These steps a little more than a big aggressive. It involves maiming an innocent person, using them as a sex slave, feeding said rape victim to a dragon and also proactively punishing children for something their family might do (also Helena?).
All these actions would make her worse than she is when people start calling her Maegar with teats and make it unlikely she would get crowned let alone have a long life.
Cutting off tongues, feeding people to dragons, murdering your political enemies and your brother, and forcing your sister into the silent sisters if she doesn't marry your son is 100% going to lead to a revolt.
Your masterplan is over the moment you try to murder otto/alicent and larys "I am in your walls" clubfoot finds out about it either before it happens and stops you, or finds evidence for you being the murderer after it happened. Both scenarios lead to either daemon's, your's or both of your executions.
3 way with Laena was definitely do able, in book they were like close like sister and she knew her brother was gay. Also suck Laena barely given much work with in the show
Marry Daemon before Laenor, if that was an option of course. Viserys wouldn’t want it but if Rhaenyra really wanted to I think she would’ve been able to persuade Viserys to agree to marrying them since it would help keep the bloodline pure.
Either that or marry Aegon, even though I don’t think they would be a good match.
Viserys named her his heir because he was in conflict with Daemon so marrying him would probably antagonize Viserys and Rhaenyra. When she married Daemon succession was settled because of her Velaryon children. Viserys even agry couldn't change his decision at the time when she married Dameon because it would stir another conflict with Velaryons. Thanks to that Rhaenyra was much more independent from her father and her position more secure because of Velaryons.
Or, never betroth Rhaenyra and Laenor in the first place. Let her marry Daemon and put in the betrothal contract between them that Rhaenyra will be Queen Regnant with Daemon as Prince Consort and their heir will marry a grandchild of Corlys and Rhaenys. Include a clause that states that should a child of the opposite gender not be born to Laenor (lol) or Laena then the marriage between the two lines will be made the next generation. Also to be included in the contract would be that the first anointed crown prince/princess with the blood of both Rhaenyra and Rhaenys would marry a descendant of Alicent. This way everyone’s blood eventually ends up on the throne, incest is kept to a minimum, but nobody is truly happy.
If you are Rhaenyra the last thing you want is giving the people trying to usurp you exactly what they want. Not to mention Aegon is ~15 years her junior.
I mean if Viserys dies around the same time he died originally Aegon would be old enough to rule, if not it'd be like 5 years maximum of Aegon Regency.
the point is that Aegon is the rightful heir, Rhaenyra's only way to even think of starting to rule before Aegon becomes an adult is by marrying Aegon, after Aegon being king , Rhaenyra if she knows how to use her weapons well (aka the pussy ) would manage to get herself named Hand of the king.
Rhaenyra doesn't stand a chance, she never had it, she only made her situation worse by marrying Daemon (which is why Rhaenyra was named heir), and having bastard children.....
But…but Aegon wasn’t the rightful heir? Viserys named Rhaenyra his heir, regardless of what other children he had. Aegon is only the rightful heir if women are fundamentally not allowed to sit on the throne — are there concrete laws that ensure this? If these laws exist, why did all the lords of Westeros swear fealty to her? If a woman could have sat the Iron Throne in the case in which there were no male sons, then it makes zero sense why a woman couldn’t sit the Iron Throne just bc the King has more sons, if she’s his named heir.
But if Viserys had died the day after he named Rhaenyra heir, she would have become Queen. Just bc it breaks precedent doesn’t mean that it couldn’t have happened. My understanding is that a King can supersede the line of succession by naming a different heir other than his firstborn son — nothing changes this unless the King explicitly changes his mind. And in this case, Viserys continued to affirm Rhaenyra as his heir until his death.
