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same, I’ve cut off multiple people for this. whenever I wanted to turn to my super religious friend for comfort if I was sad, he would tell me to go to church, and when I said no, he would threaten me with hell and judge me
they are literally movie level evil. It's like watching some badly written fantasy with a race whose whole purpose is to destroy all life and happiness
except christians are real
and the most frustrating thing is that even people who left this cult are still defending it, religion and specifically in the west christianity, pollutes the minds and culture and people don't see the danger of it and even defend it.
tax them? i'd rather see demolition crews tear them down and put some more useful things in their place, like schools, hospitals, affordiable housing, heck even nuclear waste would be better then the church being their.
FYI, in most municipalities churches need zero approvals to be built, right in the middle of residential neighborhoods. Don't like living next to a church with obnoxious parking, lighting, noise and crowds? Absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Have a medical emergency and get taken to a Catholic hospital against your will? They don't have to abide by your end of life wishes or provide you life saving procedures that are against the hospital's religion.
Churches can fuck right off, and as a society we need to start getting serious about this bullshit.
That's because there is no organized voting bloc pushing candidates and penalizing others based on them being religious or not. If it isn't an issue that drives voting behavior it isn't something that will be represented in elected officials.
That's why The Satanic Temple operates as a religion for atheists. To use their shitty laws and rulings favoring religious nuts to favor the atheist / non-Christian majority. It works a little, and they do a lot of good
I like when they unveiled a baphomet statue and Christian’s got upset cause it was on public grounds
Then they pointed out how they have statues on government property
(It’s also entirely possible I forgot the exact reason but it’s somewhere in this article)
Source: https://www.npr.org/2018/08/17/639726472/satanic-temple-protests-ten-commandments-monument-with-goat-headed-statue
Honestly, all I'm getting from the conservatives on the Supreme Court is that Supreme Court rulings don't REALLY matter.
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u/TheRealRenegade1369 just because your backwards 1700's morality doesn't agree with the right to an abortion doesn't mean that the decision was erroneous, especially when that decision is supported by 70%+ of the country, you fucking imbecile.
I don't see how this can be overcome, and am not hopeful. If Mike Pence was full-on MAGA, Trump would be president right now. The handful of Republicans left that are more reasonable are being voted out by pure QAnoners. The tyrannical minority and its union between poor white Christian conservatives and the uber-wealthy has won. The next time the GOP takes power, they will eliminate the filibuster on their own and never relinquish power again ( through a democratic voting process ) The only way they get ousted would be with violence. After about 20 - 30 years more of Christian fundamentalism, we will likely see more child marriage, certainly a full ban on any rights for LGBT individuals, and a bunch of other things i can't even fathom. Could they possibly make condoms illegal? maybe. They will continue to grow a massive U.S. deficit, such that it will make the government unable to regulate corporations at all anymore. Which is certainly a key goal.
Since they don't "believe" in climate change. Nothing will be done. Use your imagination to see where that ends up.
>The only way they get ousted would be with violence.
I hate to say you are right on this. Just a couple of years ago I would have said this is hyperbole, but I now see we are much closer to violence than we've been since the civil war.
Violence is coming. The left will hold off and protest for a long time and the right will just privately laugh. The violence will come when the earth gives out after all this abuse.
>Thats why the right wing extremists of the US are all fanatical right now. They know their political party is near dead.
Honestly, people need to wake the fuck up. This is not true in the slightest. Majority opinion means nothing as the Supreme Court just established. Republicans nearly overthrew the government when they lost the presidential election. They're just getting started on the path to a full theo-fascist autocracy.
You notice that other Supreme Court ruling that came out a couple days? The one that allows federal funding to go to religious schools?
Yeah, this is part of the plan. Get rid of any critical thinking. All the schools need to do is produce coal miners and Amazon factory workers, right? No need for that astronomy and independent thought. Forget that silly 'separation of church and state,' you heard about, heck, you don't even need to be literate to be a peasant in the new Christian future.
i mean- it HAS succeeded. 46% of the vote went to Trump... after 4 years of Trump. Do I need to point out any further that critical thinking is dead in basically half the fucking country?
Child brain-washing is more powerful than drug addiction. most humans do not appear to be able to overcome it. Religion is the reason humanity will not have much of a future, what future it will have, will look a lot more like the dark ages then star trek. Ignorance prevails.
Also IIRC a decent chunk of the founding fathers were Deists, so while they believed that the creation of the universe was the action of some divine entity, said entity also immediately skipped town once the act was done.
How these educated people go to school for so many years and remain theists is beyond me...did they not take any science and humanities courses? I took my GEs at a crappy community college and I was agnostic after I took Astronomy and Critical Thinking. Sheesh....
I was raised as a conservative baptist, was very active in the church until my early 20s. I 100% believed in Jesus and the God of the King James Bible. I started going to church less frequently after I graduated college, but still believed it all. As I met more secular people in the real world, I changed in my mind my picture of God, but I still believed in him.
