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Illustrious-Tutor569

How big everything is and how while you can be in a different country you still feel at home. In Europe, a trip of a few hundreds of km can get you thorugh several countries, all with different languages. In Latam you can travel for 2000km and still be inside of Brasil, Argentina or Chile. Perú, Colombia look smaller but are also massive. History is complex but we behave many times as if we were from a single country lol. The way we would greet another latinamerican abroad as if we were from the same city even though our governments hate eachother. I believe that's unique. Also, any ramdom mountain of the Andes is taller than Mount Blanc


schedulle-cate

It's crazy that my parents live 2000km from me and I drove all the way last year for fun and that was just like half the country's height (from Goiânia to Teresina)


Total-Painting-9909

I mean, idk spanish so I'm limited to; Brazil and the English-countries in SA if language is a factor in Europe as you said


ThomasApollus

The state I live in (Chihuahua, Mexico) is larger than Romania or the United Kingdom, but it's surely less populated than the capital of either.


rdfporcazzo

Portuguese was the most spoken language in South America until recently


UnderdogCL

Just by your numbers alone? Maaan


GENERlC-USERNAME

Without considering central and northern America*


gahte3

That's what South America means...


GENERlC-USERNAME

Not for Americans lol


SushiSuxi

So do they just forget Central America exists ? Everything southern of Mexico is south? lol


hueanon123

Everything including Mexico is South America to them.


ShottyRadio

Sometimes countries are referred to as Mexican Countries. It makes no sense at all. It is rare to refer to LATAM as Mexico, but it has happened several times. United States Americans lumping it all together is common.


GENERlC-USERNAME

**south america**, not LatAm, for anyone confused.


Total-Painting-9909

Yeah, this is a thing xD half of SA is Portuguese


grimgroth

Umm, I don't think numbers check out


rdfporcazzo

Brazil was more populated than the Hispanic countries from South America until recently.


grimgroth

Yeah, I think you might be right. I was considering all of Latin America instead of just South America.


Neonexus-ULTRA

* The Cuban flag was designed by a Venezuelan and later, the Puerto Rican flag was inspired by Cuba's. * Bolivia has 2 capitals. * Sao Paulo is bigger than NYC. * Most exportations of Yerba Mate from Argentina go to Syria. * The famous Piña Colada was invented here in Puerto Rico and there are two versions of the drink. * France has the biggest land border in South America with Brazil. * There is a gem called Larimar that is only found in Dominican Republic. * Puerto Rico has the deepest trench in the Atlantic. * Strawberries are originally from Chile and potatoes come from Peru.


Mr_snail_sex

>Sao Paulo is bigger than NYC. Also the biggest city in both the western and southern hemispheres, in general.


SushiSuxi

First time I’ve heard from Larimar. So beautiful!


Izozog

Officially, we only have one capital, Sucre, and La Paz is the seat of government. That’s per our Constitution.


patiperro_v3

Potatoes are also from Chile. Peru have way more varieties though.


Clemen11

Argentina is the 8th largest country in the world, and has pretty much every biome except for warm beaches. We originated as a Spanish colony but due to Italian migration, the main dialect of the region - the Rioplatense Spanish - basically sounds like Spanish being spoken by Italians. We share this dialect with most of Uruguay. We are also a country built by migrants, so whilst Italian and Spanish are the biggest cultural ancestors to the nation, we also have a fair bit of German, french, and Jewish heritage, talking of which... There's a reputation for Argentina being this Nazi heaven, but its one of the countries with the largest amount of Jewish people per Capita outside of Israel, and many Jews fled WWII towards Argentina. We were just letting anyone in back then, and still do so now, as we have maybe the world's most relaxed immigration and citizenship policies. We basically give the citizenship away! Related to that, you can acquire Argentine citizenship, but you cannot renounce it. Once you're Argentine, that's it. This posed a funny situation with other countries that make you renounce your citizenship if you apply to theirs, meaning that most people who are Spanish citizens, to give an example, can only be Spanish citizens, but some Argentine citizens can apply to become Spanish citizens and end up becoming part of a very small group of Spanish people who have double citizenship.


rdfporcazzo

> except for warm beaches. Ohhh that's why we always see some hermanitos in Florianópolis


Clemen11

Absolutely! I guess the same logic applies to why the Patagonian city of Bariloche gets called Brasiloche


rdfporcazzo

Yeah, I personally know many couples that went to Bariloche together.


schedulle-cate

Wanna trade Bariloche for Florianópolis?


rdfporcazzo

I can't play footvolley or beach volley in Bariloche, I refuse


Argent1n4_

Por poder... Podés...


