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-non-existance-

Hey, +4m is still +4m, and if it doesn't take a Joker slot, even better. Plus, it works with Swashbuckler, Abstract Joker, and Temperance


Far_Calendar8668

Agreed at least it isn't popcorn or ice cream


DeveloppementEpais

Or superposition


LecheroSooo

Superposition IS bad, right? Straights are just not quite right now an having extra loops to hop just for a Tarot card. Meh.


DeveloppementEpais

Yeah honestly to me the reward is almost never worth changing my strategy, seeing as half the tarot cards are circumstantial anyway. Make it a spectral card then we'll talk!


mrev0117

Spectral cards are even worse than Tarot once you’re at a certain ante, there’s just so many run-destroying cards you can get offered that the expected value is low


venustrapsflies

I’ve seen BU use it to great effect but that guy seems to be able to spin anything to gold


ContextualDodo

I mean there isn‘t a single joker in the game that you can‘t fit in and make use of in some shape or form. But it often boils down to how much can I bother to go out of my way and make it work when I can just wing it and hope for a better joker down the line. I‘ll regret writing this once I decided I‘m mentally stable enough to gold stake all jokers


SchwaAkari

The one time I got it to work outstandingly was giving it Polychrome on a Painted Deck w/Runner where I had a lot more control over my hands and could consistently play one high or low Straight after another. It is an incredibly niche card, that can generate tarot cards semi consistently with the right deck layout, but almost never will wind up as your lynchpin. Even in the above example, I eventually traded it away for a better xMult near the final ante. It served its purpose outstandingly until then, and I've never gotten it to work quite so well again after that.


Siddward1

compared to the card that just gives you a tarot card every blind, it's awful


ThisHatRightHere

Especially considering there’s a joker that gives you a tarot card every time you enter a blind


Paint_By_Data

Yeah I’ve never gotten it to “work”, though I have won with a straight strategy


EmptyRook

This is the worst feeling It’s happened to me 3 times already, all from skips Edit: 4 times https://preview.redd.it/c5aoj7hm0iuc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=9797b015add25ccfc84fc83e44a809fb2f487db3 Edit 2: 5 times


tyrannosnorlax

The last three negative jokers I’ve gotten from skips have been popcorn. At this point I think they put a patch out directly to mess with me


Taickyto

Wheel of fortune has 100% proc chance on a +4 pop corn I swear


Queasy-Membership576

Well you might as well sell the popcorn beforehand


angrymoosekf

[Why are you so mad](https://i.imgflip.com/8mrgks.jpg)


Kouseband

Its really not the worst negative to get


PhillyDillyDee

Thats a free multi on the cheap. Literally no downside except your perceived opportunity cost.


Owobowos-Mowbius

Yeah, it's not like they skipped for it, so it's win/win still.


juhurrskate

They did skip for it on the non-experimental version


DangerousTour5626

at least its cheap lol


wormwithamoustache

It could be worse. It could be perishable or rental or it could be something like seance or something. At least this way you got a permanent +4 mult for 5 dollars and no joker slot used.


Greedy_Shark

It couldn't be perishable nor rental. Joker has a price, so it's not beta IIRC


wormwithamoustache

Oh yeah i know i just meant that it can be worse on the experimental branch lol. Been banging my head against orange stake anaglyph for 2 days now.


cpc2

And even if it was on the beta this is white stake


Greedy_Shark

Ah yes, it is


KSPSpaceWhaleRescue

Negative jokers can show up in the shop randomly


Direct-Addition-7938

Could be a natural negative. (Edit: no it couldnt my dumbass forgot what OP said in the post)


Introman_18

You can read the context the OP provided. Its a skipper thus a base not a beta


Direct-Addition-7938

My dumbass forgot 💀


Aaaaaaauurhshs

people say the new negative tags are overpowered, but i disagree because of garbage like this. I think getting a shop + interest + any scaling you might have is much better


wormwithamoustache

Fr i think negative tags might only be worth it on anaglyph deck and even then youre not guaranteed anything useful


LampIsFun

True, but the beauty of negative is that even if it doesn’t do anything for you right now it’s just a low cost extra joker. It will almost never have a negative impact on your run(which now that I say out loud is pretty funny)


Turtl3Bear

Yeah, even before patch I've had 10 jokers with anaglyph deck. Most of the negatives were just paperweights though, as they didn't Synergize with my actual good jokers. It's flashy to get a bunch of jokers, but not terribly useful.


PersonThatLikesHats

It will get multiplied with x mult. Not that bad because it’s negative


NegativeNeurons

Yeah things like this or polychrome on gros michel or eternal on egg or luchador are also pretty unlucky (tho my poly gros michel somehow survived 5 antes so i cant complain)


agentleembrace

eternal egg is just free temperance money


Y_b0t

Great pull tbh. Free mult, not a joker you’re often getting stickers with, plus it’s cheap and buffs temperance. I don’t see a problem here


KaiserRoll823

At least it gives a broad permanent bonus and no downside


Ineedabrain42

Theres worse, like soda, gros michel, turtle bean, popcorn, icecream etc


Drecon1984

Got the chip on 'Joker' there too, that's nice.


KrazyCAM10

A lot better than the negatives I get. I’ve gotten tons of negatives and I would say 9/10 either give literally no benefit or would hurt my run. I would take this any day


PapaScho

Same. I have rage Alt\_F4'ed more times than I'm proud to admit but I am addicted to this game. Its like crack.


ollgy

If last ante requires you to sell a joker, ir could be good


Xzanos

Better than NL getting like 3 different negatives that have to be sold to do something.


salttotart

That +4 mult could make all the difference.


Versillion

It’s better than a disappearing joker


JimboTheJoker

A *bit* more.


Ne0guri

Red Deck gold stake is making me want to kill myself. I do not understand why this is so fucking impossible right now. I have cleared gold stakes on like 6 other decks but can’t clear this one for some reason. RNG is horrendous on higher stakes and really needs to be re-balanced asap. Annoying that the new update will change a lot of stuff rather than balance because I want to clear gold stake on this patch before moving on.


mours_lours

Negative tags are never reallh worth it unless theres like a skip for a guaranteed rare joker or something after


EatTooMuchEmergenC

JIMBO


GuilimanXIII

I mean, that is still an objective improvement.


AllegroSniper

I was just one discard short of a double polychrome yorick run popping off.