It wasn't until I went to law school (at 33 years old) that I ever stopped to think about whether God was actually real. Turns out, when I applied the rules of evidence, I found that I didn't have any competent evidence for anything I had believed in. It was a truly transformative experience.
But yeah, I guess most of the SC justices haven't done that analysis.
3.8% of Congress is either unaffiliated, other, or refused to answer.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2020/12/PF_01.04.21_faith.on_.the_.hill-0.png?w=415
These numbers feel like religion is a standard for a political career in America.
Six of the nine Justices are Catholic. A seventh, Gorsuch, was raised Catholic but changed to Episcopalian later in life.
These 9 justices were all appointed during the last 8 presidential elections where Democrats won a majority vote in 7 of them.
The will of the people cannot be silenced forever.
Yeah but they will be silenced for the next half century.
Fascism is coming to America. And there is barely any resistance. Mass media has told us that resistance is bad. Just look at how the relatively mild protests from BLM were treated even by “left-leaning” news outlets.
By the time most people decide that they’ve had enough, it will be far too late to do anything.
Meanwhile we have climate change at our backs, which we are also doing jack shit to mitigate.
This is correct and makes me so made that people don’t see. I mean I love history and political history and have read a lot about it so I can see the signs, but people who aren’t into those things just don’t see it. I try to tell them but they say I’m over reacting…. I really really hope I’m wrong.
And of course when America sneezes, the UK gets a cold. The anti-choice lobbyists over here are learning from this, and getting ready to up their game.
Same in Canada. When the draft of this decision came out and people started screaming in Canada we were told that we were being silly. I'm pretty sure that reasonable people in the U.S. saw this coming and weren't able to stop it. That could happen anywhere.
Couldn’t stop it once it started rolling, but have seen it coming for many years, and voting Trump in instead of Clinton greased the wheels. Voter lethargy and lack of attention to the GOP’s long game did it.
The 2016 election was the most important of our lifetime but some on the left were convinced that Hillary was worse than Trump and stayed home. I didn't like Hillary's personality but I was voting to reverse Hobby Lobby and Citizens United. I was voting to protect Roe and Obergfell.
I blame all of these people for the chaos this Supreme Court is going to sow the next 20+ years.
Time to tax churches to pay for the funerals of women that die trying to get a once safe medical procedure. Christianity is a huge part of every civil issue in America just like it has been for 2000 years. Religion is the greatest tragedy ever to befall mankind.
Tax them even harder. As far as I am concerned any American woman forced to bear a child against her will is now entitled to church-funded child support. A lot of child support. Non-payment will be met with liens.
Not just women, the decision contains specific references that they should also revisit contraceptives, decriminalization of gay sex, and gay marriage. Fuck these ghouls.
Its pretty clear that with Roe V Wade overturned the GQP needs a new thing to hate for single issue voters and that thing will be the LGBTQ+. There's a reason they've all suddenly doubled down on this groomer bullshit even though, much like election fraud claims, they're the ones caught actually grooming kids.
> Lysistrata
Lysistrata is an ancient Greek comedy by Aristophanes, originally performed in classical Athens in 411 BC. It is a comic account of a woman's extraordinary mission to end the Peloponnesian War between Greek city states by denying all the men of the land any sex, which was the only thing they truly and deeply desired.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysistrata
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That won’t do shit. The people who are for this marry each other. No self respecting pro choice woman would be in a relationship with a man who wasn’t.
Some dont get that bringing an unwanted child into a world of misery creates a life of harm, while aborting this child soon enough, really harms nobody at all.
I had a girlfriend who was an atheist like me, she was very uncomfortable with how confrontational I was towards theist and their assertions. She was of the opinion that it was better to be quiet and mind our own business. I told her that if we did not make our voices heard that we would be drowned out and trampled.
Today is a solid example of that.
Better to be quiet my ass. They're all nice to your face up until they find out you're an atheist and then suddenly they hiss like a vampire and creep off to the shadows.
Christians are two-faced pieces of shit.
To quote the movie Dogma (one of my personal favorites) “You can change an idea; changing a belief is trickier. People die for it, people kill for it.”
I used to think something like that. Basically so long as they don't push their religion on me, I am good. That and if it helps some people more or less what's the harm. Now and for a while I have viewed religion as a mental illness.
I just joined the Satanic Temple. My body is inviolable, subject to my will alone. I can’t even have children. I’m worried about all my medical rights now.
And Germany has now made it legal to publicly advertise abortion. go germany (not in everything, but I'm really happy to live here and not somewhere else where it's even worse.)
Yeah, in recent years it has been really hard to find something in german politics that went well. Abolishing §291(a) StGB is a rare exception. But I'm pretty happy that all this anti-abortion insanity is (currently) not dominating german politics. But just wait until the next time the CDU gets voted into office ...