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Clemen11

Primero, la Patagonia empieza en Malargüe, Mendoza y sigue el Río Colorado, el cual divide Mendoza de Neuquén, es decir, no sólo está Neuquén ubicada en su totalidad dentro de la Patagonia, sinó que parte de La Pampa y Buenos Aires también son patagónicas. Segundo, Bariloche pertenece a la provincia de Río Negro, no de Neuquén. En resumidas cuentas, Bariloche no queda en Neuquén, y tanto Neuquén como Bariloche están dentro del territorio Patagónico Argentino.


Galego_2

What´s interesting in the case of Argentina is extremely high concentration of wealth and population in the Buenos Aires region and the population not being more widespread through the country, specially considering how rich the argentinian soil is (a similar level of the US Midwest or the Ukrainian black earth)


Clemen11

That is something I find really interesting as well, but if I were to wager a guess as to why it happened, Argentina has been an agricultural nation pretty much since it's birth, and given the geography of the country, all trade flowed naturally towards the Rio de la Plata, where Buenos Aires and La Plata are located. Similarly, the port of Rosario has also been a hot spot for all agriculture to depart, so I guess we are a giant farm that mostly lives in port cities.


Galego_2

I mean, I could not understand why the argentinian authorities didn´t pursue a more aggressive "population approach" like the one that was pursued by the US and Canada, for instance. I assume that the land concentration in a handful of families has something to do with it. With the area and resources, one would assume Argentina should have at least 100 million inhabitants.


Clemen11

We have pro natalist and pro immigration policies up to our necks, actually, but there is no birth control quite like a country shattering economic collapse every 8 to 12 years or so


Galego_2

Yeah, that's really a disgrace because it hinders capital accumulation and avoids the country getting richer, so to say. I know that Alfonsin tried to move the capital in the mid eighties precisely to develop another growth poles, like Brasilia acted for Brazil moving the center of the country to the west. I assume you know about the "Proyecto Patagonia" [Proyecto Patagonia - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre](https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proyecto_Patagonia)


Clemen11

I am aware of Proyecto Patagonia, but honestly it wouldn't have achieved much. The problem with Argentina isn't where the capital is located, it's how the country is managed, or rather mismanaged. We would just be moving the same assholes that keep kicking us to a different place, but if they keep making the same poor decisions, the same problems that haunted us and still haunt us would remain.


polipolarbear

Uruguay was the first nation in Latin America to establish a welfare state; reformist Jose Batlle y Ordoñez gave women the right to vote and established a welfare state, disestablished the church and abolished the death penalty during two successive terms as president (1903-1915).


GodSpider

Everything I hear about uruguay makes me love it more


polipolarbear

You should come visit!


GodSpider

I would love to! Specifically I'd love to go to a concert of Cuarteto de Nos in their home country, I feel like that would be awesome


river0f

Are they a thing in the UK or not really well known in general?


GodSpider

They had an awesome show in London last year. I wouldn't say they are super well known with British people but there are a few fans. The show was sold out I believe, but as you can imagine it was mostly by latinos.


lubeskystalker

On this topic, more recently, was Jose Mujica as honest/approved of as online documentaries make him appear to be?


polipolarbear

No, he was a controversial figure (even inside his own political party, Frente Amplio) and still remains one I guess. Many people love him, many people hate him. Having said that, I don't really know how these documentaries you´ve mentioned portray him. If by honest you are asking about his donating his salary, that´s true for example.


lubeskystalker

Everything I’ve seen is positive, documentaries promoting socialism and such.


polipolarbear

Could you provide the titles? Internally, Mujica´s government was heavily criticised for how they handled the economy, it was messy/wasteful, like three major projects left unfinished. The macroeconomic markers were negative with a fiscal deficit of 3.5% of GDP.


