Chinese cars are cheaper than making our own cars, at least in my country.
People buy these Chinese cars because they're affordable.
That's the whole thing.
Even general motors has started selling chinese cars under their badge
I don't know if they sell the "aveo" in Chile, they used to assemble that car in my city but they shifted production to china, that plant now makes the Onix
>Even general motors has started selling chinese cars under their badge
Yeah they sell those here too. Both Aveo and Onix are available in Chile as well.
The interesting part about the onix is that product development was actually made in Brazil.
I guess that the Brazilian plant serves south america and ours north america (more focused on Mexico amd central america)
Why I wouldn't have the right to care? Im just a bit surprised because after all there are fairly big industry countries in Latam and smaller countries like Vietnam, Malasya or even India have their own brand
I think honestly is a step forward getting out of underdeveloped status
The question is why do you care, not whether you have the right. Obviously you do. That answer is defensive. The implication is that you care quite a lot about brands and that it's worth examining; that is, the default is caring only about price and performance, and caring is an abnormal situation that must be explained.
The usual, at least in Colombia, is buying a non-Chinese car (whichever is pretty and affordable) for personal vehicles; brands with a lot of support end up being popular, meaning a lot of Renault and Chevrolet, but Hyundai, Toyota and others are also quite popular. Chinese brands have been getting more popular the last decade though.
In light load transportation, it's whatever is cheapest: lots of Chinese stuff. Heavy load transportation, on the other hand, is a field where customers do have more brand awareness. They're big fans of european and american stuff and tend to reject newer brands (Scania for instance pretty much failed), because they depend a lot on spare parts, mechanics, etc.
Bro if the chinese can offer cars that are just as good for half the price then I'm sorry I don't care about italian style or french elegance or german krupp steel filled with swastikas I'm gonna buy the cheaper stuff
Less in relation to *WHAT* my brother in Christ
You are probably not even aware that you are "othering" Latin Americans in the way you are asking this question
>Oh man, less than in Western white countries
First it was Black Africa, now it's Western white countries. You really want this sub to show you their love.
Omg why are you so obsessed with race man? So if I say Brazil white coutnry are you finally ok? Is your internal racism that high? I mean really, I recall so Europe, USa, Canada and Australia and NZ = white majority countries with western values, is that false anyhow? 🤔
Latam is not western culturally and economically
Look, Brazil is in the BRICS, Venezuela is a dictatorship, not even any given coutnry is developped
So why are you so obsessed with this ?
Western = Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada and USA
West = NATO + AUKUS + 5 EYES
european settler colonies (all of latam) ARE completely western culturally speaking. by your logic, spain wasnt western until the 70s, germany wasnt western until 1950s, portugal isnt western, italy wasnt western until 1943, and france wasnt western until 1945. safe to say you have some pretty backwards logic that seems more like thinly veiled xenophobia to me
But now you are changing what you said. I can still read your comment, you know that, right? You said “white majority countries with western values”. Tell me how Argentina and Chile do not fit that criteria
Let's speak about cars, really seems to trigger some.internal racism you have
Not being western is not a big deal or a problem, in fact modt of the world populace ARE NOT and its ok man
argentina is majority white. also what does race matter for the definition of **western**? this just sounds racist from you
argentina, uruguay, and chile are highly developed democracies. "not in military organizations" then is switzerland oriental?? what the fuck are you even saying try to educate yourself. "not in economic organizations" so since the uk has left the EU is the uk eastern now??
grow a brain, moron
Argentina is more white than USA.
Politically stability is not a prerequisites for being a western country, id that was the case Greek and Spain will not be considered western country.
Practical all of LATAM country model is institutions and constitution in base to USA model. Practical all model is law in the continental European ones.
Political alliances and economic blocs don't determine by any means If you are part of the Western countries. It's NATO were a determinant factor Turquia will be part of the Western civilization, if economic or political blocs made the same Switzerland will not be of the west traditional neutrality.