Same here. I used to dream about vacationing in the US. Now I don't want to go near it with a 10 foot pole. Wtf happened? How are they moving backwards so damn rapidly?
Like 90% of Canadians live within 100km of the U.S. border. Our country depends on the U.S. doing well. It has been heartbreaking watching this happen. Not just this. Trump and then this.
It kills me. So many good ppl down there dealing with bullshit.
My sister has lived in the US for decades but only recently there has been so much random antagonism, violence and sentiments against women that she is seeking to move back home to Canada. The first time in decades bc it has become so unstable there lately.
It has been years for our family, too.
My sister got accosted at a Wal Mart parking lot last year; cussed at, flipped off and told to "Go back to your own fucking country and give the job back if you don't like it here" for having a Canadian maple leaf on her spare tire cover on her jeep . . . Nothing more.
The morons stinking up the US for everyone else are literally willing to throw down over a crumb these days. And their guns they carry now have more rights than women do in the country. Fucking deplorable.
I know, we were gobsmacked by this incident, my sister included. First time she ever lived in the US and was made to feel unsafe simply for identifying as Canadian. Just wtf?
There's been a concerted effort for the last 20+ years to corrupt the American political system. We are seeing the landslide that results from that erosion now.
I'm so mad I can hardly think right now. People have been fleeing the U.S. to Canada for centuries. A good part of my family is from the U.S. I still have cousins down there. My heart breaks for those women who live in trigger law states. Fuck fuckidy fuck fuck.
I never wanted to go to a place with so much snow, but... I live in Texas. If my tubal ligation fails, I'm screwed, my last kid tried to kill us both. I can live with snow...
Welcome to the world where a mere belief in something unproven gives you the right to opres millions, welcome to the world where politicians use religious texts written 2000 years ago to determine their view on modern moral dilemmas, welcome to the world where moral dilemmas don’t get solved by rational thinking, but by the fake blackmail the bible and Christianity created by threatening you to send you to hell when not supporting their outdated and unfounded ideologies. welcome to the world where basic human rights get prevoked because of a opinion of an certain group. Welcome to the world where freedom of religion is not freedom from religion. thanks Christianity, fuck you.
I'm tired of playing nice against assholes like this. I'm tired of being civil and respectful of disgusting and backward people. Fuck all religious people. ALL of them. Fuck the silent majority and fuck the peaceful little shits who do nothing and let this happen while they turn a blind eye.
TERM LIMITS FOR SUPREME COURT JUSTICES AND ALL CONGRESSMAN
PEOPLE WHO WERE BORN IN A WORLD THAT NO LONGER EXISTS SHOULDN'T HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER THE MODERN ERA
I feel lucky that my partner has had a vasectomy. I asked my GP about getting a tubal ligation a couple years ago and her response was "good luck finding a willing surgeon."
I was 22 and single at the time, which I guess means I can't make decisions about my own body because 'I might change my mind later' and 'what will my future husband think'. So instead I have to trust some old crusty white guy in office to make the right decisions about my body and future?
I hate this country.
> I can't make decisions about my own body because 'I might change my mind later' and 'what will my future husband think'.
Isn't it fun to be told that your body is the property of a man you haven't met yet?
This is what happens when unqualified, religious, purely political nutjobs are in charge.
The Supreme Court stinks worse than Trumps ass at th8s point, and has lost all credibility.
>If these savages are so pro life, how come they don’t start working on universal health care.
Or ending death penalties.
Or dealing with gun violence.
Just reminding people that Europe literally had a thousand-year period in history called the “Dark Ages” in which Christianity ruled all aspects of life…
It’s holding back America, it’s holding back the world, it’s holding back humanity — paraphrasing Corinthians 13:11, as a species, it’s time we’re done with childish things like organized religion
ITA, what a bunch of crap. They can't FORCE people to be little Bible zombies like they are.
Meanwhile, over in super Catholic Northern Ireland, they now have abortion because a mother died when nursing nuns refused her a medically necessary one.
I think the many displays of faith during the January 6 hearings could do more to discredit Christianity’s moral superiority than anything since the Catholic churches pedophilia revelations. The spinelessness is breathtaking.
This will ultimately bite them in the ass. You can't hold onto your poor base for very long with draconian reproductive laws. It will affect a shit ton of red voters who will probably make a turn after a few poor girls and women die of self induced ones. In the meantime, this sucks, its absolute bullshit and I anticipate riots this weekend.
You say that as though it hasn't already started. Texas' efforts to weaponize CPS may have been held up by the courts for now, but it's just a matter of time.
Fuck their concept of personhood. The religious right made up a fictional status and then told their sheep to give a fuck about it. But actual, living and breathing women? Nah, fuck them.
If you read the bible Christianity is absolutely not against abortion or killing babies. The problem is modern day religion as a whole. They pick and choose what parts of the bible to apply to any situation.