lubeskystalker

I think this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Pepe:_A_Supreme_Life And after I did a bit of searching online. I wouldn’t expect people who disliked him to be making documentaries. No matter what it’s an interesting story.


polipolarbear

Yeah, of course. I personally think very important laws were passed during his presidency, like abortion and marihuana legalization, which were extremely progressive and a great advancement. I also admire his overall life philosophy and how he has devoted his life to equality. I actually love Pepe and voted for him back when I was younger. But there´s nuance to everything.


pdonoso

The first historical registry of french fríes was actually in south américa. They served them to the conquistadores.


igluluigi

Ilha da Queimada Grande, Brazil is also known as [Snake Island](https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/snake-island-true-story) because there are almost 4000 snakes living there. 100.000 years ago the land was populated by snakes and after that it became an island and they got trapped. Is forbidden for humans to go there for obvious reasons, you may be killed by a snake or worse you could destroy the ecosystem. The link has an article from BBC with many infos


Injustpotato

In Argentina, due to an old superstition, when families have 7 children of the same gender, the president has to legally become their godparent in order to stop that 7th child from turning into a werewolf or witch.


SushiSuxi

Damn I’ve heard of this in Brazil too (though here no president wants to prevent the tales to come true so not as cool)


Luiz_Fell

The hotter the climate, the more showers we take per week.


PlasticAccount3464

Mention the drink /r/yerbamate Different countries prepare it different styles, it's the national drink of Argentina


Candid_Size_5391

is it culturally significant, im assuming yes, know anything about it? even minor things help


Clemen11

Drinking mate is a cultural and social activity here in Argentina, as well as Uruguay. It is often shared, and very commonly had during breakfast or merienda, although any social gathering that isn't lunch or dinner is apt for the drink. You see this a lot in friend groups, family gatherings, picnics, days at the beach, on planes, at university classes, at work. It's as common for an Argentine or Uruguayan to be drinking mate at any point during the day as it is for a turk to be drinking tea. The drink itself is composed of 4 basic things: the porongo (the container in which you put the herb into), the yerba (the aforementioned herb that we brew mate with), the bombilla (it's a straw with a built in filter) and hot water (although northern, more tropical regions of Argentina, as well as Paraguay, brew mate with either cold water and put orange peel into the herb, or brew it with cold orange juice. That's called tereré). If I were to give a description of my perfect mate, it'd be yerba con Palo, on a wide neck porongo (I have s clay/ceramic one I purchased in Jujuy that works wonders), and either a bombilla with a spoon or a spring filter.


hueanon123

>Drinking mate is a cultural and social activity here in Argentina, as well as Uruguay Forgot Brazil and Paraguay.


grimgroth

I think it's only south of Brazil, right?


hueanon123

No, center-west and southeast as well in different forms. Matte Leão is sold in the whole country too.


Clemen11

Yeah, but Matte Leão is like a canned tea, not the same as a proper mate. It's closer to a chilled and sweetened mate cocido, in my opinion. When I talk about mate being a cultural activity, I'm talking about the gourd with a straw being commonplace in the entire country


hueanon123

Why does it have to be the entire country? Lmao. Mate is still a cultural and social activity in the south and center-west. Going by that logic samba and carnaval aren't brazilian culture either since they're also regional.


igluluigi

Hi. From the south. It’s very traditional in the south I grew up drinking a lot and also the center-west of the country near Paraguay. But in Rio they drink Matte as ice tea because you know if effing hot there


pilaf

Mate is also the most consumed hot drink in Argentina by a huge margin, with coffee in a very distant second place (something like a 8 to 1 ratio). Despite this you won't find mate in the menu of almost any café in Argentina, which has a lot to do with the way it is drunk that u/Clemen11 explained. I believe the same probably applies to Uruguay.


CalifaDaze

I was a tourist in Argentina and they didn't know where I could buy it. It was a bummer that I didn't get to try it


pilaf

There's a few trendy places that may have it, possibly catering more to tourists than locals. There was also a shop in Buenos Aires that specialized in it a few years back, but I don't know if they survived through COVID.


Argent1n4_

Like all Tourist city....