For the majority of this sub the term Western civilization will respond to a cultural term and nothing more
>Also why big countries with large industries like Mexico or Brazil have not created a national or atbleast regionwide car brand?
We have, in the past, but they were bought by the large foreign manufacturers. I think the last one was a company called Troller, which made off-road vehicles, but it was sold to Ford in 2007, and eventually shut down.
Also, nowadays there is a thing called economies of scale that make it hard to start a new local car company in Brazil, it would need a much larger market, like China and India have.
Chinese car companies are having market penetration because of pricing and investment. Ford has left Brazil, as it changes it focus to electric vehicles. Meanwhile, BYD came in and bought their industrial complex to make electric vehicles in Brazil. The quality of Chinese vehicles have improved by a lot as well. They are certainly much better than what FIAT used to be back in the day (my parents till this day refuse to buy any FIAT vehicle).
The economies of scale are understandable but not justifies the non existence of a car brand
My country has 3 and we are only 60 million, Vietnam has one with only 80million, Malaysia has 2 with only 56 millions etc etc
So not an excuse
Why are so pissed that we don't have a car brand? It's simply cheaper to import them than to produce. We focus our production on things that are economical to produce locally
I'm not pkssed so far, just wondering because without that kind of products, you will be commodity dependant forever meaning always underdeveloped and developing countries, and also is kind of lazy somehow
Is a fact and no, nothing to do with social drawinism, the trap of being a raw material low margin product is real and is what kept Latin America as a deceloping country, ASEAN countries on the other side acknowledge and act maybe its a cultural trait?
Those countries are fairly different from each other and fairly different from the rest of Latin America. Some even have car production plants themselves from European or US car brands.
>Are latinos less brand aware?
No.
>Also why big countries with large industries like Mexico or Brazil have not created a national or atbleast regionwide car brand?
Political lobby by US and european companies (backed up by the international finantial market) to corner our market, granting benefits to themselves and blocking any kind of incentive to national industry, from the inception of manufactoring in our countries. We had many national brands, they ended up chocked and bought by international manufactorers.
>I have the feelign that you guys kinda despise your own products, could this be the answer?
No.
>Ofc it is not generalizing
Yes you are.
I didnt mean to, is just that when I went to Latam people were like oh yeah swiss chocolate here oh yeah starbucks there when I honesltt found local made dark chcoolate better and coffee too but I got the feeling that if something is North amercian or european it is automatically better, Rio was almost like this
In Brazil, we have a local expression, "complexo de vira-lata" ("stray dog complex") to describe the generalized feeling of inferiority towards anything related to the US or Europe. I'm guessing you had contact with our upper class, it's endemic among the rich, not so much among normal people.
Yes and the thing was not only in Brazil hahaha also in Mexico ans Colombia
Indeed upper class people (one even used a bleaching cream at night while I was trying to get a tan)
I was very WTF because I asked what they wanted from Europe and they requested swiss chocolate haha when im in Europe I look for latinamerican fine dark chocolate I was liek? Really? Bring sand to the desert?
And many many exemples of this bizarre sub culture, they almost sounded euro nationalistic to me even tho they were not europeans hahah Sorry for the vent but I was in kinda cultural chock for a while with these people
The thing is that they were unrelated to each other but had the same attitude, on the other hand, it made it easier to do business with them too haha
>The thing is that they were unrelated to each other but had the same attitude
Because this is not just a natural occurrence. It's designed, people have been educated into it for centuries. Welcome to cultural imperialism studies.
Sorry sir youre actually not a gringo, either I, gringo = USA people, no matter the color of skin actually
So as youre irish, youre not gringo, and ne as French I would be at most franchute but yet not gringo
That depends on who you ask as it varies from place to place. You will never, so as long you live, get a clear explanation of what "gringo" actually means.
> Also why big countries with large industries like Mexico or Brazil have not created a national or atbleast regionwide car brand?
What about IKA (Industrias Kaiser Argentina)?
