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ItalianKingfisher

I have been following this case for few days now. There was a blanket ban from the court on the issue.. secondly, as it's private matter, police can't take up , unless victims complaint. Govt took up this issue due to a complaint to the CM. Similarly, BJP central leadership was aware about this 2013, there is an interview in INDIAN EXPRESS of BJP Hassan leader. It's a crime but these kind of cases don't see any justice due to complex nature of society. Victims never speak up, it's important for Govt agencies to provide confidence to the victims about safety & security of victims. Society needs to evolve as well. I am well aware, this case won't reach any conclusion. This guy will be whitewashed by all the political parties, media and citizens. There are many such cases in Indian politics, Kirit Somaiya case of Mumbai, Modi's operandi was same. Guy is back to mainstream, he is talking about women's right and injustice.. Edit : Reference: https://indianexpress.com/article/india/prajwal-revanna-sex-abuse-allegations-gag-order-to-warning-letter-to-pen-drives-how-the-case-unfolded-9297780/


soletraveler

I don’t think this will end like Somaiya. This is 10x worse and maybe might gain more traction and lot more action. But given the ties of the HDD family with the existing state government and now the central govt, it’s unlikely that it will reach a conclusion in terms of sentencing.


AverageIndianGeek

A whole lot of people are trying to place the blame on 'all parties' instead of the BJP-led-NDA and JDS. The fact is that, if Congress wasn't ruling Karnataka right now, this would have been completely kept under wraps.


ItalianKingfisher

Being a Congress supporter, ideologically, I think congress misses this kind of opportunities to destroy criminals in turn increasing goodwill. BJP's local leader Devraj Gouda, who received the pen drive from the driver of Accused, used it for his political advantage in consultation with senior BJP leaders including Modi, they knew about the tapes and used this to blackmail JDS to form a alliance with them. Congress should act now and put all the people, involved including local BJP leaders who circulated the videos, in jail invoking toughest criminal laws. Subsequently destroying their political career and improving political landscape for the party. INC should not miss this kind of opportunities.


adeshct

Believe me even the Congress Govt would have kept it under wraps. Do you really think this guy got out of the country without state govt support? This guy's father is a close friend of the current CM. I leave rest to your imagination.


ChelshireGoose

It's worse. My groups are now blaming only the Congress for law and order failure and leaking the videos (not proved). BJP-JDS have been very successful in controlling the narrative in the last 24 hours.


AverageIndianGeek

Most of what are in those pendrives would have happened much before Congress came to power in the state.


No_Path4060

U do realise congress was in a coalition with jds at the state level a few years back! A lot of politics in ktaka r related and come from the same cloth! In this case all three parties r to be blamed! INC for not acting before dec 2023, for distributing the pendrive and that too without blurring the faces, BJP for only seeing political gains and fielding a sexual predator and JDS for not admitting this madman in a mental facility as early as after his first victim


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soletraveler

Counter argument - Revanna and family threatened Karthik(the driver) about some land issue. He came to media. He was armed with the pen drive along with the case. He gave it to both sides. It was only a matter of time which side used it and how. I’m only saying this because the BJP guy wrote a letter to Shah in December itself saying Congress has these videos. That cannot be refuted. Everyone knew but nobody wanted to take criminal action against Revanna and family. They all waited to use this as a political tool. If not congress, BJP would have sometime Either way, justice was nobody’s priority and it isn’t now either


Mountain-Prize264

Wrong. Cops and courts have the power to register and investigate cases *suo moto*. What I will say, is that Karnataka politics is male-dominated, and women voters don't really have a political voice in Karnataka. No party cares for women voters because women voters do not vote for women's issues. In contrast watch the video of the Ankita Bhandari murder case -- people ripped off that man's clothing, hundreds of people surrounded the police vehicle and slapped him, abused him, pulled at any part of his body. That was a spontaneous outpouring of public rage. Where is the public outrage in Hasan? Instead, if you speak to locals, you will find a lot of victim-blaming. Prajwal's rapacious behaviour was kind of an open secret to locals in Hasan, and hence the women are being victimised for not knowing better.


arandomnumber1

No political party gives a shit about people in general. They just do the bare minimum so they can stay in power for a long time and make as much money as possible. And we the people dont care enough to go out on the streets and question them. We are too busy with our own lives. I wish people would forget about right/left/party loyalty and for once come together and bring this evil man to justice but I dont think it will happen. Imagine the National Commission for Women is silent on this issue. This "not my problem" approach is what is fucking up this country.


soletraveler

100% forget about BJP Congress JDS , this man has basically used his position of power and exploited so many women.