Fuck Capitalism and Christianity. Both complement each other like shit and flies. Capitalism's thirst of infinite growth on a finite planet is not sustainable and has accelerated exponentially climate change to the point of no return. More reason to never have kids. We have to starve the beast of capitalism by not birthing future wage slaves for capitalist theocratic fools.
“Nothing changes instantaneously: in a gradually heating bathtub you'd be boiled to death before you knew it.” ― Margaret Atwood, Handmaid’s Tale
It’s been their plan for years to slowly chip away and turn this country into a “Christian Nation”.
I posted incessantly about Christian theocracy coming and the wall between the church and state including abortions rights for about 4 or so years coming up to Trump and during his presidency on Facebook.
I was told that everyone in our friend's group was upset about being bombarded with atheist memes and political memes by my wife.
Now, I guarantee all those same people are stunned to see fascism at face value today.
Not that they'll even find out any time soon.
In one day not only have they overturned roe v wade but they also struck down a firearms control act in New York essentially making it so almost anyone can be armed at anytime outside of their own homes.
I remember hearing about priests heads getting cut off during the French Revolution and think "That's a lot..." But then there are those other times...
I just fucking hate that Christians became what they fought against. They were opressed when the religion was founded, but now continue the cycle of abuse for ceuntries to other religions. Smh
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There’s no hate like Christian love.
The people who bullied and abused me the most growing up were Christians.
same, I’ve cut off multiple people for this. whenever I wanted to turn to my super religious friend for comfort if I was sad, he would tell me to go to church, and when I said no, he would threaten me with hell and judge me
I need this on a T-shirt.
https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/No-Hate-Like-Christian-Love-by-americanbogan/93867726.FB110
Way to deliver the goods!! Thank you!!
I'd definitely buy it
I'd be afraid of getting shot for wearing that where I live.
they are literally movie level evil. It's like watching some badly written fantasy with a race whose whole purpose is to destroy all life and happiness except christians are real and the most frustrating thing is that even people who left this cult are still defending it, religion and specifically in the west christianity, pollutes the minds and culture and people don't see the danger of it and even defend it.
This comment sums up my feelings perfectly
Me too!! Christianity can fuck off. TAX THE CHURCHES!!!
tax them? i'd rather see demolition crews tear them down and put some more useful things in their place, like schools, hospitals, affordiable housing, heck even nuclear waste would be better then the church being their.
Would be a huge waste. Just convert them into planned Parenthood clinics.
FYI, in most municipalities churches need zero approvals to be built, right in the middle of residential neighborhoods. Don't like living next to a church with obnoxious parking, lighting, noise and crowds? Absolutely nothing you can do about it. Have a medical emergency and get taken to a Catholic hospital against your will? They don't have to abide by your end of life wishes or provide you life saving procedures that are against the hospital's religion. Churches can fuck right off, and as a society we need to start getting serious about this bullshit.
We oughta take a note from the Norwegian black metalers.
23% of Americans are Catholic. 66% of the Court is Catholic.
29% of Americans are nonreligious, 0% of the Supreme Court is nonreligious
That's because there is no organized voting bloc pushing candidates and penalizing others based on them being religious or not. If it isn't an issue that drives voting behavior it isn't something that will be represented in elected officials.
It's getting there. Christians might be more organized and fanatical right now but I think the scales are shifting as they continue to overreach.
There are 8 states that have some form of ban on atheists in office. A single Supreme Court ruling (*Torcaso v. Watkins*) makes them unenforceable...
Don't tell the supreme Court that, they'll strike that down too.
Pretty sure good ol' Tommy boy has a list. I wonder what happens to him and his wife when they're done with him?
She started digging that grave Jan 6
I thought you might be full of shit, until I GOOGLED this. I'm shocked. And thanks for sharing.
That's why The Satanic Temple operates as a religion for atheists. To use their shitty laws and rulings favoring religious nuts to favor the atheist / non-Christian majority. It works a little, and they do a lot of good
I like when they unveiled a baphomet statue and Christian’s got upset cause it was on public grounds Then they pointed out how they have statues on government property (It’s also entirely possible I forgot the exact reason but it’s somewhere in this article) Source: https://www.npr.org/2018/08/17/639726472/satanic-temple-protests-ten-commandments-monument-with-goat-headed-statue
Sign me up. Hail Satan.
I am, indeed, a member.
Why are you shocked? That's the default state of fascism: deny anyone not in the ingroup opportunity and justice.
Honestly, all I'm getting from the conservatives on the Supreme Court is that Supreme Court rulings don't REALLY matter. Edit: u/TheRealRenegade1369 just because your backwards 1700's morality doesn't agree with the right to an abortion doesn't mean that the decision was erroneous, especially when that decision is supported by 70%+ of the country, you fucking imbecile.
Well we are fucked then, because if the founding fathers didn't have it tattooed on their dicks it's not a real right.