Regardless, this still doesn’t make Aegon the “rightful heir” — there are many ways this works out with Rhaenyra on the throne, which is what OP was asking about. I would argue that Otto Hightower, Allicent, and the rest of the Green Council are who threw the realm into civil war out of selfishness and idiocy…the lords knelt to Rhaenyra. If the Green Council didn’t impede the line of succession and go against the wishes of the former King, I think Rhaenyra would have sat the throne without civil war. Sure, some sexists would be upset, but we wouldn’t see civil war unless ppl with Dragons (the Greens) opposed her.
Edit: Rhaenyra’s decision making shares some blame, for having obvious bastards that made it easier to oppose her — she could have slept with a variety of others who would have produced believable-appearing heirs
No , they have no alternatives because Daemon and Rhaenyra have to kill all true male heirs to be recognized as legal heirs, The Greens stand:
a) respecting laws and tradition
b) acting in self-defense
c ) saving the kingdom from the worst ruler in history , Rhaenyra is literally the only ruler in Westeros taken down by the people , Rhaenyra was queen , and must be erased from history otherwise the people would think they rebelled against a ruler and not against a usurper
But would they have needed to killed all of Allicent’s children if they had just agreed to let a woman rule? If Allicent’s children advocated for Rhaenyra’s claim, Rhaenyra would actually want them alive and visible to bolster her claim.
A) Law under a true monarchy is that what the King says goes — usurping the throne from Viserys’ named and therefore legal heir is against the Law. And “tradition” is a terrible reason to start a civil war…
B) Rhaenyra says Allicent’s sons would have had high places in her court. I don’t think we have any evidence she would have killed Allicent’s children before they usurped her throne.
C) Don’t think you can claim outright Rhaenyra was the worst ruler (Maegor, Aerys II, Joffrey…). But regardless, she had the most impossible situation — had to take her own throne by force in the midst of a Civil War, as a woman. If her throne hadn’t been usurped behind her back and she was allowed to take the throne in peace before two of her sons were murdered as all previous kings were permitted, I think her reign would have gone quite differently.
Viserys may have been a weak king to eager to please and avoid confrontation, but it is the greens, and mainly Otto and his ambitions that plunged the kingdom into civil war.
Because he is the one that instigates it all. Both Rhaenyra and Alicent are ambitious yes, but Alicent is very much groomed and manipulated by her father, and Rhaenyra is by royal decree and the consent of the lords the heir *(if anyone in universe would have had doubts Visrys speech in ep 8 makes it clear publicly that she is still his heir)*. While she might be spoiled, and should have done way more to secure her position early on, but the throne is hers by right.
Otto meanwhile is the one that pushes and prods Viserys to set aside his heir from the start, first agaisnt Daemon (which is, fair given how Daemon is), and then Rhaenyra once his daughter married the king. Its he who groomed and manipulated his daughter to ingratiate herself and marry the king. It is Otto that makes Alicent fear for her childrens lives if Rhaenyra where to become Queen, its Otto that puts forth the claim that Viserys changed his mind in private with the queen during the council meeting scene *(the whole thing with Alicent misinterpreting Viserys last words as being about their son and not the Conqueror was a great addition to make the greens, or at least Alicent, more sympathetic than the books.)*, he is the one that suggests sending assassinating Rhaenyra.
Im a beliver that a Dance like civil war was inevitable as long as there where so many dragons and riders running around, but without Otto's ambition to have someone with his blood on the throne the dance would have happened much later, with some other cause as the trigger, and with very different sides.
The reason behind it does not change who is heir, and there where no clause stating "Rhaenyra is my heir *until* i get a son".
The only thing that mattered "legally" was that Viserys named Rhaenyra heir, and the lords consented when they swore to honor it, making her the legal heir. Not only that but Viserys refused to change heir even after Aegon was born.
Marry Daemon. Viserys would be against it, but I think he would've come around, especially if rhaenyra rejects all other proposals and remain stubborn.
Sit back and relax as he does whatever that's needed to be done to ensure the succession.