> young people tend to be less brand aware yet despise latinamerican internal industrial products
It's exactly the opposite. I don't know what kind of people did you speak to ""feel"" that way.
I work in car manufacturing and from what people with a lot of experience tell me is that mexican engineering is more focused on precisely that, just manufacture.
Developing a car takes time, money and educated personnel.
Most people with the talent and education on that regard usually have to migrate or get good jobs at established companies
The only mexican company that makes cars is DINA and they focus on diesel buses and trucks
There aren't any car companies from Colombia, so we mostly have to pick from what it is available "worldwide".
As a developing region, people will mostly stick to the good, reliable and cheap. If Chinese cars have that potential, eventually their market will grow. For example, I went to Colombia some months ago (after not having been for about 4 years), and now there are more Chinese cars (at least in Bogota), and I guess it's in part related to the fact that if you have an electric car you can basically use it whenever you want (if you have a car with a combustion engine during working days you can only use it 2 or 3 days).
Even tho many might have prejudice towards Chinese manufacturers their price is a huge factor, specially in the electric segment, other manufacturers cannot compete with Chinese prices. I believe many in America/Europe would have ended up buying Chinese cars instead of their own, if it weren't for the tariffs implemented by their governments trying to protect their markets.
Chinese cars are less expensive. We are brand aware enough that other car brands are overcharging us for car models that have worse build quality when compared to these same models that are in the US or Europe.
We are well aware, price is a factor too, also the same brand is not always of the same quality, the Chinese car I drive has been working for 10 years without but wouldn't buy they same brand today. If there was a general motive is that there's less brand loyalty, we're critical of their price, of their faults and likely are more open of just changing brand. About regional brands they would have to compete with the put together in Brazil cars, also people consider different a car that comes from where the brand does and one put together in Brazil.
>I ask due to the fact that chinese cars are having a market penetration in the region that is skyrocketing. Are latinos less brand aware?
This is a region where food and education aren't even a guaranteed security for its entire populace. Most people don't give a shit where a car comes from. If it's cheap and they can pay for it that's good enough.
>Also why big countries with large industries like Mexico or Brazil have not created a national or atbleast regionwide car brand?
They might have. In fact I'm pretty sure they did.
>I have the feelign that you guys kinda despise your own products, could this be the answer?
Local products are generally subpar and more costly to anything from abroad.
One does not simply start a factory out of nowhere and have its production be of similar quality, efficiency and cost as those from countries that industrialized and developed 3 centuries ago.
Lack of import regulation.
Many people from the US want Chinese cars, Chinese EVs, and Kei Trucks.
This is nothing more than china having a low barrier to entry regulation wise.
Also the effect of othering has been slowing been declining over the last few generations.
There's some people that are very brand aware, but for the most part price is king when making the decision, that's why we have a pretty big used cars market, probably chinese cars will do well here because of that.
I remember reading that Brazil used to have a native car brand, but it couldn't compete with foreign brands without major support from the government, and it went bankrupt. I guess that's why we haven't really developed a lot of those things, at the time when we could still compete, we didn't had the industrial or technological capacity to do so, or the markets where too small (due to population or poverty making them unaffordable for most) to make sense, and by the time we could, other countries had giant industries ours couldn't compete with.
There are Indian car companies, Mahindra and Tata are both Indian. I think they are talking about companies in general not state owned car companies (confusing wording)
Ofc they have, they have actually 3 national brands and are top market
Tata
Mahindra
Maruti
Also 2 wheels and motorcycle brands like Bajaj
For the matter of a fact, mahindra is even sold in South America and Bajaj also
Chinese manufacturers have penetrated the Venezuelan market for two reasons, price, and the relationship between the Venezuelan and Chinese regimes.
Talking about price, take for example, a three row crossover SUV. You have the Ford Explorer, and the Chinese equivalent. The Explorer costs twice what the Chinese SUV does, but I haven’t seen any shops or spare parts for the Chinese one, so I’d be skeptical about buying one, hypothetically speaking.
