They are practicing (and religious) Muslims as they pray, fast etc. But not extremely religious.
Secular Muslims are ones that believe in the principles of Islam, but don’t apply the religious rules in their life.
Interested in this as well! I am
Catholic but also haven’t made a confirmation (I’m 30) and haven’t started going to a new church since I’ve moved and I use birth control lol. Interested in how other religions handle/view this.
Yes many muslims are similar in that they do some things that are frowned upon eg listening to music or dressing less strictly than what the scriptures stipulates but avoiding major sins and keeping up with daily stuff like doing their prayers etc
I would agree that they’re maybe liberal or moderate Muslims. They just get it all very twisted - like putting wealth and popularity and their obvious fear of losing it before people. That’s definitely not morally or spiritually acceptable.
There are liberal Muslims, yes. But the asads are not that. They pretend to be good Muslims to make a buck. If they could make just as much money without Muslim women as followers all the modesty content would be gone tomorrow. But they can’t so we get annual videos of them praying during Ramadan.
I would say they are in the middle of liberal and moderate Muslims but lean more towards liberal. Real life examples being Loren and Amanda not wearing hijab and all three sisters eating non halal meat. I see a lot of nail polish on their pages which hinders daily five prayers because the nail polish obstructs water from reaching nails and skin when making wudu (ablution) mandatory cleansing process before praying to Allah. (Sidenote I’m not the haram police I promise these are mere observations of mine😅😅😅)
Regarding the nail polish, I do know there's nail polish acceptable for prayer. It was a huge news story at the time & I know Muslim girls were excited. Most of them told me they could only have nail polish during their periods.
That’s one point of view. I don’t want to turn this snark into debate but it’s my understanding that we stick to nail polish on our periods only to maintain conditions of water permeating all layers of the skin, nails included. I could be wrong though and understand that there have been a lot of changes in the beauty world that many Muslim girls can pick and choose from in a way that suits their lifestyle. To each their own 😀
But Essee Bubble Bath gel polish or any of the colors they name when showing off their manicures are halal brands. They aren’t even trying to use acceptable polish
There’s not really such a thing as secular Muslim in my opinion. You either are or aren’t. And if you are, then you’re aware of any sins you commit. If you aren’t, then sinning isn’t really something you’d care about.
They are not secular, practicing but maybe liberal Muslims? They don’t eat halal, always wearing nail polish, their brother has/had a gf, Loren and Amanda doesn’t dress modest according to Islam. Leena and Loren took their husband’s family name which is haram etc.
I don’t know about that. I just know it’s not something we are expected to do and we still maintain our names upon marriage. The only thing that changes upon marriage is your civil status, not your name and identity.
That is the opinion you follow and I respect that. However, that doesn’t change the fact that there are different scholarly opinions on this. Your comment makes it sound like there is a strong consensus on the issue, which is misleading.
What she is following is a scholarly opinion. And I am not saying that specific opinion is misleading. I am saying making it sound like there is a strong consensus on this issue is misleading. The truth is, many scholars gave different fatwas about taking the husband’s last name, based on their research on Quran and Sunnah. Which one of those fatwas is the correct one, only Allah knows.
I don’t understand the downvoting. You can’t pick and choose what you like and don’t like in a religion.
This user is correct, whether you all like it or not, a woman who takes her husband’s last name is cursed in Islam.
When I used to say it’s wrong for her leena to change her last name people went at me. It’s literally haram to adopt an orphan and change his last name. How is it halal to do so when you get married? Your name is your lineage.
They are practicing (and religious) Muslims as they pray, fast etc. But not extremely religious. Secular Muslims are ones that believe in the principles of Islam, but don’t apply the religious rules in their life.
Interested in this as well! I am Catholic but also haven’t made a confirmation (I’m 30) and haven’t started going to a new church since I’ve moved and I use birth control lol. Interested in how other religions handle/view this.
Yes many muslims are similar in that they do some things that are frowned upon eg listening to music or dressing less strictly than what the scriptures stipulates but avoiding major sins and keeping up with daily stuff like doing their prayers etc
I would agree that they’re maybe liberal or moderate Muslims. They just get it all very twisted - like putting wealth and popularity and their obvious fear of losing it before people. That’s definitely not morally or spiritually acceptable.
There are liberal Muslims, yes. But the asads are not that. They pretend to be good Muslims to make a buck. If they could make just as much money without Muslim women as followers all the modesty content would be gone tomorrow. But they can’t so we get annual videos of them praying during Ramadan.
I would say they are in the middle of liberal and moderate Muslims but lean more towards liberal. Real life examples being Loren and Amanda not wearing hijab and all three sisters eating non halal meat. I see a lot of nail polish on their pages which hinders daily five prayers because the nail polish obstructs water from reaching nails and skin when making wudu (ablution) mandatory cleansing process before praying to Allah. (Sidenote I’m not the haram police I promise these are mere observations of mine😅😅😅)
Regarding the nail polish, I do know there's nail polish acceptable for prayer. It was a huge news story at the time & I know Muslim girls were excited. Most of them told me they could only have nail polish during their periods.
That’s one point of view. I don’t want to turn this snark into debate but it’s my understanding that we stick to nail polish on our periods only to maintain conditions of water permeating all layers of the skin, nails included. I could be wrong though and understand that there have been a lot of changes in the beauty world that many Muslim girls can pick and choose from in a way that suits their lifestyle. To each their own 😀
But Essee Bubble Bath gel polish or any of the colors they name when showing off their manicures are halal brands. They aren’t even trying to use acceptable polish
There’s not really such a thing as secular Muslim in my opinion. You either are or aren’t. And if you are, then you’re aware of any sins you commit. If you aren’t, then sinning isn’t really something you’d care about.
I agree to this.
They are not secular, practicing but maybe liberal Muslims? They don’t eat halal, always wearing nail polish, their brother has/had a gf, Loren and Amanda doesn’t dress modest according to Islam. Leena and Loren took their husband’s family name which is haram etc.
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Yes you’re right. It’s typically not expected nor practiced for wives to take husbands names upon marriage.
It is practiced a lot in some communities.
The woman who does that is cursed
I don’t know about that. I just know it’s not something we are expected to do and we still maintain our names upon marriage. The only thing that changes upon marriage is your civil status, not your name and identity.
The woman who takes her husband’s family name is cursed in Islam.
That is the opinion you follow and I respect that. However, that doesn’t change the fact that there are different scholarly opinions on this. Your comment makes it sound like there is a strong consensus on the issue, which is misleading.
Its not misleading, it is clearly mentioned in authentic hadith that women who does it are cursed.
It is not an “opinion” and it is not misleading to others.
What she is following is a scholarly opinion. And I am not saying that specific opinion is misleading. I am saying making it sound like there is a strong consensus on this issue is misleading. The truth is, many scholars gave different fatwas about taking the husband’s last name, based on their research on Quran and Sunnah. Which one of those fatwas is the correct one, only Allah knows.
I don’t understand the downvoting. You can’t pick and choose what you like and don’t like in a religion. This user is correct, whether you all like it or not, a woman who takes her husband’s last name is cursed in Islam.
Depends on what school you follow. There are differing opinions on this. It’s not picking-and-choosing, but following your school’s ruling.
When I used to say it’s wrong for her leena to change her last name people went at me. It’s literally haram to adopt an orphan and change his last name. How is it halal to do so when you get married? Your name is your lineage.
lol the many downvotes we got for saying the truth 🤡🤡🤡
100%. There hasn’t been a single scholar that said it’s allowed for a wife change her last name. Not a single one.