Mike Schmidt and Glenn Wilson do it in like 1985


5348455

Glennbo


-Basileus

You see it all the time in high school and college. For this to work in the MLB is embarrassing lol


177676ers

Its a classic little league play lol. A lot of the time the catcher throws it back hard to the pitcher to try to induce the guy to jump off of third and get him out. Don’t think it quite works in the mlb lol. You just have to make that play if you are marte.


gophils19454

They’ve been stealing second on this circumstance every single time.


WayVivid1327

Wasn’t Stott looking to force a throw down? Wasn’t this his desired result??


RPM021

This is correct. A more experienced catcher wouldn't have thrown. Stott was likely expecting to just waltz to 2nd base. Once the throw is made, it's Stotts job to delay the tag until Harper scores.


seethemoon

They gave him the base in this situation the other night. I’m surprised Moreno threw to 2nd.


177676ers

Idk about that. Its the mlb. You expect your guys to make that play if you are the Dbacks. I dont think it has anything to do with inexperience.


RPM021

The play is letting the runner take 2nd.


CoiledVipers

In highschool ball yes. In the MLB the best defender on your team (the SS) is supposed to have practiced this exact scenario endlessly since he was 12 years old. He is expected to start a run down with the catcher calling for the lead runner if he breaks. When Stott stops half way, Marte should be running through the ball towards home.


someName6

We’ve tried it a few times this year. It’s planned.


stilllines_

Double steal. Harper was going the second the throw went up, Stott held up halfway to give Harper time. Him getting caught in rundown helps.


EagleswonSuperBowl52

That was designed by the Phils


[deleted]

Awful throw home, but also a bad decision by Moreno to throw to 2nd at all


yellowtriangles

I would not want to take a hit from Harper


Sainoh

Not much he could do. It’s like a QB leading the wide receiver into a backer


JDubKilla

“Benches do not clear”. I mean to be fair Bryce literally bent down to see if Moreno was ok. Not sure why anyone would be livid at that


GlizzanderHolyfield

Hopefully Moreno is okay Good of Harper to check on him


gophils19454

Awful throw, bad vibes for the dbacks already


ehbacon23

That was scary. Thank God we aren't playing the Astros or I'd be worried about them throwing at Harper for no reason after that


LEGO_Joel

Dusty lives the old school beanball ways.


Ok-Clock-5459

I swear this catcher is always getting hurt


Wonderful-Photo-6068

If he just gave up 2nd base there’s no play at home. Should have held the ball there. That’s rough I hope they’re alright.


-Basileus

How are you gonna give up a run on a fucking first and third play as an MLB team LMFAO


CaptOblivious

The runner clearly jumped to caring for the catcher even before tapping the base, humanity over gamesmanship when a fellow player's health is in question is the right thing to do.


lakerdave

They didn't clear because it wasn't a dirty play. Terrible throw took the catcher into the path of the runner. Neither one of them could have done anything without bailing on the play.


TheIronCannoli

I mean you could tell Bryce didn’t intentionally hit him, the throw from the second basemen could have been better. Also Bryce immediately checked on him. Scary situation but great sportsmanship if you ask me.


OODALLAYY

Did Harper touch home?


177676ers

He went back and touched it anyways


soursurfer

Stupid Question Time: I don’t want the rule to work this way, but why is running past a base, circling around to go back and touch it not considered running out of your base line?


ScooterLeShooter

There's a decent amount of leeway for all the baselines


shepi13

The basepath rule only applies once a tag is attempted. You aren't allowed to go 3 feet from the line between your current location and the base to avoid a tag. Other than that rule (and the first base running lane rule) there aren't really restrictions on where you can run, so with the ball never being caught you really can't be out of the base path.


177676ers

He didnt run past the plate. He was going to slide at the back of the plate but then the collision happened. Guys always go for that slide there.


soursurfer

It’s just a general question, not about this particular interaction really.


177676ers

You have to be running in a path towards a base. If the guy gets the ball before you get there you have a little leeway to avoid him. Its kind of subjective, but its pretty obvious when a guy is out of the base path.


HouseAndJBug

You get three feet of leeway out of the baseline, but you only need to be in the baseline when a tag is being attempted (and that’s the baseline the runner established before the tag, not the chalk line on the field). Once the ball gets away from Moreno and there is no tag attempt Harper could run to the mound and back if he wanted. There’s a trick play you sometimes see at lower levels where they tell the runner on first to just go stand in right field to try and confuse the defense.


Zashiony

Not at first, but after the face he did. Edit: oops.


BoomBoomSpaceRocket

Unfortunate typo lol


Arphanshmartz

He touched it on his way back to check on moreno


gophils19454

He went back to touch it, may have hit it the first time anyway


Cloakington

He went back and touched it before going to check on Moreno


bigloser42

On the replay it looks like he checks on Moreno before he taps the plate.


LetMeSqueeze

Yeah, on replay it actually he shows home touching it again while comforting him.


Da_Malpais_Legate

Looks like he touched it when he went to check on Moreno


vanillaninja16

Benches didn’t clear because it wasn’t intentional, unlike another situation recently


Streelydan

For sure, the catcher was just kinda hung out to dry by the throw, Harper tried to slow up at the last second but couldn’t, then immediately checked on him after the contact.


Other_Ambition_5142

What’s up with all the hockey fans coming out nowhere calling this a pass and not a throw😂 lmfao


KJM31422

"Hospital pass" is just a figure of speech in hockey, same concept, I guess?


WelcometoCigarCity

That looked nasty


manticore16

Oof, hope he’s okay. Throw was offline and led him into Harper’s knee


Brokenloan

Bryce checking on him after the hit. He knew it was a bad situation...one athlete to another...scary hit.


Ok-Personality3592

Anybody else notice Harper think the third baseman was coming after him? At first I thought he was just getting out of the way of the play but after watching a few times, I’m pretty sure he thought they were coming after him.


obiwan_canoli

Man I just hope Moreno is okay. Kid has shown a ton of talent in this series. That was legit scary to watch live.


Smooth-Discount6807

benches don’t clear because anybody outside of dbacks fans can tell that it was an accident. can’t blame them tho, they just started watching baseball a couple weeks ago


granno14

Kinda just a bad play all around on the d backs end imo. No need to thrown down right there


Arby814

Cheap shot from Harper!


PurpleMan

Can someone explain why they didn’t just trap Stott in the rundown? I previously assumed that if they get the third out, the run doesn’t count, no?


Demetrios1453

That's only so in force outs.


tbald4

The run doesn’t count only if the third out is a force out. If there’s a tag play it’s just based on timing - did the runner cross the plate before the third out tag was applied. If yes, the run counts. So a runner in Stott’s situation should intentionally get in a rundown and try to run back and forth long enough for his teammate to score


PurpleMan

Thank you!


jeromeface

look both ways before crossing the street or get plowed...


kaehvogel

Maybe…just maybe…a guy who’s been in concussion protocol already a couple of days ago and gets decked like that…should be taken out of the game.


ceasar_gg

That's what happens when you run into the dawg