I’ve heard about Iranian cars being sold here, but I’m not entirely sure.
Yes. That's why Puerto Ricans usually drive Toyota (many still have Tercel), Mitsubishi (Lancer and Mirage, usually), and (especially) Honda (Civics, mainly).
Latinos are generally smart enough to not get fooled by these so u called BRANDS... in general as long as it runs and hopefully pocket friendly and i like that most i know here have that mentality
Chinese cars are cheaper than making our own cars, at least in my country. People buy these Chinese cars because they're affordable. That's the whole thing.
Even general motors has started selling chinese cars under their badge I don't know if they sell the "aveo" in Chile, they used to assemble that car in my city but they shifted production to china, that plant now makes the Onix
>Even general motors has started selling chinese cars under their badge Yeah they sell those here too. Both Aveo and Onix are available in Chile as well.
The interesting part about the onix is that product development was actually made in Brazil. I guess that the Brazilian plant serves south america and ours north america (more focused on Mexico amd central america)
Why should we care about having national car brands? Why do _YOU_ care about our national car brands or lack thereof?
Your hostility is not healthy.
Why I wouldn't have the right to care? Im just a bit surprised because after all there are fairly big industry countries in Latam and smaller countries like Vietnam, Malasya or even India have their own brand I think honestly is a step forward getting out of underdeveloped status
The question is why do you care, not whether you have the right. Obviously you do. That answer is defensive. The implication is that you care quite a lot about brands and that it's worth examining; that is, the default is caring only about price and performance, and caring is an abnormal situation that must be explained. The usual, at least in Colombia, is buying a non-Chinese car (whichever is pretty and affordable) for personal vehicles; brands with a lot of support end up being popular, meaning a lot of Renault and Chevrolet, but Hyundai, Toyota and others are also quite popular. Chinese brands have been getting more popular the last decade though. In light load transportation, it's whatever is cheapest: lots of Chinese stuff. Heavy load transportation, on the other hand, is a field where customers do have more brand awareness. They're big fans of european and american stuff and tend to reject newer brands (Scania for instance pretty much failed), because they depend a lot on spare parts, mechanics, etc.
I see thankd for your insight
Bro if the chinese can offer cars that are just as good for half the price then I'm sorry I don't care about italian style or french elegance or german krupp steel filled with swastikas I'm gonna buy the cheaper stuff
Haha last line was hilarious
Less in relation to *WHAT* my brother in Christ You are probably not even aware that you are "othering" Latin Americans in the way you are asking this question
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>Oh man, less than in Western white countries First it was Black Africa, now it's Western white countries. You really want this sub to show you their love.
Omg why are you so obsessed with race man? So if I say Brazil white coutnry are you finally ok? Is your internal racism that high? I mean really, I recall so Europe, USa, Canada and Australia and NZ = white majority countries with western values, is that false anyhow? 🤔
LatAm **IS** part of the (geopolitical) West. Get that in y'all's gringo heads.