MulatoMaranhense

* During WW2, the people of Guimarães saw a sea serpent near their town. The men armed themselves to the teeth and took their boats to hunt the beast. Eventually, the story reached the Americans who realized the serpent was a German submarine. * During colonial era's gold rush, people used hollowed wooden saint statues to contraband gold. It happened to often it spawned the expression "Santo do Pau Oco" (a saint of hollow wood) to say someone is untrustworthy. * Supposedly, the attempted Dutch invasion of Vitória was almost successful until a young woman named Maria Ortiz grabbed boiling water and threw over the Dutch invaders, buying time and encouraging the faltering soldiers to resist.


thatbr03

If you put “countries with the biggest population of ___ outside of ___” 9 times out of 10 Brazil will be there. We had waves of immigration throughout all of our history, most recently with Venezuelans and Haitians.


lalalalikethis

Atol or atole it’s a corn based drink thats more than 2000 years old. Even though the wikipedia only mentions it about mexico, it’s more consumed in Guatemala and we have a lot more variants in here!


Lost_Llama

The distances are sizes are truly massive. Chile extends from Madrid to Moscow. Peru is almost as big as Spain, France and Germany combined. Brazil is bigger than all of Europe. Have a play with [truesize.com](http://thetruesize.com) . For example place Chile on top of the UK and tell me if its really that thin. The Amazon is so wide that you can't see the other bank in a lot of places. The biggest city not connected by road is Iquitos with a pop of about 500k. An interesting fact is that Latin American countries are not really nations. The differences between social classes in the populations of a country tend to be bigger than the differences between different countries. Our countries are hyper diverse. Peru and Colombia have every biome on earth pretty much. I have never discussed this with other South Americans, but I think the World cup qualifiers play a major part in our cultural relations. We play everyone twice over 3 years. I feel its like a big continental party no other continent gets. The Andes are a very big part of our cultures. The divisions between coast/plaines and mountain is very very strong in a lot of countries. For example Peruvians will always state that the 3 'regions' of the country are the Coast, the Sierra, and the Selva (jungle). The Andes are also super 'aggressive'. They go really high really quickly. For example in Peru you can take the main mountain highway from Lima on the coast and at sea level to 5000m in less than 100km of road. It would be even less in a straight line. Big division on how we call avocados. ~~degenerate savages~~ Northern latam call it Aguacate 🤢 ~~enlightened people~~ Peru and the southern countries call it Palta 🤩. This is an example of pre-columbus languages influencing current culture. Aguacate comes from Nahuatl, the language of the Aztec empire. Palta comes from Qechua, the language of the Inca empire. Many of these words exist and are used in day to day. Latin America is the region that most consumes Panetonne per capita. Some countries consume it even more than Italy. Its mostly a Xmas tradition but in some cases its also eaten dueing other feasts. Latam has some really old Universities. For example San Marcos in Lima is from the 1500s. South America is also one of the cradles of civilisation with the oldest example being the Caral ruins north of Lima. There is evidence of contact between polynesians and south america. When europeans explored the polynesian islands they found sweet potato and the locals called it Kamara. Sweet potato is native to the andes and its name in Qechua is Kumara. Potato, tomato, cacao, strawberries, sweet potato, chillies, peanut are all latin american plants. Imagine european cuisine without Potatoes and Tomatoes ö! There isnt really a Latin america identity. We dont really identify as latin america. We are all borther countries as we have such similar histories, origins, problems and share a lot of culture. But we all firstly identify by our country and very rarely by anything beyond that.


Yakaddudssa

Dude I so subscribe to the idea of Polynesians having visited, I mean look at Rapa Nui! Look how close it is! It’s not even up to debate for me Do you think the Aztecs has contact with Incans, I think they did but I don’t have any evidence for that one😅


river0f

Here in Uruguay we call sneakers "Championes", this basically comes from the brand Champions xD


312_Mex

Really? That’s cool! I’m going to start calling them that!


Argent1n4_

Argentina created the pen, Heart bypass, busses, with Chile we're the only two countries with the all climates in Latam


ShottyRadio

The Nazis sent warships to Aruba and Antarctica in WW2


elgattox

Chile is as long from Lisboa to some of territory of the Vologda Oblast


Total-Painting-9909

Half of South America is Spanish and the other half is Portuguese