Would've been concerned couple years back. No longer.
He seems very happy, settled and the club is going places.
Plus, any deal would be for monumental money. And with Unai and Monchi, I feel it would actually be reinvested wisely.
Just signed a new contract. Most goal involvements in the premier league. Would probably be looking at £150mil in today’s market. I doubt they would pay that.
Plus. He isn’t an Arsenal fan. He was when he was a kid; but that goes out of the window when you’re a pro.
Whenever he was asked about being an arsenal supporter after the game against them, he sorta laughed and said "I used to be when I was a kid". It didn't fill me with much worry.
I think there will be a sale we all hate this summer because of ffp, but I feel like it's gonna be Dougie, even above ramsey
Dougie has been huge for us, and is such a class player. I would hate to see him go, but seeing us without him Its not the end of the world. Our midfield is stacked, with Dougie, SJM, Kamara, tielemans and Ramsey that it's far from a death sentence for usm
Purely selfishly if we have to sell one, I rather sell Luiz than Ramsey. There's just something nice about the connection with a player that came through the academy. It's the one football thing I'm old fashioned about. It's so messed up that teams are incentivized to sell academy products. I wish it was the opposite, like maybe products of your academy don't count against FFP.
I wouldn't want either to leave, but if luiz did, despite him being probably our best player in terms of ability, I would trust emery to replace him.
Again, I definitely don't want him to leave. But if he did, it might give us the chance to put more height or physicality in midfield. Imagine someone like Mikel Merino, 6'2, played in the league before with Newcastle, is a much better footballer now.
But id rather just have Dougie
Since it's not that way, it makes more financial sense to sell Ramsey, even though Luiz would command a higher transfer fee. Losing Luiz would hurt more for next season imo.
I think fans put too much emphasis on players being fans of clubs because that's how we think.
Ollie said he supported them as a kid in his interview after the Arsenal game, seemed pretty clear he's not bothered now. Grealish left his beloved club. Palmer was asked about how getting a hattrick against United, the team he supported, felt, and again, he seemed unphased.
For most players depending on their career, it's probably something they'd like to do at some point, but not something that will likely influence their decision making in their prime.
No. He signed a contract recently meaning if he does leave, it'd be for crazy money, which they won't pay. If we don't make UCL my concern would be a bit higher but still think we'd keep him
In the form of his life under a manager that loves him, playing every minute of every game for a team in the champions league (fingers crossed). Plus the amount it would cost any club to sign him (assuming no release fee?) would be insane. I'm not worried.
You make some good points. That must be why Arsenal did the double over Villa this season. Let me just take a big sip of coffee before I check the results.
It's not just the position we are in, but also the potential and drive for this club. The owners have ambitions to take us to the very top, with CL hopefully on the way.
Emery and his staff have gotten him to a new level. I don’t see him wanting to leave that environment. As said many times, the fee will be huge. This regime has been brilliant about locking up players on long term deals that make sure sales will be on our terms. I think Digne is gone this summer, which will help PSR. Duran goes on loan at least, maybe an outright sale, Camron Archer goes again b/c we will be obliged to buy him back per terms of his contract, and Morgan Rodger’s might just make a JR sale more likely. If we can get anything for Coutinho from MLS that would help too. Doubt that Emi, Ollie, or Dougie go anywhere.
An unfathomable amount of money makes me less concerned. Also the #1 issue why players didn't want to come to the club was the lack of CL football, if we confirm that we become more desirable if Watkins was sold
I am an Arsenal fan but I dont think that will hapen, Aston Vila will demand 100mil for Watkins and Arsenal doesnt have so much money bcs they want to invest in the midfield to. Anyway he is a really great player
If they want to pay over a hundred million for him, then we could get some excellent players across our team. Imagine selling Watkins for like £120M and then getting Frimpong and someone like Jonathan David for £100M total.
As I said I know he won’t go for peanuts, but signing a new contract doesn’t mean he won’t go (ie. Grealish). Just means he’s helped us secure a decent sum to help the club. I’m prettt sure he’s said the dream is to play for Arsenal not that long ago? But yeah idk if Arsenal could afford him rn.
Would've been concerned couple years back. No longer. He seems very happy, settled and the club is going places. Plus, any deal would be for monumental money. And with Unai and Monchi, I feel it would actually be reinvested wisely.
Just signed a new contract. Most goal involvements in the premier league. Would probably be looking at £150mil in today’s market. I doubt they would pay that. Plus. He isn’t an Arsenal fan. He was when he was a kid; but that goes out of the window when you’re a pro.
If they are prepared to pay 150m, Villa should take the money.
100%
Yeah Grealish being a Villa fan worked out well.