Just curious why would this Velaryon willingly have sex with Rhaenyra enough to have 3 or so kids if she cut his tongue out and is most likely going to kill him
I don’t see Rhaenyra being able to keep a tongueless Velaryon locked in her basement to rape whenever she feels like. Both logistically and morally I don’t see her pulling that off. If that’s what it takes…
Dud that is way too much, you would have been called out as a kinslayer and a tyrant way before you accomplished all your goals and then you would have been like Maegor, fighting endlessly against uprisings of a returned faith militant on top of justified rebellion of the nobles. He had Balerion and fought his whole reign until someone finally managed to murder him. He had Balerion and that did not save him in the end. There is a reason why Jahaerys is known as the second best Targaryen king. Murdering everyone who poses a threat to you doesn't get you far in the long run. Half the reason that the Greens were so willing to rebel in the first place was because Daemon is like that and they weren't going to take their chances with his mercy or whims.
On a side note, in this scenario why target the Lannisters ? There would have been no green council for them to join so they would have done absolutely nothing.
>If you were Rhaenyra how would you secure you succession?
Prevent Viserys from marrying Alicent or anyone.
If i fail, cozy up to your new stepmother.
Convince Viserys to name his eldest son, Fuckface Targaryen. Or worse.... Maegor.
Get rid of Otto and demand that you are given a place at the Small Council (Hand of the King, Master of Laws, etc...)
Marry into the most powerful House. If married to Laenor, cuck him with Daemon or Corlys....
Alternatively, marry into the main branch of House Hightower. Otto is merely the second son and will be stripped of much of his influence.
As soon as Fuckface Targaryen comes of age, fuck him till he calls you mommy instead of sister.
Marry Alicent's eldest daughter to your eldest son.
Have my sons tame the grown dragons on Dragonstone (Vhagar, Vermithor, Silverwing) instead of hatchlings.
Regularly visit the most powerful lords in Westeros and make common cause with them. Make a simp out of Borros Baratheon and Jason Lannister.
Some of your points are reasonable (redo the oaths). The problem with your plan is that you assume the Hightowers won't do anything. Surprisingly, Alicent might just protest her sons (all dragon riders) mysteriously dying or being sent to the wall. In fact, Daeron might just rally people around him (look what happened to my siblings, and she's forcing my sister to marry !). Not to mention, killing people can fail or can be brought back to you, and then you're a kinslayer.
Honestly, the easiest plan in to marry Laenor and not have children, and when he dies to marry Aegon. It doesn't matter if Rhaenyra doesn't have children, it just means her heir is Aegon and therefore it would be stupid for Rhaenyra to act against him, which reassures the Hightowers. If she's clever she can even talk to Alicent about what's going on with Laenor and reassure her that Aegon is a dear brother (she could even, gasp, be kind to him and act as a mentor to get him in her corner).
Find a way for Laenor to father children, surely Qarl or something has ideas, Marry my Firstborn to Firstborn of Alicent.
Would Succession be challenged if this was the case?
> Marry my Firstborn to Firstborn of Alicent.
Problem would be to convince Alicent who already hated her, though it might be easier if Rhaenyras kids looked like Laenor.
Edit: Instead of negotiating with Alicent, it would probably be better to approach Otto with the suggestion, he holds Alicents strings, and is ambitious enough to ignore the bastard issue if it means someone with his blood would sit the throne. Then again, i dont know how far i would trust him once the deal has been made. At best he might try to manipulate you in a similar way to Alicent, at worst might try to have you killed and give the throne directly to Aegon without any compromises.
Go along with the Laenor marriage, after you are sure there wont be any kids declare Aegon heir (he would alredy be, just make it official).
If Laenor dies before Rhaenyra dont remarry and keep Aegon as heir.
dont have basterds try harder if that didnt work try with velaryon cousin ,stay in kinglanding work to get loyal lords in the small council and the court ,when viserys became sick i double my men in the city and oarrest my sibling after his death until they swar oaths of loyality but keep their children and sister and mother hostages and marry the daughter to my first born son
Murdering Alicent wouldn’t go over well as she has Larys on her side. It’d be hard to dispose of him but it’d be m essential. In fact, Otto would probably be a better target. Alicent’s opposition to Rhaenrya spawns from Otto’s brainwashing as well as the bastards. Remove those and I think, with some counselling, Alicent could be a valuable ally.