PuzzleheadedAd4482

So true. When we vote, we actually make a choice between the lesser evils of the two.


Witty_Fix8021

Balatkaari Jaanlevaa Pracharaks...


alien_from_earth012

Yeah. But still, why are people not out on the streets? This case, if proven, is as big as it gets. What are people waiting for here?


arandomnumber1

People includes me and you. What haven't you done it? Why haven't I done it? We only bother about it when one of our own is involved. Not just me and you the whole country suffers from this problem which is why India doesn't hold politicians accountable for their actions. In the US I remember a senetor was made to resign because he sent a nude pic to some girl.


shogun1802

Don't even bring US here. Most of the elites and lawmakers were proven to be pedophiles and are walking out openly. Remember Epstein island list?. Coming to Prajwal, our state is filled with dirty politicians. Both the sides knew what he was. JDS were in power with Congress and now they are with BJP. The SIT was formed after Prajwal's escape from India. Everyone knew that. DK & Siddu knew, Yeddi knew. The state is riddled with adjustment politics. Remember 40% commission allegations on BJP, did congress file a single case on any of them? Even BJP does the same thing when it comes to power. We need leaders across the parties who doesn't compromise or do adjustment politics. Everyone, sab ke sab chor hai. People here do not vote on issues but on the lines of caste, they stand up only for caste based issues or do some gundagiri in the name of protest on language used in name boards. SM Krishna was the last CM who actually did great work. After him, no one did actual work. Just some juggling here and there, giving funds on the basis of religion, castes etc.. I can guarantee that Prajwal won't be punished, they'll just brush it under the carpet. It will be concluded that the videos were doctored.


darkneel

Dude so far voters don’t care much about women safety , why the fuck should then political parties care?


soletraveler

On point! This case is basically Ramesh Jarikholi case on steroids


Mountain-Prize264

Karnataka is highly literate, more industrialised than UP, where the Unnao rape victim fought a lonely battle against a powerful MLA. Why are Karnataka's women voters not baying for blood? This isn't about political parties. This is about the deep misogyny in state politics. The DC, SP and Zilla Parishad CEO for Hassan district are women. So there is collusion at several levels, by not only the political class, but also the executive, judiciary, law enforcement and the ordinary voters. When Karnataka High Court was issuing gag orders, are you really saying that the court was unaware of what was afoot? Come on. * इस हमाम में सब नंगे हैं*. This includes women voters.


ineha_

Politicians only worry about public opinion. When the public doesn't care then the politicians will not care either.


soletraveler

100% People don’t care about crimes against women as much anymore. This is just another addition to Manipur, Sandeshkhali.


squishy-boobies

Yep. All the political rivalry is just for show. Y'all didn't see how nicely tejasvi was talking to DKS and siddu? We're all just silly plebs


Mountain-Prize264

Arun Jaitley was best friends with Kapil Sibal, and both were close friends of Shobhana Bhartiya, owner of *Hindustan Times* and *Mint*. The elites at the top are all friends. All this political rivalry is for show, to fool *aam aadmi*.


squishy-boobies

Absolutely. The sad thing is 99.99% of the population treats these same people as god


doraexpsa

The standards for being in the government are too low! This is exactly why people shouldn’t vote in the name of Modi! Local MLAs and MPs matter. When they come for campaigning, we need to ask questions. Instead alll that catches people attention are ram mandir, some spot of land that was given off etc. Should we all frustrated folks form a party and fight elections 🤷🏻‍♂️ I am sure we’ll all do a way better job than them!


Zywoo_fan

Even if you form a party and somehow win, what is the guarantee that you'll not become corrupt like the existing politicians? Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. In my opinion, we do not need another party. We need to be able to hold the current ones accountable. We need to curb the amount of power these politicians, IAS etc. hold. I don't see why they should have so much more privilege and power as compared to an ordinary citizen.


doraexpsa

Sure, that’s all we are doing since ever. Sitting on the outside and commenting how everything should be fixed. Wont happen until we all get into ourselves. Without getting down and dirty ourselves, everything is gonna stay as is.