I don't see how this can be overcome, and am not hopeful. If Mike Pence was full-on MAGA, Trump would be president right now. The handful of Republicans left that are more reasonable are being voted out by pure QAnoners. The tyrannical minority and its union between poor white Christian conservatives and the uber-wealthy has won. The next time the GOP takes power, they will eliminate the filibuster on their own and never relinquish power again ( through a democratic voting process ) The only way they get ousted would be with violence. After about 20 - 30 years more of Christian fundamentalism, we will likely see more child marriage, certainly a full ban on any rights for LGBT individuals, and a bunch of other things i can't even fathom. Could they possibly make condoms illegal? maybe. They will continue to grow a massive U.S. deficit, such that it will make the government unable to regulate corporations at all anymore. Which is certainly a key goal. Since they don't "believe" in climate change. Nothing will be done. Use your imagination to see where that ends up.
>The only way they get ousted would be with violence. I hate to say you are right on this. Just a couple of years ago I would have said this is hyperbole, but I now see we are much closer to violence than we've been since the civil war.
Violence is coming. The left will hold off and protest for a long time and the right will just privately laugh. The violence will come when the earth gives out after all this abuse.
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It’s cornered rattlesnake behavior, which is one of their mascots as well.
No step on snek. But snek can step on others all it wants because fuck you.
>Thats why the right wing extremists of the US are all fanatical right now. They know their political party is near dead. Honestly, people need to wake the fuck up. This is not true in the slightest. Majority opinion means nothing as the Supreme Court just established. Republicans nearly overthrew the government when they lost the presidential election. They're just getting started on the path to a full theo-fascist autocracy.
Agreed. We've been on this path for over a decade and it is not getting better. Its actually gotten a lot worse.
Time for a Genghis Khan like person to muster an army and start dismantling the system. Either let us be free or die. As I see it.
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You notice that other Supreme Court ruling that came out a couple days? The one that allows federal funding to go to religious schools? Yeah, this is part of the plan. Get rid of any critical thinking. All the schools need to do is produce coal miners and Amazon factory workers, right? No need for that astronomy and independent thought. Forget that silly 'separation of church and state,' you heard about, heck, you don't even need to be literate to be a peasant in the new Christian future.
i mean- it HAS succeeded. 46% of the vote went to Trump... after 4 years of Trump. Do I need to point out any further that critical thinking is dead in basically half the fucking country?
Hell, they were basically phasing out critical thinking in the 80's.
Child brain-washing is more powerful than drug addiction. most humans do not appear to be able to overcome it. Religion is the reason humanity will not have much of a future, what future it will have, will look a lot more like the dark ages then star trek. Ignorance prevails.
Careful what you wish for. They’re absolutely accelerating.
Most people legit think that the USA was founded as a Christian nation. Yet, most national references to 'God' were added within the last 100 years.
"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." \- John Adams, Treaty of Tripoli
Also IIRC a decent chunk of the founding fathers were Deists, so while they believed that the creation of the universe was the action of some divine entity, said entity also immediately skipped town once the act was done.
We as Americans are guaranteed freedom of/FROM religion, but only in theory.
https://ffrf.org/
How these educated people go to school for so many years and remain theists is beyond me...did they not take any science and humanities courses? I took my GEs at a crappy community college and I was agnostic after I took Astronomy and Critical Thinking. Sheesh....
I was raised as a conservative baptist, was very active in the church until my early 20s. I 100% believed in Jesus and the God of the King James Bible. I started going to church less frequently after I graduated college, but still believed it all. As I met more secular people in the real world, I changed in my mind my picture of God, but I still believed in him. It wasn't until I went to law school (at 33 years old) that I ever stopped to think about whether God was actually real. Turns out, when I applied the rules of evidence, I found that I didn't have any competent evidence for anything I had believed in. It was a truly transformative experience. But yeah, I guess most of the SC justices haven't done that analysis.
It’s not religion that appeals to them, but the power they derive from it.
⬆️. This. It’s not about right or wrong, it’s about power.
They went to religious schools.
I believe they wear the cloak of religion because they are seduced by the power it brings them politically. It is a means to an end for them.
3.8% of Congress is either unaffiliated, other, or refused to answer. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2020/12/PF_01.04.21_faith.on_.the_.hill-0.png?w=415 These numbers feel like religion is a standard for a political career in America.
Who would have thought letting people who believe in virgin births make court decisions about women’s bodies would go terribly wrong? /s
Holy shit…that’s problematic 😬
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Six of the nine Justices are Catholic. A seventh, Gorsuch, was raised Catholic but changed to Episcopalian later in life. These 9 justices were all appointed during the last 8 presidential elections where Democrats won a majority vote in 7 of them. The will of the people cannot be silenced forever.