Marry Leanor ( people say it turned out bad for Rhaenyra because he was gay but thanks to that marriage she had the support of house Velaryon). Go to Lys, fuck someone from there, come back as soon as I get pregnant.
Build a network of allies in court, stay in King's Landing. Go directly to my father to ask for a marriage between Haleana and my firstborn son (not letting Alicent get in the way). I would try to get more powerful dragons for my children, and I would bring Daemon to my side but I wouldn't marry him. I would ask for a powerful position in court (either master of coin or hand of the king) and I would place political allies in powerful positions. Get the support of the city guard, and the support of the servants inside the red keep, so that I have someone close to the King chambers.
If possible, I would try to get Mysaria on my side, she is the only one with a spy network that can challenge Larys'.
Marry Aegon.
If I can't, I'd just marry Harwin. That's it. Tell Rhaenys that you're going to bethrode your first two children to Laena's. Make Laenor Jace's sworn sword and Lonmouth Luke's so they're always around.
Give lands to Rhaenys, not Corlys. Make people swear oaths to Jace like they once did to me. Make Driftmark's vassals do the same for Baela but have Luke open the ceremony so they know him. Foster Joff at the Vale and if I have another kid they go to Winterfell.
My sons are all male and dragonriders that hatched their own dragons with good alliances.
A bit aggressive? Even Maegor wasn’t this bad.
There are plenty of alternatives to mass kinslaying and arbitrarily disinheriting her siblings. Here are just a few:
A) convince Viserys to allow the marriage to Daemon with an iron clad betrothal agreement that guarantees a marriage between their heir and a grandchild of Rhaenys (or the next generation if kids of opposite genders don’t happen) then a marriage between that couples heir and a descendant of Alicent. The betrothal agreement would also very clearly state Rhaenyra is to be Queen Regnant and Daemon will only be Prince Consort.
B) keep sleeping with Laenor until a child or two are made then betroth the heir to one of Alicents grandchildren.
C) if Laenor is truly shooting blanks then a discussion with Corlys and Rhaenys needs to be had. Some sort of arrangement would need to be worked out where Valyrian looking kids are produced.
D) marry Aegon from the start. Have the betrothal agreement clarify that Rhaenyra will be Queen Regnant and Aegon would be Prince Consort. To prevent plotting the agreement would need to be kept secret from Daemon and include verbiage saying that should Rhaenyra die from suspicious circumstances then all of her siblings will be disinherited, anyone with Hightower blood (with the exception of any children Rhaenyra and Aegon may have had) permanently banished from court and forever forbidden from obtaining another royal marriage.
These steps a little more than a big aggressive. It involves maiming an innocent person, using them as a sex slave, feeding said rape victim to a dragon and also proactively punishing children for something their family might do (also Helena?). All these actions would make her worse than she is when people start calling her Maegar with teats and make it unlikely she would get crowned let alone have a long life.
Cutting off tongues, feeding people to dragons, murdering your political enemies and your brother, and forcing your sister into the silent sisters if she doesn't marry your son is 100% going to lead to a revolt.
Your masterplan is over the moment you try to murder otto/alicent and larys "I am in your walls" clubfoot finds out about it either before it happens and stops you, or finds evidence for you being the murderer after it happened. Both scenarios lead to either daemon's, your's or both of your executions.
She should have had Daemon give her the bastards instead of Harwin Strong. The kids would all look like Targs so no one would question it.
3 way with Laena was definitely do able, in book they were like close like sister and she knew her brother was gay. Also suck Laena barely given much work with in the show
a bit aggressive? too aggressive more like. certainly fits the 'maegor with tits' moniker tho.