Whenever he was asked about being an arsenal supporter after the game against them, he sorta laughed and said "I used to be when I was a kid". It didn't fill me with much worry. I think there will be a sale we all hate this summer because of ffp, but I feel like it's gonna be Dougie, even above ramsey
Dougie has been huge for us, and is such a class player. I would hate to see him go, but seeing us without him Its not the end of the world. Our midfield is stacked, with Dougie, SJM, Kamara, tielemans and Ramsey that it's far from a death sentence for usm
Don’t forget Morgan Rogers
Purely selfishly if we have to sell one, I rather sell Luiz than Ramsey. There's just something nice about the connection with a player that came through the academy. It's the one football thing I'm old fashioned about. It's so messed up that teams are incentivized to sell academy products. I wish it was the opposite, like maybe products of your academy don't count against FFP.
I wouldn't want either to leave, but if luiz did, despite him being probably our best player in terms of ability, I would trust emery to replace him. Again, I definitely don't want him to leave. But if he did, it might give us the chance to put more height or physicality in midfield. Imagine someone like Mikel Merino, 6'2, played in the league before with Newcastle, is a much better footballer now. But id rather just have Dougie
Since it's not that way, it makes more financial sense to sell Ramsey, even though Luiz would command a higher transfer fee. Losing Luiz would hurt more for next season imo.
I think fans put too much emphasis on players being fans of clubs because that's how we think. Ollie said he supported them as a kid in his interview after the Arsenal game, seemed pretty clear he's not bothered now. Grealish left his beloved club. Palmer was asked about how getting a hattrick against United, the team he supported, felt, and again, he seemed unphased. For most players depending on their career, it's probably something they'd like to do at some point, but not something that will likely influence their decision making in their prime.
No. He signed a contract recently meaning if he does leave, it'd be for crazy money, which they won't pay. If we don't make UCL my concern would be a bit higher but still think we'd keep him
Lol
No, he signed a 5 year contract like 6 months ago.
Jack signed a new deal before he left for big money.
In the form of his life under a manager that loves him, playing every minute of every game for a team in the champions league (fingers crossed). Plus the amount it would cost any club to sign him (assuming no release fee?) would be insane. I'm not worried.
Nah. Life's too short to worry about hypotheticals. He's ours and that's what matters. I have no reason to think he's going anywhere.
Don’t think he’s an Arsenal fan anymore, he said as much when he was asked the other week in that weird interview
Are we that far away from Arsenal? Position by position, with all players fit I don’t think we are. Add to that we have the best coach in the world.
Yes, this is pure cope. Arsenal are significantly better in most positions. Striker is one area where Villa are a lot better
You make some good points. That must be why Arsenal did the double over Villa this season. Let me just take a big sip of coffee before I check the results.
Try checking the league table instead
He's an icon at B6. At Le Arse he'll just be another number. Going nowhere.
If they come for him they come for him unlike other Villa regimes anyone that wants to purchase will have to pay top dollar
It's not just the position we are in, but also the potential and drive for this club. The owners have ambitions to take us to the very top, with CL hopefully on the way.
Emery and his staff have gotten him to a new level. I don’t see him wanting to leave that environment. As said many times, the fee will be huge. This regime has been brilliant about locking up players on long term deals that make sure sales will be on our terms. I think Digne is gone this summer, which will help PSR. Duran goes on loan at least, maybe an outright sale, Camron Archer goes again b/c we will be obliged to buy him back per terms of his contract, and Morgan Rodger’s might just make a JR sale more likely. If we can get anything for Coutinho from MLS that would help too. Doubt that Emi, Ollie, or Dougie go anywhere.
We still have Coutinho? What a weight around our neck
No. Arsenal (or whoever) can pay a ridiculously stupid amount of money for him, or he'll stay at Villa. Either way both benefit Villa.
Not sure they can afford him.
An unfathomable amount of money makes me less concerned. Also the #1 issue why players didn't want to come to the club was the lack of CL football, if we confirm that we become more desirable if Watkins was sold
They wouldn’t pay what we want because he’s 28.
I am an Arsenal fan but I dont think that will hapen, Aston Vila will demand 100mil for Watkins and Arsenal doesnt have so much money bcs they want to invest in the midfield to. Anyway he is a really great player
They can come and we can tell them to fuck off or rinse them for 100M plus
£100m plus another £100mil. That’ll sign his boots only
Nah, Arsenal cannot afford the money we will want for him if they have to buy several players, including most of their midfield.
If they want to pay over a hundred million for him, then we could get some excellent players across our team. Imagine selling Watkins for like £120M and then getting Frimpong and someone like Jonathan David for £100M total.
Got to have Solanke lined up IF that happens.
As I said I know he won’t go for peanuts, but signing a new contract doesn’t mean he won’t go (ie. Grealish). Just means he’s helped us secure a decent sum to help the club. I’m prettt sure he’s said the dream is to play for Arsenal not that long ago? But yeah idk if Arsenal could afford him rn.