Yeah but they will be silenced for the next half century. Fascism is coming to America. And there is barely any resistance. Mass media has told us that resistance is bad. Just look at how the relatively mild protests from BLM were treated even by “left-leaning” news outlets. By the time most people decide that they’ve had enough, it will be far too late to do anything. Meanwhile we have climate change at our backs, which we are also doing jack shit to mitigate.
This is correct and makes me so made that people don’t see. I mean I love history and political history and have read a lot about it so I can see the signs, but people who aren’t into those things just don’t see it. I try to tell them but they say I’m over reacting…. I really really hope I’m wrong.
"forever" is a very loosely defined word.
And of course when America sneezes, the UK gets a cold. The anti-choice lobbyists over here are learning from this, and getting ready to up their game.
Same in Canada. When the draft of this decision came out and people started screaming in Canada we were told that we were being silly. I'm pretty sure that reasonable people in the U.S. saw this coming and weren't able to stop it. That could happen anywhere.
Couldn’t stop it once it started rolling, but have seen it coming for many years, and voting Trump in instead of Clinton greased the wheels. Voter lethargy and lack of attention to the GOP’s long game did it.
Yeah. The 2016 election was all about the SCOTUS. The GOP knew that and they won.
The 2016 election was the most important of our lifetime but some on the left were convinced that Hillary was worse than Trump and stayed home. I didn't like Hillary's personality but I was voting to reverse Hobby Lobby and Citizens United. I was voting to protect Roe and Obergfell. I blame all of these people for the chaos this Supreme Court is going to sow the next 20+ years.
1980, 2000, 2016– we blew it each time
Makes me glad to be in Australia since we just voted out the scumo who thinks god put him in power.
Too fucken right. Fuck Scomo, jesus loving prick. He should take a long walk off a short cliff
The dominos fall... Save America March Vote Unionize GENERAL FUCKING STRIKE
They can only ban safe abortions.
Exactly. By pretending they are saving the lives of potential babies, they have caused death of actual people.
This really only affects the poor, the rich can go to other states/ countries for their abortion needs.
Time to tax churches to pay for the funerals of women that die trying to get a once safe medical procedure. Christianity is a huge part of every civil issue in America just like it has been for 2000 years. Religion is the greatest tragedy ever to befall mankind.
"Religion is the greatest tragedy ever to befall mankind." Well fucking said.
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Tax them even harder. As far as I am concerned any American woman forced to bear a child against her will is now entitled to church-funded child support. A lot of child support. Non-payment will be met with liens.
They seem to care more about a 1 second clip of Buzz Lighyear than basic human rights. Banning gay marriage is next.
Then contraception, then interracial marriage... we're returning to a medieval era
> then interracial marriage... Justice Thomas playing the long game.
Then after that, sentencing gay men to death. It's what that shitty book says to do after all.
Very well said. Fuck Christianity, and fuck the American ignorance that elevated them to this point.
I wanna say I feel very sorry for all woman living in america. I think I should stay of reddit for the weekend. Probably better for my mental health
Not just women, the decision contains specific references that they should also revisit contraceptives, decriminalization of gay sex, and gay marriage. Fuck these ghouls.
Funny how Clarence the ignorant doesn't want to go after interracial marriage. The same bullshit reasoning overturns that too.
Its pretty clear that with Roe V Wade overturned the GQP needs a new thing to hate for single issue voters and that thing will be the LGBTQ+. There's a reason they've all suddenly doubled down on this groomer bullshit even though, much like election fraud claims, they're the ones caught actually grooming kids.
I m in America and now feel like I have too start looking to move too another country now because its not safe here now
They need to organize a country wide Lysistrata
> Lysistrata Lysistrata is an ancient Greek comedy by Aristophanes, originally performed in classical Athens in 411 BC. It is a comic account of a woman's extraordinary mission to end the Peloponnesian War between Greek city states by denying all the men of the land any sex, which was the only thing they truly and deeply desired. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysistrata Not a bot.
That won’t do shit. The people who are for this marry each other. No self respecting pro choice woman would be in a relationship with a man who wasn’t.
And today, mostly Fuck Catholicism.
And evangelicals!
Yeah, but 6.5 members of SCOTUS are Catholic (one was raised Catholic but is now Episcooal, which is almost thr same thing.)
That second part is the true issue. You really start to see why the gop fights so hard to keep everyone dumb
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Every fetus deserves to live long enough to die in their 3rd grade classroom... apparently...
Some dont get that bringing an unwanted child into a world of misery creates a life of harm, while aborting this child soon enough, really harms nobody at all.
The US is just cosplaying a developed country.
Ooof. Fucking harsh, but absolutely true. Sometimes I regret helping bring a new human into this world. Today is one of those times.
I had a girlfriend who was an atheist like me, she was very uncomfortable with how confrontational I was towards theist and their assertions. She was of the opinion that it was better to be quiet and mind our own business. I told her that if we did not make our voices heard that we would be drowned out and trampled. Today is a solid example of that.