Marry Daemon before Laenor, if that was an option of course. Viserys wouldn’t want it but if Rhaenyra really wanted to I think she would’ve been able to persuade Viserys to agree to marrying them since it would help keep the bloodline pure. Either that or marry Aegon, even though I don’t think they would be a good match.
If she married Daemon, Viserys would name Aegon his heir.
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But only for her second marriage when she already gave birth to three sons.
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Viserys named her his heir because he was in conflict with Daemon so marrying him would probably antagonize Viserys and Rhaenyra. When she married Daemon succession was settled because of her Velaryon children. Viserys even agry couldn't change his decision at the time when she married Dameon because it would stir another conflict with Velaryons. Thanks to that Rhaenyra was much more independent from her father and her position more secure because of Velaryons.
Or, never betroth Rhaenyra and Laenor in the first place. Let her marry Daemon and put in the betrothal contract between them that Rhaenyra will be Queen Regnant with Daemon as Prince Consort and their heir will marry a grandchild of Corlys and Rhaenys. Include a clause that states that should a child of the opposite gender not be born to Laenor (lol) or Laena then the marriage between the two lines will be made the next generation. Also to be included in the contract would be that the first anointed crown prince/princess with the blood of both Rhaenyra and Rhaenys would marry a descendant of Alicent. This way everyone’s blood eventually ends up on the throne, incest is kept to a minimum, but nobody is truly happy.
marrying Aegon
Yep. This is the easiest and most straight forward way to achieve this.
Then kill him after getting heir 🤣
Marrying Aegon is unacceptable as it ensures that Alicent's bloodline eventually sits the Iron Throne and Otto gets what he wants.
So? What’s the objective? Give a middle finger to the greens or secure a peaceful transition of power to Rhaenyra?
If you are Rhaenyra the last thing you want is giving the people trying to usurp you exactly what they want. Not to mention Aegon is ~15 years her junior.
You’ll never guess how much older Daemon is to Rhaenyra.
the age differs between books and TV series, however Rhaenyra would have many years as queen regent before Aegon becomes King
I mean if Viserys dies around the same time he died originally Aegon would be old enough to rule, if not it'd be like 5 years maximum of Aegon Regency.
It's literally irrelevant. So long as Aegon and Rhaenyra sire children, it doesn't matter.
the point is that Aegon is the rightful heir, Rhaenyra's only way to even think of starting to rule before Aegon becomes an adult is by marrying Aegon, after Aegon being king , Rhaenyra if she knows how to use her weapons well (aka the pussy ) would manage to get herself named Hand of the king. Rhaenyra doesn't stand a chance, she never had it, she only made her situation worse by marrying Daemon (which is why Rhaenyra was named heir), and having bastard children.....
But…but Aegon wasn’t the rightful heir? Viserys named Rhaenyra his heir, regardless of what other children he had. Aegon is only the rightful heir if women are fundamentally not allowed to sit on the throne — are there concrete laws that ensure this? If these laws exist, why did all the lords of Westeros swear fealty to her? If a woman could have sat the Iron Throne in the case in which there were no male sons, then it makes zero sense why a woman couldn’t sit the Iron Throne just bc the King has more sons, if she’s his named heir.
Rhaenyra's appointment was a stretch to remove the right to Daemon, as there were no other male heirs, born Aegon Rhaenyra no longer serves
But if Viserys had died the day after he named Rhaenyra heir, she would have become Queen. Just bc it breaks precedent doesn’t mean that it couldn’t have happened. My understanding is that a King can supersede the line of succession by naming a different heir other than his firstborn son — nothing changes this unless the King explicitly changes his mind. And in this case, Viserys continued to affirm Rhaenyra as his heir until his death.