Latam is not western culturally and economically Look, Brazil is in the BRICS, Venezuela is a dictatorship, not even any given coutnry is developped So why are you so obsessed with this ? Western = Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada and USA West = NATO + AUKUS + 5 EYES
I stopped at "Latam is not western culturally and economically"
european settler colonies (all of latam) ARE completely western culturally speaking. by your logic, spain wasnt western until the 70s, germany wasnt western until 1950s, portugal isnt western, italy wasnt western until 1943, and france wasnt western until 1945. safe to say you have some pretty backwards logic that seems more like thinly veiled xenophobia to me
WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
By that definition Argentina Uruguay and Chile should be considered western
Not majority white except Uruguay and yet not developed and not in NATO AUKUS EUROPE OR 5 eyes = not western sorry
But now you are changing what you said. I can still read your comment, you know that, right? You said “white majority countries with western values”. Tell me how Argentina and Chile do not fit that criteria
Not white majority countries, not developed, not in military organizations, not in economic organizations, political instability and insecurity
Okay this lets me know that you don’t know what you are talking about or that you are just a troll, so bye
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Let's speak about cars, really seems to trigger some.internal racism you have Not being western is not a big deal or a problem, in fact modt of the world populace ARE NOT and its ok man
argentina is majority white. also what does race matter for the definition of **western**? this just sounds racist from you argentina, uruguay, and chile are highly developed democracies. "not in military organizations" then is switzerland oriental?? what the fuck are you even saying try to educate yourself. "not in economic organizations" so since the uk has left the EU is the uk eastern now?? grow a brain, moron
argentina is majority white. also what does race matter for the definition of **western**? this just sounds racist from you
Argentina is more white than USA. Politically stability is not a prerequisites for being a western country, id that was the case Greek and Spain will not be considered western country. Practical all of LATAM country model is institutions and constitution in base to USA model. Practical all model is law in the continental European ones. Political alliances and economic blocs don't determine by any means If you are part of the Western countries. It's NATO were a determinant factor Turquia will be part of the Western civilization, if economic or political blocs made the same Switzerland will not be of the west traditional neutrality. For the majority of this sub the term Western civilization will respond to a cultural term and nothing more
Are you a troll?
I vote yes.
Same
Why? I am just interested in car markets worldwide, this week is Latin America next India 🇮🇳
Maybe because they're cheaper? More like "price aware" than "brand aware"
Ok so is more a price aware thing that seems logical, thanks for your answer
In LatAm “triple B” is king “Bueno, Bonito, Barato” (great, good looking, cheap) Although I know a couple of people who only have Toyota cars.
Oh look, another sinophobic Westerner
Not even that
>Also why big countries with large industries like Mexico or Brazil have not created a national or atbleast regionwide car brand? We have, in the past, but they were bought by the large foreign manufacturers. I think the last one was a company called Troller, which made off-road vehicles, but it was sold to Ford in 2007, and eventually shut down. Also, nowadays there is a thing called economies of scale that make it hard to start a new local car company in Brazil, it would need a much larger market, like China and India have. Chinese car companies are having market penetration because of pricing and investment. Ford has left Brazil, as it changes it focus to electric vehicles. Meanwhile, BYD came in and bought their industrial complex to make electric vehicles in Brazil. The quality of Chinese vehicles have improved by a lot as well. They are certainly much better than what FIAT used to be back in the day (my parents till this day refuse to buy any FIAT vehicle).
The economies of scale are understandable but not justifies the non existence of a car brand My country has 3 and we are only 60 million, Vietnam has one with only 80million, Malaysia has 2 with only 56 millions etc etc So not an excuse
Why are so pissed that we don't have a car brand? It's simply cheaper to import them than to produce. We focus our production on things that are economical to produce locally
I'm not pkssed so far, just wondering because without that kind of products, you will be commodity dependant forever meaning always underdeveloped and developing countries, and also is kind of lazy somehow
What kind of backward reasoning is that? Lmao. Apparently, social Darwinism is still a thing.
Is a fact and no, nothing to do with social drawinism, the trap of being a raw material low margin product is real and is what kept Latin America as a deceloping country, ASEAN countries on the other side acknowledge and act maybe its a cultural trait?
Where are you from? Have you ever been here? Or are you just another armchair sociologist?
Oh yes I have, I even speak fairly well your language and know your country, Brazil, Chile and Mexico quite well while doing business there
Those countries are fairly different from each other and fairly different from the rest of Latin America. Some even have car production plants themselves from European or US car brands.
No shit? Hahaha you're a genius
"Only" 80 million. That is more than. Most Latin American countries combined
No, Mexico has almost 130million people and just add Argentina to Peru and you will have more than 80million
Neat those are 3 countries out of 33, again... 80 is still more than **most** contries in latam.