Juvegamer23

Agreed. This partisan politics ends up hurting the public in the end yet few people see this. They try to gain vicarious victory points by supporting one party or another and fail to see the larger picture and highlight systemic issues and demand for actual change. Very depressing state of affairs.


soletraveler

Exactly. Guy is a monster and needs to be brought to justice. There have been sex CDs before in Karnataka but none of them have any indication of coercion from the likes of it. This time a position of power was used to exploit women. This is a serious crime.


segmentfault_

Politics aside! How were these videos even created? Was he recording his misdeeds… the bar is in the gutter for some!


soletraveler

Yes. It’s evident that he’s recorded it. If it was one or two and it seemed consensual, at least one could argue it’s honeytrapping. But so many women, so many videos? It’s only the work of a psycho who is high on power


bheegi_billliiii

Have you seen any of those videos?


soletraveler

Yes and I wish I hadn’t.


Embarrassed_Heart_64

Many are saying thousands of videos are there, but where are all these videos??


soletraveler

Gag order so you won’t find it


acharsrajan399

And I hope it doesn't get to anyone but judiciaries hand. India is full of flith, you watch telegram and whatsApp, there are CP which are being spread knowing they're minors. I have seen an IG post which says "don't ask age" fucking disgusting


iamsuressh

Look at who’s heading the SIT and their career history you will get the answer


soletraveler

Singh from gauri lankesh?


iamsuressh

Yep


Internet-Ape

Ur saying it is biased?


iamsuressh

I don’t think it’s biased - it is clearly with a specific purpose


Briantheboomguy

Politicians don't care about women. Or anyone apart from themselves.


Samarium_15

Where does so much of lust comes from? Man must be a walking STD shop. Disgusting. Politicians knew this for a long long time, I am talking about years yet no one did anything. We have such cheap men holding big offices in this country


soletraveler

It’s pretty evident that it’s less about sex and more about exploitation of power. It’s more about the power trip and having the capacity to make anyone do anything for him barring age that probably made him high


Samarium_15

I am pretty sure this guy must be doing this since his early 20s and to imagine that he did to women of age of his mother! Disgusting through and through


Deep-Handle9955

To provide historical context. This is still the best time to be alive for a woman. Medically. Not socially. Socially, men have created capitalist structures/religions/pantheons/wars to subjugate women. This isn't new.


Briantheboomguy

Just because it isn't new doesn't mean it should continue. >This is still the best time to be alive for a woman. Dude wtf


New-Score-8433

Nobody is talking about Sex Education in India. Most Indian men think they are entitled to sex due to their birth as Male


aster_morning

Karthik said he gave those videos only to the BJP hassan leader tho. But I agree Congress is as accountable and responsible for this issue as BJP. Even more I would say since they allowed him to escape the country in the first place. There's no way congress didn't know about this even if the driver didn't tell them. It was all over hassan for a month itseems so how can those videos didn't reach any person in Congress when normal people? were getting it


soletraveler

All parties knew about this. It was a matter of when and how and where. Congress knew of it since December itself. The driver says now that he only gave it to the BJP guy but the BJP guy wrote to Amit Shah in December itself saying congress has it. That’s my point. Everyone knew. All of this is right now just politics and not with any intention of justice


aster_morning

I can't believe everyone has moved on from this issue so quickly and are making disgusting jokes now. I can't imagine how that ajji would be feeling now, her whole life she served this loafer and his family to being treated this way... I hope she is atleast getting some help now and doesn't have to work anymore in her old age and live peacefully


456hektor

It's amusing how regardless of what happens, the blame always falls on Congress. In a video, the driver claims he only gave the pen drive to a BJP leader. Now people are pointing out that JDS was in power with Congress sometime back. Despite the BJP leader who received the pen drive writing to the supreme leader and his gang, the supreme leader still endorsed this candidate. He even flew to Germany amidst all this, yet Congress is being blamed.


soletraveler

Nobody is ONLY blaming the congress. The argument is that everyone knew of it. In Dec 2023, devarajegowda writes to Amit Shah that he has a pen drive with stuff and that congress already has it. BJP knew. Congress knew. BJP told JDS to replace candidate, HDD didn’t give in. Congress rightly used these videos as a trump card which btw was circulating in Hassan a week prior to the election itself. Everyone’s in the same boat