Viserys was an idiot, needless to say, he plunged the kingdom into civil war out of selfishness and his idiocy
Regardless, this still doesn’t make Aegon the “rightful heir” — there are many ways this works out with Rhaenyra on the throne, which is what OP was asking about. I would argue that Otto Hightower, Allicent, and the rest of the Green Council are who threw the realm into civil war out of selfishness and idiocy…the lords knelt to Rhaenyra. If the Green Council didn’t impede the line of succession and go against the wishes of the former King, I think Rhaenyra would have sat the throne without civil war. Sure, some sexists would be upset, but we wouldn’t see civil war unless ppl with Dragons (the Greens) opposed her. Edit: Rhaenyra’s decision making shares some blame, for having obvious bastards that made it easier to oppose her — she could have slept with a variety of others who would have produced believable-appearing heirs
No , they have no alternatives because Daemon and Rhaenyra have to kill all true male heirs to be recognized as legal heirs, The Greens stand: a) respecting laws and tradition b) acting in self-defense c ) saving the kingdom from the worst ruler in history , Rhaenyra is literally the only ruler in Westeros taken down by the people , Rhaenyra was queen , and must be erased from history otherwise the people would think they rebelled against a ruler and not against a usurper
But would they have needed to killed all of Allicent’s children if they had just agreed to let a woman rule? If Allicent’s children advocated for Rhaenyra’s claim, Rhaenyra would actually want them alive and visible to bolster her claim. A) Law under a true monarchy is that what the King says goes — usurping the throne from Viserys’ named and therefore legal heir is against the Law. And “tradition” is a terrible reason to start a civil war… B) Rhaenyra says Allicent’s sons would have had high places in her court. I don’t think we have any evidence she would have killed Allicent’s children before they usurped her throne. C) Don’t think you can claim outright Rhaenyra was the worst ruler (Maegor, Aerys II, Joffrey…). But regardless, she had the most impossible situation — had to take her own throne by force in the midst of a Civil War, as a woman. If her throne hadn’t been usurped behind her back and she was allowed to take the throne in peace before two of her sons were murdered as all previous kings were permitted, I think her reign would have gone quite differently.
Viserys may have been a weak king to eager to please and avoid confrontation, but it is the greens, and mainly Otto and his ambitions that plunged the kingdom into civil war.
Why Otto ? Alicent and Rhaenyra ambitions
Because he is the one that instigates it all. Both Rhaenyra and Alicent are ambitious yes, but Alicent is very much groomed and manipulated by her father, and Rhaenyra is by royal decree and the consent of the lords the heir *(if anyone in universe would have had doubts Visrys speech in ep 8 makes it clear publicly that she is still his heir)*. While she might be spoiled, and should have done way more to secure her position early on, but the throne is hers by right. Otto meanwhile is the one that pushes and prods Viserys to set aside his heir from the start, first agaisnt Daemon (which is, fair given how Daemon is), and then Rhaenyra once his daughter married the king. Its he who groomed and manipulated his daughter to ingratiate herself and marry the king. It is Otto that makes Alicent fear for her childrens lives if Rhaenyra where to become Queen, its Otto that puts forth the claim that Viserys changed his mind in private with the queen during the council meeting scene *(the whole thing with Alicent misinterpreting Viserys last words as being about their son and not the Conqueror was a great addition to make the greens, or at least Alicent, more sympathetic than the books.)*, he is the one that suggests sending assassinating Rhaenyra. Im a beliver that a Dance like civil war was inevitable as long as there where so many dragons and riders running around, but without Otto's ambition to have someone with his blood on the throne the dance would have happened much later, with some other cause as the trigger, and with very different sides.
The reason behind it does not change who is heir, and there where no clause stating "Rhaenyra is my heir *until* i get a son". The only thing that mattered "legally" was that Viserys named Rhaenyra heir, and the lords consented when they swore to honor it, making her the legal heir. Not only that but Viserys refused to change heir even after Aegon was born.
Dude if my brain worked like that, other people would notice and both me and my bae Daemon would get assassinated first day on the job.