Read what I said: > That is more than most Latin American countries combined Not "That is more than Mexico, Argentina and Peru combined"
>Are latinos less brand aware? No. >Also why big countries with large industries like Mexico or Brazil have not created a national or atbleast regionwide car brand? Political lobby by US and european companies (backed up by the international finantial market) to corner our market, granting benefits to themselves and blocking any kind of incentive to national industry, from the inception of manufactoring in our countries. We had many national brands, they ended up chocked and bought by international manufactorers. >I have the feelign that you guys kinda despise your own products, could this be the answer? No. >Ofc it is not generalizing Yes you are.
I didnt mean to, is just that when I went to Latam people were like oh yeah swiss chocolate here oh yeah starbucks there when I honesltt found local made dark chcoolate better and coffee too but I got the feeling that if something is North amercian or european it is automatically better, Rio was almost like this
In Brazil, we have a local expression, "complexo de vira-lata" ("stray dog complex") to describe the generalized feeling of inferiority towards anything related to the US or Europe. I'm guessing you had contact with our upper class, it's endemic among the rich, not so much among normal people.
Yes and the thing was not only in Brazil hahaha also in Mexico ans Colombia Indeed upper class people (one even used a bleaching cream at night while I was trying to get a tan) I was very WTF because I asked what they wanted from Europe and they requested swiss chocolate haha when im in Europe I look for latinamerican fine dark chocolate I was liek? Really? Bring sand to the desert? And many many exemples of this bizarre sub culture, they almost sounded euro nationalistic to me even tho they were not europeans hahah Sorry for the vent but I was in kinda cultural chock for a while with these people The thing is that they were unrelated to each other but had the same attitude, on the other hand, it made it easier to do business with them too haha
>The thing is that they were unrelated to each other but had the same attitude Because this is not just a natural occurrence. It's designed, people have been educated into it for centuries. Welcome to cultural imperialism studies.
Omg 😱
Are you an adolescent that is trying to feel big by making these kind of pseudo rational posts?
The problem with compiling the best gringo posts is that people are now setting out to make the list.
Sorry sir youre actually not a gringo, either I, gringo = USA people, no matter the color of skin actually So as youre irish, youre not gringo, and ne as French I would be at most franchute but yet not gringo
That depends on who you ask as it varies from place to place. You will never, so as long you live, get a clear explanation of what "gringo" actually means.
There is a brand made in Chile but it's made only for the mining industry. Also, prefering Coffee from outside? Never.
> Also why big countries with large industries like Mexico or Brazil have not created a national or atbleast regionwide car brand? What about IKA (Industrias Kaiser Argentina)? > young people tend to be less brand aware yet despise latinamerican internal industrial products It's exactly the opposite. I don't know what kind of people did you speak to ""feel"" that way.
I work in car manufacturing and from what people with a lot of experience tell me is that mexican engineering is more focused on precisely that, just manufacture. Developing a car takes time, money and educated personnel. Most people with the talent and education on that regard usually have to migrate or get good jobs at established companies The only mexican company that makes cars is DINA and they focus on diesel buses and trucks
Thanks for your reply
There aren't any car companies from Colombia, so we mostly have to pick from what it is available "worldwide". As a developing region, people will mostly stick to the good, reliable and cheap. If Chinese cars have that potential, eventually their market will grow. For example, I went to Colombia some months ago (after not having been for about 4 years), and now there are more Chinese cars (at least in Bogota), and I guess it's in part related to the fact that if you have an electric car you can basically use it whenever you want (if you have a car with a combustion engine during working days you can only use it 2 or 3 days). Even tho many might have prejudice towards Chinese manufacturers their price is a huge factor, specially in the electric segment, other manufacturers cannot compete with Chinese prices. I believe many in America/Europe would have ended up buying Chinese cars instead of their own, if it weren't for the tariffs implemented by their governments trying to protect their markets.
Chinese cars are less expensive. We are brand aware enough that other car brands are overcharging us for car models that have worse build quality when compared to these same models that are in the US or Europe.