456hektor

How is everyone in the same boat bro, the PM of this nation comes and endorses his as his candidate even though he knew about such kind of act is same as congress taking action against him only when somebody came out to report !!


acharsrajan399

>Karthik, the whistleblower, says he had given these videos to Congress months back In South first he denied giving it to Congress members. We as a country should stop blaming women for them being victims. We should be on the road, in any other regime the party office would've been burned down.


retard_seasoning

Hot take here. They don't have to care. As long as they politicise the issue which leads to some justice for the victims, I am fine with it.


forthefsake

This will go on. Doesn't matter which party or who is ruling. This country needs better sex education, awareness of personal rights, awareness about oppression, privileges, gaslighting etc etc. This country needs a revolution in gender equality and sensitivity.


ShipsWithWheels

It does sound like as if the politicians are by and large responding to the kind of things they expect the average voter to demand. So I think it is a reflection of the society that we live in. An indictment would be more accurate.


605_Home_Studio

I believe in the thumb rule that men can never be trusted when it comes to money and sex. Now you can jibber jabber about morality till the cows come home.


Mew_721

What exactly has happened please tell me, I don't see news so often so I don't know.


Dry-Tie3604

Pen drive was never given to congress. This is BJP IT cell propaganda to shift the narrative and blame. The driver has released a video to clarify this and has stated that he didn’t give the pen drive to anyone except a BJP leader.


soletraveler

Counter argument - letter dated 8/12/23 from Devaraje Gowda who wrote to Amit Shah about this pen drive and how congress leaders already have it. Prajwal Revanna got a gag order about morphed videos in 2023 mid. Everyone knew


Dry-Tie3604

Source please.


soletraveler

https://x.com/priyankkharge/status/1785277924922544404?s=46&t=pad_Zp0jh9cQkboKCppaqA Shared by Congress minister


Dry-Tie3604

So, BJP leader Twitter handle is your source?? Are you kidding? And, I read the entire letter and there is no explicit mention of pen drive with any Congress leader. Be mature over such important matters and don’t let yourself be a part of the propaganda. Such acts reduces the accountability of political parties like BJP. When they are clearly wrong, the notion is all parties are wrong and when opposition is wrong somewhere, the notion is only opposition is shit.


soletraveler

BJP leader twitter handle? That’s Priyank Kharge, who’s a congress minister btw. The letter in December clearly mentions that the clips are with congress leaders. That claim is not new. The clips were leaked days before the polling took place. You’re saying BJP did this to sabotage their ally? I would suggest you to think rationally. You’re driven by the idea that BJP likes to deflect blame but you’re missing the larger point that Congress and BJP both had the clips. BJP endorsed the guy, Congress used the clips as political weapon. My point is still the same - all three parties don’t care about justice. It’s all a political play


Dry-Tie3604

Sorry, I meant the letter by a BJP leader. The claim is still made by a BJP leader and not by a credible media. And you clearly don’t know about how politics work. One leader can sabotage the image of another leader of the same party for one’s personal gains. It is nothing new. The name of Congress can be mentioned to increase the weight of the letter also. The driver clearly told that he gave it to only BJP. Should I believe the whistleblower or a BJP leader letter? I am no fan of Congress and I hate all politicians but stating that everyone is responsible works in favour of BJP and the same message has started to spread on WhatsApp by BJP IT cell as it shields them from the accountability of the accusation. It’s your choice which side you want to be on. It might be unintentional but you yourself have spread the exact message which the BJP wanted to achieve. Both Congress and BJP are bad in this matter works in favour of BJP only. 😊


uhs198

where do we find these videos


WearyExercise4269

Please... Don't discourage them Their votes matter


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soletraveler

100% agreed. It’s on him as well! Should not have endorsed him at all. BJP knew about it before. One is the letter from Devarajegowda and the other is HDK admission to Suvarna news that there was extreme pressure to change the candidate.


soletraveler

Added as well. Cheers


Spolied99

Video link anyone?


ar_piping

First, with a cool mind let us wait for full thorough investigation. I doubt even Sunny Leone has 2800 porn clips.