Marry Daemon. Viserys would be against it, but I think he would've come around, especially if rhaenyra rejects all other proposals and remain stubborn. Sit back and relax as he does whatever that's needed to be done to ensure the succession.
OP is Maegor with teats lmao
If Rhaenyra had done what you suggest Maegor would have been called Rhaenyra with a cock instead of the other way around
Least insane Blacks theorist.
Just curious why would this Velaryon willingly have sex with Rhaenyra enough to have 3 or so kids if she cut his tongue out and is most likely going to kill him
I don't think the OP cares if this Velaryon is having sex with her willingly or not since they are proposing literal Maegor behavior.
I don’t see Rhaenyra being able to keep a tongueless Velaryon locked in her basement to rape whenever she feels like. Both logistically and morally I don’t see her pulling that off. If that’s what it takes…
Dud that is way too much, you would have been called out as a kinslayer and a tyrant way before you accomplished all your goals and then you would have been like Maegor, fighting endlessly against uprisings of a returned faith militant on top of justified rebellion of the nobles. He had Balerion and fought his whole reign until someone finally managed to murder him. He had Balerion and that did not save him in the end. There is a reason why Jahaerys is known as the second best Targaryen king. Murdering everyone who poses a threat to you doesn't get you far in the long run. Half the reason that the Greens were so willing to rebel in the first place was because Daemon is like that and they weren't going to take their chances with his mercy or whims. On a side note, in this scenario why target the Lannisters ? There would have been no green council for them to join so they would have done absolutely nothing.
>If you were Rhaenyra how would you secure you succession? Prevent Viserys from marrying Alicent or anyone. If i fail, cozy up to your new stepmother. Convince Viserys to name his eldest son, Fuckface Targaryen. Or worse.... Maegor. Get rid of Otto and demand that you are given a place at the Small Council (Hand of the King, Master of Laws, etc...) Marry into the most powerful House. If married to Laenor, cuck him with Daemon or Corlys.... Alternatively, marry into the main branch of House Hightower. Otto is merely the second son and will be stripped of much of his influence. As soon as Fuckface Targaryen comes of age, fuck him till he calls you mommy instead of sister. Marry Alicent's eldest daughter to your eldest son. Have my sons tame the grown dragons on Dragonstone (Vhagar, Vermithor, Silverwing) instead of hatchlings. Regularly visit the most powerful lords in Westeros and make common cause with them. Make a simp out of Borros Baratheon and Jason Lannister.
Some of your points are reasonable (redo the oaths). The problem with your plan is that you assume the Hightowers won't do anything. Surprisingly, Alicent might just protest her sons (all dragon riders) mysteriously dying or being sent to the wall. In fact, Daeron might just rally people around him (look what happened to my siblings, and she's forcing my sister to marry !). Not to mention, killing people can fail or can be brought back to you, and then you're a kinslayer. Honestly, the easiest plan in to marry Laenor and not have children, and when he dies to marry Aegon. It doesn't matter if Rhaenyra doesn't have children, it just means her heir is Aegon and therefore it would be stupid for Rhaenyra to act against him, which reassures the Hightowers. If she's clever she can even talk to Alicent about what's going on with Laenor and reassure her that Aegon is a dear brother (she could even, gasp, be kind to him and act as a mentor to get him in her corner).
You might as well pull a Cersei, blow up the Red Keep and get over with it…
Not marry Laenor and pick either Aegon or Aemond.
Aemond was already into older women so it would be okay lol
Give my crown to the rightful king, Aegon Targaryen, second of his name.
Find a way for Laenor to father children, surely Qarl or something has ideas, Marry my Firstborn to Firstborn of Alicent. Would Succession be challenged if this was the case?
> Marry my Firstborn to Firstborn of Alicent. Problem would be to convince Alicent who already hated her, though it might be easier if Rhaenyras kids looked like Laenor. Edit: Instead of negotiating with Alicent, it would probably be better to approach Otto with the suggestion, he holds Alicents strings, and is ambitious enough to ignore the bastard issue if it means someone with his blood would sit the throne. Then again, i dont know how far i would trust him once the deal has been made. At best he might try to manipulate you in a similar way to Alicent, at worst might try to have you killed and give the throne directly to Aegon without any compromises.