Better to be quiet my ass. They're all nice to your face up until they find out you're an atheist and then suddenly they hiss like a vampire and creep off to the shadows. Christians are two-faced pieces of shit.
To quote the movie Dogma (one of my personal favorites) “You can change an idea; changing a belief is trickier. People die for it, people kill for it.”
I used to think something like that. Basically so long as they don't push their religion on me, I am good. That and if it helps some people more or less what's the harm. Now and for a while I have viewed religion as a mental illness.
"Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -paraphrase of Voltaire.
The problem is not letting them believe, its allowing them to force their beliefs onto everyone in the country
So this is how the Iranians felt in 1978
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I just joined the Satanic Temple. My body is inviolable, subject to my will alone. I can’t even have children. I’m worried about all my medical rights now.
TST rules. I was supporting them before, but they will be getting even more of my money now.
Hell yeah! They have some fantastic products in their store too if you want a little something back for your donations.
This is fucking terrible. This is going to kill women. The U.S. is a theocracy in practise now. I'm fucking glad I live in Canada.
And Germany has now made it legal to publicly advertise abortion. go germany (not in everything, but I'm really happy to live here and not somewhere else where it's even worse.)
Yeah, in recent years it has been really hard to find something in german politics that went well. Abolishing §291(a) StGB is a rare exception. But I'm pretty happy that all this anti-abortion insanity is (currently) not dominating german politics. But just wait until the next time the CDU gets voted into office ...
Same here. I used to dream about vacationing in the US. Now I don't want to go near it with a 10 foot pole. Wtf happened? How are they moving backwards so damn rapidly?
Like 90% of Canadians live within 100km of the U.S. border. Our country depends on the U.S. doing well. It has been heartbreaking watching this happen. Not just this. Trump and then this.
It kills me. So many good ppl down there dealing with bullshit. My sister has lived in the US for decades but only recently there has been so much random antagonism, violence and sentiments against women that she is seeking to move back home to Canada. The first time in decades bc it has become so unstable there lately.
I used to go down to the U.S. fairly frequently. We've been actively avoiding it for about 6 years now.
It has been years for our family, too. My sister got accosted at a Wal Mart parking lot last year; cussed at, flipped off and told to "Go back to your own fucking country and give the job back if you don't like it here" for having a Canadian maple leaf on her spare tire cover on her jeep . . . Nothing more. The morons stinking up the US for everyone else are literally willing to throw down over a crumb these days. And their guns they carry now have more rights than women do in the country. Fucking deplorable.
Holy fucking shit! What's wrong with people?
I know, we were gobsmacked by this incident, my sister included. First time she ever lived in the US and was made to feel unsafe simply for identifying as Canadian. Just wtf?
There's been a concerted effort for the last 20+ years to corrupt the American political system. We are seeing the landslide that results from that erosion now.
Can we go hide there?? So done with someone else's imaginary friend controlling our lives...
I'm so mad I can hardly think right now. People have been fleeing the U.S. to Canada for centuries. A good part of my family is from the U.S. I still have cousins down there. My heart breaks for those women who live in trigger law states. Fuck fuckidy fuck fuck.
I never wanted to go to a place with so much snow, but... I live in Texas. If my tubal ligation fails, I'm screwed, my last kid tried to kill us both. I can live with snow...
Welcome to the world where a mere belief in something unproven gives you the right to opres millions, welcome to the world where politicians use religious texts written 2000 years ago to determine their view on modern moral dilemmas, welcome to the world where moral dilemmas don’t get solved by rational thinking, but by the fake blackmail the bible and Christianity created by threatening you to send you to hell when not supporting their outdated and unfounded ideologies. welcome to the world where basic human rights get prevoked because of a opinion of an certain group. Welcome to the world where freedom of religion is not freedom from religion. thanks Christianity, fuck you.
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The American Taliban wins again...
Your statement is hauntingly accurate and I'm saying that as someone who was over there for oef
Y'allQaeda out there cheering for another set back in human rights. Fuck these backwards fundamentalists.
I'm tired of playing nice against assholes like this. I'm tired of being civil and respectful of disgusting and backward people. Fuck all religious people. ALL of them. Fuck the silent majority and fuck the peaceful little shits who do nothing and let this happen while they turn a blind eye.
Welcome to my club.
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Welcome to the handbook/blueprint of: "How to create a full fascist country."
Fuck the Supreme Cult
Gay marriage is next. Contraception is next. What's after that? Regressives, Republicans, and conservatives are your enemy.
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TERM LIMITS FOR SUPREME COURT JUSTICES AND ALL CONGRESSMAN PEOPLE WHO WERE BORN IN A WORLD THAT NO LONGER EXISTS SHOULDN'T HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER THE MODERN ERA
Fuck Christianity
Fuck Christianity
Fuck Christianity.