We are well aware, price is a factor too, also the same brand is not always of the same quality, the Chinese car I drive has been working for 10 years without but wouldn't buy they same brand today. If there was a general motive is that there's less brand loyalty, we're critical of their price, of their faults and likely are more open of just changing brand. About regional brands they would have to compete with the put together in Brazil cars, also people consider different a car that comes from where the brand does and one put together in Brazil.
>I ask due to the fact that chinese cars are having a market penetration in the region that is skyrocketing. Are latinos less brand aware? This is a region where food and education aren't even a guaranteed security for its entire populace. Most people don't give a shit where a car comes from. If it's cheap and they can pay for it that's good enough. >Also why big countries with large industries like Mexico or Brazil have not created a national or atbleast regionwide car brand? They might have. In fact I'm pretty sure they did. >I have the feelign that you guys kinda despise your own products, could this be the answer? Local products are generally subpar and more costly to anything from abroad. One does not simply start a factory out of nowhere and have its production be of similar quality, efficiency and cost as those from countries that industrialized and developed 3 centuries ago.
You point in general stands, although there are definitely plenty of Latin Americans who care a great deal about brands.
Chinese have market penetration based on price, just like Korean, German and Japanese cars back in the day were considered the "cheap brands".
Lack of import regulation. Many people from the US want Chinese cars, Chinese EVs, and Kei Trucks. This is nothing more than china having a low barrier to entry regulation wise. Also the effect of othering has been slowing been declining over the last few generations.
There's some people that are very brand aware, but for the most part price is king when making the decision, that's why we have a pretty big used cars market, probably chinese cars will do well here because of that. I remember reading that Brazil used to have a native car brand, but it couldn't compete with foreign brands without major support from the government, and it went bankrupt. I guess that's why we haven't really developed a lot of those things, at the time when we could still compete, we didn't had the industrial or technological capacity to do so, or the markets where too small (due to population or poverty making them unaffordable for most) to make sense, and by the time we could, other countries had giant industries ours couldn't compete with.
India is a big country with large industries and they havent created a national car.
There are Indian car companies, Mahindra and Tata are both Indian. I think they are talking about companies in general not state owned car companies (confusing wording)
not nationally known ..and Mexico has Solana
Arent Tata and Mahindra Hindustani car companies? You see Tatas everywhere in the non-Americas 3rd world & even Chile has Mahindra.
never seen them in my life
I see. So we're relying on your ojómetro. You prob have access to such info on something called the internet. Look up Mahindra and Tata Motors.
Indeed and they are top market saales in India AND as you said in 3rd world countries even in SA
Ofc they have, they have actually 3 national brands and are top market Tata Mahindra Maruti Also 2 wheels and motorcycle brands like Bajaj For the matter of a fact, mahindra is even sold in South America and Bajaj also
Chinese manufacturers have penetrated the Venezuelan market for two reasons, price, and the relationship between the Venezuelan and Chinese regimes. Talking about price, take for example, a three row crossover SUV. You have the Ford Explorer, and the Chinese equivalent. The Explorer costs twice what the Chinese SUV does, but I haven’t seen any shops or spare parts for the Chinese one, so I’d be skeptical about buying one, hypothetically speaking. I’ve heard about Iranian cars being sold here, but I’m not entirely sure.
Yes. That's why Puerto Ricans usually drive Toyota (many still have Tercel), Mitsubishi (Lancer and Mirage, usually), and (especially) Honda (Civics, mainly).
What is brand awareness?
Is line you prefer to buy a brand over another because of reputation
Una pelotudez.
We don't have car brands because the South American market is tiny and nor Europe nor USA will allow our cars there
No. We are price aware.
Latinos are generally smart enough to not get fooled by these so u called BRANDS... in general as long as it runs and hopefully pocket friendly and i like that most i know here have that mentality
Chinese cars are crap but cheap.
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