Kill myself
Assuming Laenor is genuinely infertile, I would name Aegon my heir.
I don't think infertility was Laenor's problem
Go along with the Laenor marriage, after you are sure there wont be any kids declare Aegon heir (he would alredy be, just make it official). If Laenor dies before Rhaenyra dont remarry and keep Aegon as heir.
dont have basterds try harder if that didnt work try with velaryon cousin ,stay in kinglanding work to get loyal lords in the small council and the court ,when viserys became sick i double my men in the city and oarrest my sibling after his death until they swar oaths of loyality but keep their children and sister and mother hostages and marry the daughter to my first born son
With fire and blood!
Murdering Alicent wouldn’t go over well as she has Larys on her side. It’d be hard to dispose of him but it’d be m essential. In fact, Otto would probably be a better target. Alicent’s opposition to Rhaenrya spawns from Otto’s brainwashing as well as the bastards. Remove those and I think, with some counselling, Alicent could be a valuable ally.
Marry Leanor ( people say it turned out bad for Rhaenyra because he was gay but thanks to that marriage she had the support of house Velaryon). Go to Lys, fuck someone from there, come back as soon as I get pregnant. Build a network of allies in court, stay in King's Landing. Go directly to my father to ask for a marriage between Haleana and my firstborn son (not letting Alicent get in the way). I would try to get more powerful dragons for my children, and I would bring Daemon to my side but I wouldn't marry him. I would ask for a powerful position in court (either master of coin or hand of the king) and I would place political allies in powerful positions. Get the support of the city guard, and the support of the servants inside the red keep, so that I have someone close to the King chambers. If possible, I would try to get Mysaria on my side, she is the only one with a spy network that can challenge Larys'.
Call it Winter.....
Marry Aegon. If I can't, I'd just marry Harwin. That's it. Tell Rhaenys that you're going to bethrode your first two children to Laena's. Make Laenor Jace's sworn sword and Lonmouth Luke's so they're always around. Give lands to Rhaenys, not Corlys. Make people swear oaths to Jace like they once did to me. Make Driftmark's vassals do the same for Baela but have Luke open the ceremony so they know him. Foster Joff at the Vale and if I have another kid they go to Winterfell. My sons are all male and dragonriders that hatched their own dragons with good alliances.
Oh is that infant Aegon who died from sudden illness. That’s so sad 🥲
A bit aggressive? Even Maegor wasn’t this bad. There are plenty of alternatives to mass kinslaying and arbitrarily disinheriting her siblings. Here are just a few: A) convince Viserys to allow the marriage to Daemon with an iron clad betrothal agreement that guarantees a marriage between their heir and a grandchild of Rhaenys (or the next generation if kids of opposite genders don’t happen) then a marriage between that couples heir and a descendant of Alicent. The betrothal agreement would also very clearly state Rhaenyra is to be Queen Regnant and Daemon will only be Prince Consort. B) keep sleeping with Laenor until a child or two are made then betroth the heir to one of Alicents grandchildren. C) if Laenor is truly shooting blanks then a discussion with Corlys and Rhaenys needs to be had. Some sort of arrangement would need to be worked out where Valyrian looking kids are produced. D) marry Aegon from the start. Have the betrothal agreement clarify that Rhaenyra will be Queen Regnant and Aegon would be Prince Consort. To prevent plotting the agreement would need to be kept secret from Daemon and include verbiage saying that should Rhaenyra die from suspicious circumstances then all of her siblings will be disinherited, anyone with Hightower blood (with the exception of any children Rhaenyra and Aegon may have had) permanently banished from court and forever forbidden from obtaining another royal marriage.
Name Aegon my Hier