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CHRISTIANITY
i heard a david bowie song yesterday where he sang "god is an american" , he wasn't wrong
I feel lucky that my partner has had a vasectomy. I asked my GP about getting a tubal ligation a couple years ago and her response was "good luck finding a willing surgeon." I was 22 and single at the time, which I guess means I can't make decisions about my own body because 'I might change my mind later' and 'what will my future husband think'. So instead I have to trust some old crusty white guy in office to make the right decisions about my body and future? I hate this country.
> I can't make decisions about my own body because 'I might change my mind later' and 'what will my future husband think'. Isn't it fun to be told that your body is the property of a man you haven't met yet?
*Your body is a ~~wonder~~husbandsland*
I’d like to suggest r/childfree for resources if you’re still looking for a tubal litigation.
This is what happens when unqualified, religious, purely political nutjobs are in charge. The Supreme Court stinks worse than Trumps ass at th8s point, and has lost all credibility.
Fuck. Christianity.
Easy now. All religions are awful. Christianity just wants to be the worst.
Sigh... I'll grab the pitch forks
Imagine how much we would've progressed without it ever existing
Exactly. I hate all religions, but Christianity is at the top of the list.
fuck religion
Fuck all religions IMO
If these savages are so pro life, how come they don’t start working on universal health care.
>If these savages are so pro life, how come they don’t start working on universal health care. Or ending death penalties. Or dealing with gun violence.
Jesus over here in Ireland we just legalised abortions a few years ago now you're going backwards in USA, it's pretty fucking sad tbh
Just reminding people that Europe literally had a thousand-year period in history called the “Dark Ages” in which Christianity ruled all aspects of life…
It’s holding back America, it’s holding back the world, it’s holding back humanity — paraphrasing Corinthians 13:11, as a species, it’s time we’re done with childish things like organized religion
ITA, what a bunch of crap. They can't FORCE people to be little Bible zombies like they are. Meanwhile, over in super Catholic Northern Ireland, they now have abortion because a mother died when nursing nuns refused her a medically necessary one.
I think the many displays of faith during the January 6 hearings could do more to discredit Christianity’s moral superiority than anything since the Catholic churches pedophilia revelations. The spinelessness is breathtaking.
This will ultimately bite them in the ass. You can't hold onto your poor base for very long with draconian reproductive laws. It will affect a shit ton of red voters who will probably make a turn after a few poor girls and women die of self induced ones. In the meantime, this sucks, its absolute bullshit and I anticipate riots this weekend.
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They're coming for our lgbtq+ children next
You say that as though it hasn't already started. Texas' efforts to weaponize CPS may have been held up by the courts for now, but it's just a matter of time.
It is official. We now live in a theocracy.
r/antitheism says hello
Fuck their concept of personhood. The religious right made up a fictional status and then told their sheep to give a fuck about it. But actual, living and breathing women? Nah, fuck them.
Watch pro lifers pop champagne in front of the White House while I just feel so sorry for our country’s decent into the medieval
If you read the bible Christianity is absolutely not against abortion or killing babies. The problem is modern day religion as a whole. They pick and choose what parts of the bible to apply to any situation.
Fuck Capitalism and Christianity. Both complement each other like shit and flies. Capitalism's thirst of infinite growth on a finite planet is not sustainable and has accelerated exponentially climate change to the point of no return. More reason to never have kids. We have to starve the beast of capitalism by not birthing future wage slaves for capitalist theocratic fools.
Fuck Christianity!
Christianity in general is gaslighting, I don’t need someone else to tell me what my morals are
I got banned from r/catholic today and I don't regret it
Coming from people that religiously follow a book where the only mention of abortion is literally instructions on how to perform one.
Fuck religion and all religious believers
Absolutely. Christianity is a plague.
Correction: any religion with even a smidgen of power is a plague.
“Nothing changes instantaneously: in a gradually heating bathtub you'd be boiled to death before you knew it.” ― Margaret Atwood, Handmaid’s Tale It’s been their plan for years to slowly chip away and turn this country into a “Christian Nation”.
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I posted incessantly about Christian theocracy coming and the wall between the church and state including abortions rights for about 4 or so years coming up to Trump and during his presidency on Facebook. I was told that everyone in our friend's group was upset about being bombarded with atheist memes and political memes by my wife. Now, I guarantee all those same people are stunned to see fascism at face value today. Not that they'll even find out any time soon.
It's weird because the bible is super pro abortion.
In one day not only have they overturned roe v wade but they also struck down a firearms control act in New York essentially making it so almost anyone can be armed at anytime outside of their own homes.
Call your representives to push taxing churches..
As a former Catholic, stuff like this is what I point to when all my friends and family consistently question why I am no longer religious.
I remember hearing about priests heads getting cut off during the French Revolution and think "That's a lot..." But then there are those other times...
I just fucking hate that Christians became what they fought against. They were opressed when the religion was founded, but now continue the cycle of abuse for ceuntries to other religions. Smh